THEIST: Atheism is a religion of self. ATHEIST: No, Atheists believe in nothing. THEIST: Is that really what you believe? ATHEIST: Yes. THEIST: Well, who am I to call you irrational? ATHEIST: What do you mean? THEIST: Never mind.
@Eisenbison
6 жыл бұрын
You phrase that as though all atheists are self-denying nihilists. Fortunately, you don't get to define what an Atheist is. An atheist is someone who simply lacks belief in a god. Personally, I find absolutely no evidence or reason to believe in a God or Gods, and plenty of good reasons NOT to believe. Blaming what we don't know on gods and magic has never once helped to expand or advance our understanding of anything, and has a perfect rate of 100% failure once we found the right explanation for anything previously attributed to the supernatural.
@3438-e9z
5 жыл бұрын
Alec Eisenbeis You contradicted yourself dumbass. You said that you don’t believe in magic but you believe that nothing can create something? What about new discoveries in molecular biology that point to an intelligent designer (ie God). There’s evidence that God exists but if you’re willfully ignorant then you’ll never see the truth. The only question which version of God do we believe? That’s anyone’s guess.
@delphos1223
11 жыл бұрын
Although Frank Turek is a christian, he is not referring to Christianity in this video, only Deism and Atheism.
@ononon2earth
10 жыл бұрын
I am an atheist and even though I'm not convinced I must admit he had a very good flow. He had a very well thought out presentation than what I heard from any other theist. Better than Ray Comfort, that guy is an embarrassment. Ken Ham too.
@charleseasterday3742
9 жыл бұрын
Ekejiuba Ogbuagu Many Christians that do any research would agree with you, I can't even stand to hear Ham and Comfort. If you were impressed with Turek, look up Dr. Hugh Ross on his view of the big bang theory.
@tjhookit
8 жыл бұрын
+Ekejiuba Ogbuagu Sir, thank you for posting a respectable comment. I see so many atheists just name call and insult.
@ononon2earth
8 жыл бұрын
Todd Johnson Honestly with the internet everyone has a shield of anonymity. Same reason why videos about black people have n-bombs all over the comment section. While there may be some on both sides (atheists and theists) that just insult and name call I what to tell you to not let it discourage you from exploring the opinions of others. I like to believe that we should all have thick skin because what is true is most important. Even when I became an atheist all the insults didn't stop. Not only from KZitem comment sections, but harshly from TV and everyday life.
@themetsfan861
11 жыл бұрын
You can be an intellectual and religious. I consider myself an intellectual, though I believe deeply in the Lord of the Universe, He with the Unspeakable Name, frequently abbreviated YHVH.
@delphos1223
11 жыл бұрын
Is he a minister? I thought he was just a christian academic. And the audience is as much christian as it is atheist, this is from a debate with an atheist.
@charleseasterday3742
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these vids! I have never witnessed an atheist refuting the points if these videos. Ad Hominem and straw man is all they have.Atheist, pick a point and refute it or go home and ask the Creator to reveal himself to you. Or how about showing me your viable, sustainable worldview without God.
@bohemond1054
9 жыл бұрын
Charles Easterday I would say the biggest problems I see in his argument is that he is using god as an explanation for these facts. In order to prove god did those things, you have to prove a god exists. To provide an analogy (albeit crude), if you are walking through central park and think you see something and claim it was a dinosaur, you first have to prove that dinosaurs do in fact exist in central park. Otherwise, no one will take your claim seriously. If you find a carcass, or footprints, or some type of evidence of a dinosaur in central park, then I will believe that what you saw was in fact a dinosaur. There are unanswered questions about our universe he brings up but in order to claim god did those things, you first have to prove he/she even exists. Otherwise you are putting the cart before the horse, in a sense. That is my main objection. Did I straw man or conduct an ad hominem attack?
@haroldcrenshaw5630
6 жыл бұрын
Charles Easterday is he a scientist? I cant understand his fast doubletalk
@robertlewis9132
5 жыл бұрын
Atheism makes no claims. It simply acknowledges they are not convinced by any of these made up theisms.
@mountaindew7190
3 күн бұрын
That is agnostic. If you choose nothing then you still have made a choice.
@bohemond1054
9 жыл бұрын
It's a false dichotemy, or simply the wrong question to ask. It could be neither "no one" or "someone" that is reponsible for the universe to exist. It could simply come from the nature of the physical laws that govern our universe. It is also okay to say, "I don't know", rather than make a claim that can't be substantiated. Also, an atheist can rely on reason. We trust our sense and reasoning based off of their continued reliability of producing effective results. Using our reason, we have produced fantastic results. This is a good basis to continue with our sense of reasoning. No god is required. He also is quote mining scientists left and right which is VERY dishonest and something every christian apologetist relies on even though they know what they are doing is misleading. Also, evolution is a guided process. Through mutation and natural selection desireable traits proliferate and less desireable traits fizzle out. GUIDING populations and species in a direction that better allows them to survive and reproduce. It is natures way of designing us to survive in our environment. The environment wasn't shaped for us, evolution shaped us to our environment. And to say since we evolved over time we couldn't have free will or have an ability to reason, is an absurd statement. Increased brain size and nuerological connections are the basis for the incredible brains we have today. No god explanation required. Also, his analogies of NON-REPRODUCING objects to living, reproducing organisms are false analogies. Outright, flat out deception. Lies. The reason we appear designed and our DNA have codes is because of evolution. It is a guided process like I mentioned before. This man is dishonest and misleading. You can believe in evolution and god by the way. Most do believe both actually.
@delphos1223
11 жыл бұрын
"A minister can't be a christian academic". You just lost all intellectual credibility.
@Pedro-gu2iq
8 жыл бұрын
Gold Job Frank, very simple and makes sense.
@Eisenbison
6 жыл бұрын
Nothing about Christianity is logical or makes sense if you actually know what you're talking about.
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
Yeh none of it makes sense. He's talking about something he has no idea about
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
We're limited my language. Language are sounds we use to communicate. Not talk about the origins of the universe. The word nothing for example is used like the way we use it. It doesn't work. Simple for simple minded people
@MrsZambezi
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Frank is very simple but no, he doesn't make any sense. And he has an annoying voice.
@maow9240
5 жыл бұрын
@@Eisenbison Christianity makes perfect sense if you know what you are talking about!
@fotbollen2001
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Where can I find part 2?
@TheJwwinter
6 жыл бұрын
Atheism fails because of only one reason. Its wrong.
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
TheJwwinter prove it. Also prove theism is true. Do that and you have a good reason to speak
@TheJwwinter
6 жыл бұрын
@zone angel - Frank has shown it several times in his videos, no need for me to prove it.
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
TheJwwinter name ONE place where he proved it just ONE. And I will educate you other wise. I'm guessing your American. Cos you ain't the brightest
@TheJwwinter
6 жыл бұрын
There's no reason I should take your words over Turek's. You seem to be very arrogant, What place are you from ?
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
TheJwwinter believing this guy is not only arrogant but incredibly ignorant. I'm asking where has he proved it. If you think this man is correct I'd be more worried. I can explain to you step by step point after point how he's wrong. And I'm from England
@beauty.of.the.struggle
4 жыл бұрын
So where is the link to part 2??
@lovefloreal9016
6 жыл бұрын
This man is so smart
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
Love Floreal He is actually very deluded. He doesn't understand science or locgic. He just thinks he does. He's like she ten. Pre set possisionist who looks for floors in science just because he doesn't understand. I'm not an atheist but I don't let idiots like this guy talk shit to me
@Zinner222
6 жыл бұрын
I can tell by what you said you do not understand science either. Your head is full of shit.
@Julian_H
9 жыл бұрын
What if the multiverse exists? then if each universe forms differently, there's a high probability one will support life. In fact, one may have completely different physics that will support life in very different conditions from our universe. The flaw with an intelligent designer is it doesn't solve any problems. Like the question of how the big bang was created and how it was so finely tuned, how was a designer created and why did the designer create a universe to support life, and why doesn't he do more to this universe?
@romaimhernandez5560
6 жыл бұрын
Sockman many atheists claim that they don’t believe in God due to the lack of evidence, can I ask what your evidence is for multiple universes?
@FatBug12
Жыл бұрын
How can atheism fail if it doesn't make any claims?
@Mr.C-Mister
7 жыл бұрын
I love this video
@FrancisMetal
3 жыл бұрын
science says that universe probably comes from quantum vacuum and not from "nothing", we don't now, at this moment, if space and time began to exist. Therefore is more prudent to say "I don't know" instead to fill the gap with God
@georgem2046
5 жыл бұрын
There is obviously overwhelming evidence for God but it's not that people don't believe in God they just deny his existence. Mankind knows instinctively of its creator because God is spirit and reveals Himself in Spirit, so no man can tell their Creator on Judgement Day that they didn't know.
@Personmr
5 жыл бұрын
You only believe that because you know it would be immoral for Yahweh to send people to Hell for not knowing about him. Theologians know that it would be wrong to send someone to Hell out of ignorance so you pretend that everyone secretly believes in him so that you can pretend Christian morality is consistent and righteous. It's hard to justify the fact you believe that most people in history never heard of Jesus and therefore are being tortured for all eternity according to the Wholly Fable. There is no evidence of anything called "spirit" nor anything called "Spirit". The only spirits that exist are the one's you can buy at the liquor store.
@beauty.of.the.struggle
4 жыл бұрын
Upload Pt. 2, PLEASE!
@delphos1223
11 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying he's a pastor?
@guyjosephs5654
4 жыл бұрын
Just cause he doesn’t have “faith” wrong word to use there frank-that that’s the constant gravity and others values are doesn’t mean that it can’t be.
@blackneos940
5 жыл бұрын
There's even the idea that this Universe is a simulation. I don't believe in that, but it goes to show how much more likely that the Universe had a designer than not. :)
@phenomenal17playz
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely refutation of atheism
@bobwhelan5636
6 жыл бұрын
"I don't know, so therefore god". Well done, that certainly clears everything up. I always thought it was physics and chemistry, but I was wrong. Sky fairy magic did it.
@Zinner222
6 жыл бұрын
Typical Atheist argument. Do not like the answer and cannot give a counter argument, resort to the Sky Fairy and Spaghetti Monster. Believe me, you are not the intellectual elite like you think you are. You are fools.
@bobwhelan5636
6 жыл бұрын
We are not the ones who say that their invisible friend is real. That's not just foolish, that's delusional.
@Zinner222
6 жыл бұрын
LIFE FROM NON LIFE Consciousness from non consciousness A universe from nothing Complex structures with purpose and function from chaos and disorder No evidence for any of this. Must be invisible.You live in a world of delusions and fairy tales. Maybe Tinkerbell made it all happen with her pixie dust.
@bobwhelan5636
6 жыл бұрын
The answer to your points is simple - natural physical processes. All that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist, is the product of these processes. There is no other concept required, or, indeed, available. Denying the stacks of extant evidence does not make something else that actually has no evidence correct. The evidence you seek is actually all around you - if life didn't come from non life there wouldn't be any life, etc. The sooner theists understand their invisible friends did not create the universe just for them, the sooner humanity throws off the superstitious bronze age brain farts they think explains everything and the species can move forward.
@Zinner222
6 жыл бұрын
Everything you said was Circular reasoning. You used the assumption of evolution to prove evolution. Evolution is true, therefore it happened. Science uses observational evidence that exists in the present. Since none of those things happens in the present ,evolution is not happening and we have no reason to believe it happened for billions of yrs. You do not even have a High school understanding of science. You were brainwashed by the New Atheists. You can continue these peole are infallible and know better than everyone else. I will stickwith science. It is far better.
@greatjaygatsby
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, he just knows who banged it!! All he is saying is: "I don't know how it all came about, how we got here - therefore god must have done it". There is no difference between Turek and some viking thousand years ago saying "look, lightning! - it is so incredible and i dont understand it - therefore Thor must be doing it"
@Ryan-rh8rn
6 жыл бұрын
Jay Gatsby How is that ANY DIFFERENT than someone saying that the house you live in popped into existence from nothing with no cause. So our universe is uncaused and just happened all by accident, with all its complexity?
@josheberhardt4030
6 жыл бұрын
Soo true, ya know as long as you just ignore all of the logic and evidence he uses and provides and just blindly accept things that have no evidence for them such as the universe came from nothing lol
@fannytant5303
6 жыл бұрын
Jay Gatsby logic tells u that an intelligent creator must have done this which turek explained. why are u "atheists" so dense? educate yourself on the subject and at least show god that u put effort into comprehending the world, narrow minded as u are.
@JohnSmith-fz1ih
6 жыл бұрын
*How is that ANY DIFFERENT than someone saying that the house you live in popped into existence from nothing with no cause.* One word: evidence. Scientists didn't just start saying the universe popped into existence from nothing because they felt like it. In fact that idea is pretty much the opposite of what happened. The big bang theory was proposed less than a century ago, and the theory was viewed very skeptically. It took decades before it was universally accepted by scientists. And the reason those scientists changed their minds and accepted is because that's where all of the evidence pointed to. Your suggestion that the following two sentences are the same is ridiculous: * "There's a phenomena I don't understand, I'm going to baselessly assert that a supernatural entity made it happen" * "There's a phenomena I didn't understand. Science looked into it and over the course of several decades found an overwhelming amount of evidence showing how it happened" *So our universe is uncaused and just happened all by accident, with all its complexity?* Nobody knows. There are plenty of hypotheses about what came before the big bang, and none of them require a supernatural entity that is completely unexplained and for which there is no evidence. This is why Mr Turek's presentation is pointless. He's taking the unknown and concluding "God did it". It was literally a ten-minute long God-of-the-gaps fallacy. If you expect anyone with critical thought to accept God created the universe then you had better have some exceptional evidence. Because history is littered with things that people of the time concluded were unexplainable and must have been gods (like the lightning example you replied to). And we were later able to explain the cause with entirely natural means. It's a brave (read: credulous) person to think that the creation of the universe is any different.
@JohnSmith-fz1ih
6 жыл бұрын
*logic tells u that an intelligent creator must have done this...* Faulty logic. If you want someone to believe your astounding claims you need to start providing evidence, not logical fallacious, special pleading, ignorance, and God-of-the-gaps. *educate yourself on the subject....* I am somewhat well-educated in the area of cosmology and the big bang, as far as lay-people go. And even someone with my base understanding can see that what Mr Turek is peddling is fallacious. *...and at least show god that u put effort into comprehending the world, narrow minded as u are.* It's hard to take you seriously when you call people uneducated and narrow-minded for not believing your baseless claim that a god exists and created the universe. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that's true, and even contemplating the possibility for a second throws up far more questions than it answers. How did this god come into existence? How is he able to create universes? There are lots, lots more but most importantly... how can we investigate this claim to see if there is evidence to suggest it is true? And that's the problem you have. You have your claim. You are convinced it is true, and want to convince others it is true. But you have no evidence to suggest it is even possible, nevermind likely. So I'm sorry but no, you don't get to call other people uneducated when you are suggesting something so devoid of reason. The moment you have evidence to back up your assertion the world will start listening, just like with all scientific claims. The big bang has met it's burden of proof. The theory explaining how lighting forms has met its burden of proof. Evolution has met its burden of proof. Now either meet yours, or stop claiming the existence of god is anything other than baseless conjecture.
@MrsZambezi
10 жыл бұрын
Atheism is the default for all humans until or unless someone mentions that Thor is real and creates thunderstorms.
@MrsZambezi
8 жыл бұрын
Did not believing in Thor turn you into a spoilt brat?
@ericbreaux6124
7 жыл бұрын
Babies don't think about purpose in life or if there is a creator because they're preoccupied with eating and playing. And if you're going to argue that babies are atheists simply because they don't have an opinion on the matter, then that contradicts atheism being concluded from rational deduction of evidence for the reality of our world and universe. You want to have your cake and eat it, too.
@yourdaddy9986
7 жыл бұрын
Boom.
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
Eric Breaux not it doesn't contradict anything. You're thinking of the Bible. Babies are atheists.
@jerelle6283
6 жыл бұрын
No it's not what the fuck are you talking about.
@ta3p-theannex3project84
5 жыл бұрын
Is this a competition. ?
@AwrieX
5 жыл бұрын
Magnificent! Thank you Mr. Turek
@goor1322
6 жыл бұрын
Pwned! Theist 1, Atheist 0.
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but "I don't know, therefore God." is not a valid argument, nor is it capable of actually explaining anything or improving our understanding of anything.
@scarfhs1
8 жыл бұрын
2:45 How does he know what values of the gravitational constant are possible.
@wedgemahalo640
7 жыл бұрын
Is he actually comparing the alignment of Alpha Bits with life forms which reproduce?
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes he is. He doesn't understand that both amino acids and genetic momomers can form themselves under natural conditions, that we have several working hypotheses for how they might have emerged in the primordial soup, and that they can self-polymerize into "sentences". Of course, the way life developed from the most rudimentary of microbes far less complicated than E. coli to the vastly more complicated single-celled and multi-celled organisms of today wasn't "dumb luck" it was the product of *billions* of years of evolution, natural selection, trial and error, and survival of the fittest, as well as many mass-extinction events.
@CosmicFaust
8 жыл бұрын
Ok let's examine Turek's thesis in full detail. His thesis instantly is invalid because it is a straw-man. He is conflating materialism with atheism as if there are the same thing. There aren't the same thing (Atheism ≠ Materialism). Materialism is the metaphysical belief of philosophical monism which holds that matter is the fundamental substance in nature, and that all phenomena, including mental phenomena and consciousness, are results of material interactions. Atheism is the negation of the proposition that a personal God exists. You can be an atheist and not a materialist. Arthur Schopenhaeur was a German philosopher and yet he was an atheist and an idealist (he believed all was mind). He was one of the biggest critics of materialism and even said "materialism is the philosophy of the subject who forgets to take account of himself". Thomas Nagel is one of the greatest philosophers alive today and he is an atheist and yet he has wrote an explosive book called *Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature is Almost Certainly False.* Nagel ultimately believes the mind is immaterial and seems to subscribe to a dualistic picture of consciousness. Karl Popper who was one of the best philosophers of science in the 20th century was an agnostic and subscribed to a dualistic picture of consciousness. Bertrand Russell was one of the most famous philosophers of all time and yet he was an atheist and rejected materialism for philosophical realism. Immanuel Kant was most likely an agnostic and yet he was an idealist also. Giovanni Gentile was an Italian atheist philosopher who was an idealist also. Ionel Gherea was a Romanian philosopher who was an agnostic and also an idealist. Sir James Hopwood Jeans was an English physicist, astronomer and mathematician. He was an idealist and an agnostic and was famous for saying "the universe begins to look more like a giant thought, than a machine". J.M.E. Mctaggart was a British philosopher and an idealist. McTaggart concluded the world was composed of nothing but souls, each soul related to one or more of the others by love. While he argued against belief in a personal God for any one personality and denied the absolute (thereby justifying his atheism), McTaggart's philosophy was fundamentally optimistic. McTaggart believed each of the souls (which are identified with human beings) to be immortal and defended the idea of reincarnation. McTaggart held the view that all selves are unoriginated and indestructible. Even the legendary atheistic philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche was one of the main people to challenge the doctrines of materialism. So Turek's thesis just isn't valid at all and is almost laughable. Also there are even Christians who are materialists. The most famous one is the philosopher Peter Van Inwagen.
@noahperri9167
6 жыл бұрын
Ellis Farrow "Let's examine Turek's thesis in full detail." *instantly generalizes over 1 point
@sr241265
8 жыл бұрын
The fine tuning argument has been hurting apologists for years now yet Frank is clutching onto it still. In a nutshell when something is designed and finely tuned it is done so to conform with its surroundings. An omnipotent creator does not need to comply with external restrictions, he simply does as he pleases, if he does have to conform then he loses his right to be titled omnipotent ! If the argument for "fine tuning" of our Earth, is christians best evidence for a deity creator then explain why 99.999999% of our universe wants to kill us immediately ? There are black holes every where wanting to swallow up anything in its path, completely uninhabitable planets, and the billions of other universes are too far away for us mere mortals to explore in our lifetimes, clearly showing our multi verse is not designed for us and completely random. I couldn't get past Franks first argument which failed miserably, whilst he seems to believe what he is preaching, this does not make any of it truth statements, and nothing less than unsubstantiated subjective opinion.
@borsdeganys4533
8 жыл бұрын
You are right. We should have the God should have created u with the power to survive in vacuum and to fly like superman....wait. No, we should have no universe and just one massive landmass that expands the length of the universe with nothing that could harm us. NAY!!! He should have made us immortal!!!!
@ethanfoster741
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the creator didn't want to create a simple universe. Maybe there's some grand scheme going on. The whole point is that the universe appears to have a design so it's most reasonable to assume there is a designer.
@sunsetpalms1923
5 жыл бұрын
His whole argument assumes that "nothing" exists. There is no evidence that nothing exists or has ever existed. When he has an example of nothing, I will listen to the rest of his argument.
@TheMindaeva
5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Doesn't a singularity imply it is nothingness? Nothing is the 0th dimension. It has no space, nor time. No thing.
@pasainchina97
8 жыл бұрын
Atheism is untenable in spite of many adherents and followers. It is not a case of criticizing or being humorous, but a case of finding the real truth.
@yiqingwang1437
8 жыл бұрын
what is the truth? who defines it? Can logic arise from illogic? John 1:1
@pasainchina97
8 жыл бұрын
Truth is not a concept, but a person namely Jesus Christ. He is absolute truth ! Where are you from ?
@pasainchina97
8 жыл бұрын
Yes logic can arise from illogic, we are all searching and many of us start off from a false premise. Atheism itself is totally illogical on so many levels, that something came from absolutely nothing.
@yiqingwang1437
8 жыл бұрын
+The Berean if that is the case, how does illogic knows it is logic or not.... xd
@pasainchina97
8 жыл бұрын
By reason, some arguments are clearly illogical, but in the defense of your standpoint you can sometimes find your standpoint to be in incorrect. Where are you from ????
@zoneangel8679
6 жыл бұрын
A lot of disagreements on this thread and I've read most of them. Straight away you can tell the different mind sets between atheists and theists. Theists straight away making claims that can't be proved. And when asked give a bullshit answer again proving nothing. This man doesn't help the situation of a theist. Just confuses them more. I disproved this man's claims step by step. So I want proper evidence for the existence of god and proper claims for god making the universe.
@cwdor
5 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as gravity or time.
@LucidVision138
5 жыл бұрын
There is so much wrong with your comment, first of all gravity is an undeniable proven fact and if gravity didn't exist then you would be floating around as we speak along with everything else on the earth and as a matter of fact the Earth would not exist without gravity Secondly regardless if you believe in science as an atheist or if you're a Christian that believes in the Bible then you have to believe that time exist no matter what because science proves that time is a part of the laws of physics which the speed of light also undeniably confirms time and you are experiencing time as we speak if you believe in Christianity you still have to believe in time because time is mentioned in the Bible all the time *no pun intended*
@cwdor
5 жыл бұрын
@@LucidVision138 ....if there was time then every thing would have to exist at the exact same instant....and something is holding the atioms together, but there's nothing there.... it's Jahovah.... repent accept Jahovah and do good works.
@LucidVision138
5 жыл бұрын
@@cwdor Firstly, his name is Yahweh not Jehovah which speaking of which you spelled *Jehovah* wrong. Jehovah's Witness religion is not the true nature of Christ or the Bible, the Jehovah's Witness religion was made up by the late 1800s which stole from the true story of the Bible which has been around for 2000 years. Even if Jehovah's Witness was true which it isn't, you would still have to believe in time because "Jehovah" created time and the beginning. Time is an undeniable proven law of physics so to think time doesn't exist is simply moronic.
@Jammin1245
11 жыл бұрын
Well done!!!
@grayfox7182
9 жыл бұрын
I can't prove that god doesn't exist in the same way you can't prove santa doesn't exist. Or anything that is invisible, massless, and has no real effect in your everyday life.
@charleseasterday3742
9 жыл бұрын
Gray Fox Ah, but Santa Clause (Saint Nicholas) did exist and we can show that he was personified to control the behavior of children. So we know St. Nicholas had a beginning and that he died. The catholic church established his saint hood and the myth grew. That is how we prove Santa, as an actual, eternal, being doesn't exist. That wasn't so hard was it? I know, I know, it broke your heart when you learned the truth.Now, since I just proved the Santa does not exist, show me how the God, you don't believe in, is the same and does not exist. Remember, you made the claim that I could not.
@grayfox7182
9 жыл бұрын
Invisible, massless.. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you. You choose to believe in magic, and that's fine by me.
@charleseasterday3742
9 жыл бұрын
Gray Fox But I don't believe in real magic. Masters of illusion are fun but that's the extent of it. There is nothing magical about the existence of something that created space, time and matter that is not bound by those constraints. Only those that have nothing but the material are limited in their thinking.
@meta4282
8 жыл бұрын
+Gray Fox - Well then you have a problem if you can't disprove God. Then your view is wrong. Case in point.
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
@@meta4282 There's no need to disprove something that was never indicated in the first place, and which isn't even possible according to everything we know about reality at all. The burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim. If you claim that God exists, it's up to you to provide evidence or reason indicative of and exclusive to that position. If you can't do that, that's your failure and your burden.
@haroldcrenshaw5630
6 жыл бұрын
How do you spell gibberish?
@Zinner222
6 жыл бұрын
I know. A T H E I S T
@wholesoul
8 жыл бұрын
Wow! You have a lot of faith in science! You believe BEFOREHAND that science can give us the answers for everything or every question. Sorry, but that is scientism, not science.
@Personmr
5 жыл бұрын
Science precludes faith. Also we know that philosophy can be used to answer less objective questions such as ones of morality and aesthetics. Skeptical atheists use science to justify their beliefs and we acknowledge that science only answers objective questions and that it merely informs philosophy. Scientism is a word invented to attack people who base their opinions and ideas on evidence and reason. Here is an example of science informing moral philosophy: Science has shown that second hand smoke increases the risk of cancer. Cancer causes suffering. Therefore smoking near your baby is immoral because you risk causing avoidable and unnecessary suffering. Science is used because it get results: Science flies you to the moon and religion flies you into buildings.
@fannytant5303
6 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@alexjones1935
7 жыл бұрын
"The cause of the universe is the un-caused first cause" Haha what?! "God's outside of time" Ok, if you say so. So if anyone says anything, is it automatically true? That's what this guy is arguing...
@Ryan-rh8rn
6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Jones Did you even listen to the video?
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
You should not laugh at your own incompetence to comprehend.
@jeromesavary7033
6 жыл бұрын
Assertions without proof or evidence. Intellectual dishonesty
@Think_pls
5 жыл бұрын
I was a theist for all my life, spend serious amount of time in trying to know and do the will of God, until I realized that most religious leaders are themselves liers, but since that's there source of income they make you believe it's true, innocent fallowers pay the price, where was God for all the 30 years i tried to do his will, no where, if that's not proof what is, my life was significantly damaged because of this
@maow9240
5 жыл бұрын
What sins were you commiting for those 30 years?
@declan.mclean3857
5 жыл бұрын
Lol how can atheists be this blind. Its actually SILLY that They can’t see the so obvious PROOF OF A CREATOR! Romans 1:20 King James Version (KJV) *For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:*
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
What you're talking about is literally assuming God's existence without any actual direct proof of his existence. I lack belief in God simply because there's no evidence to indicate such an idea, and plenty of reasons NOT to believe such a thing.
@brit1066
5 жыл бұрын
Typical religious CRAP. The number of ASSUMPTIONS THAT THIS ASSHOLE CLAIMS ARE TRUE IS SICKENING. Science is based on a search for truth. Truth and evidence is what science relies on. This religious cretin has ONLY, LIES, ASSumptions, FEAR, IGNORANCE AND INTOLERANCE. THERE IS NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH IN ANYTHING HE SAYS.
@merlinsdad01950
11 жыл бұрын
It's Yahweh.... pronounced YAH-WAY. I've heard it spoken many times. I'm glad YOU consider yourself intellectual and religious. My question is...have you ever heard of the argument from ignorance fallacy???? Have you ever heard of confirmation bias?? Understanding them can cure you of this religious problem you have.
@Ryan-rh8rn
6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else get the vibe that atheists look for videos like this just so they can get into a debate with everyone?
@n.manning4443
10 жыл бұрын
Turek's doctorate is in "apologetics." Why anyone thinks any of his "scientific" claims have merit is a mystery.
@lugus9261
6 жыл бұрын
N. Manning because they're not his scientific claims. They're other scientists. That work at top universities such as oxford. So yeah?
@scarfhs1
8 жыл бұрын
If god created the universe and god has no cause does that mean that the universe has no cause?
@madisondaniel3061
8 жыл бұрын
Peculiar question."god created the universe"... "the universe has no cause." The cause of the universe is God creating it.
@jonnybuttsleo3947
6 жыл бұрын
fred smith everything is created by Him, through Him and for Him. Jehovah,Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, AKA God
@lovefloreal9016
6 жыл бұрын
I just know who banged it lol
@M6Alex6961992
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frank turek , Those atheists come out of nothing :D .
@bread2770
7 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@midaslucky4363
5 жыл бұрын
I only got this: "You don't know who or what did it or how it works I believe my god did it and that he knows therefore my god did it and you're stupid not to believe that " ???
@brandonbuff3234
5 жыл бұрын
Atheism is only the rejection of Gods. With Frank's theism point of view, he's done nothing but make assertions with all these examples.
@craighawkins5876
10 жыл бұрын
The only reason anti-intellectual Turek gets a stage now - is because he debated Hitchens - who quite frankly made Turek look like an idiot. Turek even compared Nazism to Humanism; not just as similar but he amazingly substituted it as a synonym. Of course, if you accept the fine tuning argument leads to the speculation of a deist prime mover (there are of course, reasonable scientific hypothesis; such as the multiverse), there is no way you can get from that to theism - and certainly not the miracles of Christianity. Turek's argument here is just one long argument for deism based on his own incredulity of how complex systems can come about by perfectly naturalistic means ...notice, he never demonstrates how you get from a deistic god to a theistic one. This argument was thoroughly destroyed in his debates with Hitchens; yet, he's still peddling it.
@101TonyParker
10 жыл бұрын
"he only reason anti-intellectual Turek gets a stage now - is because he debated Hitchers" Is that your opinion or do you have facts to back that claim up? "there are of course, reasonable scientific hypothesis; such as the multiverse" First of all is there any evidence that there are multiverses? Second, one of the problems of multiverses and M-theory is that they are scientifically unverifiable, a fact that makes them rather useless as a scientific theory. Another problem is that they defy the principle of Occam’s razor: the simplest explanation is the most likely one to be true. Another problem is that a theory that predicts a probable infinite number of universes in an attempt to escape the necessity of God’s creating this one, has the following flaws: In an infinite number of universes there are an infinite number of possibilities; therefore, at least one universe must have been created by God - a being, whose attributes cannot be exceeded by any other being. Since a God that created all multiverses would be greater than a God that created only one, then God must have created all. God created our universe.
@Waltham1892
9 жыл бұрын
The most powerful being in the universe is evidenced using semantic tricks, jiggered evidence and tortured logic. I'd feel sorry for him, if he existed.
@Xendrius
8 жыл бұрын
+Waltham1892 Well, he made you, and your human anscestors, clearly smart enough.
@Waltham1892
8 жыл бұрын
Xendrius My mother and father made me. My grandparents made them. And the story goes back further and further in time; from human, to semi-human to non-human to inhuman. Complex chemical reactions arising from simple chemical reactions to the binding of compounds to the formation of atoms to the formation of electrons. And that is where out story ends, in the first hundred millionth of a second after the universe began. And, that is where your god is, in fact, where all the gods are now. Because there is no where else for them to be. The only place they have left is that millionth of a second we can't yet explain. And once we explain that infinitesimal fragment of a moment they will all be gone. Gods are the new endangered species. The new Carrier Pigeon. Good.
@Xendrius
8 жыл бұрын
+Waltham1892 Your brain is shit, "complex chemicals". Get real buddy. God made us all, and you are going to hell if you don't repent. I was a low iq atheist too 9 years ago.
@Waltham1892
8 жыл бұрын
Xendrius Am I going to your god's hell, or the Hindu hell, or the Norse Hell, or Shinto's Hell? Every one of you have a Hell and avoiding yours means ending up in everyone else's. Just as avoiding everyone else's end me up in yours. Is there any reason your tribal god is more real than anyone else's? Every religion has a book,tome or scroll. Every religion has its myths and saviors. Everyone is as valid as yours and some are far older. So, sorry, not buying new gods today.
@Flagrum3
8 жыл бұрын
+Waltham1892 -Can you show us where there is any evidence for your claim; And the story goes back further and further in time; from human, to semi-human to non-human to inhuman. Complex chemical reactions arising from simple chemical reactions to the binding of compounds to the formation of cells...Especially like to see the evidence for Complex chemical reactions creating information in the genome or a single cell. God is seen in everything, astrophysics, biology, physics etc.; ...Maybe you should spend some time reading. Furthermore; gods are the new endangered species? Yes I agree, but the mythical gods, not the one true GOD. There are other religions, yes, but none can be compared to the Catholic religion, as it is based on Historical facts and personages, not fictitious beings. Other gods were created by man and existed within nature, the God of Moses is outside nature and created nature.Your logic is flawed and obviously stems from ignorance as a whole.
@spikesmth
11 жыл бұрын
There is as much evidence for deism as there is for Christianity or Scientology, so your point is moot.
@alexscott730
5 жыл бұрын
From goo to you via the zoo🤣
@jeremykientz
6 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the part where Frank shows the evidence that god created everything. He’s shown he doesn’t understand what cosmology says which is “we don’t know, yet” which is a perfectly acceptable answer (which drives theists mad). So give cosmology the demonstrable and repeatable evidence that god created the world and collect your Nobel Prize. Go ahead Frank, I’m at the edge of my seat.
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
JT It doesn’t drive us mad. Because what we know so far is consistent with what we believe. We would like to know when you find a naturalistic explanation. That would be great. In 20 billion years?
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
@@kjustkses You're illustrating a perfect example of the God of the Gaps fallacy: wherein anything you think science can't explain somehow IS explained by God. Anything that science can't explain yet is simply _unexplained._ It is NOT evidence of any God. The gaps in our knowledge are not evidence of any God. Any time we ever blamed anything on the supernatural, it turned out to be wrong and the real explanation was always a revelation leading to whole new fields of study previously unimagined and far more complex than the mystical excuses we came up with in our ignorance.
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
Alec Eisenbeis And you show wishful thinking.
@Eisenbison
5 жыл бұрын
@@kjustkses Wishful thinking that science is going to be able to continue to explain things we currently don't understand in ways that we can't currently imagine? The way it has been doing for the last few thousand years? Especially in the last few hundred? That brings me to my favorite quote by Charles Darwin: "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. It is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." I sense that you're *hoping* that science never finds an explanation for the origin of the universe, because that's the very last gap your God can hide in. Once upon a time, our ancestors believed that thunder, lightning, and volcanoes were gods in action, that comets were an omen, that the stars and planets had human characteristics, that sickness was a curse of witchcraft, and that epilepsy was demonic possession-all because that’s what religion would have us believe. In each case, the real truth might never have been discovered had we been satisfied by those lies. And in each case, the reality was a revelation of whole new fields of study previously unimagined, and vastly more complex than the simple excuses we made up in our ignorance. No doubt that pattern will continue, such that if we ever do discover the cause of the Big Bang, or some better explanation for the origin of life, the universe, and everything, it too will be a wealth of new information with practical application, and so advanced that it will render our previous belief in gods, ghosts, and magic just as laughably silly as... every other field of study so far has already shown.
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
Alec Eisenbeis There are things which science cannot explain. For instance how could we scientifically prove that the cosmos is infinite in size or in the past?
@tonevogel
6 жыл бұрын
where are the bananas where where's ray comfort and his bananas bananas bananas
@spikesmth
11 жыл бұрын
It's a little funny, but mostly sad to watch a "theologian" try to describe science. So much wrong with his logic and interpretation of actual cosmology. I can admit that the Big Bang may need a cause, but to assign intelligence or agency to it is childish. You ought to be ashamed if you find this goober's "arguments" convincing.
@haroldcrenshaw5630
6 жыл бұрын
Word salad tasty
@MrNDMA1
10 жыл бұрын
This guy needs to learn how to think for himself! Puts way too much faith in the opinions of others!
@ltrodd
10 жыл бұрын
This guy has a doctorate.. So what exactly are your achievements in the realm of thought?
@norcofreerider604
9 жыл бұрын
Captain Haggis He has a doctorate in Christian Apologetics from a Christian school, which hardly counts as an actual degree. He's not qualified to comment on the big bang, namely "what banged it", as that is a question for physicists. He made several serious errors in his short video here, so I would say NDMA1's comment is a greater achievement in the realm of thought than the schmuck in the video.
@MrNDMA1
9 жыл бұрын
Captain Haggis I have two earned doctorates one professional and one Ph.D., Thanks for asking.
@MusingsOfAMoron
9 жыл бұрын
Like you in others. Why the dishonesty, for everything you believe was passed down to you by somebody's opinion. Why is it only THEIST who have to think for themselves, giving the impression that the ATHEIST do think for themselves? This is such a high level of dishonesty, to give an impression that your thoughts are yours. You read them FRIEND and concluded.
@MusingsOfAMoron
9 жыл бұрын
Unless of course you were born with possession of all knowledge.
@MrsZambezi
10 жыл бұрын
Where is ole Jesus hiding at the moment? Tell him to come out of the closet. Gays can even get married nowadays.
@thedogtutor4998
8 жыл бұрын
are you easterbunnyeist ? a toothfairyeist ? a santacluase eist ? pay attention, this is the 21 st century, we have science now
@yiqingwang1437
8 жыл бұрын
you are attacking a straw man... LOL PLEASE Read the Bible before you say anything about the creator God
@thedogtutor4998
8 жыл бұрын
+Yiqing Wang Do you mean the god that sent his own child to be tortured, mutilated and killed in public by the very people he "created" b/c he couldn't forgive a person for eating a piece of fruit ?
@yiqingwang1437
8 жыл бұрын
+k dog Do you understand that God is Love? Do you understand that God is just, mercy and faithful? Do you understand the because of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, we have to experience pain and suffering and death? please read the Bible instead if attacking straw men
@yiqingwang1437
8 жыл бұрын
+Yiqing Wang instead of... sorry typos
@thedogtutor4998
8 жыл бұрын
+Yiqing Wang duh, love is love Mercy ? are you saying this IS the god you picked ? The one that sent his own child to be mutilated b/c he didn't have a spec of mercy to forgive a person for eating fruit...the one that threatens people to believe or be tortured for eternity ? you're saying he makes all people suffer b/c 1 ate fruit ? Could you not find a kinder god to believe in, there are thousands. i am not attacking, I'm just trying to figure out which god you have picked by referring to the book you called the bible and repeating it back to you. Please step into the 21st century
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