Thank you for sharing the journey of our Dream Chaser spaceplane. We look forward to the launch of Tenacity!
@DawnPetrichor1
3 ай бұрын
Heya, nice to see your organization interacting with the community. I’m just starting to learn about Dream Chaser, I’d previously only vaguely heard about it, but it seems like an interesting concept! I’d previously dismissed it as another project with way-too-high ambitions, but it’s looking good, as far as I can tell, and the mission goals seem pretty solid. To DreamChaser!
@tesarus8461
Жыл бұрын
This Soviet system is quite unique. It used metal for heat shielding and ceramic joints (hinges of special design) in order to isolate cold volume inside of the ship from hot metal shielding.
@wallissimpson5414
Жыл бұрын
Smart
@Astronomy_Live
Жыл бұрын
Another test pilot who was slated to fly Dyna-Soar was Albert Crews. He still volunteers as a docent at the Sands Space History Center just outside the gates of CCSFS and I highly recommend taking a tour if you ever happen to be in the area. He was also chosen as an astronaut for the MOL program before it too was cancelled. Really fascinating individual to talk to if you happen to run into him at the museum. Honestly, most of the docents have worked at the Cape in some capacity and all have great stories to tell.
@mfzb0912
Жыл бұрын
Hey I follow your channel!
@maartentoors
Жыл бұрын
As a long time sub to Scott, I have to reiterate that the quality and editing is always mind-blowing (not even going into the depth of research). Thank you Scott. Fly Safe.
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
Жыл бұрын
glad he finally started levelling the intro and outro with the video audio levels. I can actually enjoy them instead of furiously hitting the dislike button.
@maartentoors
Жыл бұрын
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Nice comment, you earned this comment, mostly.. eh?
@jd3nn1s
Жыл бұрын
all while having a full time job!!
@varandor
Жыл бұрын
I think that his son does the editing now, I'm pretty sure Scott tweeted about it once
@maartentoors
Жыл бұрын
@@varandor Thanks for the update, in that case; Kudos to Manley jr.!
@GURken
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that in 2005 when Mark Sirangelo (CEO of SpaceDev at the time) visited Russia, he made a promise that, when Dream Chaser was finished, he would put the names of the Russian team that worked on BOR program right next to those of the American teams.
@Julius_Hardware
Жыл бұрын
Good for him 👍 . Next time somebody says Buran was a shuttle rip-off, I'll mention the MiG 105
@jlangevin65
Жыл бұрын
@@Julius_Hardware Completely different - did you even watch the video? Buran and the shuttle weren't lifting-body aircraft.
@Julius_Hardware
Жыл бұрын
@@jlangevin65 Of course I did. I was comparing the Shuttle -> Buran debate to Sirangelo correctly and generously crediting the BOR team for their contribution to the design. I could have talked about pianos instead to make the same point. The shuttle and Buran did generate lift from their fuselage shape.
@sanchorim8014
Жыл бұрын
@@Julius_Hardware There's a debate? Buran is clearly based on Shuttle. I still find it funny that the Soviets decided that the American vehicle was so ridiculous that we wouldn't use it unless we knew something they didn't, and decided to copy that. Talk about overestimating your opponent. But Buran had autonomous flight and 10 person seating, so it had some improvements over Shuttle.
@aladik2010
Жыл бұрын
NOT "russia", UKRAINIANS maked all rockets in concentration camp named "ussr"
@savel6462
Жыл бұрын
Still the most beautifully named spacecraft out there
@ammosophobia
Жыл бұрын
Enterprise? Jk
@martythemartian99
Жыл бұрын
My favorite was Snoopy (or possibly Gumdrop) :)
@odysseusrex5908
Жыл бұрын
I liked both Kitty Hawk and Antares (Apollo 14)
@davisdf3064
Жыл бұрын
Dyna-Soar is really cool though
@htopherollem649
Жыл бұрын
@@davisdf3064 Dyna Soars was a character that used to be on Garbagepail Kids stickers (collectable stickers, in baseball card form, that were a spoof of Cabbage Patch Kids)
@jamindowney3662
Жыл бұрын
What I love is that the scifi show 'Farscape' even modeled this and showed it off. got to love when real world concepts end up in scifi
@mattmanyam
Жыл бұрын
Almost as cool as sci-fi stuff ending up in the real world...
@softdorothy
Жыл бұрын
"Journey to the Far Side of the Sun" was way ahead of Farscape.
@Kineth1
Жыл бұрын
It looks just like Kryten's module.
@williamduffy1227
Жыл бұрын
@@softdorothy ... and don't forget Ironman 1 from the movie "Marooned".
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
Жыл бұрын
Why have you GOT to love it? Sounds like paid advertisement BS appealing to the uninitiated, to me. I'd prefer my "fi" not be beaten with a reality stick.
@FandersonUfo
Жыл бұрын
God speed Dream Chaser
@anekdoche7055
Жыл бұрын
amen
@SierraSpace
Жыл бұрын
❤
@transformersloverjon
Жыл бұрын
Godspeed* All one word.
@FandersonUfo
Жыл бұрын
@@transformersloverjon - you're lucky I spelled Chaesr correctly
@jaysmith3495
Жыл бұрын
I've been really excited about dream chaser ever since their drop test in 2017. I really hope their first flight goes well.
@chrisspamtest
Жыл бұрын
ok, but what do wings do in space? you know starwars is fictional
@jaysmith3495
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisspamtest this was a pretty rude comment. It’s a lifting body, doesn’t really have wings, just control surfaces. It’s also obviously designed for LEO so the added mass isn’t as significant as something designed for deep space.
@cadennorris960
10 ай бұрын
@@chrisspamtestUnbelievably dumb question
@GenaTrius
Жыл бұрын
I really hope Dream Chaser finds lots of success, though really only because of my nostalgia for the shuttle. I grew up on the space coast, and that beautiful black and white bird was plastered on everything. Everyone used to be so proud to even be part of the support structure for the people who made those things fly. I have no control over what systems get used for future spaceflight missions, but I hope they involve lots more tiled lifting bodies.
@wilboersma9441
Жыл бұрын
Same! I relate to that so much. The Shuttle gets bashed by so many people so often who can only see the price tag and say that "it's refurbishable, not reusable" which is true, but they just can't appreciate it's affect on people's imaginations and their way of viewing space. Space went from something only highly-trained professional test pilots can do, to something you can literally "hop on a shuttle" nd go to a space station. It will forever be the first true spaceship.
@keiyakins
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the biggest problem with the shuttle is the enormous cost and juuust enough refurbishability meant we couldn't really iterate on them.
@wilboersma9441
Жыл бұрын
@@keiyakins Yeah, once the shuttle was operational they never got enough funding to make them better, no "Shuttle V2" or an Energya-like launch vehicle. Hopefully Starship can escape the same fate because now private companies are doing the developing in a competitive atmosphere, not a political vacuum (see what I did there).
@Blaze6108
Жыл бұрын
Well, while lifting bodies are harder to make than classical rockets, they do have the advantage of being able to land without having to waste 30-40% of their delta-v on retropropulsion. So in the future, when advanced materials and shapes become more practiceable, they might become more commonplace.
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
A reply to another comment about using ‘outdated’ tech: That’s a good point. It’s a little sad to hear so many criticize the DC, and fault the Shuttle’s safety record due to it’s design, which just isn’t true. The Challenger o-ring issue and Columbia’s foam issue seem more related to installation and operational problems, poor assumptions…you obviously know the story. But to criticize the Dream Chaser for using tiles and ‘old’ manufacturing techniques that are based on prior NASA and Shuttle evolution and experience is just ignorant of safety and reliability first, over cutting edge and using technology that, while great and seems to be working well, just doesn’t have the maturity of all the DC is using. OK, I’m off my high horse. Actually, I’m a SpaceX fanboy and think they’ve done and are doing phenomenal work; same w RocketLab, Firefly, now Relativity, Orbital, even Astra - hopefully they can get back on track. But no one at NASA is going to risk their careers (and manslaughter charges) by ditching Sierra and going w some 3d printed designs, endangering lives w the latest. Really, I’m surprised NASA went with Dragon so quickly - turned out to be a good call in the end, but whew.
@IanChunck
Жыл бұрын
I actually got to talk with John Curry about a decade or so ago as an interview for a school project. It was quite the experience and he even gave me the dream chaser pin he had on his suit which I still have to this day.
@970357ers
Жыл бұрын
The Space Shuttle remains quite a beautiful design. Especially in plan projection.
@incargeek
Жыл бұрын
Yep. The worlds greatest all-electric flying machine.
@josephc.9520
Жыл бұрын
@@incargeek Flying might be a stretch considering it had a 4:1 glide ratio
@incargeek
Жыл бұрын
@@josephc.9520 4.5 at approach and landing speeds. It flew well.
@frankmcgowan9457
Жыл бұрын
Though I always thought it was kinda clunky looking, the fact that it was a *_new design_* made it much more attractive to me.
@TheBlahblahblahhh
Жыл бұрын
Scott your content is absolutely enthralling. I swear every time I watch your videos I get most of the way through and I think to myself, "WTF where did my last 10-20 mins go?" It's like being a little kid again. Thanks so much for making it.
@caimanaraujo479
2 ай бұрын
This year has been such a great year for new spacecraft! Starship landing, starliner's first flight, vulcan, ariane 6...
@snower13
Жыл бұрын
The large wings on the space shuttle were needed to give the aircraft large amounts of crossrange. That was needed because the military wanted to do one orbit flights, and return to the launch site. Probably to capture USSR satellites. I feel like Scott did a video on this?
It was so weird watching that video and realizing that the shape of the most iconic spacecraft of my childhood was created because the military wanted to copy the plot point of a James Bond film. 🤣
@gostkillr
Жыл бұрын
@@patreekotime4578with the screenplay by Roald Dahl!
@trespire
Жыл бұрын
@@patreekotime4578 Yet still preferable to a capsule. Humans are not thermonuclear devices.
@rocketsocks
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the major benefits of having a space station is being able to run this development cycle for pressurized spacecraft of doing a cargo vehicle of a new design first then doing a crewed vehicle. It's definitely been advantageous for SpaceX's dragon, you can see the design and operational maturity in the crew dragon from the lessons of running the cargo program, and, perhaps, the lack of that maturity in Starliner.
@TheDisgruntledImperial
Жыл бұрын
Really excited about Dream Chaser's potential, especially as a "lifeboat" of sorts. Have a few of these on a space station, ready to detach and speed an astronaut or sensitive experiment down to ground level *much* faster than a capsule could. Think emergency surgery like an appendectomy or something. It'll be a perfect supplement to Starship.
@ghost307
Жыл бұрын
You should check out the movie 'Marooned'.
@arctic_haze
Жыл бұрын
@@ghost307 Oh, yeah. I remember it quite fondly. I do not want to spoil it but its launch was the highlight of the movie.
@robertmiller9735
Жыл бұрын
@@arctic_haze Bet lots of people were reminded of that last fall.
@xomm
Жыл бұрын
Do they get back to earth from orbit faster or is it mainly less time spent on sea recovery?
@arctic_haze
Жыл бұрын
@@xomm I wondered the same. I think that the descent is actually a little longer in a space plane (this is why it does not get so hot) but you save a lot of time by not being hauled up from the water and then transferred by helicopter.
@edwinkania5286
Жыл бұрын
I remember when those photos were published and thought that is a cool design and when I saw dream chaser I told people the Soviets designed that!!! Thank you for proving my theory now FACT!!!
@Julius_Hardware
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the shout out for test pilot Steve Austin. Eventually he got hardware upgrades and became Scott Manley.
@allenvaughan1
Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, Scott! Having stood next to those lifting bodies as a kid, I have always found the concept fascinating. Thanks again!
@catbertz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this deep dive into the early Soviet designs. I just love the look of space planes and I like Dream Chaser even more than the shuttle, which I was a huge fan of. Can't wait to see her in action.
@temper44
Жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how many Soviet designs inspired NASA and vice versa.
@Paul_Sergeyev
2 ай бұрын
Humanity working together across political problems to achieve common goals is always beautiful
@taskforce58
Жыл бұрын
The Six Million Dollar Man opening sequence actually showed both the HL-10 (the initial drop from the B-52 mothership) and the M2-F2 (the crash).
@mosquitobight
Жыл бұрын
"We have separation..."
@whidzee
Жыл бұрын
The origins of the lifting body concept dates back further than that. Look at Burnelli's designs. He created planes that had fuselages shaped like aerofoils which had amazing performance properties. the last one around exists in the New England Air Museum, called the Burnelli CBY3 - Loadmaster
@gabrielbennett5162
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing a lifting body finally make it to orbit! My grandfather, Vic Horton, was the project leader on NASA's original plywood M2-F1 "flying bathtub" way back in 1963. He was selected for the job by Dale Reed and FRC director Paul Bikle. Later, he was a project engineer on the rocket powered heavyweight lifting bodies that followed and flew as Launch Panel Operator on the B-52 mothership, including when Bruce Peterson had his famous crash in the M2-F2 on May 10, 1967, which was later shown in the opening sequence of "The Six Million Dollar Man."
@jamesowens7176
Жыл бұрын
Very cool story! Thanks for sharing!
@nightshift5201
Жыл бұрын
6:00 Love the driver wearing a helmet while the techies go bare.
@tomersde
Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the X-38, the closest we got to an operational lifting body craft until now. The prototype was over 90% complete with a reservation on a Shuttle to bring it up to the ISS. It was suppose to be a lifeboat first, but anyone with eyes could see that it was a viable crew transport. With Ariane 5 already man-rated and Atlas 5 coming online in a few short years you'd think that there's no way it wouldn't become operational, but in pre-Columbia days anything that was risk to Shuttle's supply chain ended up going nowhere and so did the X-38
@Nowhereman10
Жыл бұрын
No, that last part simply wasn't true at all. The reason it was cancelled was to save money on the ISS program which was suffering from cost overruns. Those cuts also extended to the cancelling of actual full modules for the UOS that were also far along in construction, namely the Habitation and the Centrifuge modules. The second of the two Boeing-built node modules was left grounded in favor of a barter agreement with ESA to have them build additional nodes in exchange for a Shuttle launch of the Columbus module and other hardware.
@antigravityworkshop1436
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning that. The SAC Museum west of Omaha has one of the X-38 test articles. I was explaining to my tour companion the whole life boat for ISS story at a Space Station model. We rounded a corner and - there she was. The X-38! It would have been really cool but the traditional aerospace industry (Boeing, Lockheed, etc.) just can't keep a program on time or on budget. It's a shame. Could have been a great vehicle.
@Nowhereman10
Жыл бұрын
@@antigravityworkshop1436 The X-38 orbital vehicle that was nearly complete at the time of cancellation was not being built by LockMart or Boeing, it was being built in-house at Johnson Space Center. Scaled Composites built the shells and some of the hardware for the atmospheric test craft. In the end, X-38 was blanket cancelled along with the Hab, Centrifuge modules, and grounding the Boeing-built Node-2, etc to cover cost overruns in the program.
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
Plus, the Dream Chaser is much better looking.
@m.streicher8286
Жыл бұрын
Even if the chaser had no advantages over the dragon capsule (it does) The experience and R&D is invaluable.
@jamesowens7176
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention dissimilar redundancy, which is very important.
@Wordsmiths
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesowens7176 Y E S .
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesowens7176 THAT is an excellent point. Well put.
@rileyk99
Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite non-Artmeis project that's going on right now. Years ago I got to see some of the early tooling being constructed and I've been watching it ever since.
@andrewparker318
3 ай бұрын
Man I fucking love Scott Manley
@RyzawaVT
Жыл бұрын
Calling this a fascinating history would be an understatement. Hoping it's a huge success!
@olsonspeed
Жыл бұрын
Dream Chaser is GO! I have always been an advocate of gliding reentry over ballistic, very good to see the progress being made at Sierra Space.
@cripplemadewhole
Жыл бұрын
It's really cool to see the laws of physics and prior designs forcing converging evolution of these different models!
@jacobhunter6891
Жыл бұрын
Apparently I'm not the only Jacob H that likes spaceplanes
@washussan
Жыл бұрын
I saw that crash many, many times as a kid. I loved that show!
@wilboersma9441
Жыл бұрын
Dream Chaser/Shooting Star is honestly one of my favorite spacecraft EVER! It's so cool, and especially because we are (hopefully!) going to get to see it fly this year!
@SierraSpace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support, Wil! We are excited for what the future holds.
@mada1241
Жыл бұрын
in 220 years, this video will show details of some of the first space craft humans ever made. Our historian progeny will really appreciate these flat vids.
@stanstocker8858
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading John McPhee's Deltoid Pumpkin Seed as a young teen. That book, along with the Scientific American Book Of Projects for Amateur Scientists and Brinley's Rocket Manual for Amateurs made me realize there was a wonderful world of science "stuff" that normal people could actually have a part in. As always, thanks for all the great videos!
@Capt.Turner
Жыл бұрын
Kind of a renaissance to all these concepts I've seen in all my books as child and never understood, why they were abandoned back in the day. So I'm really looking forward to see Dreamchaser take to space an back fulfilling one of my childhood dreams. This should be exciting.
@beijingbond
Жыл бұрын
There is a book 'The X-Planes:X-1 to X-45' (Jay Miller, Midland Publishing) which has a lot of info about lifting bodies.
@saundby
Жыл бұрын
Flying without Wings by Milt Thomson is even better, for lifting body information.
@MultiMal3
Жыл бұрын
Probably not the first person to say this, but if anybody wants to go see the HL-20/Dream Chaser in person it's currently on display at the Wings Over the Rockies museum in Denver.
@paulhaynes8045
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've been wondering about the Dream Chaser and it's predecessors for years - seemed like a really good idea, but never seemed to happen. Now, at last, here it is! I know all the arguments about capsules vs planes, the history and mistakes of the Shuttle, etc. etc, but plane-shaped space craft landing on normal runways just seems so much more obvious - and modern! We badly need some more sci-fi to come true!
@jaspersiegmund
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how this concept comes across as very innovative and modern where in fact it's an idea which is older than most things flying today. Makes you wonder what other things from the past are worth revisiting.
@darrenorange2982
Жыл бұрын
Flying Bathtubs and their legacy!
@preferredimage
Жыл бұрын
Had my eye on the Farscape project since the nineties.... Keen to see its maiden voyage...
@tonym480
Жыл бұрын
Watch out for those Wormholes ! , 'I'm just trying to get home!' 😄
@PotatoShack
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this! I have been waiting for someone to show more information on Dream Chaser! It's a fantastic little spacecraft.
@Zaphael
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading about the Dyna-Soar program when I was a kid and seeing all of these concepts and test planes back then and thinking that it was going to become Space Shuttle 2.0. I would love to see the Dream Chaser succeed and become part of the fleet. I've really liked the X-37B but since everything it does is classified, kinda takes the wind out of trying to keep up with it.
@CS_247
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!! Thank you!!
@dvv18
Жыл бұрын
"lapot" is in fact a basket-like, woven bast shoe (see, of course, Wikipedia for more details). Fun fact: runway aiming point markings are often called "lapti" (plural of "lapot") in the Russian pilot lingo.
@camzula86
10 ай бұрын
Proud to say I helped build this.
@sleepyheadfpv1507
Жыл бұрын
Hydrogen Peroxide as the fuel? I at first thought it was a error but it was said twice. That's insane!! Love ya Scott
@scottmanley
Жыл бұрын
Soyuz uses hydrogen peroxide on the descent module because it’s less toxic
@IngieKerr
Жыл бұрын
@@scottmanley ... with the side effect that the crew have to live in Пермь for several months after landing.
@ghost307
Жыл бұрын
@@scottmanley And the Cosmonauts can gargle with it while waiting for the helicopter to come and pick them up.
@benjaminhanke79
Жыл бұрын
@@scottmanley That's what I thought when you mentioned they want to land on an conventional airfield. You don't want to mess around with Hydrazine there. Just watch the leak checks they did after a shuttle landing.
@StevePemberton2
Жыл бұрын
I remember on their website they used to say that they used non-toxic propellants and that the spacecraft could be accessed immediately on landing. They updated their Dream Chaser page last year which has fewer details listed and that's one that got dropped. I looked at older versions of their website on the Wayback Machine and it was listed through May 2022, here is the exact wording: IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO CREW OR CARGO UPON LANDING Since Dream Chaser uses all non-toxic consumables, including propellants, there are no environmental or safety hazards that require unique ground support infrastructure. As a result, it has the potential to land anywhere that has a suitable 10,000 ft runway capable of handling a typical large passenger airplane. Almost immediately after landing, the Dream Chaser spaceplane offers access to cargo and crew.
@cyrilio
Жыл бұрын
I love the flying bathtub. It looks adorable.
@tinman3586
Жыл бұрын
This is a very cool design and I like how it's a different type of spacecraft compared to the capsules manufacturered by Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, and SpaceX. Looks very cool and hopefully they'll do a manned version.
@gregorycoogle7621
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Scott! Very informative… Can’t wait until we light the candle. 😉👍
@Nowhereman10
Жыл бұрын
Ah, you skipped one of the other important lifting body developments, the X-38 which was to have been the U.S. contribution to the Assured Crew Return capability, in addition to Russia and Roscosmos' Soyuz. It was cancelled in the early 2000s just as first spaceflight capable vehicle was nearing completion in order to save money, and despite a good number of test flights with subsonic flight articles showing the vehicle not only could fly, but it had a rather unique parafoil system that would allow for very gentle and slow touchdowns without the need for large amounts of runway. Unfortunate that happened since the X-38 ARCV was capable of carrying the entire 7 person crew back and it was being built so that it could stay on orbit for years, thus reducing the need for a launch every 6 months as is the case for the current crew vehicles.
@thomasackerman5399
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, X-38 ARCV's loss is now coming back to bite NASA and Roscosmos with this latest little incident involving the MS-22 Soyuz, especially with the first flight vehicle about 93% complete!
@Wordsmiths
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasackerman5399 Sad and true. They sowed a minimal crew-return policy, and they reaped a crew-return crisis. Again. It's a testament to how well the operational side has been handled that they haven't had more frequent and more serious crew-return crises over the years, honestly. If we're going to make any progress in cislunar space development (involving human crews), we have got to have more options, more "dissimilar redundancy" in crew launch and crew return vehicles. Here's hoping that an X-37B crewed variant (or a resurrected X-38?) will follow the Dream Chaser to offer yet another option with yet another set of capabilities distinct from the other options. (...but first let's get Dream Chaser operational!)
@Gilgwathir
Жыл бұрын
Really excited for this. The more options we have to transfer cargo and people, the saver and more affordable it gets. I wouldn't want to be trapped on the ISS with a leaky return capsule. I mean, sure, eventually they'll figure out how to return everybody safely.
@Columbiastargazer
Жыл бұрын
ESA had HERMES as a concept too
@taraswertelecki3786
Жыл бұрын
This news made my day. It's high time the lifting body goes from theoretical work and prototypes that only flew if at all in the Earth's atmosphere. I am anticipating with great interest Dreamchaser's maiden flight.
@GiulioVonKerman
Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Can't wait to see this fly. It's amazing, an engineering masterpiece
@ellieinspace
Жыл бұрын
The flying bathtub 😂 what a flex 😅
@afrobuddha
Жыл бұрын
I keep thinking of John Crichton's shuttle in Farscape
@FarrellMcGovern
Жыл бұрын
I guess the lifting body space plane design is much like the "flying wing" in that it was relatively easy to produce a proof-of-concept, but very challenging to create a sophisticated and safe to fly air/space craft.
@GilWanderley
Жыл бұрын
If the HL-20 could be repurposed, I really hope someone recovers the parts of the VentureStar
@Wordsmiths
Жыл бұрын
Oh, the VentureStar... we were so close to triumph... a whole set of painful memories. (Scott actually has a great video about it)
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the VS should be flying today. Even when Congress tries to reduce spending, they still manage to bork things up - with a lot of helpful advice from NASA Admin Bekey. Bekey stunned NASA and the Skunk Works with his words, and were completely demoralized when all the new tech was either buried in crates or destroyed. LockMart was so close to having the major issues worked out; 5 years, $1.5billion…gone. We all lost not having the X-33 and them the Venture Star, but my heart breaks for the technicians and engineers who worked their hearts out but had the rug pulled out from under them.
@druspork7737
Жыл бұрын
Awesome work. Really fascinating take. Anticipating the flight of this lifting body with enthusiasm.
@AneriGS
Жыл бұрын
i love the look of it
@jacobdavidcunningham1440
Жыл бұрын
The Dream Of Lifting Body Space Planes is alive in Louiseville reference
@ГлебАрсеньев-т2ц
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott. There was another Russian project Kliper, unfortunately because luck of financing project was closed. And funny story about Russian Lapot. For the first fly russians scattered watermelons on runway, otherwise Lapot did not move.
@Wordsmiths
Жыл бұрын
Watermelons?! I think something got lost in translation! More explanation please!
@saxoman1
Жыл бұрын
The outro music has no business bumping that hard! Thanks for the space update as always!
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe @Scott Manley didn't mention Farscape near the end of the video... 😢
@ryanhamstra49
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, the clips at 5:35 bring back memories! I had that VHS growing up and wore it out…. Great stuff!!
@sadham2668
Жыл бұрын
Do you remember what is was called?
@ryanhamstra49
Жыл бұрын
“Space shuttle in the beginning” It’s part of a 5 cassette set, which I have recorded and plan to upload, just haven’t got to it yet. Just need to take an evening to upload them.
@DeadBaron
Жыл бұрын
I remember learning about Dreamchaser years ago and thought it was a dead project, I'm glad to see it's still around
@odysseusrex5908
Жыл бұрын
Sierra had bid Dream Chaser for the Commercial crew contract. They were a finalist but lost out to SpaceX and Boeing. Boy, I bet somebody at NASA wishes they had picked Dream Chaser over Starliner. Anyway, after that, on their own dime, they modified the design to an unmanned one and bid on the resupply contract which they won a piece of. They are still, on their own dime, developing a new manned variant. Sierra doesn't let anything hold them back.
@bob19611000
Жыл бұрын
Granted unmanned but the "X-23 Prime" was also a lifting body subscale that made it to space and returned.
@mattmcc72
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you left out the Farscape! :D 6M$M just got a crash, Farscape got 4 seasons and a movie!
@pirobot668beta
Жыл бұрын
While not a space-plane, the Aeroeon26 was a lifting-body/flying-wing hybrid that held lots of promise. While cheap to make, easy to fly and STOL capable, they suffered from low top-speeds and no acrobatic skills to speak of. They hold the potential of being 'flying 18-wheelers'; hauling heavy loads at a leisurely 120 knots. Built like a Zeppelin, cloth stretched over a rigid frame-work.
@sylak2112
Жыл бұрын
Remid me of the European Space shuttle that never come true. I thought it was cool at the time.
@SimonAmazingClarke
Жыл бұрын
Lifting bodies are awesome.
@MoonWeasel23
Жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard about the new crewed concept from them. I had always assumed they would just make a crewed version and a cargo version of the same vehicle, but it’s interesting to see that they actually have two versions. I wonder how much in common the two designs have?
@bbeen40
Жыл бұрын
It was originally designed to be manned for the commercial crew competition. They lost out to Boeing and SpaceX so they continued as a unmanned platform and won a NASA contract for unmanned commercial resupply.
@jamesowens7176
Жыл бұрын
@@bbeen40 Right, but what Aubrey was getting at is that the crew design is no longer just the same as the cargo design. They've actually evolved it for some reason.
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesowens7176 There’s actually three versions planned. There’s a nice slide comparing all three, when I find it, I’l post. SpaceBucket has a LOT of SNC DC presentations and updates and is where I first saw it.
@jimsvideos7201
Жыл бұрын
The first pilot deserves the license plate "ULIFTBRO".
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Farscape 1 ready to fly through that wormhole...!
@smnash82
Жыл бұрын
I got interested in lifting body aircraft after watching Interstellar and falling instantly in love with the Ranger craft. Can't wait to see Dream Chaser fly and hopefully get greenlit for manned missions. Great video!
@marcberm
Жыл бұрын
6:22 it looks like a giant flying seal! 😀
@ruairidhmunro
Жыл бұрын
Dreamchaser is such a cool looking concept. It's a shame that they were not awarded a contract as part of CRS/CCT and NASA (read Congress) decided to subsidise Beoing Starliner. I've a feeling Dreamchaser would have flown long ago had it not been for politics.
@tomamberg5361
Жыл бұрын
Back when the contracts were awarded, Boeing was not the mess it's been the past few years. (We all hope they're crawling out of their woes, for the good of the country, at least...)
@vNYCblade
Жыл бұрын
To me, Dreamchaser is basically Soviet Spiral/Bor offshoot...
@zandvoort8616
9 ай бұрын
Won’t it have the same heat resistant tile problems?
@Gogreenoo3
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Scott! Great compilation of clips and history. You got so much more correct about the Dream Chaser and it's history than any other reporting or commenting I've seen over the years.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
Жыл бұрын
What's really needed for future space construction and habitation, is a lifting body capable of carrying Intermodal Containers in a slide in or drop in configuration.
@Wordsmiths
Жыл бұрын
...something like the Starship... or the Neutron... I think New Glenn is still a bit small, right? (or do I have the fairing size of the New Glenn and the Neutron confused?)
@PiDsPagePrototypes
Жыл бұрын
@@Wordsmiths Those containers would fit inside a Starship or New Glenn, but not a Neutron. Hubble was the biggest load that Shuttle ever flew, and it's a little smaller then the standard Intermodal container.
@agungprasetyo2665
Жыл бұрын
Conclusion.. thanks Russia
@YourComrade1917
4 ай бұрын
Soviet Union
@visionentertainment8006
3 ай бұрын
@@YourComrade1917 So Russia
@Paul_Sergeyev
2 ай бұрын
You're welcome, come any time!
@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190
2 ай бұрын
@@visionentertainment8006not realy. It was dominated by Russia but many tech innovations came for Ukrainians and georgians. Sergei korolev was half ukroanine I think. Plus the molniya program and the antonav bureau also come form other nations.
@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190
2 ай бұрын
@@visionentertainment8006not realy. It was dominated by Russia but many tech innovations came for Ukrainians and georgians. Sergei korolev was half ukroanine I think. Plus the molniya program and the antonav bureau also come form other nations.
@ComradePhoenix
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, most people don't think about the X-37B because its rarely publicized. At the very least, we can say this is the return of civilian spaceplanes.
@leonbarnes1402
Жыл бұрын
im 100% for dreamchaser, it does need to get a crew rating though. way better than dropping people back to earth in a tin can with parachutes. though it does remind me of farscape 1 from farscape, but its clear where their inspiration came from. id rather see it launch on a falcon though
@ghost307
Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Farscape 1 was inspired by the rescue craft in the movie 'Marooned'.
@lordgarion514
Жыл бұрын
And how many people have died in tin cans with parachutes, compared to the space shuttle?
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
Жыл бұрын
@@lordgarion514 I think it's 1:1 in terms of mission lost. Different on body count but that's because nothing else carried as many bodies as the shuttle.
@HellToupee1
Жыл бұрын
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom difference is those tin can failures happened in the first generation craft when lessons were still being learnt while both failure modes of the shuttle were unlikely to happen to a capsule while capsules have proven to survive aborting booster failures on the pad and inflight.
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it’d eventually ride on the F9, but Sierra, ULA, and NASA have been working on this together for a long time: prolly since Sierra’s inception in 2004 with NASA, and maybe as early as 2006 when ULA was founded. Looking at the executives, it seems to me several people likely knew each for even longer. Since the Vulcan already has 70 Vulcan missions sold, including 7 for Tenacity, Vulcan’s prolly going to be first choice for Sierra for some time, especially as it obtains it’s human rating. My prediction is the Ariane 6 will be certified for the Dream Chaser next, well before Falcon9, so the ESA can contribute it’s resources to replenishing and remanning the ISS.
@marcberm
Жыл бұрын
6:51 Oof! Tailstrike! Lol
@WozWozEre
Жыл бұрын
Finally a new employment opportunity for all those unemployed space shuttle door gunners.
@michaelmurray2595
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scott: your videos are just great!
@alansnyder4104
Жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this one. After Starship and Neuton this one is my 3rd favorite item in development.
@Skipper92ful
Жыл бұрын
There is so much room in the space industry for all different types of launch vehicles. I love it. In 20 years who knows what we will see flying...
@dansorkin6985
Жыл бұрын
An excellent, clear, and fascinating look at the history of lifting body space planes and the genesis of the Dream Chaser. Thanks, Scott.
@MCsCreations
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating history! Thanks, Scott! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@zyeborm
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the first crewed lifting body space plane in orbit was the Farscape 1. There's a whole documentary series on it 😂
@wattsmichaele
Жыл бұрын
Scott….as long time subscriber this is one of the best videos you have done with content, photos, videos. Excellent!!!
@kevincorbin6273
10 ай бұрын
It looks remarkably like John Crichtons craft from the series Farscape
@JFrazer4303
Жыл бұрын
Langley said that the "Spiral" BOR-4 shape had "exceptionally benign thermal characteristics". It might not even have needed the RCC nose cap: The flat nose of the Spiral created a stagnant stand-off layer preventing the worst heating from touching any of it. Loss of the flat nose was the most obvious "American" influence away from the Soviet shape. The HL-42 was quite a machine. They considered versions with a payload bay in the back for idependant (manned) deployment of and work on small payloads, but mostly it used space station racks passed through the airlocks at the back and on top behind the crew. It and its escape rocket package would sit on top of an external payload carrier either for extra delivery to a station or for it to work on in orbit. It was still, as with the HL-20, designed for horizontal recovery after landing and in the shop before vertical stacking, and designed as much OTS as possible in avionics and as many parts as possible. Going back to only using he Shuttle, and then using Soyuz instead of building the HL-20 was one of the biggest mistakes that NASA ever made.
@PedroRafael
Жыл бұрын
These are good news. Fingers crossed it makes in maiden voyage this year, that would be cool. Thank you for the details and bits of history!
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