This tier list has characters who are very close in terms of damage, I don’t think the gap is as wide as it was with the Androids and their pvp boost
@origon4477
2 жыл бұрын
Wow what an astute observation
@TheUndisputedQueso
2 жыл бұрын
@@origon4477 lmao
@TheVeron
2 жыл бұрын
wow sherlock another mystery solved
@raingaming3209
2 жыл бұрын
Androids still the best
@firstname4800
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVeron you’d be surprised how this isn’t obvious lol
@p1xelzzero149
2 жыл бұрын
22:58 YES! THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING HIS DEFENSES WAYYY too many people are saying he’s a usual glass cannon just like the PUR UI Goku, sure he’s squishy at low stars but he gets a lot better defensively at high stars making him probably the most annoying unit to deal with
@wodahs2218
2 жыл бұрын
They are coping hard if they think he is as fragile as his PUR counterpart
@technodry3216
2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for omen zenkai and his defences increase by like 5 each
@web342
2 жыл бұрын
is 6 stars good?
@oblivion5993
2 жыл бұрын
@@web342 Good, i have him at 6 stars too
@xoi69
2 жыл бұрын
He definitely isn't better than ug but the meta is the reason his top3 here and a good kit
@zearow5458
2 жыл бұрын
I remember looking at Vegitos kit and using him for the first time and thinking he was solid but not broken like the recent LFs and USG. But the more I use him, the more incredible he seems. I throw him on leader on LoE and due to the support and the revival it has. Also pairing him with Whis is a good setup on God Ki since he gets the extra green and a solid support aswell.
@Crimstronic
2 жыл бұрын
Tagdroids are 100% #1 in my opinion. Infinite combos, healing, nullify endurance all the time and ignore cover changes. Always a nuisance to fight.
@WithBeautyAndWithLove
2 жыл бұрын
USG>>>. But sure, I can see androids still being that good. I just think USG is the most valuable unit in this meta.
@natixityy
2 жыл бұрын
@@WithBeautyAndWithLove vouch
@darshank8748
2 жыл бұрын
Who cares?
@wanted2657
2 жыл бұрын
@@WithBeautyAndWithLove droids>>>>usg. They literally do everything more than usg while also not needing to lose to get better
@asianmoofin
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta mention their ability to destroying dragon balls just by switching back to 17
@Zed-gj8vq
2 жыл бұрын
Ex Turles claps, imagine being a yellow unit while ex turles is around
@zVxgito
2 жыл бұрын
Best unit ever
@Desxire
2 жыл бұрын
Green baby vegeta is number 1
@Skyeblu224
2 жыл бұрын
@@Desxire hes fell off a bit now hes only the 2nd best after Red turles
@Desxire
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skyeblu224 yes true
@yurayt1913
2 жыл бұрын
Even with only 7 stars, zenkai 7 1400% vb is great. Not always doing the craziest damage, not tanking the best, but he's consistent and great. He became my favorite unit ever over night once I zenkai'd him
@kacgyzenny4011
2 жыл бұрын
I wanna zenkai him so bad But I don’t have him 6 stars sadly
@davidadams7518
2 жыл бұрын
For sure I was able to get him to zenkai 5 when I got him 7 stars about a month ago been using him since with all the mui units running around love his blast shield
@Abraham-nn8hy
2 жыл бұрын
I have VB 12* and he literally 1 shots everyone with his ultimate (except for green units). His ult is like RR to me
@jayb.6705
2 жыл бұрын
Even if you don’t think MUI is the best unit in the game, he’s by FAR the most annoying. When facing the Androids at least you get to play the game, even if you’re being combo’ed for most of the match. With MUI, you just have to wait out the gauge or risk going for a tackle or taps. I already hated passive gameplay and this unit abuses it to the MAX
@fusionspotara6046
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed MUI is also the most annoying considering everybody using him in a passive gamestyle and not only using that kind of gamestyle if they're doing connection issues then you can't even play at all
@fusionspotara6046
2 жыл бұрын
He might not be the best but he as sure as hell hard to take down
@-galaxy-5076
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. He’s genuinely so annoying to fight. And he promotes without a doubt the WORST playstyle.
@fusionspotara6046
2 жыл бұрын
@@-galaxy-5076 I think Ultra Vegito also promotes that but not fully since one counter uses up his full gauge
@-galaxy-5076
2 жыл бұрын
@@fusionspotara6046 true. I mean, I sorta stopped playing After DF goku, so I’m not completely sure just how OP ultra vegtio actually is.
@danielecigola4679
2 жыл бұрын
Finally a tier list that actually reflects the actual meta situation. Thank you homie
@razielleizargaming
2 жыл бұрын
Hope they make a Villain Ultra from now on and hopefully Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo will be on Legends Festival. Or Early
@Gellato0
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time on Legend History that Top 5 Unit depend on People opinion and no one actually dominating the whole game like FSK/18/VB What cool about this meta is that Top 5 unit need other unit to complete them 1. USV&USG need to be together in order to take completely take down Droid 2. Droid&MUI need Whis for more green card 3. Raiku need Tapion to make his combo longer since both of their green restore bunch of ki But still imo Droid still no.1, USV is so good with that 2 new Equip but he still on had PvP Boost and that make him do crazy damage, kinda need to see him without Boost.. Imo Droid still the most perfect unit on the game along with RRP setup and BBY Fusion the only one who can compete with them (This is only my opinion) We live on balance meta boiisss
@FairyFarron
2 жыл бұрын
I'd put androids above Vegito but he's definitely number 2. You addressed them being interchangeable already though so I don't really have complaints
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
Fr like this tier list is not of teams ,it's of a particular unit itself so if Goresh ranked them as no.2 then it maybe cus of the teams but they don't need anything like that . I just want him to do a 14 star showcase of the droids and see how they destroy everything even without the boost . Bro I have finally reached rank 4k for the 1st time and it's all because of the 4 stars droids . I recently pulled them and gave them all the z power and all , they just shred units with high stars as well . What else is there to say
@Terra157
2 жыл бұрын
@@tammysuper7313 SSBK would be top 3 if this was the case
@marcalvarezps4
2 жыл бұрын
Ultra Super Vegito is just ridiculous. He’s definitely better than androids.
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcalvarezps4 not even close . Androids kit is much better and so is their green. When both droids and DV were on boost SV wasn't even close and when DV comes off the boost he's still not even gonna be close . The counter of his is trash as well and cover change null condition too . Androids can nullify endurance normally so complete counter to him ,they support, reduce vanish, take DBs ,can counter 2 colors as a single unit ,has a ridiculous green ,healing on every card ,vanish restore as well . They have so much going on in their kit and sv don't. He has the cover change combo which is great and his ult as well but rest na ,he ain't beating the droids
@marcalvarezps4
2 жыл бұрын
@@tammysuper7313 He has a counter, healing, free card draw speed, blue card that draws a full hand, endurance, free debuffs, free vanish gauge, situation cover null, crazy green card that can combo after a special cover change. Can the androids get free combos with the green card??? Bro I use SV green card to one shot the androids with the ult.😂😴 That type neutral makes it too easy 😴
@superhumanoid5726
2 жыл бұрын
How is Ultra Gogeta, The unit that's core on arguably the 2 best teams in the game (Fusions and Movies), a Blue and a lock in with 2 dominant reds, the unit with nullify endurance for 30 damn seconds after ultimate with MUI and USV running around at FOUR?? While USV and androids is arguable, i still think android's control over the field makes them the best, tag switch is way too good. Also ssjbkk over Tapion?? ssjbkk has more damage but Tapion is literally better in every single aspect it's not even close and it's not like Tapion has bad damage either it can get high with multiple strike cards. Also putting 2 LoE units over goddamn tapion is just.. A lot of things i don't agree on.
@ctauheedpasha1527
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr it doesn't make any sense. Goresh puts him at number 4 which suprises me even more
@_AnthonyF_
2 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad that SSJ4 Gogeta kinda fell off....i want him back in the meta, he was the most fun unit to use imo
@arthurcosta528
2 жыл бұрын
He is still really good, specially against ultra gogeta.
@_AnthonyF_
2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurcosta528 I'm not saying he isn't good, I'm saying I'm sad he isn't top 10 anymore
@DripJambe
2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurcosta528 cope harder he fell off and is mid.
@arthurcosta528
2 жыл бұрын
He is still an absolute god against revive units
@NateFroge
2 жыл бұрын
What about the ultimate warrior chiaoman? Surely you have to take into account his crazy self explode damage, easily the strongest single card a character possesses in the game. He’s a monster.
@dybeezi
2 жыл бұрын
Don't you dare trigger my PTSD for back when his team was meta... though definitely not as dominant as they once were when ULTRA Mr Popo came out they still destroy me
@NateFroge
2 жыл бұрын
@@dybeezi you just wait for ultra garlic juniour and tag spice/vinegar and tag Mustard/Salt Meta, it’s gonna be the end of dragonball legends.
@MfwPrivate
2 жыл бұрын
I just started playing this game so I don't understand if you guys are joking about Mr Popo being meta
@Julian-mc3tc
2 жыл бұрын
@@MfwPrivate That was before the 2nd anniversary, even before the leader slot update, he was crazy with SP Yamcha on Z warrior. And yet, they still choose to give EX Chaotzu a unique equipement...
@LamarlovesJesus
Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose again put your faith in Christ ..
@despare8198
2 жыл бұрын
Yep that's exactly how I play UI Goku, and it not only makes the match less boring and annoying (it is the reason why I understand Raiyuden's hate for this unit, I also do feel very unamused when people play UI by basically doing...nothing.), but it also is way more effective meta wise. You don't just want to stay back and wait, you want to use that unique gauge and those counters to destabilise your opponent, inflict damage, and find opportunities for combos, as well as keeping UI on the field while having your other characters ready for the rescue/combo extension.
@HereForMma
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly dislike ui goku so much
@trevaughnsmith506
2 жыл бұрын
Win by doing nothing and farming green cards. Absolutely annoying as hell especially since he isn't that good defensively
@ZMB_21
2 жыл бұрын
My hate for mui is unmatched lmao I'd rather face tagdroids with soh and futurehan rather than mui players being passive af
@PajamaDedo
2 жыл бұрын
Idk if I messed up my timing, but I dropped a combo then MUI showed up, he still countered me and dealt alot of damage. Is combo dropping useless when it's just MUI?
@lorddbsgod927
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with u but one thing that u forgot to mention is his automatic win on clashes it is useful but annoying when used on u.
@jessestickell136
2 жыл бұрын
I've said this before in another comment section, but I'll say it again here: I'm a BR 70 player and I run RRP (17/18, MUI, and Whis). I came across a BBY team (USG, VB, USV). I used 17/18 to take out the BLU units 1st, and just when I thought it was over, USV was able to 1v3 my whole team without any issues. He was already good against Whis, but with the neutrality he gains from his green card, he has everything he needs to go against the Androids and MUI. I was genuinely impressed and terrified at the same time. USV is #1 to me now, especially because the Androids have lost their PvP boost. That experience just defined how the meta shifted during his release. I won that match, but USV deserves that spot without question.
@subutaykhan9387
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i am above br 70 too and i 1v3 against fusions with my tagdroids.
@Leo-gi6ob
2 жыл бұрын
Immediately skipped to the Rank 1 spot and I can already tell people will start complaining about how you can only realistically use Vegito's gauge once in a match and how the Androids ruining your day in 1 combo would make them Rank 1 too.
@alekijr.777
2 жыл бұрын
Well i mean,they aren't that out of the line...
@John_Smith_
2 жыл бұрын
Vegito is simply more flexible than 17&18. He can do their same amounts of damage (ult hits harder though), tanks better, goes type neutral easily so he doesn't even need a tag mechanic and heals more sustained damage than them. He only has issues dealing with cover changes due to his ignore being on the counter, but that counter gives him enough time to restore his vanish, something he also does with his main. Did I mention he can get free combos with his green card by using his cover? Well, that's beyond broken.
@Complicated121
2 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith_ Tag mechanic is better than going neutral though....
@liamellisflorez
2 жыл бұрын
@@Complicated121 true, but the whole problem is usg and usv together. They completely shut out droids, although you could make a pretty strong argument that, kit-wise, droids are marginally better than usv.
@__l__-
2 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith_ yea for sv needs his counter to nullify cover. which can easily not happen for the entire match. all droids need is that 1 green card. its criminal ur comparing sv’s damage to droids, droids do far far more damage than sv does, given ur droids have decent equips with pures. droids gets a second combo and their damage is beyond every unit in the game. btw, 18 has a free drop combo with her green card. droids has dragon ball destruction, u literally didnt even mention their dragon ball destruction with the droids.
@OsvaldoCardenas.
2 жыл бұрын
1.PUR TURLES 2.BIDO 3.RED KEFLA 4.RAMOM 5.F2P MAJIN VEGETA 6.HERO HERCULE (MR.SATAN) 7.EX SOLDIERS 8.EX ZANGYA 9.INSTANT TRANSMITION GRN GOKU 10.ULTRA GOGETA This is My list tell me if i forget somebody
@AZ_DBL
2 жыл бұрын
Cmon bro red turles is number 0. Get it right
@Otaku_Sama
2 жыл бұрын
WHY IS THE RED KEFLA BLUE
@OsvaldoCardenas.
2 жыл бұрын
@@Otaku_Sama idk
@ZMB_21
2 жыл бұрын
@@Otaku_Sama because she's has a broken ability that she's 2 colours at once
@codered1132
2 жыл бұрын
@@AZ_DBL Phy Raditz is -1. That’s right, that unit is so powerful he crosses over to another game!
@phoenixfirebird4221
2 жыл бұрын
The two new Gokus, and the ULTRA Fusions are legit nearly equal to one another in terms of meta relevancy, and power when they are 14 stars, and paired in their best teams.
@ndoniii8002
2 жыл бұрын
I swear people think ultra Gogeta is some kind of omnipotent trascended being who rains down destruction on everyone he faces, but he's just a very very strong unit. Yes he's good, him being blue is very good in this meta, but everything he does is not as valuable as you think 100% of the times. Let me explain: -He can tank decently at this point, don't pretend he's not 8 months old. He's not a glass cannon, but he's not the STR ssj3 Vegeta of this game. -His damage is good, not the best anymore, but enough to dispatch of a lot of units in a few cards to fulfill his job, so he's still holding strong in the damage department. -This is what I think polarizes most people's opinion about him: his utility. His utility is solid for a unit designed to mainly do damage, which is what made him the best in the game on release in my opinion. The main argument I see thrown around is that his lock+type nullification makes him the best or second best unit in the game, and I totally disagree. It's a really strong ability don't get me wrong, but it's not guaranteed death for your opponent's unit. The reason is quite simple actually, but most people decide to ignore it: it's an automatic ability, which means your opponent knows just as well as you do what's going to happen. Most people don't play around it, let's be honest, but the best players do. Sometimes you can't, sure, but most of the times you can put yourself in a situation where its effect is decreased or even negligible. That said, I still would personally put him above UI as the third best unit, behind the androids and Vegito. The cover nullification on the green is really strong, the double ult can end matches right away in some situations, combined with the lock and type nullification, but I can see the small gap goresh sees between the second and third place. I don't know who's first honestly, they're really close, so I'll just say they're tied and call it a day, but I really can't see a reason to put Gogeta over Vegito at this point other than on an "easy to use" list. Sorry for the lenghty comment, but it's a rather complex argument.
@kevinkarthik3329
2 жыл бұрын
lock in blast waste enemy vanish rush guaranteed utility oh green? Doesn't matter, element null. Green card in end game is a game changer. It cancels enemy buffs. After ult get endurance nullification DOUBLE ult draw . That is contributing ALOT of damage. special move deletes enemy cards. So after you are done with your combo the enemy cannot combo you back. blast armour is the cherry on top. and gogeta does NOT have pvp boost. vegeto does ssj3 does mui does their stats are inflated . The thing about gogeta is that the unit is not going to get powercrept anytime soon even these many months later cus lock in and element null and all the things that I said are ALWAYS valuable.
@ndoniii8002
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkarthik3329 These abilities are always valuable, but Vegito and the androids also have always valuable abilities: The best green cards in the game, broken tag mechanic to reverse element, near infinite combos that stack damage, near infinite healing, through the roof damage, high defences, rush control when switching to 17, card destruction and ki reduction, endurance null just by existing. Now for Vegito: Cover change into green and combo start with type null and lower cost cards, near infinite combos while stacking debuffs and ki recovery and draw speed, projectile green to take priority, restores vanish with main, counter for stalling if needed, endurance and really high defences with up to 70% damage reduction, heals 10% hp just by getting tapped up to 70%, type null on that nuke of an ult if someone died. Yes he's boosted, but the guy who made a video on Vegitos damage compared to Gogetas was in a friendly match, so Vegito had no boost, was 2 stars lower and not zenkai buffed, and still did more damage. Yes the androids are boosted, but their offences are so high it won't even matter after the first 2 ore 3 cards. They may suffer defensively a bit, but they won't be taking 50% of their health from an attack with type advantage. Gogeta is really good, but those two (three technically) are better.
@jailodha3184
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with your argument. Often times my third unit dies too soon and usv and usg can solo teams easily together
@kevinkarthik3329
2 жыл бұрын
@@ndoniii8002 type null and lock in is an amazing combo. That is what makes gogeta so valuable
@isaacmoore842
2 жыл бұрын
I think everyone knew that the Androids weren't going to be #1 otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to make another list so soon. I disagree but I do believe that people heavily underestimate Ultra Vegito. He's clearly the 2nd best unit in the game but people will insist otherwise.
@wyvurn11977
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I feel some people are just biased toward Gogeta when they argue he is better. Gogeta does almost nothing better than Vegito, and just doesn't dominate matches anymore like Vegito does. Vegito is far better than Gogeta and it isn't really that close
@nim6336
2 жыл бұрын
@@wyvurn11977 bro what?
@wyvurn11977
2 жыл бұрын
@@nim6336 ?
@hello3262
2 жыл бұрын
@@nim6336 he's right. Vegito does more damage, tanks better, has more utility etc. People overestimate gogetas lock-in so much, I just play around it but swapping prematurely and it barely does anything. I think he's no.3 below droids and USV.
@kevinkarthik3329
2 жыл бұрын
@@wyvurn11977 almost nothing better!! The value of lock in plus element null and drawing ANOTHER ult is too much. The blue card is straight up better. Vegito has problems with reliable cover change null. Gogeta get's it on every green card. There are ALOT of things going for gogeta that are not for vegito. On using ult gogeta get's ignore endurance also.
@diamond0044
2 жыл бұрын
18&17 is #1 for me. They’re just insane and can easily beat every other unit in the game :)
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
That's true
@dblkai2422
2 жыл бұрын
USV doesn't have a decent anti cover change, in this meta that's essential. That's why i don't think he's number 1, imo he's top 3-4 behind droids mui and usg
@1up910
2 жыл бұрын
You should do gameplay footage of each character while you talk about them, it makes the video more informative and entertaining
@baldheadedcape5771
2 жыл бұрын
Where is turles
@mayounez7242
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who actually uses the androids and fought a lot of USV I can say for sure that I think they're better in most cases. the fact that they nullify endurance just for living is prob one of if not the best counter to USV, which you see in every match nowadays. their green card effect is just absurd, It makes them do way more damage than usual and lets them dominate without worrying from anything, plus it lets them continue their combos and get closer to tag switching (which I think should not happen but who am I to judge, I use them). The tag mechanic is just OP, you can never always have someone who will tank their combos because of their tag mechanic, plus It gives them wayyy too many buffs and in combination with the green card they can tag switch up to 2-3 times a combo, which makes them hit harder than a truck on her way to isekai someone. Overall I think they're damage output and defense is kind of on the same level of ULV (maybe not so much the defenses but it's somewhat close) but they have all of the other affects that make them, in my opinion better than him.
@mayounez7242
2 жыл бұрын
Btw I am not saying I particularly disagree with Goresh's opinion, USV is still a manace to society and I think that he'll actually age out better than the dorids, but in the current meta I just think the androids are better.
@HereForMma
2 жыл бұрын
@@mayounez7242 I disagree
@codered1132
2 жыл бұрын
@@mayounez7242 I respectfully disagree. Personally I think both USV and USG on a ssj team outclass the androids
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@codered1132 that's just a counter to BBP . PO or droids on Loe can solo them even on ssj team . U still need both UG and SV to counter 1 unit . Isn't that more than enough reason to prove who's better. Both UG and USV's abilities doesn't even come close to the droids
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@HereForMma well then u overhype sv . His kit isn't even close to the droids
@Natso_1
2 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think are the chances that one of the first three Ultra units get a Zenkai? They're not horrible and when they came out they were pretty good units, but now they obviously aren't as relevant and good. What would a Zenkai look like for an Ultra unit? It's just some questions I have.
@FortniteSexgamer6969
2 жыл бұрын
ULTRA Nameku is older than BLU SSB Goku and PUR Zamasu when they got their Zenkai
@Julian-mc3tc
2 жыл бұрын
@@FortniteSexgamer6969 Ultra Goku released in april 2021, zenkai SSB Goku in november 2020, zenkai Zamasu in november 2021. So UG is ~1y 3months old; Goku was 2yo 6months old before zenkaing, same for zamasu. 🤓
@FortniteSexgamer6969
2 жыл бұрын
@@Julian-mc3tc SSB Goku Zenkai'd before black friday of 2020 and released june of 2019. Same for Zamasu, just one year later for his release and Zenkai
@ayo4773
2 жыл бұрын
Prob broken
@Julian-mc3tc
2 жыл бұрын
@@FortniteSexgamer6969 you're right, I can't believe the 1st anniv was only in 2019. I hope they won't butcher Ultra Goku when he gets his zenkai
@th3-nightdash524
2 жыл бұрын
You are wrong yellow turles is the definitive best unit in the game. No other unit comes close the buff he gets on his ult makes him supreme.
@LexoG33
2 жыл бұрын
With Ultra Vegito having endurance, and Angel Golden Frieza and Revival Frieza being so valuable in almost any match, I feel like FP Frieza has gone up in value. Being able to combo for so long with Golden Frieza allows you to run out the substitution count and get FP back in to rush and nullify endurance. And having gotten the shaft instead of Ultra Vegito, I've been dumping all my LL multi z power into FP Frieza over MUI because I just have more success playing with LoE than any other team. The team just needs 1 final piece: red LL Mecha Frieza...
@rimouskiii
2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely hope Mecha Frieza doesn't get an LL unit. He was on screen for like 2 episodes.
@LexoG33
2 жыл бұрын
@@rimouskiii So what, he'd be hype. Gogeta literally only had like 40 seconds of screen time over a 23 year span
@rimouskiii
2 жыл бұрын
@@LexoG33 but of course a fusion between the 2 most popular characters is gonna be hype. Plus he did new stuff that hadn't been seen yet unlike Mecha Frieza. All he did was stab a henchman with his hand, laugh, and throw a supernova before he died
@Itachi-bs5md
2 жыл бұрын
For me it's droids,usv,usg,mui, dragon fist
@AdrienPosadas
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@KodmaniacX
2 жыл бұрын
Great list. Love to see my boy Tapion getting some respect here.
@robyreina6744
2 жыл бұрын
For me the droids are undoubtedly top 1 in the game , Ultra Vegito is extremely good but he only has that green card against cover changes which makes him combo for not as long as you would want him to be. on the other hand the androids are still broken as they literally do anything such as removing vanish , nullifing endurance just by existing, they have an op green card etc . But that's just my opinion
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
I agree . Ppl overhype Vegito soooo much . He's extremely good but not at all the best unit in game . The main reason is the boost as well which makes him do more damage
@techpule5508
2 жыл бұрын
Super true
@subutaykhan9387
2 жыл бұрын
@@tammysuper7313 thats correct. I regret spending 24k CC for ult SV because i have no problem facing him. Droids are more intimitating than him
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@subutaykhan9387 ya like he's not bad or anything, he's still the 2nd best unit but thr main reason ppl might fear him is when u pair him up with UG . Those 2 together are dangerous and that too at high stars . A 5 stars SV and UG are no doubt strong but a 3 stars droids can destroy them if they get a green to start a combo . I tried to pull DF Goku ,9 rotations and got 1 Tapion only ( my biggest shaft ever) ,did 2 rotations on SV and didn't pull even a lf then when the droids banner cam back I just used all my cc ,did 1 rotation and got droids on the free step and they're just 4 stars but they have made me reach rank 4k and mostly I just rank around 8k or 9k and if 1 unit can do that then I can't even tell how broken they are
@syed2187
2 жыл бұрын
i think it will be harder to face the androids because they are much easier to use than ultra vegito but with ultra vegito there's so much u can do and with the androids will get 1 combod by any usable characters that are neutral against them and im pretty sure if both were 14 stars usv can just one shot with his type neutral ult and usv is probably one of the few characters that can tank a powered up ult from dragon fist
@twicesaurus
2 жыл бұрын
Androids are still the number one for me, followed up by ultra super vegito. Mui and ultra gogeta are kinda tied, but I will put mui in number 3 while ultra gogeta in number 4.
@bites_kira2120
2 жыл бұрын
Ug is 3 cause he technically counter driods
@twicesaurus
2 жыл бұрын
@@bites_kira2120 well technically mui counter usv..
@bites_kira2120
2 жыл бұрын
@@twicesaurus driods more of a menace
@twicesaurus
2 жыл бұрын
@@bites_kira2120 maybe, it just my personal opinion after all. Mui actually has a really good offense and defense, combined with his unique gauge and reduced damage received + nullify cover change for 30 timer counts, he is slightly higher than ultra super gogeta. I had more difficulties fighting mui than ultra gogeta, but it doesn't mean that ultra gogeta is bad. Don't forget that androids could switch and counters usg back
@natixityy
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's just me, but I think the droids are the best in terms of output, but ultra gogeta is better in terms of meta. I'm biased because gogeta is my favorite character, but I think he's the best card in the game
@franklinhollands7425
2 жыл бұрын
I do agree ultra gogeta is messed up! I love his unique gauge and even at just 5 stars, one single copy can do so much damage
@adem1829
2 жыл бұрын
Droids have the better kit overall, but they’re usually put in leader spot for other teams, since android team doesn’t have good units. UG, in the other hand, is a solid unit for months who has access to fusion team, arguably the best team in the game.
@RatkoStojinovic
2 жыл бұрын
L
@natixityy
2 жыл бұрын
@@franklinhollands7425 I pulled 2 copies of him and he just completely shreds everything. I one shot an angel golden frieza type neutral on my alt. The AGF was at like 98% hp as well. Insanity.
@thughunter3728
2 жыл бұрын
Easily. When i use him, he is literally surviving rushes and hitting hard! Locking in, drawing 2 ults, blast armor, you feel really comfortable using him. Very good for late game too
@sanjaynambisan2538
2 жыл бұрын
For me I honestly don’t even think it’s close between the droids and anyone else the droids do way more damage than anyone else and defensively they’re one of the better units tho most units can’t tank these days. They have the best green cards can do infinite combos their ramp up is stupid they destroy dragon balls they support they do way too much. I think usg usv and mui r pretty close and interchangeable cos they all offer rlly good strengths but their strengths r so different to each other so I feel that’s more preference w those 3. I think cell is 6th his damage is top 2-3 and PO w cell droids and tapion is a top 3-5 team. Df still nuts as well the top is rlly strong but below the top 10-20 it’s a big drop off. Also I wouldn’t put revza or ssbk top 10 cos revza I think ssb vegeta and rn vb have more value and for ssbk he ain’t core on god ki cos the best god ki team doesn’t need him and uss ain’t great individually he’s great but he’s not in a great spot
@supervegito7902
2 жыл бұрын
Defensively they are not among the best. If they get caught in a combo, they go down very fast.
@ProtoFriglacial
2 жыл бұрын
@@supervegito7902 Vouch bro. I use the Androids (6 Stars) and even with Type Advantage, the units nowadays are so stupidly strong they can get taken down quick
@HereForMma
2 жыл бұрын
Whole essay for vegito to still be better
@adambrown5226
2 жыл бұрын
@@HereForMma Tagdroid green card >>> Vegito's entire kit. Also Vegito still has his boost
@lelouchvibritagna2997
2 жыл бұрын
@@HereForMma cap
@ADSR.682
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why revival freza is considered good Mine is on 7 stars And his first life gets folded very quickly
@oblivion5993
2 жыл бұрын
Because Frieza is Goresh favorite Characters thats why, He is Kinda Glass Canon like Revivehan
@chillkid007
2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard during the intro explanation. Explain why I'm dumb was too funny. 😂😂 Your humor is always so dead funny.
@EmZee_Edits
2 жыл бұрын
3:46 you can nullify tapions death attack by red Majin vegitas ult
@rakosinorbert8001
2 жыл бұрын
I would switch places between the androids and Vegito, because the androids could turn Vegito inside out anytime, and his endurence basically doesen't exist for them, and the androids has much more gimmicks than Vegito.
@TheWitheredSoul
2 жыл бұрын
I will say I am a little biased towards the Androids and I do think instead of giving Fusion Warriors another buff they should have given the buff to other teams. And another thing the featured boost doesn't really help when ranking these units. Something that shouldn't exist in the way it does but there's nothing that can be done about it either
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
Featured boost is good for some units that aren't released extremely good . Like just imagine FP Jiren on release was Z tier ,he wasn't that great but atleast the boost gave him his moment to shine . It's not bad but in ranking view it's trash. The 20% damage and 15% defense doesn't look much but combined with those broken units it's a lot . Once sv gets down the boost ,the droids would shred him. That green card is just wayyyy too good and the endurance null is amazing as well
@sanjaynambisan2538
2 жыл бұрын
Androids will get a huge buff soon enough whether it’s a tag gamma 1 and 2 or something like that or cell max
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjaynambisan2538 ya thats true as well . The Androids team has 2 really good units being the tag and cell ,all they need is 1 more solid unit and that team can become a menace
@2crisp63
2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjaynambisan2538 dont think they'd add cell max, unless it's like how they did taipon
@spark5010
2 жыл бұрын
I agree Most of the things but me personally would Swap MUI and USG cause USG can easily comeback from any situation whereas MUI gets hardcountered when there is a strong blue against him
@spark5010
2 жыл бұрын
@AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH No I mean USG can go type neutral when an ally is dead and easily kill off any green unit where as MUI in a similar situation will have a roughtime dealing with Blue units
@Desxire
2 жыл бұрын
@AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH good damage, but gogeta can still do more toward greens so he still counters element better which was his point
@xoi69
2 жыл бұрын
@AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH it's just due to the meta tbh ultra gogeta is def better than mui no doubt on that but this meta wise it's pretty arguable
@Xenokhaos
2 жыл бұрын
Actually using red units rn its horrible at least on my experiences, I face USG and VB every 2 matches, I had to change MUI to Ryuken on my saiyans team
@MfwPrivate
2 жыл бұрын
I think the Reason USV is so good is because of his unnatural speed. He's the closest thing in this game to how DBFZ Combos work. His gimmick revolves around making you say "I DOWNLOADED THIS GAME, SO LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING GAME"
@themusesmurderer
2 жыл бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh! - The Duelists of The Roses song in the beginning, many good memories 😌
@Jonassaurus
2 жыл бұрын
i like your video even from the start, because the intro backsound is from duelist of the roses..👍👍
@jrsantos7147
2 жыл бұрын
Where is raspberry . I honestly think his damage output is absolutely crazy as an ex red unit. I also found out that he’s very good for dealing with ultra vegito. (Yes I’m trolling but he is still really good if u put him with his ex friends and his defenses ain’t too bad imo)
@Julian-mc3tc
2 жыл бұрын
"his defenses ain’t too bad imo" bro he's the best defensive unit in the game
@Jaykassa
2 жыл бұрын
Mr.Goresh I'm quite satisfied with this tier list even though it didn't have Ramon or Copyman in it. Thumbs up from me
@RedShadowAMV
2 жыл бұрын
I think my biggest issue with the list would be how high hero Tapion is, i would seriously put him above SSBKK or Revival Frieza. The general value he provides through his support, the damage he can dish out and in some instances the way he can turn entire games around in your favour through his final counter are genuine make or break assets and less replaceable than what Revza or SSBKK can offer. Not to mention unlike revival frieza his death offers free damage without any penalties from enemy passives
@Adios1012
2 жыл бұрын
Imo usg should be 3rd Usv 2nd And droids ofc first Mui 4rth Mui vs usg isn't like not close at all Mui is pretty close too
@Itachi-bs5md
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you like I've seen people say usg is no.1 but your list is valid
@ItachiUchiha1958
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't find that hard fighting the androids I find usv usg and mui more annoying than the androids but i agree that usg should be 3rd or 2nd he's definitely the best unit to make a comeback imo
@Adios1012
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItachiUchiha1958 yea Android's might not be hard to deal with But just use em once You won't be able to think of anybody being better My lucky mf friend have droids usg and usv Equal stars 5* / 4* He always praises droids as best v: Droids kit are just superior
@Adios1012
2 жыл бұрын
@@Itachi-bs5md yea man They are overestimating gogeta Tbh nothing new people overestimating gogeta Like bro no way people seriously debate about usg vs androids
@Itachi-bs5md
2 жыл бұрын
@@Adios1012 I'm just happy that my favorite fusion is at least number 2
@a_bush
2 жыл бұрын
"Until 5th ann." Do not forget what you said about VB, the game should have taken until 5th ann. to surpass him, but it happened only months afterwards of his first release.
@hurricane7626
2 жыл бұрын
yeah
@Donkie2k
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like after the boost vegito is getting he’ll be top 3 and androids number 1
@The_Dark_Red_GamingClub
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care if people disagree with the Top 2 for the tag androids, I hate them so much that i’m so happy the fall a little and one of my favorite character is top 1!!! Let’s GO
@damo12x
2 жыл бұрын
Game press are fools for putting Vegito below MUI and SSJ3 💀
@mJ-raqs
2 жыл бұрын
With The Current Level Of How PowerCreep Has Been Going, I'm Not Gonna Be Surprised At All Come Legends Festival The Top 5 units Goresh Has Ranked Doesn't Even Come Close To The Legends Festival Units.
@legendarvelo3206
2 жыл бұрын
Still got Ultra Gogeta number one. And LF Jiren Top 10
@Desxire
2 жыл бұрын
Lf jiren 😂
@legendarvelo3206
2 жыл бұрын
@@Desxire LF Jiren go BURRRRRR
@Sporkyfk
2 жыл бұрын
"Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."
@TheSophic
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love how all these Tag Android mains are sitting here and trying to say Goresh's opinion is wrong yet he has been God Rank for the past 16 seasons? While these Android mains haven't even probably hit God Rank once, if anyone knows what they're talking about it's definitely Goresh
@adambrown5226
2 жыл бұрын
Goresh also said that #1 and #2 are interchangeable. Meaning that when Ultra Vegito loses his boost, Goresh will think that Tagdroids are #1 again
@CMX_Gaia
2 жыл бұрын
Man..im just imagining the androids when there plat equip drops xD
@calits2
2 жыл бұрын
This is a HUGE W, The Androids being number 2 it’s a W haha I love this top
@zachman8256
2 жыл бұрын
Goresh I think it would be cool if you also did top 5 best teams
@yosh1323
2 жыл бұрын
So because dragon fist shreds usg he's lower, but because vegito obviously tanks droids and mui, he's top 1?
@wanted2657
2 жыл бұрын
Tanks, better utility (endurance c.c into green. Long asf conbos) , and equal if not superior dmg to usg
@yosh1323
2 жыл бұрын
@@wanted2657 tanking no, usg has proper zenkai buffers, better teams, better utility as he becomes the most oppressive unit in the game once an ally dies, constantly draws blues and destroys your deck for free, 2 ult cards that do devastating damage, usg is top 2 in worst case scenario
@Sporkyfk
2 жыл бұрын
@@wanted2657 I agree 100%.
@mikeshark8869
2 жыл бұрын
@@yosh1323 wdym "tanking no"? He's a boosted ultra defense type with endurance that heals himself several times after he gets hit. You literally just run him and USG together so he's covering the 18 side of droids. What better teams? Vegito and Gogeta together is core whether you're doing fusions or BBY. Literally what are you talking about
@yosh1323
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeshark8869 movies is another team gogeta has above usv, and usv healing is situational, he needs to take hits from which he can still die from, all usg needs to do is use cards to heal, and usg sustains himself 2x better
@richiekasiram9601
2 жыл бұрын
Ayy let's go
@ok-gh3jt
2 жыл бұрын
Wish he did a list like this for zenkais.
@raheemegbebi5851
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I enjoyed watching he tierlist but next time can u pls add some gameplay of the character ur talking about so it’d more interesting to watch
@justadonut1
2 жыл бұрын
Once Usg gets his tag plat equip (not character plat) he will be a monster.
@TRIGGER11819
2 жыл бұрын
Goresh can we get a monthly video showing off your top teams you’re using along side your monthly top ten units
@zunnurainroslie4605
2 жыл бұрын
24:51 *Question* Does it mean that strike & blast damage also amplify the ultimate? like you can see the ult damage difference based on the stars but while in the stats, the level is still the same despite on how many stars you get them
@broken_vegito1538
2 жыл бұрын
No His Blast And Strike Attack Implify themselves
@matthewbutler-boucher1405
2 жыл бұрын
I really think though to fully grasp how good these characters are we have to wait until they aren't being boosted in PvP
@theriotclan8744
2 жыл бұрын
For the top 5, I think that it is: 1) Vegito 2) Gogeta 3) Tag 17-18 4) MUI 5) Dragon Fist Vegito is just good. I think that without the boost system buff Gogeta does more damage and counters the androids well. The androids are good. MUI and Dragon Fist are good but not as good as these three
@Sporkyfk
2 жыл бұрын
My exact top 5 as well
@_luffyclears
2 жыл бұрын
Gogeta ain’t better than the droids vegito is arguable 💀
@Saikyo-no-Fusion-da
2 жыл бұрын
@@_luffyclears gogeta is also arguable
@lorddbsgod927
2 жыл бұрын
Hey goresh, u forgot one about mui, his dokabaki win is very useful 👍and it garentees a free combo but when it is used against ne it is annoying
@AntagonistAndy
2 жыл бұрын
I think with the proper equips ultra gogeta still goes crazy
@YoiThatBoi
2 жыл бұрын
I like how typically defense types are always treated poorly and don't last very long in the meta (SSB Vegeta) but then you turn around and find that the best unit in the game is a defense type (Ultra Super Vegito). I just thought this was funny and kinda ironic lmao
@user-ez5jp6fb7d
2 жыл бұрын
Gogeta 4 was the best in the game for a while too
@edoardobejera371
2 жыл бұрын
You should do a EX Minions tier list
@colalegends0.065
2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to put mui in number 4 but after seeing gogeta I was like finally someone understand me😭😭😭
@kevinkarthik3329
2 жыл бұрын
remember Vegeto, dragonfist, mui have the pvp buff. That's a lot of inflated defence and offense you're talking about. Gogeta lost it eons ago and still is godly and droids just lost it so let's see how well they fair(I feel they would be glass cannons but let's see)
@pbnj9057
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah remember when blue bros were doing insane damage but when they got removed from the pvp boost they fell off heavy
@darkice3267
2 жыл бұрын
@@pbnj9057 They still do Insane damage. The reason you think they ""fell off"" is because Mono Purple started getting countered around the time they fell off boost. Without access to 4 Zenkai buffs of course they'll do less damage. Nothing to do with the boost. The Androids still do so much damage without boost.
@xoi69
2 жыл бұрын
@@darkice3267 not really they fell of really hard
@miahmoxe9553
2 жыл бұрын
I have 4 main F2P Gogeta,8 star mui goku,tapion,and future trucks with mutiple zenkai boost on future trunks
@Izzy2Fool
2 жыл бұрын
I think y'all are forgetting this man has all units at 14 stars best equipment he is the ultimate whale. You can't tell him he's wrong when you aren't able to experience it for yourself.
@Izzy2Fool
2 жыл бұрын
And personally. Usv>Usg. Gogeta better character tho
@gamerumar6849
2 жыл бұрын
@@Izzy2Foolin your opinion gogeta is a better character
@lokkj1641
2 жыл бұрын
@@Izzy2Fool droids >> both
@Desxire
2 жыл бұрын
Its opinion based so you can tell him anything lmao
@Izzy2Fool
2 жыл бұрын
@@lokkj1641 droids died after boost system. They getting one shot by MUI ultimate
@lokkj1641
2 жыл бұрын
Revive frieza is not even close to top 10, the loe team fell off. agf i can see being on the list because he cucks USG but revive frieza does literal 0 damage and can't tank shit.
@zaito2558
2 жыл бұрын
My take 1/2 is interchangeable 1)ultra gogeta, he just fell of a bit but that’s only because he didn’t have a partner but because of ultra vegito every weakness he has is gone, then again his only weakness was defense against droids 2) ultra vegito his weakness is that cover null is only in his counter in which you have to properly utilize soo in the future the more we get double counter or bojack like counter he will loose that flare he has since right now ui is the only one that can really counter his long combo. 3) droids they’re still good just can’t beat 1/2 if they’re in the same team 4/5 interchangeable 4) fist goku, when he has full gauge or just play good he can easily easily 1v3 any team thanks to that card draw speed, and if you have gauge you can basically choose which character to rush, 5) ui goku, ui players rely to much on Gauge that it’s pretty predictable, and he relies too much on alive team mates because you want his gauge up at all times soo if you have 1 member down and the other at cool down, you get caught in a combo, then boom 1 ult your practically dead from full from fist goku/ gogeta/vegito, or in 1v1 only time your winning is if your type advantage, fist goku pop main your dead, gogeta can tank all that hit and after that kill you, vegito double vanish boom ult
@Elhboy
2 жыл бұрын
I think that UG should be higher then Mui because the androids and Mui are in basically every single match and the fact that UG can have at least one red unit to counter every single match makes him better then mui in my opinion. Obviously USV is in a lot of matches too but I just feel like a red unit doesn't have as much value against USV as any other yellow unit because USV can go type neutral a lot with his green card and his ult so although Mui might have type advantage a lot while attacking him, he won't have type advantage when tanking his combos a lot of the times.(this comment is coming from someone who runs BBY fusions with the two ultras and vegito blue so maybe I'm downplaying how devastating the androids can be with the switch)
@chidubemdimanochie9520
2 жыл бұрын
You should make tier list of hardest hitting attack in the game
@vera2892
2 жыл бұрын
1. Ssj3 dragon fist goku
@trysomething02
2 жыл бұрын
@@vera2892 2. Sword of Hope Trunks
@drewyt-2471
2 жыл бұрын
Imo ultra gogeta is still one of strongest units in the game he has the best comeback mechanic in the entire game let it’s a 1v3 you just killed tapion and ULG last man he one shots both of your units with an ult and then a rush boom just like that he won
@danku5423
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like the only reason anyone can put usv above the droids is teams the only really good teams the droids are on is future and red red purple while usv is at super saiyans giving him bardock buffs he is on saiyans with a crap ton of units and he is an ultra meaning he can pretty much be ran in any team with his broken ultra ability while the droids don’t have such an op leader skill I feel like in an 1v1 scenario the droids would win while in teams usv wins but it’s also about the pvp boost so after they both start losing that then we will see their true power
@zoraxseven6522
2 жыл бұрын
Teams don't really matter anymore because of the leader slot. You can slap 17 and 18 on any team and they will carry.
@atpr3241
2 жыл бұрын
I think SV Defensively is great but Endurance and the healing are just small add ons imo. Every character in the top 5 can nullify his endurance and have the capacity to one shot him if you're not careful(like any character besides Revives). So I look at what he brings offensively and he falls slightly shorts of the Androids.
@tammysuper7313
2 жыл бұрын
Atleast ur not overrating DV . So I respect ur opinion
@fusionspotara6046
2 жыл бұрын
Remember characters with Permanent Anti Endurance gets treated poorly with their offense and defense stats well Androids was the big difference because if you guys take a look on LL Full Power Frieza LL Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black they have like poor offense and defense stats it's like they're just supporting the team while not doing too much damage and not tanking much damage at all
@oztheimmortal
2 жыл бұрын
The fact Vegito can cover change into his green card and get a full combo for GETTING HIT is enough to warrant being the best in the game. I don't know any other character who gains full advantage for getting hit. Run Vegito with z7 Bardock, and there isn't a single character IN THE GAME who can reliably tank him and come out not in pieces
@assafsharabi4473
2 жыл бұрын
I think the androids are better and even goresh said it would be another androids situation which means even he believes the droids shatter the world of db more than vigito
@supervegito7902
2 жыл бұрын
You misunderstood that. If vegito got cover null, he would be doing the best things the androids have in their kit on top of his broken kit. He would be by far the best unit in the game and as goresh already mentioned it would break the game. Imagine if he had cover null with his already endless combos while debuffing the enemy, how do you stop him?
@Cuozyyy
2 жыл бұрын
i will never get why people hate on ssbkk goku. he is great and always have been.
@Dippa1991
2 жыл бұрын
Can u do top 10 f2p zenkais next
@foodisall1206
2 жыл бұрын
I also agree with vegito being number one but personally I think ultra gogeta is better then androids, everytime I fight the fusion's it's a terrible time but I dint have much if a bad time fighting androids I also think the blue boys should be top ten
@deddytor4834
2 жыл бұрын
bro what?! Androids are a million times better than ultra gogeta
@foodisall1206
2 жыл бұрын
@@deddytor4834 ok but like I said I've never really had a hard time fighting androids then how hard its been fighting gogeta
@Saikyo-no-Fusion-da
2 жыл бұрын
@@foodisall1206 me neither when i saw goresh puttinf droids in the first place last time i waa like what they are not that hard to deal with
@xoi69
2 жыл бұрын
@@deddytor4834 millions times lol well they are billion times better than every unit actually
@foodisall1206
2 жыл бұрын
@@xoi69 not vegito
@spider-cosysusfrikadas3534
2 жыл бұрын
You guys have any idea of when could super vegito return? I expent a lot of cc but I still didn't get him 😓
@legadosayajin190
2 жыл бұрын
My team at the moment are vados, goku mui and androids and i swear that i've never felt this good with a team before hahaha androids are kinda broken
@senortorres9833
2 жыл бұрын
You are not gonna tell me revival frieza is better than ssbkk 😐
@akaShalon23
2 жыл бұрын
I just realize something, if those 6 characters are on your honorable mention list then make a video with those characters against pvp for fun
@TRIGGER11819
2 жыл бұрын
What’s the song in the background with UI
@ninjabros6282
2 жыл бұрын
@Goresh I love how you say it's your opinion as if it still isn't going to cause shit for all those watching to start a argument or what not that's like making a Tier List but it's based on what you think is good meanwhile in the background there is like a full on Civil War going on to see who deserves the Godly Tier or something along those lines
@ninjabros6282
2 жыл бұрын
Oh and that goes for Twitter too so careful over on Twitter man shit can go from 1 to 1000 really fast
@danielashiru5363
2 жыл бұрын
Ultra gogeta still can catch you in 1v3 situations
@franklinhollands7425
2 жыл бұрын
Love your content! Keep being you my dude and keep going strong!
@dr.tacophd1239
2 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion but I still believe Androids are number 1. USV hasn’t given me as much as a problem as those two.
@rudyprieto3743
2 жыл бұрын
Really never had too much issues with the androids especially If you can avoid 18 you win all day
@zawills7571
2 жыл бұрын
The fact usg hasn't gotten power crept kinda amazes me
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