It is so tiring to listen to people of no reason, but religion. Funny how they make attempts to talk science by using terms they do not understand and say there are holes in the theories. But they say nothing except things like "Oh, that's the Old Testament" "we don't believe that anymore" or "Jesus and the New Testament are the way", Funny how these same people who live in a world of holes then say things like to believe in science, you must have faith. In fact, they are trying to discredit science by saying that it is incomplete. Well, thanks to Religions, science is incomplete. It has taken thousands of years for science to be able to practice freely without the scientists being burned at the stake, boiled alive or put on a stretcher as Religions have made every attempt to keep us all from eating from the Tree of Knowledge that their very same books tells us not to eat from, because then we will not be so ignorant to follow the god ideals.
@rungavagairun
10 жыл бұрын
Krauss isn't my favorite atheist debater, but he rocks this interview.
@rungavagairun
10 жыл бұрын
Carlos Long I guess it depends on the nature of the debate. Krause is a scientist. Nye is a science communicator, not a scientist himself.
@Slackbunny
9 жыл бұрын
rungavagairun He's an engineer, so he has a solid scientific education. I would argue that engineers are scientists in the same way that chemists, geologists, biologists, and physicists are scientists. The word scientist is a very general term describing a great number of fields. I would argue that engineering or at least certain branches of engineering would definitely fall into the category of science.
@rungavagairun
9 жыл бұрын
Engineers need an understanding of sciences in an applied sense, similar to practicing doctors. As a rule, they are not doing experiments to contribute to broaden general knowledge and overarching principles of one or more of the scientific fields/disciplines. There is likely some overlap as well. Just like some medical doctors are involved in research (they would be legitimate scientists in medicine), there are likely engineers who do research in the way I mentioned earlier. If the primary focus of the engineer is to develop a specific design for a commercial application and they are merely applying accepted scientific knowledge, they would not qualify as a scientist.
@Slackbunny
9 жыл бұрын
You are just wrong. But before I explain why, I should note that I am talking about engineers with a minimum of a BScE degree (Bachelor of Science in Engineering Degree), and more likely a Masters Degree. There are many trade professions that use the title of engineer such as power engineers, but they are technicians with tech school certifications or diplomas. I would not argue that they are scientists. I might also cede that engineers who have only a bachelors degree most times wouldn't be considered scientists, although I would argue that would depend on the specific nature of their job. Many engineers with bachelors degrees get into project management or manufacturing jobs which doesn't really make them scientists. But any engineer involved in research or whose job requires extensive knowledge of any of the scientific disciplines would be a scientist. Also an engineer with a Masters degree or PHD is most definitely a scientist in the truest sense of the word. Engineers specialize in the application of physics, chemistry, astrophysics, and quantum mechanics, not to mention many other scientific disciplines like geology, meteorology, and material science. Engineers involvement in cosmology and biology are admittedly less. Although bio-medical engineers likely have a significant background in biology. In order to apply the principles of those disciplines an engineer needs to have a comprehensive knowledge of those fields. Do you think chemical engineers are not versed in chemistry? Do you think Nasa's engineers are not versed in astrophysics? Do you think that the engineers who built the large hadron collider are not versed in quantum mechanics? Engineers are just scientist who specialize more the practical application of existing scientific theory, and less in the generation of new scientific theory.
@rungavagairun
9 жыл бұрын
Is a practicing doctor a scientist?
@mejerome19
9 жыл бұрын
Total waste of Dr Krauss's time.
@bigcanucker6856
10 жыл бұрын
Krauss, absolutely smashes this guy. It's hilarious listening to a creationist throw bad science at one of the world's most preeminent scientists.
@madtenors
10 жыл бұрын
I signed a napkin that said we live in the matrix. Checkmate.
@Jeremyramone
11 жыл бұрын
thanks very much for sharing these videos, really appreciate it, cheers
@DocZom
10 жыл бұрын
I hope Dr. Krauss was paid well to put up with the sheer volume of inanities from this radio host.
@dm1121ww
11 жыл бұрын
This is a perfect example of the old saying, "A little bit of knowledge is dangerous."
@andypdq
11 жыл бұрын
“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.” ― Charles Darwin
@GuyRegular
8 жыл бұрын
Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine
@doncourtreporter
9 жыл бұрын
Blind faith invites insanity.
@rumbletruckin6409
11 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload bro, boiled my blood, never heard Lawrence Krauss before but I like to hear him yell at this fool!
@hrmIwonder
11 жыл бұрын
The more I hear Dr. Krauss speak, the more I respect him.
@JustMarioBros
11 жыл бұрын
I love that Krauss doesn't stop regardless of how many times the host tries to cut him off. These people need to have truth shoved into their heads whether they want to hear it or not.
@petercraig3745
11 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious how Krauss can say "No, I predicted that. You can't blame a dead guy. I did that."
@atonesb5251
10 жыл бұрын
It would've been nice for Lawrence to have remained a little calmer, although I understand his frustration. This host was... something.
@mitchrowe8441
11 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian, I study evolutionary biology at my university and I LOVE the way Lawrence defends science.
@244Ohiro
11 жыл бұрын
Perfect description!
@Bogusgal
11 жыл бұрын
:) Thanks for the encouragement.
@michaeleverest2219
2 жыл бұрын
I love that line of Krauss near the end where he says I'm off to do real science! Just like a adult playing with his kid who then says "now son go and play on your own as Daddy nerds to go back to work and do the grown up stuff!" Classic line that sums up creationists! They can act like kids and enjoy their myths and fables..whilst grown up scientists gets on with doing the adult work of understanding how the world really works!
@TheFifthGreatApe
11 жыл бұрын
"I don't anything until I investigate it, that is why I'm a scientist. You know everything before you investigate it, that is why you're a creationist." -Lawrence Krauss \
@somethingtojenga
10 жыл бұрын
Here's a poll for this poll-riding pastor: count the number of atheist and/or science videos on KZitem which allow comments, and count the number of religious ones which don't. Debating these high issues of existence and reality is FAR, FAR above religion. You don't have to debate religion at all--just go to a religion video and witness how they refuse you to comment on them. Or how about go to church? When was the last time you went to church and asked a question during the ceremony, or even made an observation? lol Of course, it's not like they don't have a million tricks up their sleeve now, the new fundamentalists do, for weak-minded people to buy into.
@Jimmison007
10 жыл бұрын
Lol so true, they also give the callers a scratchy signal and turn down their volume when they are getting pwned. Check out around 7.30-7.40. The interviewer turns Lawrence's volume down
@chaz9808
10 жыл бұрын
lol if your going to try and discredit or disprove Krauss you should def not go about it using physics not many know more about that than him.
@dolganthecute
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed. On further reflection I doubt I could be as calm and my brain would probably shut down because of all the anger.
@GrigoriSom
11 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I'm never blown away by it... I've just come to expect it.
@santaclausinyellow
10 жыл бұрын
i have been driving cars for over 20 years 6 days a week , so hand me a toolbox, i will fix the engine
@coolgreyoneabby
11 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Kraus to Nutty creationists interviewer: "Everything you said is wrong" That is the understatement of the day.
@misium
11 жыл бұрын
For the record, it was "baryon-photon" ratio. Baryons are things made of three quarks such as the neutrons and protons.
@thatdreadedacademic
11 жыл бұрын
Very true, and it's not even a small threat. I myself bought into that line of reasoning relatively recently. It's extraordinarily pervasive. Damn, I'm glad that I got better.
@gigisdad
11 жыл бұрын
Krauss's frustration is the same kind that adults feel when they're trying to explain over and over again to a 5 year old that there aren't any monsters under the bed.
@delataylor
11 жыл бұрын
7:00 - 8:13 Standing ovation.
@thatdreadedacademic
11 жыл бұрын
Can someone please correct me if I am wrong? I swear I just heard this host criticize Dr Krauss for talking about applied science and than make an explicit appeal to applied science.
@LogicSpeaks
11 жыл бұрын
lol... I'm surprised Lawrence stayed on so long. I'm glad he didn't hang up so we could all listen to the frustration. I've had these kinds of arguments (though I'm no scientist).
@markviman
11 жыл бұрын
"No, so far everything you've said is wrong." lol
@namnack
10 жыл бұрын
I imagine these people living in caves only to come out once a week to host these shows and troll the web for a few hours and then watch in awe as the Lord pulls back the sun to the invisible side of the dome past the edge of the earth.
@TheEnviious
11 жыл бұрын
"I really appreciate it" - Got his sounds bite.
@Lingerminator
11 жыл бұрын
That was the biggest laugh I've had since Prof.Dawkins on QandA Australia. Nice Dr.Krauss, nice.
@atheistram
11 жыл бұрын
Krauss was addressing the interviewers science gaffs one at a time without letting the interviewer move on when he was proven wrong.
@makexxwar
11 жыл бұрын
I would like to meet Laurence one day so I could ask him some stupid questions. For instance, I'd like to know if its possible for one end of a wormhole to connect directly to a black hole, thereby allowing some information contained within to escape.
@ryankramer
11 жыл бұрын
More likely the station has what's called a compressor set up for any time the DJ talks vs whatever other audio is feeding through the line. (The local NPR station has one like this so if music is playing in the background and the DJ/Announcer starts talking the music drops back automatically so you can hear him better.) But the end result is as you say it is. It gives the DJ the appearance of sound more authoritative so the person calling on the phone always has the uphill battle.
@MrRp25
10 жыл бұрын
Hoop on over to the,"Real" science radio web-site and read their interpretation of this discussion.
@euroszkeptikus
11 жыл бұрын
Interviewer: "I cant speak to what you've just said" Krauss: "Of course, you can't." 4:50
@thybigballs
11 жыл бұрын
You can remove it by clicking on the little circle to the right of your post and then clicking "remove".
@pezzamange
9 жыл бұрын
Religion: Draw your conclusions then go out and find evidence to back it up. Science: Find evidence and then draw your conclusions based on what you find.
@Geobacter
11 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, listening to this host was an excruciating experience.
@jmitterii2
10 жыл бұрын
4:00 to 5:16 is was very well explained.
@DRosenman87
11 жыл бұрын
its a shame that there isn't. It sucks that Ernst Mayr wasn't eligible to receive a nobel prize.
@default5884
11 жыл бұрын
"Fudging data is his bread and butter." Fucking brilliant. Thanks for that.
@blanktester
11 жыл бұрын
Krauss is getting so mad... I just want to hug him and tell him that his words and the message of truth he promotes make a lot of people, including myself, proud to be alive.
@Urudrim
11 жыл бұрын
creationist: "did you know there are 400 scientists who said there is a problem with evolution?" rational person: "did you know 400 scientists are about 0.0007% of the scientist population?"
@respectda22
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, and would you mind explaining how that is in any way at all relevant to whether evolution is true or not?
@N0B0DY_SP3C14L
11 жыл бұрын
And he can't stop interrupting Dr. Krauss, repeatedly.
@Osakadows
10 жыл бұрын
Seen plenty of people trying to compete for that status.
@JUSTHELLBENT
11 жыл бұрын
This is eerily similar to non stamp collector's satirical video 'special investigation - evolution'.
@thegrooviestthing
11 жыл бұрын
Man, poor Lawrence! He has amazing patience, and I admit he almost lost it but I probably wouldn't have been able to form coherent sentences anymore if I'd been in his place.
@Ancor3
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, and this is why I think it's time for some basic philosophy classes in high school to stop the confusion. People need to know the difference between strong and weak atheism (and much more ofcourse). Maybe introduce it in history classes since it was integral in shaping humanity today.
@Pianoscript
10 жыл бұрын
The probability for the existence of God is inversely proportional to the volume of the known universe.
@Sir_Squegg
11 жыл бұрын
I imagine the picture is the same face that Lawrence is pulling on the other side of the phone lol, that just made me rofl! He loves it though, go on Lawrence someone's got to do it. I am glad its you! Your passion in the face of ignorance is something to be admired!
@aluminumzirconium
10 жыл бұрын
how does any of what the host says relate to the biblical account or any other religious accounts of creation
@BullInTheHeather1
11 жыл бұрын
I agree. My point is also that there's an asymmetry in any debate between a creationist and a scientist which is down to the fact that scientists spend their professional careers being scrupulously honest with themselves, hedging their bets and being exquisitely careful not to say anything that might make them look silly, whilst creationists spend their professional careers lying to people. In any unregulated public exchange this immediately handicaps the scientist and empowers the creationist.
@ricciopaul
11 жыл бұрын
"Well you can go out and measure it and tell me it isn't true" Ha!
@spacepixies
9 жыл бұрын
loving the comments :D
@simonwilder1994
11 жыл бұрын
This is such a perfect metaphor. The creationists can sometimes be so frustrating (as evident here) because they love to jump from argument to argument to argument as each of them get shot down. Unfortunately for most of us, we're NOT experts in everything, and the very second they get a pause from us, they declare VICTORY! It's nice to see Krauss shoot down Every. Single. One. of them. Nice indeed.
@petros_adamopoulos
10 жыл бұрын
Count all the instances where he's interrupted mid sentence with "And how about x" aka the goal post moving technique. Anybody normal would get aggressive very quickly. That said, being right feels better than being listened to.
@cjmoye
11 жыл бұрын
|Fudging data is his bread and butter.| Truer words are rarely spoken.
@OlsonBrownianMotion
11 жыл бұрын
exactly, well said
@AbdultheImpailler
11 жыл бұрын
@ 4:15 this guy is quoting from a magazine article from 22 years ago, doesn't he think maybe the studies may have been falsified or amended since then?
@binkey3374
10 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how your statement relates to the quote you give. The quote addresses ideas about the origin of life (for which there is not yet an established scientific theory). Your follow up statement is about the theory of evolution which explains the diversity of life, but has nothing to do with how it all got started. Can you elaborate?
@2535Win
11 жыл бұрын
I don't know how Krauss managed to stay on the phone all that time.
@nash984954
11 жыл бұрын
I can't either, but I clicked on the kgov link to the full debate, and though you can download the conversation, it got worse for me as someone has an article there about how much Krauss wasn't aware of, didn';t know, and all sorts of creationist bunk and to say the least I was infuriated, as I felt set up to be swayed beforehand hearing the recording, which I think was the point, as many may not even listen, but accept the bogus article message instead.
@respectda22
11 жыл бұрын
"We mentioned 100 inventions on this show, and none of them required Darwinism to be true." Can somebody please bring me an ice pack? I think I just broke my nose facepalming.
@Galakyllz
11 жыл бұрын
"Do you know that you don't need a god for our origins?" "Absolutely not." *Mr. Burns' evil fingers* Excellent.
@michaellv426
11 жыл бұрын
2:28 Gravity is a "rescue device" to avoid the problem of unexplained fact that things fall down.
@jamesjeffreypaul
11 жыл бұрын
I meant to type insufferable but accidentally posted the sentence prematurely.
@abuliberalee
11 жыл бұрын
Host: "The New Testament says Christianity can be falsified." Krauss: "Yeah, we have in many cases." Lol.
@FormerRuling
10 жыл бұрын
How so? Evolution is defined as "Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species." Is my layman's terms post inconsistent somehow with this?
@Bogusgal
11 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I was a Christian all my life until about February 6th, 2013 where I sayed goodbye to my only father, the heavenly one, the only one I THOUGHT I had, as I did not have a father. I am really sorry for this disrespectful pastor, accusing Lawrence Krauss for lying and twisting his own research! I am deeply sorry.... I look back & remember arguing with my Science teachers, waving my Bible in class. I'm sorry! The same commitment I gave to my faith, I now give to science!
@EricEstesEleutherian
10 жыл бұрын
Its like this guy hears something that he thinks doesn't flow with current scientific thought and then goes, "God." What kind of fucked up logic is that? It isn't always fun but getting a wrong answer in science is exciting. It means there is an opportunity to gain new knowledge and understand things better. What a wonderful concept.
@pdoylemi
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, dealing with honest, intelligent people most of the time leaves one poorly prepared for debating a YEC.
@rikki-reneebarnaby1117
11 жыл бұрын
"Dr. Krauss! ... excuse me... Dr. Krauss... Dr. Krauss! ... You're not allowing me refute your empirical evidence with my feelings! Dr. Krauss!..."
@chicagonative17
11 жыл бұрын
I've never heard Lawrence so frustrated... I imagined the interviewer as Ben Stein: Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence.
@xGeneralShrikex
10 жыл бұрын
If you spend you life working on something and working with others that are or have been just as dedicated. I would also be agitated, as Krauss was, when someone KNOWs that all my work and the work of my friends is completely wrong because of their delusion.
@JustOneEarth
11 жыл бұрын
If challenged in such a way, my response is usually that I try to withhold belief in things for which I do not have enough evidence, because I care about what's true and I'd rather believe in as few false things as possible. This is NOT a claim that deities do not exist. Explain that to them. Do not shy away from a term because it is misunderstood; you fight misunderstanding by using it correctly. Language evolves and the meaning of "atheist" will change if you stop using it correctly.
@ddalrymple1
11 жыл бұрын
Wow... That was Brutal. Dr. Krauss you deserve a scotch and a cigar sir.
@oliwa09
11 жыл бұрын
The problem with arguments between creationists and sciencists, is neither will ever convince the other of anything. It's all about what they value in an argument. Scientists value evidence, logic and reason to sway them. Creationists value authority. So, even though they can both be seemingly intellegent individuals, when one presents a reasonable, testable, logical answer and the other says "I don't believe you because someone told me something different", there is no chance of settlement
@rikki-reneebarnaby1117
11 жыл бұрын
"My claims of brand new science and quote mines from scientists speaking about different topics, trumps your life's work Krauss!"
@punnet2
11 жыл бұрын
The creationist knows his job well...promptly changing the subject each time he's up on the ropes.
@ManikSethisuwan
9 жыл бұрын
People like these are scary. This radio interviewer that is.
@physicsrunsourworld7247
9 жыл бұрын
I'd say both. The radio host because of his stupidity. Krauss because of knowledge. Being too smart is just as scary...but in a good way :P
@cutes22
11 жыл бұрын
That was extremely painful. If I was in the same room with that guy, I'd just have to clock him.
@dietcoke05
11 жыл бұрын
He said do science! Ahhh, I love Krauss!
@PoetlaureateNFDL
11 жыл бұрын
This is good.
@baxtar1963
11 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is this radio talk show host?
@pbmdh
11 жыл бұрын
And how is it you know that something cannot come from nothing, exactly?
@uChakide
11 жыл бұрын
Why appeal to authority of medical doctors in a debate about science, specifically astronomy and physics?
@mbarbarelli
11 жыл бұрын
"Lawrence... Lawrence... Lawrence..."
@hiten369
11 жыл бұрын
This creationist is getting his but kicked by a real scientist! I am loving this.
@marshallbrooks1
11 жыл бұрын
well said
@uncleanunicorn
10 жыл бұрын
I see why he's such good friends with Dawkins.
@AndyX
11 жыл бұрын
where's your nobel prize ?
@FirstZenGate
11 жыл бұрын
Was it just me or did it sound like there was some radio producer turning down Krauss's volume when he's kicking the host's ass? Either way it was really annoying.
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