25 years ago at age 55 I had back to back severe heart attack soon diagnosed with heart failure and given less than two years to live I went plant base diet now I am looking forward to celebrating my 80 birthday soon.
@thomashugus5686
6 ай бұрын
I just had an unexpected MI 3 months ago! Switched to plant based so wish me luck! Hope to do as well as you sir!
@bahramabdolkarimi
6 ай бұрын
@@thomashugus5686Congratulations for adopting plants based diet and please don’t forget eat only complex carbohydrates and try to do intermediate fasting 16/8
@EbonyPope
5 ай бұрын
Plant based diets aren't the only diets to reduce the risk. Especially the mediterranian diet has shown huge advantages too. According to the newer adventist study vegans do not really fare any better than meat eaters. What is important with any diet is the quality of foods and amount of calories. Apart from that it is up to you to choose. I just don't think that there is a one size fits all diet.
@emesor78
5 ай бұрын
How you know is the pbd ? I'm sure you cut ultra processed foods , mabe cut alcohol, or smoking or you started exercising. Or lost weight.
@StarOnTheWater
5 ай бұрын
So happy for you! That's awesome! Sometimes we need to really be confronted to make a change.
@DasaadMulijono
Жыл бұрын
I am an Interventional Cardiologist. I have observed so many of my patients who strictly follow plant based diets regressed their plaques on their follow up CT scan and Coronary Angiography. Well less moneys for an Interventional Cardiologist but good for them. Therefore so many cardiologists are reluctant to advice such diets which not only decrease the plaques but also doctors income. LOL.
@Primal391
Жыл бұрын
So you got unhealthy people that don’t exercise on a better diet and they improved? Not sure your point. Are you also saying that if they went on a Mediterranean diet or any other diet they would have died?
@fleedermouse
Жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear. I’m always hopeful that things like this can be the case so it’s nice to hear some witnesses cases by an expert.
@safenders
Жыл бұрын
I specifically went to see a cardiologist to discuss this possibility and he just about said it was impossible and ran me out the door. On my way out he was very busy flirting with his coworkers.
@himpoet
Жыл бұрын
Still just anecdotal, an argument this very video argues against. Note that I’m not saying this out of a bias towards meat at all, my diet is to a very large extent plant-based.
@nusaibahibraheem8183
Жыл бұрын
@@himpoet A doctor however can keep advising his patients on what he sees results from. In the future research can be done on their findings.
@slaffkas
Жыл бұрын
I can tell you one thing... I am over 50, plant based for 6 years after my heart surgery, and my cardiologist loves it. Prediabetis is gone, blood work is excellent. That is all I need. I am physically active as well.
@jtell723
Жыл бұрын
The key question here. Did you lose weight? If so, how much?? I’m wondering if any diet that can get you to lose considerable weight would get you similar results.
@spiral-m
Жыл бұрын
@@jtell723 cocaine use? Weight loss isn't everything by any means. Long-term effects are often ignored.
@AmorXcatalunya7
Жыл бұрын
@@jtell723 no they wont, weight isnt always the main problem, you can lose weight by many ways and diferents strategies, but if you do it the right way, eating healthy, fiber, vegetables etc.. it will be perfect for blood and cardiovascular health
@diytwoincollege7079
Жыл бұрын
Vegetarian for over a year. Lost 50 lbs, blood #’s are all good. Went from A1C 12 to 5.5 in a matter of months. Cholesterol went to 150. Been tracking nutritional info, and it looks like I’m getting what I need. Dr Greger’s advice works. You have to eat the right foods and exercise regularly to a good sweat.
@TimWilson1
Жыл бұрын
With ya! My cardiologist has the same response to my whole food vegan diet (with B supplementation).
@pravoslavn
11 ай бұрын
MY STORY: Twenty-five years I was on crutches due to crippling gout and my physician had me on kidney-destroying Alopurinol. The Internet had just come around and we were becoming able to educate ourselves beyond just what our physicians told us. I "went vegan" and started using Turmeric daily (slightly cooked in olive oil + a little black pepper.) In six weeks, I was off the Alopurinol, lost a bunch of weight, my BP and cholesterol numbers went down, and now, at age 78, I am healthy as a horse and have no more inflamatory symptoms or pathologies of any kind. My Doctor was scandalized that I had thrown away his medicine, but later, when his own mother was laid low with arthritis, he asked me to write for her an essay on how I had treated myself with Vegan diet + Turmeric. HA! You folks eat all the meat you want, but I prefer to be healthy !
@veganaporlavida
11 ай бұрын
Well done, that's how you do it! They will surely keep insisting on maintaining their meat habits, as we know it's addictive as hell, and they'll do whatever it takes to defend it. But those of us who have been plant based for decades, and maintain our top health until our late years, without a single complaint, know what really is good for us. Let them defend meat, one day they will realise they were wrong.
@jamesclifford5496
10 ай бұрын
Except in your case, you're suffering from kidney disease. One of the roles of the kidneys is to deal with the waste products of protein metabolism. That's nutrition 101. And that's the same reason we have a "CKD diet" which is low protein for patients like yourself. So perhaps the thing that really helped you was low-protein, not veganism. The fact your Dr didn't know this or challenge this about your recovery is shocking!
@nitishkumarjurel241
8 ай бұрын
Anecdotes don't count as evidence.
@jibjubby
8 ай бұрын
@@jamesclifford5496 Careful, he said he has gout, not kidney disease.
@evolopterus
8 ай бұрын
Awesome… just so you know, turmeric is often found contaminated with lead and dangerous additives to enhance its color (you will not find them in the ingredients list)
@cathypaulino2153
7 ай бұрын
I will stick with Dr. Greger. And Dr. William Li. And Dr Will Bulsiewicz. And Dan Buettner. And…. my own personal experience, Vegetarian since 1977, upgraded to Vegan 9 years ago and my only regret is that I wasn’t vegan from birth.
@anabolicamaranth7140
Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s the decrease in vinyl record sales that have caused the increase in diabetes.
@NutritionMadeSimple
Жыл бұрын
genius :)
@myggggeneration
Жыл бұрын
A.A. --- true, because people danced/moved a lot to music on vinyl!! (Fact)
@asarcadyn2414
Жыл бұрын
Nah mate. It's the increase in taking showers.
@michaelashley2855
Жыл бұрын
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
@Soul_Younes
Жыл бұрын
What a load of crap... The increase in diabetes is caused by the increase of streaming platform users. Vinyl is just an external non causal factor.
@skippy6462
Жыл бұрын
Myself and my husband's h health improved following Dr. Greger's DAILY DOZEN. Best book on nutrition is How Not To Die.
@RodKruz
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Greger "said there's one diet ever proven to reverse the progression of heart-disease", he didn't mention it was the only thing you have to do. He actually talks a lot about not smoking and exercising in his website.
@slaffkas
6 ай бұрын
..while conducting Q&A sessions from the comfort of his treadmill.
@RodKruz
6 ай бұрын
@@slaffkas that's a good thing, actually. But I don't know what you meant by that.
@slaffkas
6 ай бұрын
@@RodKruz it was my reaction to the video. Being a vegan is not that bad as they say.
@SonoftheWest316
6 ай бұрын
drinking soda and consuming reefined carbs every day is far worse than smoking cigarettes.
@RodKruz
6 ай бұрын
@@slaffkas not bad at all. Veganism has been defamed in recent years because it has affected the interests of industries that profit from the suffering of those who have no rights.
@justinbosley692
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Dr. Greger on your show to hear his side of the story.
@NutritionMadeSimple
Жыл бұрын
we reached out. Dr. Greger has thus far declined. which is his prerogative and should be respected. maybe it'll change some day
@leeduli
Жыл бұрын
@@NutritionMadeSimple Interesting he would agree to a 7 minute TV interview where the opponent is incredibly dishonest and is basically a shill for the meat industry, but not agree to talk with the great Gil Carvalho!
@andyd.3701
Жыл бұрын
It saddens me, but after years of watching Dr. Gregers' clips, I have come to think that it seems more important for him to push veganism than to open-mindedly stick to data. Watching him in this 7min discussion was again a huge disappointment.
@lpg12338
Жыл бұрын
@@andyd.3701 Agree on both fronts. 😔
@alwirth7650
7 ай бұрын
People are different genetically. I found out I had a 95 % blockage in my left main artery at 36. Had a triple bypass . I was a big meat eater but change to plant base whole food diet with regular exercise and stress reduction.I am 70 year old with good metabolic numbers and see my PCP and Cardiologist semi-annually. Dean Ornish's research enlighten me and Michael Greger reinforced a healthy life style for me. My family historically were big meat eaters and all died of heart disease some sooner than others.
@kathleenkulp240
Жыл бұрын
You are, without a doubt, the voice of reason in the storms of diet controversy. Thank you for always providing thoughtful and well-researched analysis of these two viewpoints!
@metalrunner4398
Жыл бұрын
Amen
@ceolbeats7182
Жыл бұрын
Just his opinion Greger is science based & trials carried out
@Freeduradura
Жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏 this people can trick regular people so it is good someone to debate them
@htttppppp
7 ай бұрын
As I see it, there is no controversy. They are trying to make money and they all go to each others podcasts and it is all for marketing purposes. No one cares about the truth obviously.
@alexpfleger5539
5 ай бұрын
Agreed 💯
@jhunt5578
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you scrutinising Vegan doctors. I'm a Vegan myself, have been for 5 years. It's good to hear a balanced perspective.
@Dan16673
Жыл бұрын
Gotta check everyone buy imo plant based is the way
@Scottlp2
Жыл бұрын
@@Dan16673 I’d love to see trial: 1. Gregor’s plant based diet vs 2. Same diet minus grains, lots of avocados nuts, seeds.
@Dan16673
Жыл бұрын
@@Scottlp2 yeah that would be interesting
@K4113B4113
Жыл бұрын
You're a rare human being. Wish this could be the norm. Have a good day!
@ASOT666
Жыл бұрын
Yes! As a vegan I am only in it for the animals, and have seen enough pseudoscientific claims in the community that I became dubious of the health claims a lot of the doctors/influencers have made and I previously took for granted. It is always good to be sceptical - of anything. Unfortunately I am a statistician by training and know nothing about nutrition - but I am educating myself on that. In the meantime, it's great to have credibility within the community checked. This is healthy and shows the community isn't some weird cult/hive-mind, and also allows us to get a closer understanding of the truth. I really love seeing the growth GIl's channel has had in the past year. Shows that there is interest in being scientifically sound when making claims.
@systemsoversymptomsvisionw9806
7 ай бұрын
Great video, and I agree. My anecdote: At age 41 I had a heart attack. In the hospital, I was then also diagnosed with diabetes with an A1C of 7.2. My triglycerides were 13. My total cholesterol was 212.7mg/DL and my LDL was 243.6mg/dL. I resisted ALL the medications prescribed for me and went on a whole-foods plant-based diet with nearly zero oils. I cured my diabetes in weeks. My LDL cholesterol went down to 104.4mg/dL (a drop of nearly 140 points!!!). After those results, I continued to lose weight until I tapered off at a BMI of 21.3. I have kept all of that weight off for over 2.5 years now, without even trying. I love my body now. I look and feel great. My gout disappeared. My sleep apnea disappeared. My diabetes has never returned. My chronic heartburn disappeared. My average blood pressure is 115/75 despite having a high-stress job that does crank that up during periods of high stress. Often, I test at 110/70. My mood has been much more stable. I've been happy for the first time in a many years. I did great on all my stress tests. I remain on NO medications at all. I ran a marathon and my cardio level is very good without trying much. It's been an amazing journey. The reason some people on this diet can seem pushy at times is that they get passionate about spreading the news! Eventually, after 2 years of just this diet, and walking a lot, I started lifting weights. I don't feel sore after a workout, or the next day, or the day after that. It's pretty wild, because in the old days while eating meat I would be very sore after intense workouts. I have hit my maximum bicep curl weight, for example, and have had no trouble building this muscle mass, and never feel sore. ... Anyway, this video is great and I agree with the points made, but sometimes you have to go with what appears the most sensible on a balance of evidence. In my opinion, that's a diet primarily based on whole plant foods. Add a LITTLE animal protein? Maybe... but then you also have to consider things like the bacteria that raw chicken brings into your house, etc. I don't think you need meat or fish for any reason.... I choose to stick to a WFPB diet, but will keep tabs as science develops, always being wary of who FUNDED the studies as well...
@felixbonneau1834
6 ай бұрын
It's called losing weight
@goku445
3 ай бұрын
@@felixbonneau1834 you can lose weight eating junk food ya know. you won't be healthy.
@leeduli
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Greger's daily dozen has been instrumental in me staying healthy and getting the nutrients I need as a vegan. Thank you for fact checking him and keeping us all informed; I've always had the feeling he was motivated. Your videos are the best I've seen on youtube for fact-based and balanced nutrition information.
@harbingerbk1
Жыл бұрын
I'd say Plant Chompers and this channel are the top 2 💯
@leeduli
Жыл бұрын
@@harbingerbk1 Agreed! Plant Chompers self describes himself as a "vegan" and always uses terms like "plant forward diet" and has admitted fish are health promoting. the ethical and environmental reasons to avoid fish are paramount as Gil mentioned at the end of this video. We are only lying to people if we say consuming fish is unhealthy.
@MetallicAddict15
Жыл бұрын
@@harbingerbk1 You speak facts, my friend.
@lenguyenngoc479
Жыл бұрын
Chris prepresents the science in a funny and easy to understand way. He also has contacts with scientists who knew the behind the scene works and told the tale.
@maimai-bd2iw
Жыл бұрын
@@harbingerbk1 I didn't know about this channel before, the videos are fun and educational, thank you a lot!
@brentsweitzer
Жыл бұрын
It's true that Dr. Greger can exaggerate in some of his claims. But I suspect he's motivated to do so by the massive multi-billion dollar animal and processed food industry he's up against. He's a physician who took the hippocratic oath and he sees how much industry influence (big food, big pharma, supplements, etc) has corrupted research and the common sense application of healthy lifestyle emphasis in doctor/patient relationships. I had a heart attack nearly 6 years ago and neither the cardiologist nor any of the support professionals even mentioned (much less emphasized) the role of a mostly plant-based diet could have in preventing heart disease. Eating alot of animal products and very little fiber is the status quo in America. Dr. Greger's evangelistic 'house on fire' approach does ruffle some feathers, but it also gets people attention and also highlights the money that plays a huge role in American nutritional guidance. His approach got my attention and I feel confident the diet changes I've made because of his 'extreme' approach will add years to my life.
@sirgaymeerkat1994
Жыл бұрын
Dr Gregor grandmother reversed her heart disease after she was sent home to die at the age of 65 and she died age 95 after changing her diet and going for long walks. There are many people getting better on a low fat high fiber diet, with exercise.
@xmonikerhotmailcom
10 ай бұрын
Anecdotal evidence, lowest form of evidence.
@mayurim9839
Жыл бұрын
I think the best thing about this channel is that it never attacks the people and there's no emotion attached to any statement made from either party. Thank you for the video; found it super helpful! 🙂
@jorgearg8701
Жыл бұрын
you say "don't attack people" but the nerve to the titles "somebody is getting fact checked from me" when in most cases it's evidence against evidence.
@UnnamedThinkTank
Жыл бұрын
@@jorgearg8701 Dr Gil has made one point very clear. Everyone must be fact checked. Doctors/gurus/politicians blah blah whoever. Also in my very humble opinion, whoever takes offense to "fact checking" is detrimental to science. Fact checking, citing sources/evidence/articles, even investigating articles supporting a certain claim is part of science. You will offend someone eventually but that how science works. Ultimately, trust no-one, trust is only for yourself and family. Gil encourages us to be skeptics and that is good. Gil even tell us not to fully trust him either. So all deserved to be confronted and fact check, and the fact checker, Gil here, welcomed people to fact check him too. But so far no youtube doctors have taken up the challenge to him.
@damiettes7140
Жыл бұрын
@@jorgearg8701do you understand the “hierarchy of evidence “ at all?
@animalsarebeautifulpeople3094
9 ай бұрын
"Never attacks the people" ?? Did you know that dog flesh is a lot healthier for humans than pig or cow flesh? If someone recommended that we all start cutting up dogs for our health would you "attack them"? Or wouldn't you?
@joerockhead7246
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're putting this guy... to the test.
@garyhennessey3621
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@iChefTheImpossible
Жыл бұрын
No ones done it….until now!
@maricamaas2326
Жыл бұрын
@@iChefTheImpossible Could be since it's so difficult to be exposed to his ridiculousness for more than a few minutes 😅
@jonm7888
7 ай бұрын
It seems like he passed the test.
@goku445
3 ай бұрын
@@maricamaas2326 Oh yeah insults.
@robertusga
Жыл бұрын
Michael Greger helped me turn my horrible diet around to a healthier one. Gil Carvalho helped me see that when it comes to health claims, we should focus on outcome based data from quality studies in humans and not trying to bend / misrepresent those studies to fit a certain agenda. Thanks Gil!
@skholiwemngometulu7619
Жыл бұрын
well said !
@Primal391
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure any diet would have been better than the one you were on from the sounds of it.
@robertusga
Жыл бұрын
@Adam H ah, so you knew what I was eating. Go on.
@Primal391
Жыл бұрын
@@robertusga not sure I can make it any simpler for you.
@robertusga
Жыл бұрын
@Adam H you mean you can't make it even more vague to make it have even less meaning? Possibly true.
@chrissy739
Жыл бұрын
A whole food plantbased diet really helped improve my immune system and my lung issues. My bloods are great. So if you can be healthy on a plantbased diet and that type of food is available to you why would you choose one that hurts animals and the planet?
@738hickory
4 ай бұрын
You can eat a lot of animal products without killing the animals. Eggs, stone crab claws, butter, milk, yogurt, cheese, etc.
@goku445
3 ай бұрын
@@738hickory You are so wrong. Male chicks are ground alive(!) in the egg industry. Dairy and beef industry are one. When cows don't stop producing enough, they are slaughtered.
@MsCValentiner
Ай бұрын
@@738hickory What do you think happens to the animals when they no longer produce enough? I think you could look into how these animals are treated in their short lives. Take a look at the way they get transported and slaughtered while you're at it.
@EricLewandowski-vn7ky
6 күн бұрын
@@738hickory You should research those cruel industries. Try watching Dominion.
@tubingtonite
Жыл бұрын
The founder of the Atkins Diet (Meat , Eggs, Dairy,, Etc) cause of death was not known for a time until his wife finally felt it was her responsibility to the public to admit he died of a heart attack and had severe blockage throughout his body. Important to always remember is plant base is always the staple food in the Blue Zones, and very little meat(The longest living people in the world). Hard to argue against that.
@C2C.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your continued evidenced-based discussions. While I agree that Dr. Gregor could have done a better job in presenting his arguments, it's clear that Ivor Cummings was engaged in systematic factual misrepresentation and distortions to an egregious degree. This video would have been better presented as a review of the flaws in this type of sensational media "debate," as well as the types flaws and fallacies debaters will resort to. A better way to address Dr. Greger's positions would be to review a compilation of comments he's made in his videos. Here, most of the problematic claims were actually made by Cummings.
@mountaingoattaichi
Жыл бұрын
I am in diabetes prevention in a Native American community in the US, and I find your channel immensely helpful. Thank you!
@greensmoothieparty
Жыл бұрын
My mom is not statistically significant or peer reviewed but her experience has had real significance among her circle of friends and family. 2 1/2 years ago, my 80 year old mother finally had a follow up appointment with her physician which was delayed for months because her doctor has been in charge of treating Covid patients in the hospital and in nursing homes and was not able to meet with her. She had a full blood panel taken for this visit and her doctor was astounded at the progress she had made during the last year. She is now no longer diabetic and she was instructed to stop taking insulin after having been on it for 12 years. Her doctor also praised her kidney function which has never looked better. Also, she couldn't believe that her total cholesterol was only 139, with LDL of 67, HDL of 60, and triglycerides of 82 which is a big improvement for her. According to the Framingham Heart Study, these numbers mean that she is virtually "heart attack proof" as many plant based doctors have noted. Her physician (Johns Hopkins med school grad) mentioned that she is reconsidering the diet for her family based on this experience. She also asked my mom to share her experience with our community after the pandemic. All of these results are exactly what I had hoped would occur. Here is the menu that I had developed for her to try to mimic what she was used to eating -> GSP Mother's Menu - While this menu is not a pure whole foods plant based diet, it appears to be health promoting enough to work for her. I plugged her bloodwork test values into the Levine Biological Age Calculator and she has aged minus 15 years during the last 3 years. I joke with her that she may be required to give up her Social Security benefits if she keeps going like that. My understanding is that low carb diets are a workaround that do not address the root cause of diabetes which is excess intramyocellular lipids (also fatty liver/pancreas) and the resulting insulin resistance. Excess saturated fats and refined sugar/flour are the most common cause of this metabolic system failure. Unless a person can eat whole food complex carbs again without a prolonged spiking of their blood sugar, type 2 diabetes has not been reversed. Cheers! ps - She was able to get off of all blood pressure medications after 3 years, tapering off so as not to over-medicate which is dangerous because it can deprive tissues of necessary oxygen and nutrients.
@nancy9478
Жыл бұрын
@@greensmoothieparty carbs, plants in any form raise inflamation markers. Meat based is the only thing that stopped my fatty liver, diabetes, hives and arthritis.
@karlhungus5554
Жыл бұрын
@Mountain Goat Tai Chi - Have you seen the following channel? If not, it might be worth considering. *Mastering Diabetes* www.youtube.com/@MasteringDiabetes
@tyronmegawatts6580
Жыл бұрын
@@nancy9478 I am the opposite, plants work for me.
@mountaingoattaichi
Жыл бұрын
@@greensmoothieparty thanks for sharing your experiences
@sandeepnij
Жыл бұрын
Regarding that chart showing red meat consumption going down when diabetes risk was going up, it's worth pointing out that cigarette consumption was also going down at the same time. Perhaps we should restart smoking to prevent diabetes? 😊
@tom-qj6uw
Жыл бұрын
And also the average horsepower of cars went up - this can't be coincidence ;-) It would have been great if Dr Gregor had pulled the chart of some stock which perfectly matches the increase in diabetes to prove that diabetes in Americans 'obviously' is caused by the stock rise of some car component supplier somewhere in Asia since the eyeball test is the best! ;-)
@katiephillips5360
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the clarity and sanity. So no highly processed, junky, chemical laden food. Just whole food as clean as I can afford. Don’t overeat. Try to not stress. A little exercise everyday. Sounds like my Grandmother’s lifestyle and she lived beyond 100 years. Thanks, Dr Gil! Your videos have set me free from the overwhelming confusion. 😊
@vtheb1299
8 ай бұрын
Yes the reality is that it's really a no brainer but the problem is that you can sum it all up in one sentence, as you did, and one cannot make money on that basic information - neither from supplements nor a KZitem channel, nor a book. Just like your grandma didn't need "experts" to tell her all that, it's basic common sense. And it's not profitable. So both sides of the argument who have a monetary stake in it go to extremes.
@MichaelGGarry
Жыл бұрын
GBNews is the UK version of Fox news. Theres a reason they want a debate in easy boxes like that.....
@flvflv4712
Жыл бұрын
wow...i can smell a snob elitist pretending to be leftist...i am wrong?
@flvflv4712
Жыл бұрын
and i will also add...in MSM (aka leftist media) debates aren't even a thing. it's conform or be labelled bigot nazi fascist etc
@sammavitae114
Жыл бұрын
Yup simple minds love a cartoon world, where there are only either or choices.
@veganfortheanimals6994
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not a good thing
@Nobody-Nowhere
Жыл бұрын
Red meat consumption started to go down only from 1979. Before that, it only went up. And its not like meat consumption dropped, it increased substantially. People just started to eat more chicken. Meat consumption from 1979 went up by 1/3rd.
@asarcadyn2414
Жыл бұрын
So are you saying chicken causes heart disease and red meat doesn't?
@Dan16673
Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@peterpan408
5 ай бұрын
Chicken is protein.. but is not nutrient dense. It's the protein powder of meats!
@ravelanone9462
Жыл бұрын
Your voice of reason cuts through the fanaticism that is rampant in dietary recommendations these days. Always educational and always appreciated! Muito obrigada!
@lkelly4337
Жыл бұрын
This are my results. Went on a whole food plant based diet for 3 months. My TMAO and APO B went down to 50%. Added small amount of meat, eggs and cheese to my diet for 3 months. My TMAO and APO B score doubled. All other life style stayed the same. Body weight stayed the same. My conclusion is that for me TMAO and APO B increases with increased consumption of meat, eggs and cheese.
@mrtorbert
Жыл бұрын
What were your before and after measurements of apob?
@TangoMasterclass
Жыл бұрын
So happy for you!
@NutritionMadeSimple
Жыл бұрын
good example of applying sci info to individual circumstance! thanks for sharing
@skorpers
Жыл бұрын
I also have the question of what the before and after measurements were.
@larryc1616
Жыл бұрын
This is expected but everyone is different so how much these levels go up will vary.
@unholyquail4560
Жыл бұрын
Look Greger is a bit extreme in his statements and he goes a bit too far in his enthousiasm and conviction. However his books are exelent introduction of How not to die and Diet.. Alot of people can really learn alot from what the modern diet does to your odds of pathology and how they do that. Golden source of information in my opinion. Just needs al little less edge to it.
@JW4REnvironment
7 ай бұрын
I like your overall assessment of Dr. Greger's contributions to public understanding!
@cathypaulino2153
7 ай бұрын
I like him just the way he is.
@PlantbasedSilvi
6 ай бұрын
Ich finde es extrem Tiere zu essen.
@carolejackson8357
Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about Dr. Gregers resources is his free, high quality app that helps people track whether they are including nutrient rich, plant based foods in their daily diets.
@jacobgise2479
Жыл бұрын
I cannot say enough positive comments about your comprehensive breakdown. Well done sir!
@breno3635
Жыл бұрын
Best nutrition channel on youtube hands down. Thank you for your work Gil!
@masher1042
Жыл бұрын
To quote Michael Pollen. "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." 🙏
@Weazelmania
9 ай бұрын
I find it hard to debunk Dr. Greger. I followed his advice and despite now getting older, i have never felt younger and better. Even my doctor was impressed in turn around of bloods and weight.
@lint8391
9 ай бұрын
I agree. Plant based eating and reducing consumption of junk and semi junk has a lot to be said for it.
@reasonablevegan
8 ай бұрын
I love Greger as well. But it doesn’t mean he’s right about everything. Seems like he might be wrong about olive oil and a couple other things. But maybe not. I own all his books and he has been a big influence on my life.
@benoitseguin625
7 ай бұрын
l agree with you the same here l went on his plant-base diet and bang weight gone, off all meds, all labs perfect. In my opinion there is a lot to what he states. l would have to agree with him, so much so l bought all his books. My health is 100 times better than it was before. Meat eaters have it wrong as my dad and mom ate meat 3 times a day and died young from heart problems so sorry l'll stick with this way of eating as l feel amazing. And just maybe l'll live longer and healthier. My doctor was so impressed she wanted to know what changed so she can tell others to check it out. Lynn
@jamessullenriot
Жыл бұрын
This was a painful “debate”. But what should we expect for a quick hit segment on morning tv?
@joysegars9399
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your objectivity! My husband and I are 66 and 67 and we eat mostly plant based with rare nibbles of cheese and desserts when at dinner parties or traveling. He goes on 50 mile bike rides and does yoga, sit ups, and push ups, and I exercise moderately but regularly (mostly walking, sit ups, and easy push ups). We are on no prescription medications except I take a very low dose of thyroid medication even though my numbers are in the low normal range. We recently got our NAD tested through Do Not Age and it was at the level of teenagers! I assume that’s related to our diet and exercise, but I suppose it could be genetic. I’m not saying one has to be vegetarian or vegan to have a much younger biological age, but I think that cutting out all or most meat, chicken, and fish simply leaves more room on your plate and in your stomach for beans, vegetables, and fruits. We do take a supplement for vegans (Complement Plus, no affiliation) with B12, D3, K2, magnesium, iodine, DHA/EPA, selenium, and zinc. It’s no coincidence that the best known Harvard professor, lifespan researcher, and author Dr. David Sinclair is vegetarian. He and Dr. Greger might not be perfect, but I think they’re both on to something when it comes to diet. And why kill animals when you simply don’t have to in order to be very strong and healthy?
@joysegars9399
Жыл бұрын
PS: We eat 95% organic, too.
@ceolbeats7182
Жыл бұрын
Well said👍🏽
@MT-zs6rg
Жыл бұрын
"and why kill animals when you dont have too in order to be strong and healthy?" Vegans kill the same amount of animals omnivores do. Do you have an idea of how many small mammals die during the harvesting of crops? Or.maybe your logic is that a cow's life is equals to the lives of hundreds of.mice. Mice, hares, birds, etc are all killed by the billions by the agricultural industry
@Wen6543
Жыл бұрын
Nice Joey, it looks like you and your husband are doing fantastic. Unfortunately for some us vegetarian diets are not a choice, i´m highly intolerant to many carbohydrates and all the omnivore and vegan diets i tried only made my health worse and worse, tried everything for almost 30 years just to end up near death (don´t pitty me, i still made a lot with my life and now i´m doing more than ever), i lost so much time and health and it was all about the diet, only animal products, some green leaf vegetales and water fully nourish me. I always say that people should make their diet based on their real needs and not in their ethics, if we have to eat animals then there is nothing wrong with that, is our natural position in the trophic system.
@garyb9565
Жыл бұрын
First of all, great video as always. Secondly, and more importantly, over the last few years because of some unfortunate circumstances I've watched hundreds and hundreds of videos on nutrition and diet and have read a dozen or more books on the subject, and after all that, I can say that in my opinion this is absolutely the most well-balanced, reasoned and reliably informative nutrition and diet channel on youtube. Keep up the great work.
@thomashugus5686
Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@marcdaniels9079
Жыл бұрын
Also check out Nurished by Science which is quite new and FANTASTIC
@Vahe345
11 ай бұрын
Just wait 4 to 6 years your health will decline. Especially liver and skin.
@LifeOptimise
Жыл бұрын
What about the The Esselstyn Heart Disease Program at Cleveland Clinic that’s been reversing heart disease for over 10 years and is based on plant based nutrition training and coaching alone? For the past ten years at Cleveland Clinic, over 1,000 patients have participated in Dr. Esselstyn’s program . . . why would a clinic as large as the Cleveland clinic carry on these programs and put their name to something that didn’t have results and research behind it? ‘Five of the 24 patients in Dr. Esselstyn’s initial study were told by cardiologists that they had less than a year to live. Yet, 12+ years later after following the Esselstyn Program they survived symptom free. Symptoms diminished (and often disappeared) within eight to 12 weeks of starting the program. Within months, these dramatic changes occurred: Cholesterol lowered: Patients’ average total cholesterol levels dropped from 246 mg/dL to 137 mg/dL. No cardiac events: Before the study, the patients had 49 cardiac events (coronary bypass surgery, angioplasties, etc.). None of the patients who adhered to the eating plan experienced a cardiac event within 12 years of follow-up. Excellent angiograms: Patients’ angiograms showed a widening of the coronary arteries - a reversal of heart disease.’ I would bet a LOT of money on anyone with heart problems having a complete reversal of their symptoms if they adopt a 100% whole food plant based diet. There is no money in nutrition research so all we are ever going to get are small scale studies and anecdotal evidence, but there are stacks of these small scale studies. We need some more brave hospitals and health care providers like the Cleveland clinic to run these programs in every hospital around the world and the mountains of evidence will become too large to ignore and hopefully one day make it onto the governments nutrition guidelines and into doctors prescription guidelines 🤦♂️🤯🤯🤯 . . . we can dream!
@delwoodkelp8590
Жыл бұрын
Too bad you left out a KEY element of those 24 patients in that Esselstyn study. They were ALL on statins along with their dieitary changes. A point that so many fail to even be aware of. BTW, his later published article on the larger study, of over 170 participants, nearly ALL of them were on statins. Regarding your "betting a lot of money" that ANYONE following Esselstyn's program would have " complete reversal of their symptoms" Sorry but you'll absolutely lose that bet.
@LifeOptimise
Жыл бұрын
@@delwoodkelp8590 Yes they were on statins but so are many people who later end up having a heart attack or triple bypass surgery I don't see what your point is? They were given 1 year to live DESPITE being on statins already . . . statins don't cure heart disease, they just manage symptoms and attempt to prevent a worsening onset of the disease by taking more and more statins while people continue to clog up their arteries by consuming more and more artery clogging foods (animal products). They can't not put people on statins and just hope they follow his diet 100% because most people are stupid and don't listen. Why would a credible hospital like the Cleveland clinic continue with this program if it had no benefit? Don't you think they took a massive risk and probably experienced massive backlash even introducing it? If it wasn't a huge success it would have been removed immediately wouldn't it!??
@peterpan408
5 ай бұрын
Also even if the V diet was a positive factor in the program, it does not mean the V diet is the only dietary solution.. Beating SAD is easy.. pick a more difficult comparison 😉
@Alan-71351
4 ай бұрын
False!😂@@delwoodkelp8590
@goku445
3 ай бұрын
@@delwoodkelp8590 source of your claim? This is not in the actual study.
@alane3983
Жыл бұрын
Greger, Ornish, Esselstyn, Campbell , etc have been my anchors in the stormy journey to plant based eating. And in general, I am still convinced of the health advantages of excluding meat, not to mention the environmental advantages as well. All the diet type advocates agree on getting processed foods out. So there is no controversy there. I appreciate your very calm and well reasoned analysis of the various positions. I appreciate your sound reviews of the evidence that these guys use to support their messages. It really helps to temper my arguments when discussing diet with family and friends. The further I get into this, the less entrenched I am. In the end, we really can’t say for sure what killed us if we didn’t die in an accident.
@patrickvanmeter2922
Жыл бұрын
Maybe. Heart disease is still the 1# killer in the US. Greger is a clear winner when it comes to your heart and cardiovascular health. We can still stay alive with losing our health from other damaged organs like kidneys or liver, just to name 2. All of the above suffer from a bad heart. Slam dunk, IMO.
@alane3983
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickvanmeter2922 I think Greger says that heart disease is still the number one killer of vegans. Not good enough to be plant based. You have to be whole foods plant based to reduce those risks. Being strictly whole foods is the most difficult for me. Giving up meat was super easy.
@davesmith826
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickvanmeter2922 I take it you failed to watch the video. There's an entire section on CVD and Greger does *not* offer a convincing justification for his take on it.
@patrickvanmeter2922
Жыл бұрын
@@alane3983 I think Loma Linda in northern California is the best example. 7th Day Adventists seem to live the longest.
@patrickvanmeter2922
Жыл бұрын
@@davesmith826 CVD is what destroys the heart. Greger convinced me.
@marshcreek4355
Жыл бұрын
This is crazy. The fact your channel is only hovering atound 150k subscribers makes no sense. You provide the best information hands down. The best medical channel out there. Keep pushing as folks truly need this remarkable content.
@primalvegan3072
7 ай бұрын
In my experience, most people who aren't vegans refer to EVERY other diet as "meat based". It's SO GOOD to hear you outright state that omnivore diets aren't "meat based".
@tnargs57
6 ай бұрын
....except in the eyes of most omnivores themselves, who generally refer to their meals by their meat: "I had roast beef for dinner last night, sausages tonight, and a ham sandwich for lunch tomorrow." So it's not just the vegans doing it! 😄
@im2old4this2
Жыл бұрын
The Caldwell Esselstyn program kept people alive who had been left for dead by their cardiologists - pretty amazing study.
@lashedbutnotleashed1984
Жыл бұрын
A study so haphazardly done is far from amazing.
@im2old4this2
Жыл бұрын
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 amazing is subjective but most people think bringing people left for dead back to living a healthy life is amazing. It may not have been the best "study" but it was most definitely amazing - especially for the people who were told they were going to be dead long ago.
@lashedbutnotleashed1984
Жыл бұрын
@@im2old4this2 If you actually read the study, you will find it is full of flaws. People were still taking medication, so it is impossible to say the diet was what prolonged any lives instead of the meds. It was mostly an anecdotal study with very little scientific proof. Esselstyn's study is seen as somewhat of a joke among most scientists.
@im2old4this2
Жыл бұрын
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 where did I claim it was flawless? It is clear that the diet had significant positive impacts on the health outcomes of all of the participants who remained compliant, even if it wasn't the only factor. Each of them extended their life expectancy and improved their health.
@LeanAndMean44
Жыл бұрын
Amazing outcome but scientifically speaking, from the evidence in the study it’s not good at all, let alone amazing. Gil gave good arguments against it and explained the weak evidence, you haven’t made any objections other than emotion and caring for humans in your comment. I am not inclined to discuss it with you or eve repeat the arguments. Again, yes the outcome it humanly amazing, but scientifically speaking, evidently it’s far from amazing .
@aesahettr
Жыл бұрын
oh my god i'm just through the first 20 minutes and it's staggering how superior you and your format are compared to what you were commenting, thank you for making these videos
@cyc00000
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more, this is the sole reason why I stopped watching the other Dr. G.
@terry2346
Жыл бұрын
The increase in Refined sugar intake, especially high fructose corn syrup, and the increase of highly refined carbs might also have a fair amount to do with the increase in CV disease. Certainly reducing sugar in the diet helps many to control type 2 diabetes.
@alansnyder8448
9 ай бұрын
I was on a quest to find good information about diet choices, and after bouncing around the Internet and KZitem hearing the gurus of different "diet tribes" argue in pseudo-scientific ways for specific diets with this channel I feel like I've found my home. Thank you to the author of this channel for going straight to the studies with a truly scientific attitude which is clear about what we currently know and don't know about diets. I've just subscribed and will be a follower from this point forward.
@eazyrat
Жыл бұрын
id love to hear you and greger iron out some kinks in a chat. Mike the vegan did a video on the ornish study that made it sound quite compelling. thanks
@bubblebrainbow
Жыл бұрын
This is not a showdown I'm prepared for, oh God
@holasoyjose9683
6 ай бұрын
Your analysis is brilliant, I have been impressed. This should be common but it is a rarity. Analyzing like this should be taught in schools, and this type of analysis should be done normally in all debates and programs. I'm going to subscribe to your channel
@CitizenTurtleIsland
6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I fell into a rabbit hole over the past 24 hours. It was a Dr. Greger rabbit hole! (Worried about an upcoming visit to check my increasing HDL and Total cholesterol levels at 62. I suspect that is related to ageing mostly (and possibly increased inflammation... so many things cropping up like Rosacea, Dupuytren contracture, etc.) as I exercise, eat mostly plants already (throughout my lifespan to date), etc.). -- Good to have somone offer some counterpoint. - I think I will rely on common sense. Eat more plants, keep your body moving, avoid highly processed foods. Stuff like that. I am NOT going to continue agonizing over whether or not I can drink milk in my tea or eat a few eggs each week.
@harbingerbk1
Жыл бұрын
"You can get hella plants on all kinds of different diets that are not vegetarian." 😅 I absolutely love your videos Dr. Gil!! So entertaining and balanced and well presented and researched.
@harbingerbk1
Жыл бұрын
Cannot get over how entertaining and well done this commentary is. Absolutely amazing Dr. Gil 👏👏👏
@carinaekstrom1
Жыл бұрын
They have to have very high amounts of whole plants in them, though.
Жыл бұрын
I believe “Gil” is his first name and “Carvalho” his last name. So it should be “Dr. Carvalho.”
@ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy
Жыл бұрын
Most likely he's from San Francisco bay area.
@harbingerbk1
Жыл бұрын
@ haha thanks but I know this! I just find "Dr. Carvalho" sounds too formal and "Gil" sounds too familiar so I compromise 🙃
@lainrich
Жыл бұрын
Wow, you, my friend, present a voice of reason in the very charged, muddled and murky waters of nutrition. I recently completed a certificate in nutrition with someone who shares your analytical skills. He presented facts, not emotion. He drove home the point that for every study showing meat and dairy consumption is "bad" for you, there will be another showing you that it is "good" for you. He stressed that it is extremely difficult, if not impossible to conduct a blind, randomized study on nutrition with a control group. Thanks for helping to clarify what we can prove and disprove. You have a new subscriber.
@characterized_tony
Жыл бұрын
I'm a passionate dedicated vegan for ethical reasons. I know that it's feasible to be healthy on a plant based diet and that's all that matters to me. I'm also a nurse with the duty of helping people to make healthy choices. Dr. Gregor's content has always seemed a bit far out to me though, so I have to have caution when listening to him. If we're talking pure chemistry and biology, optimal health can be achieved with numerous diets. But veganism is about the animals and that's why I do it and urge others to as well.
@richardcardinale7152
Жыл бұрын
No choice for me to go carnivore all in sincer been vegan for 10 years.
@paulmaxwell8851
10 ай бұрын
In the UK it appears veganism is mostly about animal welfare. In the US and Canada it tends to more about personal health.
@voicedbird
Жыл бұрын
I would be lost in so much nonsense if it weren't for this channel. Thanks so much for all your hard work!
@Charlie-502
Жыл бұрын
Dr. Gregor is awesome! He wasn't out of line in any way during this debate
@lenblack1462
Жыл бұрын
He said you were coming. LOL
@timclancy871
Жыл бұрын
You are very good at picking apart people's pet arguments in a fair and balanced way. I always get something from watching your KZitems. Keep up the good, fair and honest work. This scientifically illiterate punter deeply appreciates it.
@Pyriphlegeton
Жыл бұрын
TV segment: 7 mins This video: 45 mins Sadly the average person will watch the former, at most :D Wonderful content as always, however!
@michaeljohnson3383
Жыл бұрын
You're killing it in your analysis of this "debate". I wish we had more voices like yours in the field of nutritional advice rather than the polarising pundits who seem to garner all the attention.
@sherilegacy8870
Ай бұрын
Hello, I’m a new subscriber! Just wanted to say I really love your channel! I love how balanced it is and not full of sensationalized information. It’s so overwhelming trying to learn about something anymore these days.. but your channel is excellent! I recently been told I have high cholesterol and high blood pressure and I’m basically on the verge of a heart attack so I’ve been doing my research and it’s been extremely overwhelming and upsetting to be honest. Your channel has been the most helpful so thank you very much!
@aleksandrl6740
Жыл бұрын
Can't thank you enough for your conscientious, assiduous and nuanced evaluations. You are stellar at separating the signal from the noise. Thank you!
@thomashugus5686
6 ай бұрын
Mediterranean with mostly plant based no red meat and occasional fish. Works great for me
@leeh9520
Жыл бұрын
You are my go to guy your information is so well presented fair and fact based love your videos
@justtired123
4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this great video Dr!
@nevertoolate5325
4 ай бұрын
Its sad that neither diet helps with hair retention.
@zynga726
Жыл бұрын
What I like most about this channel is that it teaches me how to think scientifically.
@irrelevantFJS
2 ай бұрын
Extremely excellent video. As a scientist, I really appreciated how you explained things such as correlation isn't causation. You're probably one of the first people on the internet I've seen talking about nutrition that wasn't just spouting hyperbolized and dramaticized diet dogma. I'm vegan, but it has nothing to do with my health. A healthy diet can look like many different things. I don't appreciate when people say "this is the only way to be healthy." Health and nutrition is complex, and I think your scientific but easy to understand method of communication really works.
@elliotpollard9083
Жыл бұрын
Number of rocket launches vs Type II Diabetes, it's basic rocket science.
@Dawn-pe5to
Жыл бұрын
These types of "debates" where only extremes are represented are really not helpful to the general public.
@tilenkoren8244
Жыл бұрын
Your channel might not grow as fast as the more controversial channels, but i thank you for actually "following the science". And thank you for giving us tools so we can do the same. I wonder if its the nature of the internet that forces creators to shout louder or just human nature that makes hard to take in nuanced information. Whatever the case, I believe you to be on the right side of things.
@sallytaylor4491
Жыл бұрын
"Give people the imperfect facts." Bravo. I am so sick of dietary zealots. Healthy Regards from the UK.
@Donadzea
Жыл бұрын
Veganism seems very healthy on paper but majority of them quit because of health complications and I do believe it is unfair to mark diet as "healthy" when supplementation is mandatory on it. Also trying to get 2 grams of protein per kg on plant based diet is pretty hard on stomach.
@cazzawazzadingdong5139
11 ай бұрын
There was a study done on why "vegans" refrain form being vegan. Top reasons were social pressure (in other words what you're doing now with your bias and falsehoods) and convienience.
@rayharris1093
6 ай бұрын
that is wildly wildly untrue, the majority of "them" do not quit, there are big numbers of very very long term vegans, vegetarians and whole cultures, groups, etc that are vegetarian and not all dying in fact many are the most healthy like Loma Linda. Supplements are no more required ( and the only one really b-12 that many meat eaters also are deficient in they just don't ever think about it or are told about it) than they CAN be in any diet depending on the person. You're just talking about people that try it for a fad. Meat eating diet is also not magically healthy just simply abcasue you eat meat and are not trying to have a helathy balanced approach, supplements or eating ALSO many vegetables, grains etc. In fact people that eat too much meat and not enough or no veg have also HUGE health problems, cancers, stomach colon issues, heart disease, many things. Any diet to be healthy needs to actually be healthy. your analysis is like vegans comparing how bad a meat eating diet is by looking at people who only eat McDonald's and KFC.
@bitfinesse
5 ай бұрын
2 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight? Where does this come from? Who’s recommendation is that? Some pro-kidney-transplant group?
@stevenr5149
9 ай бұрын
As former researcher, I feel that most KZitem nutrition videos make me feel I'm having an aneurysm. Today, I had a nasty headache before watching this video. It is now gone!😯 This evidence is in 😂. Seriously, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you and everyone behind Nutrition Made Simple.🙂
@bigjay1970
Жыл бұрын
I literally have watched tens of thousands of hours over the last 15 years I suppose regarding this whole nutrition thing. I would have to say out of all these individuals you're definitely a top five.
@sO_RoNerY
Жыл бұрын
Dude, he’s just like those other doctors who claims to know the truth about health. He’s no different. His job is literally to be a KZitemr. Does he even have an office to drive to and a station to study his claims?
@WilliamRoscoe
Жыл бұрын
@@sO_RoNerY He's different in many ways: 1. He is not a full time KZitemr. 2. He has a PhD in medicine. 3. He is a full time medical researcher. 4. He usually provides links to the scientific studies he mentions in every video. 5. He has no affiliate links to overpriced products, or any products at all. 6. He has no monthly membership programme to earn extra money. 7. He is not on a personal crusade to convince you that one particular diet is better than all others. 8. When he is not an expert on a topic he invites world renowned experts on that topic onto his channel to educate him and us. 9. He follows the balance of evidence provided by scientific research rather than cherry picking one study and extrapolating that to make "bold claims". 10. He encourages you to challenge him whereas other KZitem "doctors" will generally delete any comments that challenge them. And for those ten reasons alone (and the fact that he's a funny guy) he's by far the best source of information on KZitem regarding nutrition.
@Bonnie-yu3kj
9 ай бұрын
@@sO_RoNerY what does having an office to drive to and a station to study his claims at have a thing to do with anything? LOL The points he makes are all backed up by science and he has no agenda to sell. Dr. C gives a very fair, unbiased view on the many claims made by others who do have an agenda and something to sell. I don't know what more you want "dude".
@granthurlburt4062
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this fine presentation. It's so clear you know there arent simple answers and your intelligence and knowledge and lack of bias helps us make decisions.
Жыл бұрын
Greger's videos helped me very much when I went vegan but this debate was a disaster... Thankfully the other guy wasn't that much better...
@scheuermann11
Жыл бұрын
There are so many "experts" whose answer to everything is just be Keto or just be vegan, I appreciate your more balanced evidence based approach
@sO_RoNerY
Жыл бұрын
Greger has a video on keto.
@unlikelyally5325
Жыл бұрын
I love Dr Greger, and I love you, sir! This was a very fair breakdown and analysis. I love the focus on facts and reining in exaggerations, while still being practical and real. We need a lot more of this. Have you ever covered Dr David Katz or read any of his books, such as The Truth About Food? I love him as well for pretty much sticking to these factors.
@murraypooley9199
9 ай бұрын
Dr. Gill keeps useing the expression "logical leaps".How in a 7 minute debate can we expect any different? The debators to not have time to offer evidence for their assertions.
@AG-ld6rv
Жыл бұрын
If I had to guess (and it would be a guess), vegetarianism is often done by a person who has a desire to be healthy. I bet many people who go vegetarian are also doing other things like exercising more -- at least more than the group of people who just eat whatever they want. I'd bet they also smoke less tobacco and drink less alcohol. I come to this point often when I see a quick and dirty study showing an association. It reads "People who care about their health seem to have fewer health problems." Well, yes...
@rogerpenrod5214
6 ай бұрын
At my physical, my provider did a sonogram on my carotid. No sign of any plaques. 10 years of plant 😮based diet gives results. I’m 70YO
I've fact checked there is no such thing as a expert.
@jozefwoo8079
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Gill for your relentless rationality! It's a gift, it's amazing and above all it's inspiring!
@herbevans2727
Жыл бұрын
Is it any surprise there is so much confusion around nutrition when so many people get their information from 'entertainment' shows like this one, with two 'debaters' both making unfounded and/or exaggerated claims? It's incredibly frustrating to watch. Glad I found this channel....thanks Gil!
@llicit1833
Жыл бұрын
I always think Blue Zones populations (mostly but not exclusively plant based) make a pretty good model as something that has worked in the real world. And initially they were just looking for the communities with the highest longevity and healthspans. The fact that all five populations just happened to have such an emphasis on unprocessed largely plant based diet seems quite compelling.
@toomanymarys7355
Жыл бұрын
None of those communities except the Adventists have any vegetarians. So no.
@wreckedbmwguy9925
Жыл бұрын
@@toomanymarys7355except that in pretty much every blue zone, the vast majority of the diet is plant based. They may not be 100% plant based, but they aren’t far from it.
@joemontgomery860
Жыл бұрын
@@toomanymarys7355the blue zones were primarily whole food plant based diets. “Primarily” - any animal products were minimal and certainly not factory farmed like today.
@Claude_van
4 ай бұрын
@@joemontgomery860Minimal? No. Around 30%.
@barbarahenn-pander5872
8 ай бұрын
This video mostly underscores the mental evacuation of fact, context, humility, and scientific rigour in our everyday audiences. I appreciate you identifying this in a time when yelling and showing off means what you say is “true”. Beautiful job. 👍
@kiesnutrition2809
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much. Unbiased, not dogmatic, truly science-based. My own way of thinking is always checked and recalculated after every video I watch. Thank you so much for the great content.
@thomashugus5686
6 ай бұрын
I feel that reducing my saturated fat intake by reducing red meat is beneficial to me due to LDL reduction. Just seems to help!
@meatflake
Жыл бұрын
Love your objective analysis.
@jamesmcbeth4463
6 ай бұрын
Strangely enough, I had anemia, rheumatoid arthritis and acid reflux that all mysteriously went away after going plant based.
@brettborder
Жыл бұрын
Decent discussion...I'm troubled by some of your references as "cherry-picked" as well. I do appreciate your neutral approach and can see you have researched the topics discussed; however, being younger, you don't truly know what age can do towards chronic conditions or how they affect an individual. When I was your age, I was healthy (on paper via blood tests, appearance, BMI, etc.). When my Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, psoriasis, ulcerative colitis, declining liver and kidney functions, cholesterol, CVD appeared over time, I looked for ways to improve my health. When I adopted a plant food diet (really a lifestyle), I was forced off medications I was on, over six months, for four of the aforementioned diseases/conditions. It has been three years now and my bloodwork is always in the normal range (or better), I am at a healthy weight/BMI, I feel fantastic, my depression is manageable, and I have life to look forward to. The funny thing is that I went on a plant diet to support my daughter who wanted to help the environment. The side effects have been so tremendous. Your closing statements are really diplomatic for someone who eats meat. I agree that meat-eating won't negatively impact the health of a great deal of the population, but it is now more than individual health. I have received many more years to my life (I hope, after "reversing" diabetes, high blood pressure, bowel disease, skin disease, and a stroke and other complications) from adopting a plant-based diet, but I'm most happy about reducing suffering and contributing to a healthier planet for my children. That, of course, is another debate altogether...
@AndrewMcCusker
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the balanced fact checking approach here. Just a point of clarification that I think is missed: When Dr. Greger advocates for a “whole foods, plant-based diet,” he’s not advocating for a vegan or vegetarian diet specifically. He mentions this in his books and his videos. Rather he’s advocating for a diet that maximizes whole foods, plants, etc. while minimizing processed foods, animal products, etc. Therefore, his approach could include vegan, vegetarian, Mediterranean, etc. It could also exclude these same diets, depending on the foods being eaten.
@davesmith826
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gil. I've asked for a fact-check of Greger a few times on your channel and I'm very glad you found the time to do one. My dad treats Greger as something of a messiah but I'm innately suspicious of anyone who offers easy solutions to complex problems. You proved, once again, to be the voice of reason. All the best.
@ExplorerBob
Жыл бұрын
Switching to a plant-based diet isn't an "easy solution". It takes effort to change ones current eating habits to new healthier ones.
@davesmith826
Жыл бұрын
@@ExplorerBob I accept that. I was referring to the simplicity in Greger's argument: all meat is bad, all vegetables are good. This is an easy solution to the problem he often poses to his fans: how to live longer. And it's simplistic nonsense.
@swites
Жыл бұрын
It is all pretty simple. Most diseases in the west are diseases of excess. Excess calories excess fat, excess sugar. Excess processed crap. Going strictly wholefoods plant based - no added sugar, salt, or added oil cuts out so many of these excesses. People lose weight as are eating less calories(no junk foods vegan or otherwise make the list) blood sugars goes down, blood pressure decreases. People aren't eating extra cholesterol on top of what their body produces so that generally goes down as well. Of course if you lower markers which lead to heart disease and diabetes complications, you will be healthier and live longer than you otherwise would if these disease markers remained high. Are there other ways to do this? Probably. But to call it "simplistic nonsense" when it is obviously one quite logical approach, doesn't really make sense imo.
@FruityHachi
Жыл бұрын
@@davesmith826 can you reference where does he state that? he wouldn’t be advocating for a clean diet if all vegetables are good, he’d be advocating for eating anything as long as it’s a vegetable, can be processed and deep-fried in oil
@robz.3225
Жыл бұрын
@@davesmith826while Dr. G May overstate the health benefits of a plant-based diet it is far from simplistic nonsense. You do exactly what you are accusing Dr. Gregoire of doing.
@fernandezgpabo
Жыл бұрын
Please upload your videos to spotify, it will amplify your message. It’s a must Gil!! Too much quality info being left on the table
@NutritionMadeSimple
Жыл бұрын
to audio? would have to adapt the format, without images?
@myggggeneration
Жыл бұрын
@@NutritionMadeSimple I actually ^listened^ to the video. When someone in the comments mentioned 20 minutes, I checked the duration and was surprised it is 43 minutes long. Held my attention very well :-) - even though the original interview was painful to listen to. Saddest part: loss of trust in science.
@fionadale8044
Жыл бұрын
@@NutritionMadeSimple Lots of content on Spotify, with and without images. Your audience will grow. Instagram is another worthwhile platform. Although the "clips" are short, it can peak interest leading folks to listen to more in depth content.
@SherryEllesson
Жыл бұрын
"I have friends who are automotive engineers for GM...and that's why you should listen to me about what's wrong with your car." yuh, right. I've actually gone into Greger's database and read a good number of studies myself. What I learned in my Nutrition classes was that size of sample, length, whether or not it's randomized double-blind, mitigating factors, and how the numbers are presented go into what the peer reviews look like. Greger is one of several giants in the field of plant-based nutrition, others being T. Colin Campbell (The China Study), Esselstyn, and McDougall. We might not like what they're saying about the effects of including animal proteins and fats in our diets, but we can't brush them aside, either.
@chrisr.6638
Жыл бұрын
All you really need is to open your eyes see how they all look like from the walking dead
@decifal
Жыл бұрын
ive noticed this fact too honestly
@sophiekarnak3936
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisr.6638 Campbell and Esselstyn are nearly 90 and McDougall and Klaper are mid-70s, yet they are all still fit, healthy, and active. Rip Esselstyn is seriously buff at nearly 60 and looks better than the vast majority of American men who are 20 years younger. Saying that 75-90 yr old vegan doctors don't look great is not the insult you think it is.
@chrisr.6638
Жыл бұрын
@@sophiekarnak3936 They all look severely malnourished and mcdougall's brain is gone
@ceolbeats7182
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisr.6638 Have you seen Nimai Delgado, Clarence Kennedy, Patrick Baboulan 🤣
@jasonito23
7 ай бұрын
I think chart is what made Dr. Greger mad.
@carnismiscancer2108
Жыл бұрын
How come these carnivores are scared to release their blood tests? Remember when Shawn Baker did and he was pre-diabetic with testosterone of an 80 year old? 💀
@anabolicamaranth7140
Жыл бұрын
No no, you see Shawn is an elite athlete who needs high blood sugar to fuel his training and he has elevated testosterone receptors so low T is no issue.
@r0bt93
Жыл бұрын
Some do, and they are shocking. See Paul Saladino. Then they make up some BS about how "LDL isn't bad for you" to try and justify their terrible blood work.
@mindbodyhome102
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. You are clear and concise. What bothers me the most is all the claims Greger makes that he is "evidence based"....I tend to be one who questions these claims (it's in my nature) and I want to see what evidence. Anyone can make claims and SAY they are evidence based but if they do not show/share all that evidence and let us decide, I do tend to dismiss their "evidence based" claims. Greger tends to just show one quote from a study and does not clearly give the name of the study and where his viewers can find the study. As a side note, the hyperfocus on diet is really triggering for folks who have struggled with eating disorders and this is also true with all the different "my diet is the only one that works" type "experts"...why can't we just eat a balanced diet and live our lives?!?! Maybe all the stress around what we do or don't eat just isn't helping!
@RiDankulous
Жыл бұрын
From his videos, he does extensive shots of the studies. However, I find the studies can be quite weak and those weaknesses are not discussed. He uses the positive information to 'wow' his viewers with a slew of positive facts from weak studies. It's more of an emotional argument. Edit: I do feel it's really helpful he cites many studies, though. When there's absolutely no citations from others, I simply won't trust them at all.
@scottcrosby9827
Жыл бұрын
50% of the comments: "In response to your clearly stated quality hierarchy of evidence, I will now give an anecdotal account of how my favorite diet is superior to all the others." Hahaha Love this channel and so glad I found it. Keep up the good work!
@Michael-4
Жыл бұрын
Don't discount the value of individual responses. n=1 is probably the most useful study by a mile.
@leopaulhan
2 ай бұрын
Wow everything is so interesting. I’m a sociologist and the way you analyze the debate, the kind of arguments used and also the informations you give about the subject itself is just amazing. It’s so interesting to see how Science creates Knowledge and how strong this knowledge is according to the method used Thank you, please continue ! 🙏🏻
@KenDBerryMD
Жыл бұрын
Excellent, balanced, science-based comments on both Cummins & Greger!
@Dabs_kitchen
Жыл бұрын
Definitely more evidence to suggest that eating more plants is beneficial for your health…. Considering meat doesn’t necessarily have any phytonutrients to help protect your health 🤷🏽♂️.
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