If Phil Collins can rock a 20" kick, then it's good enough for the rest of us too. I've been gigging a Yamaha Stage Custom Birch with a 20" kick for a few years and it sounds phenomenal. Great punch, attack, and bottom end. Also loving the slightly smaller footprint, improved ergonomics with mounting my toms over the kick, resulting in everything mounted a little lower for easy access. I get many compliments on my drum sound and can easily be heard over screaming electric guitars
@RoccoSoundTube
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@strong_voice_of_truth
10 ай бұрын
How do you have the kick tuned? Full front head or ported? Just curious what's working for you.
@thunderfan77
10 ай бұрын
@@strong_voice_of_truth I use the Rob Brown method for tuning all my toms and kick. Look him up on KZitem. I use an Evans Heavyweight EMAD batter and ported EMAD reso on the kick with one or two EQ Pads inside
@tommo3378
10 ай бұрын
20x17”?
@mjm5081
10 ай бұрын
Immediately thought of Phil too!
@kevinremsen5627
10 ай бұрын
Beat Off was a winning video title.
@DrummerGrrrl
10 ай бұрын
If you're a male, sure. As a woman, I'm rather disgusted.
@Jack_Fuego
10 ай бұрын
@@DrummerGrrrl no im pretty sure its just funny…
@davidlester9287
10 ай бұрын
@DrummerGrrrl you beat a bass drum using a beaterhead. It is a comparison of drums you will beat using the head. What is disgusting about a beatoff?
@adamfrost3722
10 ай бұрын
To her point, we aren’t very funny.
@Jack_Fuego
10 ай бұрын
@@adamfrost3722 to your point, true…
@teagle1064
10 ай бұрын
1st off I’ll just say that all of those kits sound very very good and you guys did an amazing job tuning them. My favorite though is the Gretsch Brooklyn series. I love that round, open tone that just sings from them.
@cscamby0410
10 ай бұрын
Amazing! You know which one my favorite is, but they all sound great! I LOVE 20” bass drums for everything. Great demos as always guys and Jayme…can you save some of those ghost strokes for the rest of us???? WOW!!! fantastic playing all around as always! You guys rock! In my honest opinion, the Gretsch had the most resonance and character.
@marcusbrown87
10 ай бұрын
ANY DRUM MANUFACTURING COMPANIES READING THIS - PLEASE make a standard configuration of 20x16, 10x8, 12x8, 14x14, 16x16 For the love of god! IM BEGGING YOU!!!
@jmichaelfortin
6 ай бұрын
Yeah seriously wtf why is it so hard to find a freakin 20” bass drum configuration!?!
@shannonedens7854
5 ай бұрын
Pearl does
@WADS-rr9wy
10 ай бұрын
Idea for a video: can you guys go over your tuning settings for lug tensions on each drum size and head (top/bottom? Seems you have that nailed down to a science since you always go for that consistency in sound when comparing kits. Please?
@thomasnappo6309
8 ай бұрын
I'd love to know what tunning they have set...tunebot numbers
@mattbennett9467
10 ай бұрын
Another in a long line of the highest quality content. 'Beat off' killed me😂. Anyway, I've played a Brooklyn 12, 14, 20 for a while now. I've had every major brand across the whole range of sizes over the years. As much as I loved my 13, 16, 18, 24 kits (like driving a massive truck), the convenience of the smaller kits has won through over time. I find a 20 to be the most adaptable to head / tension changes and the Brooklyn to stand out as having the purest, 'widest' sound. That's my view - beat that! 😮
@tylerbailey9329
10 ай бұрын
1. Tama 2. Mapex for me. Sounded the most versatile and modern.
@jamescox8402
10 ай бұрын
The Brooklyn and the Ludwig stood out. Great when you do head to head, clearly hearing the difference in tones. Nice work.
@BurningHearts70
10 ай бұрын
Mapex were my favs. I own a set of Sat V’s so I might be biased
@davidsuprenant893
10 ай бұрын
Big fan of 20" bass drums,love them dearly.I would be proud to own anyone of these kits demoed here.The star for me was the starphonic snare drum.I play these exclusively. By the way,them cymbals were wonderful.
@vandavis000
10 ай бұрын
Gotta love that ludwig classic maple kit. Even with the smaller sizes. ❤
@canoedoc2390
10 ай бұрын
The 20" kick is a great compromise between the 22" and the 18". Big enough to have some real punch, no need for a pedal lift, and still small enough to make gigging a little easier, especially if it involves navigating up and down stairs..
@rkaylor5769
10 ай бұрын
1. Gretsch 2. Ludwig (close). The TAMA is a bit too clipped while the Gretsch and Ludwig had that old school airiness no one can touch sans Sonor. I appreciate the Saturn, but it’s a modern kit like the SC.
@ChannelSteph
10 ай бұрын
Love the Ludwig all around. The tone speaks to me. Interestingly though, I thought the Mapex kick was one of the best.
@af7119
10 ай бұрын
That Mapex snare surprised me. It definitely competes with the best out there.
@davepounds8924
10 ай бұрын
I disagree that a 20 is too big for jazz!! I have a 14x20 Ludwig that I use for a jazz quartet that sounds wonderful! It’s tuned high and doesn’t overwhelm the music
@tommo3378
10 ай бұрын
Ian Thomas. Enough said.
@zfactor01
10 ай бұрын
I was presently surprised by the sounds achieved from these kits. The nice thing about being a drummer is you don't have to just like one brand and say that's all you like. I thought before this video started that I'd prefer the star classic kit, and I was wrong. I loved the toms from the Gretsch kit, and the kick from the Mapex. you could've fooled me and told me that the Mapex had a 22 inch kick. Lol! For whatever reason, the Tama and the Ludwig kits just didn't meet my sound preferences. But that could change with different heads, tuning, room, or mics. Great video, guys! Really enjoyed getting to hear a 20in kick and these downbeat kits.
@jonashellborg8320
10 ай бұрын
The Saturn bass drum plus that Black Panther snare drum : amazing, kick hat snare with that combo would be amazing. I liked the Brooklyn a lot too in this video, but none of the drums sounded bad. Great dialogues too, perfect amount of awkwardness. :-)
@lbudt29
10 ай бұрын
The Tama, then the Mapex. I also liked the clean sounding toms of the Mapex, but the thick / deep sound of the Tama is right for me.
@craigjohnchronicles2504
10 ай бұрын
I love the 20" kick - it's tight and punchy - a great all-arounder. Would have liked to hear the Yamaha Tour Custom Maple in this beatoff. Or if you want to spend more monies, the recording custom fusion with the 20" kick, sans the 10" tom... ;)
@bgnPrinceton
10 ай бұрын
I dream of that Black Panther Maximus snare!
@drumcenternh
10 ай бұрын
Fine taste you have!
@tannershultis6656
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch was definitely my favorite kit, and the Starphonic and Supraphonic snares sounded amazing! But I wish you’d had a Pearl in the mix! Would love to have a 20” comparison with Pearl and Sonor included, especially the Session Studio Select👌
@ethanm1261
10 ай бұрын
I don’t know why, I just can’t get behind mapex. Even though its kick drum was the winner here for me. I’m a 20” guy (not exclusively). Gretsch toms stood out for me also. Beat down round two… Pearl? Sonor?
@Clurichaun8
10 ай бұрын
Own 2 Tama so think would like most and it was Mapex. Tama second and thought other 2 sound dead or cheap. The Tama Bronze snare sound best then the Black Panther. All just my opinion. Not into 20 inch for myself but was cool to hear difference, snares and new Meinl :)
@eugeivashchenko758
8 ай бұрын
Ahh a DCP Downbeat Off... well this won't be good for my algorithm.
@harrisonmackenzie
10 ай бұрын
Love a downbeat configuration. All the drums sounded great as usual from DCP. Mapex Saturns are a nice inclusion - I used to have a set and they’re great bang for your buck. I have a Classic Maple Downbeat with an added 16” floor tom now and I love it. The 14x20 kick is awesome and sounds great recorded.
@cfogg2556
10 ай бұрын
That gretsch sounded huge
@alkingborn
10 ай бұрын
As an allround kit I'd choose Gretsch, that jazzy resonance killed me, 2nd option Ludwig by far
@marvincornett6075
10 ай бұрын
Mapex
@terryhu57
10 ай бұрын
Personally the Ludwig. Seemed the most resonant and I could always muffle but I couldn’t add resonance to the others. I prefer the 20-12-14 for the versatility.
@robertsala8031
10 ай бұрын
I have always said the same thing: resonance can always be damped out if needed, but can never be added. I am a fan of resonant drums.
@traviswoodall6547
10 ай бұрын
I’ve almost gone exclusively to 20” kicks, most versatile size there is. I am continually amazed at how Ludwig doesn’t know how to make a bad kick drum. It’s like every Ludwig kick drum ever made/played just sounds better than every other brand.
@Tateisadrummachine
9 ай бұрын
Idk man, the tama neo mod kick that’s a 20 x 10 is just ridiculously good sounding, they know how to make drums that project and mine is an absolute powerhouse of resonance and body. Constantly have people asking me if it’s got a mic at gigs where it doesn’t.
@Drumma75
10 ай бұрын
20” Beatoff Part Deux - Yamaha, Sonor, DW, Pearl
@omarcortes5754
10 ай бұрын
I had a Saturn and yes, they sound amazing.
@ilikemusic76
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch kit got the best mid tones in my ears. And the USA custom snare rings like heaven. For me the personally the best sounding kit although all other kits deliver more overtones. The Mapex sound a little too boxy for my taste.
@thomasnappo6309
8 ай бұрын
THEY ALL SOUND AMAZING...IM A GRETSCH GUY MYSELF😂
@cgrcjet
10 ай бұрын
Gretsch all around. Toms nice and full sounding and snare was nice too. Ludwig and mapex kicks maybe a touch better
@jrfrondelli2023
10 ай бұрын
Great video as usual guys! Man, it's all SO close for me, but I'd have to say (no surprise) that the Ludwig kit, overall, sounds best to me ears. There's a crispness to the attack on the toms, and the snare is, well..... a Supra! Love the 12" depth. For me, it's Ludwig, Mapex, Tama, and Gretsch, in that order, however, I'd LOVE any one of these kits. It's all really splitting hairs. Bang-for-the-buck goes to Mapex.
@DreamyBongos
10 ай бұрын
down bad for downbeats
@shawndrummer6722
10 ай бұрын
Tama W/B floor tom is very badly tuned.
@markusthedrummer8143
10 ай бұрын
Gretsch just absolutely nailed it when they created the Brooklyn series. Not only do they sound unique and amazing but they look unique and amazing. Also the drummer who played that Gretsch Brooklyn kit knows how to demo a drum kit, much better than Shane does it. If I had 4000 laying around, I would probably order that exact kit with that amazing snare drum. Great job on the video fellas.
@DrummerGrrrl
10 ай бұрын
Oh, that Gretsch kit is sooooooooo amazing in looks and sound! Wow! 🎉🎉❤❤
@malachiroberts2992
10 ай бұрын
Yamaha makes some fire 20” kicks as well. The Live Custom Hybrid Oak in particular. I heard Snarky Puppy’s Jamison Ross behind one of those and you’d think it was a 24” with how massive it sounded.
@Lumerdrums
10 ай бұрын
great video! I recorded the mapex saturn V 22" and the 20" kicks with the same heads on, and have to admit that the 20" performed better. It had more punch. You can always dial in low bass information in the mix with EQing or a subsynth, but getting that punch is more difficult. If I have the choice I am going with the 20" kick :)
@kevinbothwell8425
10 ай бұрын
you guys accidentally also just posted the first demonstration of the new meinl pure alloy extra thin hammered hats. love that!
@tinterlande
10 ай бұрын
That was no accident 😉
@kevinbothwell8425
10 ай бұрын
@@tinterlande I realized this by the end 😂
@mikeskenne
10 ай бұрын
Love 20" kicks! My Starclassic Bubinga/Birch is the best sounding bass drum I've ever heard. Such a deep warm sound. Thanks y'all!
@bradleyhenady2032
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch wins for me but that Mapex had no right to sound so good.
@willmason8421
10 ай бұрын
Sound-wise kits: Gretsch # 1, Tama # 2, Ludwig # 3, Mapex # 4. Sound-wise snares: Gretsch # 1, Ludwig # 2, Tama # 3, Mapex # 4. Features: Tama # 1 (love the bass drum tom mount), all others # 2. Love a 20" kick, especially for gigging, versatile, smaller, lighter.
@dreamdrummer01
10 ай бұрын
Not every single day you hear a snare through room mics that sounds that full!!! The Black Panther is unbelievable good
@drumcenternh
10 ай бұрын
Right? What a drum!
@nested_King
10 ай бұрын
Tama look and sound hands down
@menom7
10 ай бұрын
I LOVE 20 in. Bass drums!!! I've combined that as my main one,and Frankensteined in my "black" Peart set (with a 22 in. Bass drum) and tuned both of them to sound almost identical,but when I'm double-pedaling it,You can hear a very slight difference between the two,but to me,that GIVES the overall sound,even MORE Character!!! : >)
@drumnutz
10 ай бұрын
I would've really liked seeing Sonor Vintage Series in this lineup. Of the four, I think I preferred the Gretsch overall. All kick drums sounded really good, with a slight edge going to Gretsch. I liked the copper snare as well, and the Mapex Jeff Hamilton was really nice. It might be a tough choice. But the Gretsch toms sounded great together and blended perfectly with the set as a whole. I think I subconsciously expected Ludwig to emerge victoriously.
@andreasjonsson8075
5 ай бұрын
Hey @Drumcenterofportsmouth. Do you have any 15 inch floortoms? 12 and 15 combo are a true gem
@drumcenternh
5 ай бұрын
Nothing in stock right now, but we would be happy to help you with an order! Give us a call or email us!
@dugjay
10 ай бұрын
For the kit, I'm liking the Gretsch. Overall nice tones and a lot of depth for the sizes. The 20'' kick would be a nice addition to anyone that plays in a space that isn't very large but still provides a punch when needed. The Supraphonic is my favorite but the Mapex was no slouch. Both sounded great. Nice vid gang!
@joeypeacock1673
10 ай бұрын
Can't help but notice the beautiful Sonor drums behind you.
@adamfrost3722
10 ай бұрын
That one of a kind candy black burst over silky oak SQ2 kit does look exceptional…
@RidgeRunner78
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch sounded the best to me. Mapex for the runner up. The Mapex snare hands down...cheers!
@ChrisHyde-o3q
9 ай бұрын
WOW! That Mapex Black Panther Maximus snare sounded fantastic. So did the Ludwig kick drum. 20" kick drums in general, are better than 22" kick drums for a few main reasons. They allow for lower mounting of toms and cymbals, easier to transport, smaller set up space on stage/riser, and they more closely resemble the smaller overall size of the electronic drums that you may practice on.
@carlupthegrove262
10 ай бұрын
They all sounded not only great but very similar. 20" is my 'go to' size although I play a 22" and and 18" in some situations. To me that configuration 12/14/20 is the most versatile and any of these kits would be welcome in my house. The Mapex snare is amazing, as is Jeff Hamilton. :-)
@davewills94
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch just seems to have the best overall tone. It sounded bigger than the sizes...That Mapex was really holding it's own against the older brands tho.
@chrisfromfrome9016
10 ай бұрын
There is a fair amount of music that sits between jazz and rock don't you think?...
@adamfrost3722
10 ай бұрын
not in my tiny, tiny world
@pfunnk14
10 ай бұрын
Damn Tony that was some sick playing! Even got a stank face in there for a minute! Lol
@tinterlande
10 ай бұрын
Haha thanks! Stank facing grooves
@1thess523
4 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure a 20in Kick would keep up unmic'd but when I put the right heads on this little Japanese Mahogany kick inwas totally surprised. I'm only 5'6 andni like a very tight kick so I prefer a 20in now
@MrBeeLair
10 ай бұрын
Classic Maple did it for me, but I gotta tell you... it's getting harder and harder to just dismiss Mapex. Being a huge Jeff Hamilton fan I was familiar with his signature snare, but in a much higher tuning than what you guys had. More depth and body than I expected. And as far as the 20-inch goes, there's definitely some punch there, but for my style of playing they leave me a bit wanting. Great video guys!
@Warpedsmac
9 ай бұрын
I have played evrything but a 26" bass...(couldnt fit one in my LS400) The 20 inch is the best size...especially for travelling. BUT they MUST have 10 tensioners per head.
@ImreImbrium
10 ай бұрын
This vid sounds awesome. All the kits sound incredible. Love the choices in snares as well. +1 to whomever decided on the cymbals too! Great work!
@genericsomething
10 ай бұрын
That Mapex kit is an interesting combination of what I'm looking for. I tried out a Mapex kit in a store several months ago, and I was impressed by how responsive it was, and how good it sounded with halfway worn-out heads. The mounting hardware for the toms sucked, but the drums sounded impressive for the price.
@ppernett1
10 ай бұрын
Well done on that one…lol. I actually laughed out load… by myself..
@deputyrock3489
9 ай бұрын
I liked the Gretsch best overall. It had the most pleasing tone to my ears. But wow that Ludwig kick was seriously impressive. Everyone go back and listen to the Ludwig kick with just the room mic. Incredible low end.
@norbertrenner9364
8 ай бұрын
Guess that's a great size.....Ginger Baker played one in early days and a dw 20x12 at the Cream concerts 2005 in the Royal Albert Hall
@williamperri3437
10 ай бұрын
That Gretsch sounds phenomenal! I fell in love with 20 inch kick drums when I first heard a recording custom 20” kick, and then the following year in 1996 the stage customs came out and the 20” bass drum blew me away! The 20” BD is a sweet spot between bop and Rock! Think like Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters album. 20” BD are perfect for that type of feel. Or just singer songwriter stuff. The feel of the 20” is amazing to me.
@christophersullivan6405
10 ай бұрын
Oh man. i am currently debating between Ludwig Classic Maple and Gretsch Brooklyn, qnd 20" vs 22". I am not sure this video helped. But head to head, I think I liked the Gretsch better. The floor tom had some umph to it.
@johncollins5552
10 ай бұрын
I rock a 20 by 15 sonor vintage beech kick, as well as a punchy sound it makes ot easier to lay into a tom thats not mounted higher as a bigger bassdrum impedes the tom setup. Also a 20 is so much more portable moving through doorways and up flights of stairs and in or out of my small classic vw bug to jams or gigs! Win, win.
@BrassAttack1
29 күн бұрын
All very nice, however I liked the Gretsch the most, followed by Ludwig. I like that you used the same heads, however it's better to hear each kit played by the same person, since everyone's "touch" is different. Glad you had the same player at the end for the direct comparison portion.
@Monsterdrumma
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch for me hands down. I prefer a 22” kick I have to USA custom kits I bought used and had a 16”-20” well still have but I used it for almost 2 decades and always heard my kick didn’t keep up with the power of the toms being a heel down guy. I found another kit with a 14”-22” and it sounds killer and solved the volume and cutting issue! I don’t love 20” kicks personally.
@RaelThomas
5 ай бұрын
1. Gretsch by a mile 2. Ludwig 3. Mapex 4. Tama (sorry, Tama!) That Gretsch just has so much more oomph for a small kit. That bass drum is thiiick
@Cmart50
10 ай бұрын
Good stuff guys, I played an excellent 20" Mapex in the late 90's, one of the best kicks i ever had. Was going to downsize pretty soon again from my current 22" and was thinking Tama birch/Starclassic. In terms of playing in cover bands, and acoustic trios who's setlist spans from the 60's to modern day, the size works fine for me. Usually play wide open unmic'd, and in larger clubs in a full band setting, can get a nice punchy sound mic'd up. I've just had it lugging around the deeper larger kicks all the time.
@evanbrownell4832
10 ай бұрын
Man, the feel that the drummer on the Gretsch kit is amazing! Anyone know his name/have info about him? It was fantastic! Great video DCP.
@tinterlande
10 ай бұрын
That would be John Funk, Sales and Customer Service!
@adamfrost3722
10 ай бұрын
It’s in the chapter notes!
@JumboRC
10 ай бұрын
Playing in the bars and clubs here in New York City I use a Downbeat setup, anything bigger and it’ll be too much. Nobody is using large amps and sound systems anymore.
@marcogeraci2555
4 ай бұрын
They all sounded great miked up! I would be happy with any of these kits, but If I had to rank them, then it would be Ludwig, Gretsch, Tama, and Mapex.
@CornerStoreDrums
10 ай бұрын
OH Lets GO!! DCP absolutely BRINGS it each time out! Much appreciated! 🙏 🥁
@michaeljohnson8058
10 ай бұрын
Woah! They were sounding good & then i heard the mapex holy schnikey!
@michaelbourg8294
2 ай бұрын
I have a !eLudwig 20 X 18 that I special ordered a few years ago. It sounds amazing. I’m not sure but Morgan Rose used to play if not still does, a 20” kick. He rocks it and I probably ordered mine because of this although he uses Pearl. Great demo! Love the Mapex snare!
@alexismoma
10 ай бұрын
Great video! Gretsch was my favorite kit and that supraphonic is amazing. I own a 20 inch Premiere birch 7x drum kit (I am missing the 10 and 12 toms :c) and it sounds great! I love the versatility and mobility of the kit and I wouldn't trade it for bigger resonance.
@jc3drums916
4 ай бұрын
20" bass drums are like 20" rides for me. They have a tighter, more focused sound, but they lack the deep, full tone of a 22". (24" is even better in that regard, but that's where the size becomes a significant issue for me.) Personally, the only reason I would use a 20" is if I could only have one size for everything. If I want a different sound, or if practicality is my primary concern (rack tom height, ease of transport), I'd rather go with 18" or 16". I also don't see any point in having a bass drum deeper than 16", but that's a whole other can of worms.
@AMx39
5 ай бұрын
For me it’s goes: 1. Brooklyn ( great Gretchen sound character. Nice round, open, punchy sound) 2. Mapex ( sounded the best as a complete kit with the cymbals used. Very modern clean sound) 3. Classic maple (sounded good but nothing special) 4. Yama sounded the worst ( sounded restricted or chocked out. Snare was good though). Want me that Brooklyn though mmmnmm!
@jwdynamics3678
10 ай бұрын
Best sounding kick in the vid, the TAMA, best sounding toms, the Gretcsh, best sounding snare, the mapex. Sorry Ludwig wasnt a fan.
@markpmar0356
6 ай бұрын
Joe Morello used a Downbeat with Brubeck so the configuration has an unimpeachable jazz credential. Steve Gadd used a 20" frequently as well. It's probably the most versatile size in bass drums of all of them, definitely more so than a 22".
@WaterbottlE5
5 ай бұрын
Damn, I know this video was supposed to be about 20” bass drums but all 4 snares stole the show. The Mapex evolution kit was my favorite, mostly because I have one and it’s awesome, but I have 22” bass drums. Nothing against the other kits, they sounded great as well. Still don’t love 20” bass drums, just sounded like something was missing, must be the other 2”s
@Steven_Snell
10 ай бұрын
Sorry to go off topic, but last night I bought a bunch of hardware from you guys off Reverb. I just bought a Ludwig classic maple kit (burgundy pearl), and I'm decking it out with Ludwig hardware. Thanks, from Nashville!
@richboshart1201
10 ай бұрын
Love my small Tama Starclassic maple 20x14” kick. That little kick kicks. The Tama toms here sounded more throaty if that makes sense.
@Roberto-tm8fk
10 ай бұрын
In my opinion all the kit tested have a good sound…..the differences in sound of toms and bass drum are very very minimal ..I don’t know how you can say of one is better than otre …(the usual mental masturbation of the drummers, Myself included 😂😂😂)….regard the sound of the kit under test I think there are three fondamentali thing to consider 1) the musician who plays them 2) the enviromental/recording meth.in which you play. 3) the kits setting, muffling, etc.etc.)….However in conclusion i love Tama kit 😂😂😂
@MarkMonolithOfficial
10 ай бұрын
Conclusion; You can't go wrong with any of these kits. The Ludwig is all maple, while the others are combinations of various types of woods. I would pick the Ludwig as my first option and the Tama Walnut as my second.
@northamericanproductions
5 ай бұрын
Gretsch and Ludwig had the most resonance and sounded the best. Mapex sounded cheap and Tama is for people that want to sound like Lars Ulrich.
@Jaake-my2rq
10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you guys did this. I've made no secret throughout the years that I find 22" bass drums to be one of the worst concepts/designs to ever achieve the title and status of "standard" in the entire history of our instruments sold in kit form. A 20" kick is perfect for modern ( Dave/Vinnie/Dennis ) Jazz, Country, Pop, and Funk. And maybe certain Rock styles that emphasize attack in the kick drum. If the Holy Grail of attack/click be what you seek, thy quest ends here. And because there's still enough mass in a 20" drum to do so, you can dial up additional, usable, body depending upon what mics and miking techniques you use. 20" kicks also respond favorably to larger depths as well, creating more "boom" without losing that ideal attack. Most rock and hard rock drummers who buy shell packs will graduate up to a 24" or 26" kick as soon as they can because 22" kick drums cannot acoustically give them what they're after in terms of the total sound that they're looking for. Based on the ideals which I've defined above, a 22" bass drum is literally "the worst of both worlds". You'll be using the same aftermarket gizmos ( Danmar wood or hard composite beaters, quarters taped to the head at the point of beater contact etc. ) that 24" and 26" drummers use get that pronounced attack, and the same additional mics and techniques employed by the 20" drum to get some "beef" in the body. And if you're after a REALLY BIG sound, prepare to buy or rent ( for studio use ) one of those Yamaha extra large diaphragm on a miniature, double-braced snare stand microphones. If more drummers were using 20" or 24/26" bass drums, we might be able to create a situation where more shell packs being marketed and sold offer a CHOICE of kick drum sizes instead being saddled with the laziest possible option.
@jaybrasket3830
10 ай бұрын
Big fan of 20" kicks. Currently waiting on a Masterworks kit that'll have 2 of them. 😬
@NEALBABBITT
10 ай бұрын
The Gretsch was far the best to me and I don't like the Brooklyn compared to usa custom but Gretsch destroys the competition sonically.
@markmullen1852
10 ай бұрын
Gretsch by a mile. If you cant afford a Brooklyn kit, get the Catalina Club with the optional 20 inch bass drum. I have one in Mahogany and its the best sounding kit ive ever owned. Everytime i have a gig, someone compliments my kit. They sound amazing.
@Theratron
10 ай бұрын
The Mapex kit looked great, but when it comes to sound.... nothing came close to the Gretsch, in my opinion. Especially the 12" tom (why does Gretsch always seem to get these just right?) and the bassdrum sounded soooo good. The Mapex snare was great too though.
@Dan-hc1ow
9 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of 20" bass drums. They're versatile and easier to haul around. I liked the Gretsch Brooklyn overall, including the snare. I love the darker tone of copper. That said, I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised at the bottom that came out of the Ludwig bass drum for such a shallow depth.
@OliKember
10 ай бұрын
That Mapex 20" BD sounded huuuge! On a side note, can you guys please consider not flipping the stereo image every time you cut to another angle? It throws me off with every cut. I'd love you to just choose the drummer's angle and stick to it. Just my 2c.
@WilliamWallaceRoss
8 ай бұрын
Love that Mapex Evolution and I already have a Mapex 14x5 snare with Evans heads. Trying to put together a Rockabilly Kit. Thanks.
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