I’ve never had an issue with deer eating Brassicas before a frost. East TN
@michaelgangadeen8013
2 жыл бұрын
The discussion on creating new successional growth in old pasture was very insightful. I tried this on a new property where I sprayed generic roundup on fescue. Instead of new successional growth, in short order my fields were taken over by switchgrass which I initally believed was a good thing until listening to Dr. Harper as deer do not eat switch. I assume you would suggest waiting for the switch to get out of the winter domancy stage and spray the fields again to kill it?
@markalleman4520
2 жыл бұрын
Now I’m curious who started the myth at the hunting show!😂
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it lol
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
I (Jeremy) knows! Lol
@markalleman4520
2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking it’s Dr. Kroll. He does believe that Brassicas are toxic to deer.🤪
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s just say they been Growing Deer on them for a while now
@markalleman4520
2 жыл бұрын
Ah ha!
@thetrooper1061
2 жыл бұрын
Im not a Dr. but it's pretty common knowledge in the world of vegtable gardening that certain vegetables like kale, turnips, collards broccoli, (brassica) improve flavor with colder weather and frosts. This study only requires a fork lol. Now whether that has anything to do with sugar I dont know. Off topic but it would be nice to have some of these studies conducted in the midwest. Most of the "data" you read about is on massive southern national forest land. Seems mostly irrelevant to the corn belt. I for one of many see a massive increase in deer feeding on brassica once it gets cold
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting take on the food aspect, but you are correct. Completely agree on Midwest research. Different climate and soil fertility
@bucksniper65
2 жыл бұрын
Peter would they be eating on the Brassica at that time because they tasted better to the deer or because the Brassica was the best green vegetation around after it got that cold?
@thetrooper1061
2 жыл бұрын
@@bucksniper65 I think it could depend on availability, but this year I have 3 acres of brassica but also have 5 acres of clover and 1 acre of winter wheat along with corn and they really only hit the brassicas hard once the temps dipped. The wheat and clover are still fully lush so they do have plenty of options.
@thistledewoutdoors3331
2 жыл бұрын
Deer here in Northern Wisconsin definitely start smashing pumpkins & the like,, after the 1st frost after Halloween..... They turn into soft edible treasures !!!
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
So maybe it’s more of a texture thing but surely not a sugar content factor
@anitahickey1040
2 жыл бұрын
How's about John Eberhardt ? That would be ah cool interview
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
John is a great idea, I’ll try and reach out
@hartpeakoutdoors833
2 жыл бұрын
The study only showed that the starches didn't turn to sugars, correct? That doesn't mean those plants aren't more palatable after a frost. Here's my wild speculation: When the leaves freeze lots of cells burst causing the plant to taste better due to texture. And the reason you don't want to hunt those deer before then is because the big one you're chasing (if he's using that food source) is sitting back waiting for dark and watching those deer. He does that 35 days in a row without hunter intrusion, he might just step out before flat dark once that food source is extra "tasty". But that's MS pressured deer.. Anyway, great job with the podcast and congrats on the bucks, keep it going.
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
Yes very much at the sugar content. That said palatability is a tough measure unless you’re talking acorn tannins or fibrous materials in plants. Not saying you don’t have some good theories here, and from a human consumption standpoint most enjoy plants like broccoli or greens post freeze
@hartpeakoutdoors833
2 жыл бұрын
@@HUNTRPOD Ya. Completely uneducated late night guess. Also, if your belief in the magic frost sugars results in you hunting unpressured deer for a bit after the first frost, there's no harm in it.. I believed in it until the Dr. Harper show, and it resulted in the only mature buck I've filmed so far!
@munneysreviews
2 жыл бұрын
Message aside. His condescending tone is majorly off putting
@HUNTRPOD
2 жыл бұрын
Craig is one of the most well respected minds in deer and habitat management. What you may feel like is condescending, is likely the tone of a guy who week in and out has to counter false information being forced into the hunting community via so called “experts” who have zero education in the space
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