i would like to try this double capacity battery pack but I’m a little worried as it’s clearly Chinese so can you really trust the batteries and their pcb board. What’s been the experience of this battery pack now you have had it for quite a while?
@greg6162
2 жыл бұрын
All 18650 batterie’s are graded from D to A+ from the manufacturer’s. When batches are made some cells come out better than other’s… hence the grade. Companies’s like Dyson pay top dollar for those A+ cells. If you understand 18650 batteries you can build your own. From vaping mechanical mod’s starting in 2012 I learned a lot about 18650 lithium batteries, because you had to build your own vape from the ground up, wrapping kanthal and using a 18650 surrounded by a metal tube with a mechanical switch on the bottom to complete the circuit. You learned ohm’s law to build safely and understood there was *only a few different 18650 manufacturer’s… LG, Samsung and Sony!* Most of these other batteries were re-wrapped Sony, Samsung or LG of lower grade… say B+ and down in quality. If you were looking for longevity and didn’t have a super low resistance build the Samsung and LG’s with higher 2500-3000mah… were perfect at lower loads with 15-20amps. But if you were pushing a really low resistance build (more vaper) at say 0.15 to 0.29 only one cell could push those amps safely, being the Sony VTC 5 at 30amp but only 1500-2000mah. I didn’t vape that low usually. But, understand this was a brand new cell at that time which was cutting edge technology for high drain needs in an 18650 battery. If you understand the Dyson motor and what it’s pulling, at normal and peak, then you can split the amp load between the batteries running them in *parallel* with a high drain cells… say like Sony VTC5. They have better now but I haven’t kept up on the latest cells but usually Sony made the best high drain 18650 batteries. Less mah at 2000-2500mah per battery, but it could sustain 35amps per cell. The more individual 18650 cells it can utilize the less strain on each battery keeping temperature’s lower and efficiency better.
@arazick
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Very Much! I learned a valuable lesson from you when you said to back up the screw a little before screwing it in, to avoid damaging the whole by cross-threading the plastic. I used to have a problem putting the cap on the water bottle, It used to always cross thread. but now I just back it up till I hear/feel the click, then it screws in nicely. Thank again!
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@77machineman
Жыл бұрын
I just replaced the battery pack with a makita battery cradle best thing I did. I can do the entire house twice and not even run the battery down by half and if you did manage to flatten it you just wack another battery in and away you go again and now you can buy the cradle adapters for $30 highly recommend. No wall mount though but who cares
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
What Ah battery do you use?
@77machineman
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable I use a none genuine 9 that I bought specifically for the vacuum project but I need not have bothered, iv tested my 5ah 30min and still had 1 bar left
@stestar09
11 ай бұрын
@@77machineman30 mins , is that in low mode or high?
@77machineman
11 ай бұрын
@@stestar09 low mode
@Ecksterphono
Жыл бұрын
Remember these digital motors have software and circuitry which compliments the battery. Also the battery light system also shoots codes for issues with the vacuum. More than just washing the filters is needed. Have you taken the cyclone canister apart ever? Remember these are not completely microscopic dust elimination proof. Static clings a lot of dust outside of the cyclone separators causing build up which in turn causes resistance. The screen becomes clogged as well. Tools needed are simple. T8 torx screwdriver. Soft plastic guitar pics as to not break the screen housing to remove the screen. Light compressed air to access the screw heads if they are caked in dust. Gentle removal of the chambers. Plastic tweezers or a cyclone canister release tool to remove the canister from the motor body on the v6. Hand wash all the parts except the gaskets with dish detergent and water. Let dry overnight and re- assemble. Makes a heck of a difference. 9 months after heavy use do this. You'll see the difference in performance. Remember loss of suction does occur in the caring of these cyclones, creating strain on the motor. Overheating the battery as well. Issues with the powerbrush motor and resistance adds to the load demands of the battery. Just replacing the battery with extra longevity can also throw led codes and intermittent surging. Also the digital motor circuitry had surge protection. The circuitry on the digital motor and brush bar compliment each other. This vacuum also has auto adjust features as well from carpet to hardwood floor, maybe not like the detect. Slight resistance acts as a sensor for the electronics to adjust, however if there are obstructions the vacuum goes into limp mode or even shuts off after 20 seconds if faults are detected not just in the airstream , but also the wiring and running temperatures, resulting in reduced performance.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I clean the cyclones on all Dyson's I have, but I don't bother taking them apart. I soak the whole canister in soapy water bucket and rinse and shake and spray until all that stuff is cleaned out. I know how people don't maintain them. I find Dyson's put out to the trash on the side of the road all the time because silly people think they don't suck anymore. It's always a simple clogged hose, filter or canister. Very easy to fix and get back like new.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
UPDATE! Watch this video - kzitem.info/news/bejne/qn-E0mlnkoJ-lpg ▼ WHERE TO BUY ▶ Double Capacity V6 Battery W/ Wall Mount - amzn.to/3vLOTRE ▶Double Capacity Dyson V6 Battery (LASICA brand seems to have better reviews) amzn.to/3vwYqfr ▶ Double Capacity Dyson V6 Battery (ENEGON brand used in this video) - amzn.to/3jZZdhh or amzn.to/3CfP09i ▶ Wall Mount for V6 Double Runtime Battery - amzn.to/3fO9zyR
@andrewberry6818
3 жыл бұрын
this was 5 months ago, what was the result? Was the new battery worth it?
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
The capacity is great, I still use it, and I wish I also had a double capacity battery on my V7/V8 vacuums, but I did discover an issue that I'm publishing another video about. When the battery was new, sometimes the vacuum wouldn't start after taking it off the charger (This problem went away after several charge cycles.) Pulling the battery out and putting it back in somehow resets things, and it works fine again. I returned the first battery thinking it was bad. The next battery has been acting the same way. So I left out the screws, and put a strap around the lower part of the handle and the battery to hold it in place while making it easy to remove and put back in if it's not working. It's an annoying workaround for a battery that should work correctly, but for me it's worth it for the capacity. I can run the vacuum cleaner on high for the same amount of time as the original battery would run on low.
@jacobhauenstein
2 жыл бұрын
the reason the batteries die so early is likely the extreme temperature the cells get to after using max mode for over 30 seconds. If you can feel it through the plastic, the batteries are much hotter than what you feel. 18650s should not be run too hot or too cold, both significantly reduce their life.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Good point, I never paid attention or noticed the heat generated by the batteries in max mode. With the stock battery, I use max mode for short durations because of how quickly it drains the battery. With the double cell/capacity battery, the current draw per cell will be cut in half, and therefore shouldn't be an issue with overheating the cells.
@Ryezn5057
2 жыл бұрын
Water cooling or addition heatsink dyson mod
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryezn5057 Water cooling would be kinda crazy. Maybe just adding a fan to the battery casing to keep the batteries cooler?
@imperialsecuritybureau6037
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable it’s really shoddy engineering (or intentional for planned obsolescence) that the cells are allowed to get so hot. Very sneaky. They should at least offer an option for 2P packs, or 21700 alternatives for 18650 batteries. I’m just gonna have to DIY a Molicel P42A pack for my Dyson V10, or at least a 2 or 3P pack of cheap 18650s, it’s just a hassle though. Guess I will keep the ‘stem’ of the battery pack intact, use an original board/BMS and then the underside can be some cells stuffed in a box, lol. Won’t look pretty but it will work much better.
@patric3917
2 жыл бұрын
That might also be the reason why dyson themselves do not offer any larger-capacity batteries.. They would run too hot if they allowed them to run for much longer and a smaller capacity battery will limit this runtime. Not going to buy a dyson ever again. Any future portable vacuum-cleaner will be required to have a external replaceable battery. My battery is close to being useless after ~4 years (they say 15 years) of minor use and a replacement 2500mAh battery should not be this expensive. Perfect vacuum-cleaner would be one that is able to use standard makita/ryobi/milwaukee/etc battery-packs..
@greg6162
2 жыл бұрын
I can almost guarantee those are green wrapped Sony VTC4’s or VTC5’s, which were rated at 30a continuous discharge. Depending on when that original battery pack was made it could also be Sony VTC5a which I believe are no longer made. They changed to chemical lithium ion in VTC6 and VTC6a. I’m guessing VTC5a now… idk?! Lol it’s really dependent on the date of the original battery pack. The Sony VTC6 and VTC6a are the best high drain 18650 battery cells you can get that are available to the public. The VTC5 and VTC5a weren’t meant for private purchase, but vaping mechanical mod’s with low ohm build’s the Sony VTC4 and VTC5’s were the best battery to handle those high drain build’s and were low mah and designed to drain quickly but safely under higher continuous amps. Been a while since I needed quality high drain 18650’s and I haven’t kept up with the technology like I used to
@Detoxingforlife
2 жыл бұрын
@engineerable is there a duel capacity battery pack like this for the V7 model?
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
I have not found one specifically for the V7. I will be buying the V8 one and see if it fits, since they are very similar.
@Mangoishable
Жыл бұрын
I love the floor planking. Would you mind sharing the type/model of flooring you have in your house? Also…Great video, helped me find a solution to my dwindling battery!
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I need to dig up the brand/model of this flooring, but I can't recommend it. It looks nice and the surface is very durable and scratch resistant. It is a premium vinyl floating plank, and the top clear layer is extra thick to increase wear and scratch resistance. However, the overall plank it is not very thick, which means the click joints are not thick, and therefore will break easily in some situations. So far, everything going over the plywood subfloor has been ok, but some that was installed on a concrete floor has had curling issues where there is an office chair rolling over it. The edges curl up, and the click connection breaks. I've noticed that the planks curl slightly in general (long edges rise higher than center). I was dubious about the thin click connection when being it was being installed, and rightly so.
@Ak-we2un
2 жыл бұрын
I tried a diy version of this by using my own cells and lets just say it didn’t end well…
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
😂 what went wrong?
@kingdoz
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable yes, seems the chap who wrote it hasn’t responded so I guess I have to ask what could happen if you use proper batteries, I can only think it be the installation in case you put one battery the wrong way round that could short it? I mean should be safe enough if you use proper authentic properly wrapped batteries and not Chinese clones I presume you would have to use high end 18650s like the ones used for vaping?
@mrjcbuc
Жыл бұрын
I have a cordless bissell spinwave and it only gives about 10-15 minutes and takes several hours to recharge. Are there any hacks for that? Would be cool if there were adapters for another battery.
@LiamandKyzGaming
2 ай бұрын
I cant find a charging dock that will fit the larger battery.
@davidcrawford6505
Жыл бұрын
I've never been impressed with the Dyson suction power. For me it's really not more powerful than any Hoover I've owned. What it did excel at was maintaining that amount of suction. It does not clog as fast as other filtered vacuums.
@leviwebb9401
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative.
@ericmesi1764
2 жыл бұрын
I would rather use a Dyson V8 with a Dewalt battery attachment. One 6 amp battery last 3 times as long as the original Dyson battery. If that ever went dead put in another 6 amp battery. I have 6 Dewalt batteries.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be convenient. I'm invested in Ryobi, and unfortunately those batteries have that dumb stem that makes them hard to adapt to other devices.
@paulclark6035
2 жыл бұрын
Just saw this video, then searched amazon for battery converter. for V6 Dyson to Dewalt. I might try this.
@willng34
3 жыл бұрын
How much runtime are you getting with the extended battery?
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
At least twice the original battery. I basically use it on MAX the whole time and it lasts long enough for everything I need to to vacuum, which is nice, because I feel like it does a better job on MAX and I can also get the vacuuming done faster.
@kaliman6719
Жыл бұрын
So you recommend the bigger battery that you are using on this video. Can you provide a link where to purchase it. Thanks .
@mrmakaveli8753
2 жыл бұрын
You talk too damn much dude
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
🤔
@judyjohnson630
6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: if you break open the old battery casing, it makes it much easier to eat the batteries that are inside! Enjoy!
@engineerable
6 ай бұрын
Yum!
@themacedonian188
Жыл бұрын
Max load is all I use. The others are too weak.
@AubreyGreenJr
2 жыл бұрын
Go past the commentary. The meat of the video starts at kzitem.info/news/bejne/x5CE4H9vkIeaoYo.
@Imwright720
Жыл бұрын
Who buys a vacuum to use it on the low mode. Those batteries are not 18650, at least mine aren’t.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
What model vacuum?
@Aussiedave54
Ай бұрын
Tip , buy A corded vacuum 😂
@kingdoz
2 жыл бұрын
Now you have had this double pack for a while, what’s your experience? Is it safe considering it’s a Chinese clone so I presume the board and 18650 batteries are Chinese too and let’s just say they are not known for taking safety as seriously as western standards.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
It's been good except for having to disconnect and reconnect it to the vacuum sometimes after charging to get the vacuum to start. You're right that it could be made of dubious quality and safety standards. Best to charge it inside a LiPo fire resistant bag.
@patpending8134
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable "you're right", not "your right"
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
@@patpending8134 Android/Google autocorrect is awful.
@johnhewitt8235
Жыл бұрын
Get an adapter for a milwaukee m18 battery hook that up and then do your test
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Planning to test those, but I've heard that you really need to use a 8-9ah 18V battery, because the voltage drop doesn't make it last long with the lower Ah batteries, since the Dyson battery uses one extra cell. The ideal power tool battery would be the 24V MAX batteries (~21V nominal like Dyson)
@TimothyTakemoto
2 жыл бұрын
One needs to remove two screws, at the back on the handle and on the front of the battery pack. To remove that second screw you need to remove the refuse container. I am not sure how. Yeah! At 2:56 this is explained. "Pop it down again." Wow it is that simple. Thanks. I have replaced my battery. Unfortunately with a non double capacity battery but still, the old one was weak. Does anyone know if it is worth taking apart the old battery pack to salvage batteries for use in LED lights? I find that old laptop PC battery packs have some good and bad batteries in them.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Glad my video helped you repair your Dyson. As for reusing old battery cells, that is not recommended. Individual cells have no charging, discharging or short circuit protection, meaning that they could overheat and create fires. You should only use individual cells with built in protection.
@TimothyTakemoto
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable You may be right but I have been ripping cells from LAP top packs and using them in my bike torches for about 10 years and I have not gone up in flames, yet, nor experienced more than a few sparks so I think I will keep at it. I took it apart. I did short one of the batteries a bit with resultant sparks and smoke but all the cells are out now and two are in my charger. With PC battery packs there are usually one or two bad and tree or four good batteries. I will see how this goes. I recently found out that some, at least some Samsung cells may have a mechanical anti fire protection mechanism such that when gas expands inside them due to heat, they cease to provide any voltage, which would explain why they can be made to work a little bit again by "venting" them (but they don't hold current). kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZuqq3iKfZ97oKw So while short circuit protection is there, at least in theory (in batteries in Dyson stuff) hammers, and excessive heat can turn them into fireworks. Here we go kzitem.info/news/bejne/pIudyKF5jJ-EgY4 I am inclined to think that cheap batteries from alixepress are going to be more dangerous than batteries harvested from PC and big brand clelaners.
@mrfudd13
2 жыл бұрын
The batteries of SOME of the Dyson vacuums come out the way you show. Others have a different screw set up. Be specific about which model you are demonstrating.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
This video is of a V6, and there are also double capacity batteries available for the V8 (see description for links)
@ArchiezAviation
2 жыл бұрын
the dc35 has a removable battery
@WaynesWorld999
2 жыл бұрын
It would be good to see a tear down of the pack to see the spec of cell, and capacity testing for actuality. There is a 3D adapter on thingverse to allow using a Dewalt battery, and another for doubling the cell count on an OEM pack - utilising the original circuitry!
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
I now have a battery capacity tester, so I do plan to do that. In my experience so far, most 3rd party Chinese power tool packs that publish a believable Ah rating, still falsely advertise the capacity by 1Ah too much. Regardless, this double pack still lasts way longer than the original pack. It does have some issues where sometimes it needs to be disconnected from the vacuum and reconnected before it will start working.
@jmsantiago1
Жыл бұрын
I have an adapter/converter for my V8 that runs with my 18v Makita batteries. Best purchase I've made. Runs way longer, they're quick swappable, and its only a $20 adapter with batteries you already have/own. Downsides are charging batteries separately, weight added and it doesn't fit the wall mount.
@teo2975
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable In y experience, with calibrated loads and testing, the Chinese "ABC" fly by night companies that are on amazon, selling dyson batteries, dewalt, makita, Milwaukee, and power banks are not exaggerating by 1amp but by more like 2amps on supposed five amp batts. Absurd claims on lumens on flashlights or temperature ratings on the chinese sleeping bags are even worse. They just make up a number. Worse yet, the number of cycles you get is 1/5 to 1/10 those you get from OEM companies that insist on quality control from suppliers. When people calculate the price based "value" of the knockoffs they assume the the capacity numbers are real and that they will get typical cycles of OEM batts that would normally last 500 to 700 cycles. In fact when you put in real capacity, and more like 100 cycles, you realize you are paying monstrously more for these "savings." Just try and get in touch with these battery sellers 8 months after you bought it. they will have disappeared. "AEWLXO" "company" with no US address, no US phone number will discontinued product, and now selling cat litter scoops meaning you cant use amazon seller contact to get service.
@abutterfly7975
2 жыл бұрын
Clean the second filter guys, that is attached to the motor, it pops off with a knife and gets very dirty too. Also clean the cone that’s open with a damp micro cloth and a butter knife gets up there good. This will save your battery and help reduce the pulsating that drives us crazy!!👍
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. A lot of people let those filters get clogged, but I keep them clean for optimum performance.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
This one has a HEPA filter attached to the motor that may need to be replaced occasionally, although I haven't had to replace it. Emptying the bin before it gets too full, and cleaning the first cloth filter seems to keep the HEPA filter clean.
@slbourdon
Жыл бұрын
Should the vacuum be left on the charger when not in use?
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Totally fine to leave it on the charger. The battery circuit is smart and stops charging when battery is full.
@tsktkai
3 жыл бұрын
any runtime test?
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
I have not timed it. I should, but it lasts long enough that I'm always done vacuuming before it dies, unlike the original battery where I was only 1/2-2/3 complete when it would die.
@Joshua_Australian_for-beer
3 жыл бұрын
Can you link the wall mount too please
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
Here's the link to the wall mount: amzn.to/3fO9zyR and I've updated the description with it. I will say that the extended battery life has been awesome, but I've had some issues with this battery. The vacuum won't always start running after a full recharge of the battery. The only solution I have found is to remove the battery from the vacuum and then reinstall it. Then the vacuum works fine until it inevitably doesn't start again at some point after a recharge, and you have to repeat the removal/reinstall process. Therefore I've now removed the screws, and use a Velcro strap to hold the battery on the handle. It's slightly inconvenient, but I don't want to give up the longer runtime (especially on high). I will have an updated video discussing the issue and solution.
@QueIncorporated
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever come up with a solution to the battery connection problem/start up after charging?
@jeanneeber
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea & follow through!
@TheBlokestar
2 жыл бұрын
Were can you purchase the new battery
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, the links are also in the description. Where to Buy: Double Capacity V6 Battery W/ Wall Mount - www.amazon.com/dp/B08LYD12Y2 Double Capacity Dyson V6 Battery - amzn.to/3jZZdhh Wall Mount for V6 Double Runtime Battery - amzn.to/3fO9zyR
@tomaszkus3652
2 жыл бұрын
I'm tempting to try and adopt my 18v 4ah bosch blue battery to vac. I used them on my doughter ride on car....its worked . Imagine 36v battery....🤯....rocket
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Should work! There are 3D printed adapters sold on ETSY for batteries like Milwaukee and DeWalt
@timjenkins8943
Жыл бұрын
Is there something for V12 slim absolute? I want to buy the Dyson version but nothing is available for weeks.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't look like there are 3rd party V12 slim batteries available... yet. At least with the V12, you can change them without tools.
@zerospace888
2 жыл бұрын
Most of these China packs have throwaway grade B battery cells. Just buy a Dyson pack and save the headache of play the cell pack lottery.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
If Dyson made a double capacity battery, I would buy theirs. This pack has far more capacity than a standard Dyson, and runs the vacuum in turbo mode for much longer, which is what I need it for.
@annie-ym7sg
2 жыл бұрын
question: I’m planning to buy a shark vacuum but the same concept should apply, should I purchase a replacement battery for it? It’s brand new but I’m thinking I can double the run time. Im not familiar with vacuums & this is a gift for my mom. It’s 80$ for the battery compared to the 400$ price point of the vacuum (new) thoughts?
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
What model Shark is it? Are you thinking to swap the batteries such that when one runs out, you will switch to the other? The issue maybe charging the battery that is not on the vacuum. With Dyson, the charger plugs right into the battery.
@kees1
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t pull it out of the wall mount, frist lift up then pull…. Easy… not need to change Any thing… 😉👍🏻
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Just wait till someone who doesn't know that trick tries to remove it...
@kees1
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable hahaha 👊🏻
@mikebakers2163
3 жыл бұрын
He must be a seller for the batteries - go read the reviews on Amazon batteries don’t even last after a week or so- a lot of bad reviews BUYER BEWARE !
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
How'd you know I'm a door-to-door vacuum cleaner battery salesman?... Do a little research, and you'll find out that I'm not a seller of these batteries. It's some random Chinese company. I bought one because I needed a replacement battery, and wanted higher capacity. The capacity is great, but I did discover an issue that I'm publishing another video about. Sometimes the vacuum won't start after taking it off the charger. Pulling the battery out and putting it back in somehow resets things, and it works fine again. I returned the first battery thinking it was bad. The next battery has been acting the same way. So I left out the screws, and put a strap around the lower part of the handle and the battery to hold it in place while making it easy to remove and put back in if it's not working. It's an annoying workaround for a battery that should work correctly, but for me it's worth it for the capacity. I can run the vacuum cleaner on high for the same amount of time as the original battery would run on low.
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that after the first few charges where sometimes the battery would need to be removed and reinserted to get the vacuum to start, it no longer exhibits this issue. Now it works every time when taken off the charger.
@guitaraflamenco
2 жыл бұрын
Did you say heighth?
@shaneldurham7399
2 жыл бұрын
😂
@bjr8206
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the bigger charging dock?
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Links are in description too. This one comes with the charging dock - amzn.to/3vLOTRE or amzn.to/43ZAajz Here's a double charging dock alone - amzn.to/3fO9zyR
@bjr8206
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable Thank you, they are all unavailable at the moment
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
@@bjr8206 weird, I see the first 2 links as in stock (in US)
@bjr8206
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable I’m in Australia so maybe that’s why
@melissanielsen8215
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@xmortall
Жыл бұрын
where can i find that thicker rack and battery holder. i got v8 and can not find that thicker plastic rack from anywhere.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I don't think they make a thicker wall dock for the V8. Seems like a major oversight to me. Not sure if the V6 one will work.
@xmortall
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable seems pain in the ass trying to find even v6 holder that would propably fit. i think i might just buy makita battery adapter for really sheap and really expensive 6ah battery. only thing that sucks is i need to every time take the battery off and trying to do some charging dock for it.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
@@xmortall Yeah, I don't know if the V6 double holder would even fit the V8. So, if you go power tool battery, the 20V DeWalt batteries are better than 18V. 6ah+ 18V battery will probably be ok, but the smaller ah 18V packs will drop voltage too quickly, and trip the low voltage cutoff circuitry. My friend says that the 8-9ah Milwaukee 18V batteries work forever, but the 5ah doesn't work great.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
@@xmortall I'm about to publish a new video showing a clip that I designed that makes it easy to quick change Dyson batteries, just like cordless drills. That way you can keep using Dyson (or 3rd party) batteries, and the wall dock charger.
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
Here's the clip that allows you to quick change the original Dyson battery kzitem.info/news/bejne/qn-E0mlnkoJ-lpg
@jonwhitcomb263
2 жыл бұрын
Wondering if the new wall mount comes with the larger capacity battery, or if it needs to be ordered separately?
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Check the links in the description, there is an option that includes the wall mount, and other options where you can buy the battery and wall mount seperately.
@2015_Rubicnn
Жыл бұрын
Buy the DeWalt battery adapter. 👍
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
That sounds great, but you lose convenience of charging dock.
@2015_Rubicnn
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable Yeah, but I don't have one and never used one.🤷🏼♂️
@engineerable
Жыл бұрын
@@2015_Rubicnn Oh, you want me to buy and test? I'm planning to test all the power tool battery adapters, but that's a big investment in battery packs of different brands.
@2015_Rubicnn
Жыл бұрын
@@engineerable You can do what you want, I already have the dewalt batteries and chargers so 25 bucks for an adapter was a no brainer. I'm not into guessing games with Amazon batteries advertising bigger capacities when they aren't and they don't have the current rating these Dyson vacuums require. I also don't want to keep buying small Dyson replacement batteries because they are very expensive with low run time.
@TomTubeUK
3 жыл бұрын
The pack is thicker as the cells are set up as 7S2P vs the dyson original 7S. You'd only need two 2500mAh cells in parallel to get your 5000mAh. The pack won't weigh twice as much as the original because there isn't twice as much plastic shell and there is only one PCB inside
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I believe that I that later in the video.
@EVMYT
3 жыл бұрын
The original is 6S not 7S
@esqueue
3 жыл бұрын
The batteries are 6s and are rated at 21.6v. That's 3.6 * 6 for 21.6.
@lloydcumby165
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable aaAa⁹
@janisserga4851
Жыл бұрын
with wall mount bracket tension notch you messed up...
@kees1
2 жыл бұрын
When. Part 2?😁
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
I've been using this battery for over a year without any degredation. Did have some issues in the beginning where it wouldn't run after a full charge. Had to take the battery pack out of the Dyson and put it back in to reset. Did this a few times and no issues since then.
@kees1
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable tnx....
@freakerss
2 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with my V6 absolute. The batteries aren't "dead" after 30 seconds of running in max mode, the vacuum shuts itself off for one reason or another likely to protect its circuitry. This may be due to heat generation, or because the cells can no longer discharge at the rate required for max mode. When the light starts flashing blue and it seems like it is "dead" you just need to plug it in for a second or 2 to reset the system, then when you remove it from the charger it will work again. When this starts happening to your vacuum I suggest running it in normal mode and it should last for a considerable amount of time.
@greg6162
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree… for safety it’s probably a mosfet chip in the switch since it’s mechanical
@johnsteinmetz4000
Жыл бұрын
Agree as well, I just tried with mine and after a minute on the charger it was back running and indicating 2/3 full battery. I had recently replaced the air filters and used cheap ones off Amazon. I'm wondering if these filters do not flow as well as the oem dyson filters therefore causing the batteries to heat up faster because of the higher air flow resistance.
@alantus
3 жыл бұрын
So you use ounces as your main weight measurement unit, but show the weight in ounces, pounds and grams. There has to be a better way.
@engineerable
3 жыл бұрын
Just trying to cover all the bases so you don't have to convert. Although using ounces past 1lb is not really useful.
@TheSkepticSkwerl
2 жыл бұрын
Dyson over charges. But lasts several years, the energon probably has 3 months before the batteries become shit.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Eh, your username checks out 😂. I've been using this battery for over a year without any degredation. Did have some issues in the beginning where it wouldn't run after a full charge. Had to take the battery pack out of the Dyson and put it back in to reset. Did this a few times and no issues since then. I've done somecapacity and life cycle tests on 3rd party Chinese batteries for drills, and the main thing is they lie about the capacity. The capacity is usually at least 1ah less than what is advertised. The life cycle seems to be in the 400-500 cycle range, which is typical to be expected from Li-ion.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Also, I've had an original Dyson V7 Battery fail after limited use (
@bbikermama
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing engineering here. Was expecting a cool video to take the battery pack apart and re-engineer the battery.😒
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Initially I thought I was going to need to hack the battery and add more cells, but the first step of engineering is to research what has already been done and build upon that. If you find a more efficient solution, then why make your life hard and reinvent the wheel. Welding more cells in parallel would have been cool, but this is a hack that anyone can do.
@seanmyers7514
2 жыл бұрын
@@engineerable good video, would it be possible to let us know exactly how long in minutes and seconds that the battery lasts on full power? Also how many discharge cycles has it had? We know it does your job, but us people like figures. Many thanks, keep up the good work
@deanrobillard2667
2 жыл бұрын
seems like over heating problem, so the battery pack needs a mini turbo cooler fan. that would solve the problem
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
@@deanrobillard2667 In this case, the original battery was not holding a charge anymore. It could be that general use of the Dyson vacuum gets the batteries to a higher than optimal temperature and reduces the lifespan.
@wortex933
2 жыл бұрын
You can easily get individual 18650 batteries that come with 3500 mah capacity or 21700 cells that are 5000 mah each and 15A+ discharge rated... I mean it's ridiculous how they scam people.
@engineerable
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have links to these batteries? The V6 motor is rated at 350W. For a 21.6V pack, the max current is 350W/21.6V = 16.2A . The OEM packs have to use reliable cells at lower capacities that have higher discharge rates, probably in the 30A range to play it safe.
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