“Disaster” is a strong word. I think we’ve all had these bad days. The rider handled it well. Why was this even considered newsworthy?
@beannamated
3 жыл бұрын
Was it because of her standing on the road to the Olympics? (I'm not a dressage or competitive rider)
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it took so long for her to decide to call it a day. Granted she seemed patient and kind BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
@@beannamated No. Maybe because it took so long for her to decide to call it a day. A rider shoukd make that decision before a judge makes it for you. CLEARLY there was something not right with her horse. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. He/she is not looking at one particular thing. The horse just wants nothing to do with going in the ring. While she tried to regain control, the horses chin is almost touching the neck. It was an indication something was really wrong. When a horse is extremely sore, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a minute or two, if her horse continued, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what many competitors do is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because it took so long for her to decide to call it a day. Granted she seemed patient and kind BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@syzygyfarm
3 жыл бұрын
It's a series title used by the channel when things don't go well.
@syzygyfarm
3 жыл бұрын
They had a few lovely conversations just then. She had soft hands, asked him if he was okay (checking bend), and it seemed like after the third 'no' from him, she said, 'Okay.. another day!' Great example of how to handle that situation.
@jonjonwp
3 жыл бұрын
She did what she could to calm him but she was timed out and eliminated by the judges.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Checking bend? That was the rollkur training coming out. He had his nose on his chest at several moments. Then he violently shook his head up and down. That is a clear signal of great discomfort or pain. He had finally had " enough ". That horse didn't spook. He refused to go forward and endure any more pain. The problem with rollkur training is how cruel it is. When a rider has to resort to these tactics then they should be banned from competition. Isabel Wirth is another example. Has anyone really watched her ride? She is bouncing in the saddle & her horse is a rigid yet she is considered the " queen " of dressage and is a user of the rollkur method. It's abuse sanctioned by FEI.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonjonwp Granted she seemed patient and kind. BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Now take a real close look at the hyper extension of this horses neck. It's a tell. The horse does it even when he isn't asked too. That horse was trained with rollkur and he simply said he wasn't going to take it anymore. If there is nothing wrong with rollkur, why not use it in the ring? The Europeans (Dutch, Germans) keep using Rollkur. I'm getting sick of it. I see Isabelle Werth taking all the awards and quite frankly she doesn't ride have as good as other riders and her horses are not nearly as nice. She rides stiffly, bounces in the saddle and her horses do not look relaxed. There are so many riders who ride correctly, keeping their horses trained in traditional dressage methods. They use careful training methods which takes time to strengthen muscles. But traditional training builds muscle with repeated, steady, kind and ethical means keeping a horse happy and comfortable in his work. People who use rollkur should be banned from competition. Horses should not have their necks cranked around in a cruel, unnatural position. Reminds me of western methods where they tie a horse's head up inside a stall for hours at a time in order to make the horse lower his neck. Rollkur, falsely and inhumanely makes a horse put his neck & head in painful positioning. It's disgusting. It keeps cropping up throughout the video.. additionally right around the 40 second mark of the video, he violently tosses his head up. That is a sign of anger and pain. I think in his case it's both. There is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional and should not have that severe a reaction. Excuses are being made for his behavior, when,the horse is aactually a victim. It is a sign of the abuse horses are continuing under. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Watch the horse carefully. Once the initial so-called " spook " took place, he etermined he was going no further. He was not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward, towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore; just as a child who is abused begins to act out, horses will do the same. But they have no voice except if we listen. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. They take years to develop horses because you can't have a true dressage horse overnight. Nor can you manufacture the look: c4 qThe horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Well, she wasn't listening because he wasn't all right.
@syzygyfarm
3 жыл бұрын
@@janets6474 From the back of a horse, that feels like spooking. She did the right thing by asking the horse forward. She didn't push or punish, she asked softly. Checking for bend is NOT the same thing as rollkur. Rollkur is not a moment in time where the chest meets the nose, it is a prolonged training style. Otherwise, my horse would be rollkuring himself when he uses his teeth to scratch his chest. She clearly checks left and right bend. She asked, he gave his answers and she backed off. In a moment lioe that, you always try to give the horse time to settle down. She did good. Had the horse actually been in pain, the behavior would have continued even after she turned away from the trigger. Let's not pretend like we see something that simply isn't there. 😉
@lorettatooke6402
3 жыл бұрын
She handled this horse kindly with compassion. She tried , he said no and she listened. This is the kind of patient rider we need to all be. Horses are animals, not machines and they will have issues as animals do.
@khricket
3 жыл бұрын
Hirse said no and the judges said no not her
@elizabethsakurai4253
3 жыл бұрын
Horses are COMPLETELY mistreated in the horse community. ENOUGH SAID!!
@dressageization
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you sensationalise this with dreadful music?
@jerrysegal2903
3 жыл бұрын
enjoyable video but why the distracting music. in order to watch i had to shut down audio
@balsall6720
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed the music is distracting and adds nothing to the video a job for the mute button
@LlerasFederico
3 жыл бұрын
Why the disgusting noise that some have the temerity to call music?
@ameliam8431
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s just a video of a horse having an off day and his rider trying to calm him down. No need to sensationalise it with a click bait title and awful music.
@sugarbear1965
3 жыл бұрын
Let him be a horse?? Maybe
@sandieadams9529
3 жыл бұрын
When your horse is telling you something always best to listen.
@kristinalewis3534
3 жыл бұрын
love the you-tube trainers.... :/ I think we all know this. The horse was spooked by something. (judges booth perhaps?) and she handled it well.
@katelogan5091
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing this horse was telling his rider is that he was going to be a complete tool.
@lottejensen5028
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. That horse is in pain. Mine acted very similar when his back started aching. Ive retired him now as its from years of previous owners using ill-fitted saddles on him and theres not really much to do about it
@yoicapellaers782
3 жыл бұрын
@@lottejensen5028 girl this was his first competition after a year. Bohemian is/was not in pain, he was just spooked. Cathrine adressed this, their last show went great and they got second.
@niveusnimbus
3 жыл бұрын
The way he throws his head, is not just a little spook
@sxyfaye
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant example of horsemanship, they aren't machines and can all have off days. She handled it very well and was kind and patient with the horse and accepted that today just wasn't the day
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Granted she seemed patient and kind BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@annalatrocka680
3 жыл бұрын
@@janets6474 I May not know all the details as I wasn’t there with them but yes, it was a refusal for sure. I don’t agree with you though, she handled it very well. Most professional riders push the horse forward, kick them, pull on reins and make them go further. She, however, gently asked him to go anyways, didn’t fight with him as most would do. She’s also stressed and cares for the competition, but she didn’t fight with the horse. You don’t know what happened - it seemed that something was hurting him, so it may not necessarily have been a training issue but rather something that happened there, some ache, maybe an unexpected injury. How do you know they didn’t call a vet later?
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
@@annalatrocka680 you have valid points. But the rollkur method of training could be the cause of that pain. At around 1:38 on the video she's pulling pulling not yanking) his head all the way to the left then right and the horse reacted immediately Ina negative manner. At approx 1:50, she turns him back going toward the judges stand again. But the turn was made in the rollkur. You are right I don't know they didn't have the vet check him later. My point was the decision to scrap this part of the completion happened far to late. I suspect by looking at him the warm up may have also had indicators of potential problems.
@annalatrocka680
3 жыл бұрын
@@janets6474 I rewatched this. It’s not rolkur. She’s pulling him to the side, look at her hands, she’s giving him space. The horse is in clear distress, it’s hard for him to listen to her commands at that moment and most likely put his head closer to his neck from the stiffness and didn’t want to look in the spooky direction nor go there, therefor his head ended up in that position. Mind that it’s just few seconds of the video, if she would constantly do that I would react differently. Also see that that was one of her “last chance” reaction, she was in distress herself and a lot of pressure. For that pressure I think she reacted well. Why she reacted so late? I do agree that was a mistake, she should have reacted earlier, dismount or whatever. That was too late. But also let’s remember that horses will be horses. And the same applies to humans, she’s only a human, they make mistakes. Such pressure, big competition, something goes wrong - maybe even she had a bad day as well and it ended up that way. I wouldn’t hate on an actually good rider for one minor mistake. I’ve seen many riders riding horses in such situation and she’s the very first one I just feel sorry for, not angry at.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
@@annalatrocka680 I don't disagree with your observations. I also agree that we are just looking at a couple of minutes in time and yes we are all humans. I'm sure she could have felt insecure with a horse reacting like that. But I stand by my conclusion the horse was not spooking and the rider trains under rollkur. Granted, her trainer may have guided her using this method and maybe not as severe. It seems like with anything there are extremes ( Isabel Werth for instance). But pulling on the horses head like that with two bits in his mouth was certainly not helping. Maybe part of his problem was bitting (?). Anyway, we agree on some things and not so much on others. But enjoyed the conversation!
@christabyrd
3 жыл бұрын
She couldn’t of handled that any better! She did everything she could without getting mad and let him stop and think and he still said “Nope!” I think someone should of stepped in to help a lot quicker though! That could of went a lot worse but she handled it the best a rider possibly could! Good for her! Some of the best horses have bad days too!
@angelikakoch-mehrin406
3 жыл бұрын
Totally unrelated question and out of curiosity since I keep seeing this more and more (and I'm not a native English speaker): is this a new thing to use "should of" or "couldn't of" instead of "should have" and "couldn't have" or is this an auto-correct feature that just happens?
@annemillington5437
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelikakoch-mehrin406 It is a colloquialism; not really considered correct.
@dianamarhula4990
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a mistake that a lot of people are making now. It definitely should be HAVE not OF
@shammydammy2610
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelikakoch-mehrin406 It's a mistake, people hear should've as should of and believe that's how it's written.
@newlife8318
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to see the horse so upset bless
@halewich
9 ай бұрын
I love when dressage horses have finally had enough and refuse to put up with one more second of madness.
@LisaAlioto-dc3eg
3 ай бұрын
Shut up & troll another page
@guydegroof9415
Ай бұрын
Saying you know nothing about horses without telling me you have zero understanding about horses. 😂
@garyandsusannayoder8392
3 жыл бұрын
sheesh if I had to hear music like that on a regular basis i would freak too.
@shakia000
Ай бұрын
Pretty shit choice of music to put the video to. Silence or the sounds of the show itself would have been a better choice
@Spotted_lily_exotics
3 жыл бұрын
I love that this is shown. She handled it really well. It’s an inspiration to not give up on those off days. Even the best have those odd/bad rides. Back to the drawing board to figure out why it happened. I applaud her. She’s what a rider should. Patient, kind, confident and ultimately putting the horse first
@sharihazlett3774
3 жыл бұрын
She handled it well trying to encourage him. He just was like , " nope, no way today ". It happens
@californianinkansas
3 жыл бұрын
We’ve all had similar experiences. Horses gonna horse
@SuperLucifix
3 жыл бұрын
She did, but it was in a public and tbh I've never seen a horse act this way without a reason, usually some king of pain.
@californianinkansas
3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperLucifix Hello from Kansas! Someone downthread said that it was their first test in an outdoor arena since 2019, and that it was one of the judges that he was spooking at. I am so very, very impressed which how tactfully and kindly she handled his spook. I loved that she kept giving him encouraging neck pats. My (halter-bred, sigh) beloved gelding is very smart and sweet and affectionate and agile but is VERY hot and reactive and spooky. I think that maybe I relate a bit too much to this video, LOL
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@californianinkansas the young horse did indeed spook at the judge. Because of his age he is more prone to that
@stephanierutherford2683
3 жыл бұрын
I call this the "lightbulb off" moment. My childhood horse was very similar. Nowadays we have fancy terms like trigger stacking. Essentially this horse was exposed to stimuli to the point where it reached its tolerance and shut down. Adrenaline is pumping at this point and their natural instinct become predominant. It's a difficult ride, same some horses will always be a challenge. Just as some of us are born more confident than others, horses are the same. Some can develop more confidence over time with success, and that depends on training strategies too. Glad they both got out of the ring intact. Surely a disappointment but nothing to go bananas over.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
But this horse is a very seasoned professional. I respectfully disagree. It took to long for her to decide to call it a day. Granted she seemed patient and kind BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@janets6474 this horse is young. Not a prof yet
@GoToPhx
3 жыл бұрын
@@janets6474 I understand what you are saying. However, without being able to see the warm up, the horse on other days, etc. I can't necessarily agree with you. I would think that most top level horses are treated like gold. With so many amazing treatments available (horse chiropractors, equine body workers, state of the art diagnostic equipment, shockwave treatments, ice boots and healing blankets, aqua therapy, etc., etc.) I believe any physical ailment would have been noticed, diagnosed, and treated. I don't ride at Olympic level, but from personal experience I loved and rode a horse that had serious physical talent but would sometimes reach a point where he would say "no". It would be as another person commented, 'trigger stacking', which term I never heard before but, but I understand because this describes my horse. For example, at one show, we went to our warm-up arena on day 2 (day 1 and day 3 were fine). On this day there was a roping dummy (looks like a fake cow with horns but no legs) along our route, and my horse took exception to that-he was terrified! I calmed him down, and we took a different route to our arena. We started warming up, no problem. After a few minutes, a clinic started in the arena next to us, and suddenly there were 3 or 4 horses galloping around at liberty. Yes, this worried my horse again! I let him have a few minutes to assess what was going on, and we were able to continue our warm up. I could feel that he was tense, but we were working through it and he started to relax again. At this point, a man came out of a nearby barn with two very fuzzy miniature horses; they looked like little bears. The man tied them outside the barn and left. My horse had enough. He halted, got light in front (lifting his front legs in preparation to rearing), and started trembling. I needed him to go forward, but he decided to back up, and back up, and back up. I didn't fight him, and he backed almost the entire length of a large arena, out the gate, past a restroom, and past several barns. I got him to stop, and walked him forward a little. He was still tense, so I walked him around the showgrounds until he calmed down and we were done for the day. After the first two 'upsets' we were still able to regroup and could have continued with our show. This behavior wasn't a physical problem- he was checked, re-checked, vetted, taken care of on a regular basis, etc. This was my horse's personality. He got better with time and was able to handle more pressure. So, if this horse is like mine, I think this rider was giving this horse a chance to calm down, and continue. Simply giving up at the first instance of the horse being upset wouldn't be beneficial training. I guess I'm saying that while I agree that horses will balk at working if they are in pain, they can also balk for other reasons.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
@@GoToPhx Horses never lie. My experience taught me to watch h the horse. If horses refuse in any manner, if their behavior or attitude is altered, there is ALWAYS something physical behind it. It's our job to figure it out, know our horses regular behavior to get to Health issues before the escalate. I would make note of each horses urine output & color, poop output & texture, how they ate their meals, how they behaved in the field, what was their behavior with other horses and how they were when handled. In almost all cases I figured it out. My boarding barn was known for its care of horses. When you SEE bad behavior there is something wrong; especially to this degree. That's why I am so emphatic with my opinions. While spooking can happen to any horse, st times, that is even a sign. We had a horse that hot " girthy " & after sometime the owner figured to call the vet. The vet came and diagnoses epm. The horse rec mess & is healed.
@vlg1728
Жыл бұрын
It's the problem with professional competition : when it's amateur there's no real stake, si when the horse is refusing to perform we can say "ok no need to insist, it may be better next time". But for professionnals, they are pressured to perform so they try and try to make the horse do what they are here for, and it can lead to abuse and injuries
@californianinkansas
3 жыл бұрын
What a tactful, compassionate equestrian! I am so impressed by how she handled this!
@IngenaBos
3 жыл бұрын
As soon as the tension was off the horse ,it left the arena with no trouble.
@GilraenTook
3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It's almost like we shouldn't be rewarding riders for breaking FEI rules and jacking their horses' heads behind the verticle.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@GilraenTook She didn't
@Cassado98
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 She did.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cassado98 she didn't.
@Cassado98
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 When the horse went back his head was behind the vertical. Also in walk. That‘s a fact.
@norikerfreundin
3 жыл бұрын
Das Pferd sieht für mich so aus, als ob es diesen ganzen Leistungszirkus einfach nicht mehr aushält….
@Ingridlosneslokken
3 жыл бұрын
So beautiful seeing how soft and patient she was with her horse. This really shows how much us riders care about our animal and that it is a team effort and not animal slavery or anything like that. We listen, they listen! ❤️ so beautifully handled!
@m3r3dith
3 жыл бұрын
She handled it very well, nice and calm 👌🏽
@elenasereix9590
Жыл бұрын
Some horses are extremely sensitive in the mouth and cannot deal with the double bridle. Watch every time the rider pulls back the rein (about all the inside rein), the horse goes mad. Even the slightest back-movement with the hand, hardly to perceive by the observer, is unbearable for the horse because it reminds him of the pain.
@ShintogaDeathAngel
Жыл бұрын
It's not the bridle that's the issue - if his mouth was that sensitive to having two bits, he wouldn't even have made it to this competition since the bridle is mandatory at this level (and therefore, the horse would have already been trained in one) - the horse was having a bad day and didn't want to go in the ring. Happens to human athletes of all levels, too.
@corneliatillmann7500
3 жыл бұрын
Das ist vorbildlich gelöst. Ruhig, mit weicher Hand, konsequent und Lob. BESSER GEHT ES NICHT👏👍
@allisonhulley5970
3 жыл бұрын
It’s getting very common to see these horses not coping with all the pressure put on them, when it becomes evident the horse does not want to perform they need to take th shores out. These are not inexperienced horses still scared to be at a show for the first time. No these horses know their job and are just literally saying no. I’ve had enough. Give the horse a break.
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Granted she seemed patient and kind BUT clearly there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
He is inexperienced. He is still young and they were off show for awhile so it was his first in a long period of time
@allisonhulley5970
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 then she should still have not put the pressure on and let him leave. Obviously not ready and not coping with situation.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@allisonhulley5970 no because the horse Will take advantage of that the next time. Thinking he'll always be allowed to leave if he refuses. She is a Grand prix Rider. She knows her horse better than your internet trainer ass does.
@allisonhulley5970
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 no actually, he is not that young of a horse if he is competing at that level. He is just out of his depth and should be allowed to retire. Tomorrow’s another day and she can work on the problems she’s having another day.Horses retire/leave the ring all the times in shows. What happens if he’s eliminated? Does he get to stay and sort things out? I have trained many actual young horses and it’s not always the answer to make a horse perform until he gets it right. Sometimes the answer is to let the horse do something more relaxing and let him keep his confidence. This is the equivalent of “over facing” a horse just the same as what happens in jumping horses of which I am also familiar with.
@biscuit1230
3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad she was gentle and continued to calm the poor boy.
@lyndachabane1931
Жыл бұрын
A prime example of a good rider. Soft hands, reassuring pats and she recognised he was not happy. Well done for retiring. They can have off days too remember riders.
@sarahwagland1559
7 ай бұрын
This horse is in pain, it is not merely having a bad day. If you sent your child to school and it behaved like that would you simply dismiss it as them having a bad day?
@jaweth9373
10 ай бұрын
I went into a competition not knowing that the judge (a former owner of my dear horse) was a former owner of my dear horse. He did everything wrong and tried to burst into the mid arena as if to attack her. I fought him and excused myself from the ring. Only later did I find out she was his former trainer. He totally wanted to take her down even w me on his back. My dear horse and I had competed in many shows where we won the blue or red. Until this show where we came into the arena and my dear horse was out for blood and I had to excuse us out of the ring. Later I found out who SHE was - an abuser of horses- and checked closely who was the judge. We did fine and won quite a few blues. EXCEPT for that day when he ignored my cues and was intent on doing some harm. Scary at first - but when I heard the whole story, I was very proud of my mount calling her out (if you will). She tried to say my horse wasn't qualified for the ring. Horse people were smarter than that and disqualified her from being ever a judge again after they found out she had once owned my horse cuz he was pretty dang good in the ring until boomda she was the judge. End of her shitty horse shows and being exposed for the horse abuse she was so guilty. My dear horse went on to winning many blues.
@honesttraitorbear3527
8 ай бұрын
Like a movie of something
@slunt3123
8 ай бұрын
When a horse tells you he is so upset he is going to rear, and says so several times, get off and find out what’s wrong.
@inamunch267
7 ай бұрын
Das sehe ich auch so, aber sie bleibt stur sitzen.
@hossjulia
3 жыл бұрын
Pure pain response to all the crap on his head. Poor thing. Over bent on entry and he said NO! So sick of seeing horses ridden behind the vertical. It's abuse.
@spiridoulaathanasopoulou9244
3 жыл бұрын
the equine right to say NOOOOOOO
@Gabrielle937
3 жыл бұрын
He is utterly confused 1:14 so sad to see. Couldn't imagine what is going through his mind, being helpless and pushed to where he doesn't want to be. He's had enough.
@fionaclayton1234
3 жыл бұрын
Bless his heart, hope he is OK
@catbarr924
9 ай бұрын
I love Cathrine, she is such a brilliant horsewoman.
@impunitythebagpuss
3 жыл бұрын
Class act under severe pressure to perform. Well done ....sorry about results though.
@someone-bt5lu
3 жыл бұрын
Who is here after Annika Schleu
@Musicmix21
3 жыл бұрын
"Oh no those scores, I can't do that' said the horse. No seriously, these things can happen to anyone.
@dianawatters7643
3 жыл бұрын
Every time she pulls on the reins to 'get his head down' he says no. He's had enough going with a broken neck. On the buckle & leave. Hope he is listened to & they can find harmony.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
... Are you stupid? The horse spooked at the judge. He is very young and she handled it fine without pulling on the reins. Not even a little
@jeanwierzbinski7610
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience with horses.
@dihamilton7611
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeanwierzbinski7610 I'm guessing that you don't ride at anywhere near this level?
@myblueskye7505
3 жыл бұрын
I saw behavior like that one time when a bystander ignorantly started smoking a cigarette at the rail. One horse got a puff of smoke blown by his face and that was the end of that ride! Bucking rearing trying to run away from danger! NO SMOKING AROUND BARNS OR ANIMALS!
@eddemoss8228
3 жыл бұрын
( using husband's YT acct. ) We've all been there in some way but most of us do not have the eyes of the world watching & second guessing . Let's just hope they are able to work thru whatever the cause . Personally . I had a rock solid QH mare who had " been there, done that " one day get very tense during a warm up at an arena we were very comfortable with ; therefore , we did not show but just walked quietly around the grounds . The next day at another location , she showed calmly & did well . Still a mystery but luckily no trauma . Wishing us all good rides & happy horses !
@JillDAoustRealtor
3 ай бұрын
The rider handle her horse kindly and with respect. For those who think that these horses are treated badly, you are way off base. They are loved, cared for, and respected for their talents and enjoy working and doing their best for their riders . This was just a day when this horse was spooked or upset about something and the rider was kind enough to listen.
@karolaheimann6501
3 жыл бұрын
Poor horses. So much suffering. Fed up with all! Bring me back in the field..
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
shut up
@marsaeille
Жыл бұрын
Horses are not robots. On a stressful day like this, the right thing is to pull them out and give them a second chance another day.
@caroledavis9362
3 жыл бұрын
On any given day...the horse can just not feel like it... it can happen to anyone.
@anb2526
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, because to me it looks like the horse calms down and stops as soon as she gives him the rein. Then her answer instead of asking forward while giving the loose rein, is to yank on the rein. Nope that's not what it would have seemed logical to do (from here)!
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
she didn't yank on the reins at all. The horse calmed down because he was allowed to go back to a place he feels more safe in the end. The young horse spooked
@jackiekittridge-steele385
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the pressure is "on", and imho the horse perceived this full-on. I think that this stress is very uncomfortable for the horse and disrupted the performance. Consider how much your handwriting changes when you are under stress: the muscle memory that allows you to write without thinking about it is contorted and the writing is affected. So then think of riding aids/cues and how your subtle signaling may be changed by your stressful state.
@DressageHub
3 жыл бұрын
That's a great analogy
@sherrieludwig508
3 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but this was not a green horse's first show by a long shot. Any individual, human or animal, has an "off" day, this was his.
@donnac.1609
3 жыл бұрын
That horse needs a vacation with a lot stress free riding. Professional horses go thru a lot of constant repetition during preparation and training. Sometimes tg they become over whelmed....can happen in any discipline....
@Lea-wm3pm
3 жыл бұрын
This was the first show of the horse after a very long vacation. 😉
@lizday11
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, very overstressed..head jammed up even with her light hands. Makes it very hard for the horse to actually see and becomes very unbalanced. I would not allow a horse that is bent like that in the ring. You often wonder when you see them if they have achieved this past the perpendicular in the natural way.
@cherrylane79
3 жыл бұрын
There might be something wrong, pain etc. IDK about dressage, but in the trotting industry 80% of horses had injury from the bit in Finland.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
She uses the bit correctly so it doesn't hurt. It's a very young horse and he got spooked by the judge
@foundationdressage
3 жыл бұрын
This horse didn't "spook at the scoreboard"..it simply didn't want to go into the ring, it was frazzled...did you see that nervous piaffe stepping as it was being encouraged by the rider, mostly with her hands BTW and not her legs oddly - ? The horse was so full of anxiety about the pressure of the upcoming test it simply melted down and said I CANNOT DO THIS. It took way too long for her to get the message in MHO. AND my god what kind of MUSIC was that??? any horse listening to that wouldn't want to perform to that. It was so sicko techno - yuk!! what happened to grace and lyricism around a horse's work?
@janets6474
3 жыл бұрын
Or ..... there was something not right with her horse. Some riders and trainers seem to be kind and patient yet can ignore simple signs that something is wrong. It ends up being "a training issue ". Also, there is a lot of pressure on this pair to get to the Olympics. This horse is a seasoned professional. So a reaction this extreme should raise a red flag. I don't really buy the explanation the horse " spooked " at the scoreboard. It's not really a "spook" either. It was a refusal. Was the horse sick? Was it the back or hocks? I've seen horses with that kind of reaction with serious hock and back issues. The horse knows what will happen in the ring and what's expected - especially when the horse just went through the warm up. Also, watch the horse carefully. Once the initial " spook " is over with it wasn't going any further but not really looking at anything in particular. The horse just wants nothing to do with going forward towards the entrance of the ring. Horses will communicate when they become uncomfortable and sore. If we don't pay attention, reactions become more severe. While no one seems to be listening, they can rear, take a violent turn - then bolt or buck. Once her horse exhibited this kind of reaction, after a few minutes, and as her horse continued the rejection of moving forward, it's time to get off, go back to the barn and call a vet. Why would you want to push your horse like this? It upsets me when competition comes before a horses wellbeing. That's why I appreciate Charlotte DuJardin & Carl Hester so much. Their training ethic is one you don't see very often. I believe that is the reason Valegro was retired. If you watch his final performance, you can see some missteps and he seemed to be having slight difficulty in performing lead changes and piaffe. But he wasn't pushed any further. That was the right thing to do. To push him past that point, which is what some competitors do, is unkind & frankly unethical. The horses wellbeing should ALWAYS come first!
@GPC-tu7ti
3 жыл бұрын
The music was added to the video. It's not actually playing at the competition. LOL. Goodness.
@jessj7735
2 жыл бұрын
Shame poor boy just want to give him a hug. Also so much goes into a show day I'm sure she needed a hug too. Well handled ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@karencostanzo2906
3 жыл бұрын
I've had this happen - just riding in the ring that we always ride in. I could not get her to go into 1 corner for love or money. After she refused even with my trainer leading her, we heard a rustle in the leaves - and it was a blacksnake. (Common aroung barns, they eat rats and mice, too small to harm a horse, non-venemous) Once we got the snake unstuck from the netting it had gotten tangled in, it took me 2 months to get her back into that corner.
@CocoandKitty
3 жыл бұрын
Good to see she stayed calm and tried to help him through and didn't add to his stress. Today he just couldn't 💞
@WildDomesticated
5 ай бұрын
I'm an animal communicator and he said she was being selfish. He desperately wanted to go back home and was pleading for someone to help him. He was reaching out to the people in the stands without any luck. He did NOT want to be in this competition. She knew before leaving that he didn't want to go but I'm glad she listened to him and respected him in public. Horse people tend to be sensitive people. So, when your horse leads, please listen, and let them. You'll make quicker progress together if you do.
@blueeyebeauty6364
3 жыл бұрын
The music accompanying this video is dreadful. Muted it so I could watch the video. Even horses become burned out from neverending training, traveling, and showing. Horses need breaks just like humans.
@magicpony9
3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully handled.
@xSophieX
3 жыл бұрын
Why is this even on KZitem? You're just highlighting someone's bad time at a show and singling them out. Not cool..
@sporter8851
3 жыл бұрын
She handled that so well. Very Impressive.
@Lauren-vd4qe
9 ай бұрын
I DONT see him spooking at a scoreboard; but i DO see him spooking at those potted tree bushes; which many horses do; such dangerous looking bushes!!!
@Holly84124
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he spooked. He ring sour!
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
no he did spook. He is a very young horse so tends to spook more often at stressfull things like this
@shadowlakew2005
2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame this is newsworthy and everyone is amazed by her humane-ness.
@tinekeduinker4359
3 жыл бұрын
Not rough? Pulling his chin on tis breast is considered completely nornal these days. I wiished all these poor horses refused that kind of behaviour.
@liselottenormannsrensen7867
Жыл бұрын
Titanic was a disaster, this is a super horse and a very talented rider, who had a bad day❤ stop the talk about Rollkur since Cathrine would rather chop of her leg, than hurt her horse. This video is 6 min long, take the time and watch interviewes and other videos with Cathrine riding or if possible watch them live. Watch her with Cassidy and then try to imagine, that she would hurt him. She was offered millions and millions for him, but no he is retired and stays with her, grassing her backyard and being fed appels through her bedroom window. Cathrine comes from an "ordinair" family and has worked her way up, still riding other peoples horses since she cant afford million dollars horses. She trains and ride with compasion, respect and care for the horse. It is so easy to sit behind a screen, pretending to be an expert and judging other people, after watching a glimse of their life. But not fair. Do better🤨
@MaplewoodWarmbloods
3 жыл бұрын
Happens....they aren't washing machines.
@hydrangeadragon
3 жыл бұрын
even when there is absolutely nothing to spook at dressage horses still manage to see ghosts, this is why I do jumping lol
@debrabiderman4275
3 жыл бұрын
Not this horses day. Great try though. Looked like something was startling the horse. My boy would ride past the scariest boogers and then shy at a birch log or a white rock. They aren't machines.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
He spooked because of a judge :) That's a fact they are not machines and shouldnt be treated as such. She handled it lovely
@Mia-gw8cx
10 күн бұрын
I appreciate the noble characters of horse and rider, in all these circumstances. I give kudos and support to our loved ones on horseback.
@11buleria
3 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the stressed out horse.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
Horses get spooked all the time. No need to feel sorry
@chrissie6120
3 жыл бұрын
Warum wird diese Reiterin nicht ausgeschlossen. Bei so aufgerollten Hals bekommt das Pferd kaum Luft und wie wäre Zügel lang lassen. Stattdessen eine harte Barde nach der anderen. Unmöglich. Hoffentlich kommt das arme Tier bald in gute Hände. Horsemanship ist bei dieser Reiterin ein Fremdwort. Gott schütze dieses arme Pferd.
@helenijuht1938
3 жыл бұрын
Schade, dass so wenige Leute das sehen... Richtig gesagt 🙂.
@ginadodemont6942
3 жыл бұрын
No of us know how hard this woman and horse have worked to get to this level! The rider was amazing at staying light with cues and reins! The horse was very clear it was not willing to do what was asked on the left lead. The rider is a class act.
@Hverdagshesten
Жыл бұрын
She had like ten chances to get of the horse, but kept trying to ask it to go. Why would one continue. And why did no one say. Hey you tried long enough dear. Your horse is clearly not okay. Scratch it!
@philanna38
2 жыл бұрын
The poor horse seemed confused. I hope he wasn't hurting from something.
@wernerheuser634
9 ай бұрын
a horse in pain and fear
@jillmanifold8725
8 ай бұрын
We sometimes ask too much of them, forever asking more, they aren't machines😡
@flemmingheilmannpallesen3996
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe we don’t need this kind of sports! Never thought about that 🤔
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
maybe you should shut up
@helenijuht1938
3 жыл бұрын
When Dressage is done nicely then it should be harmonious and horse friendly but nowadays the Dressage isn't what it use to be.... People should learn about biomechanics first not just try to shut up other people who do not like overpressured ways..
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@helenijuht1938 the horse industrie always has bad sides. But that does not mean the sport shouldnt exist. I ride dressage to. The rider handled his spook just fine so op's comment is out of place.
@YourBestieee25807
4 ай бұрын
We need more people like this. I really appreciate on how well she handled the situation and made sure the horse was okay instead of some people wipping the horse and stuff thinking that the horse is going to listen. I have great respect for her and she handled this amazingly 🩷
@bitbybitfarmseast3085
3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to ride at that level to see the tension, dreadful over bent frame, and the fact that disengaging his hindquarter and flexing him inside would take away his power to go vertical. Also horses usually act up in the same place. Turn around and if you have time on the clock enter from the other direction. This horse now knows how to get out of a situation he clearly dislike.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
The young horse spooked because of a judge. They aren't allowed to go from another side. She handled it well
@lauraamick463
3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful horse! Too bad he just wasn’t feeling it that day
@ngc4486diane
3 жыл бұрын
i don't think she did well nothing lovely about it either, i just feel sry for the horse i'm glad it protested about time most probably, that proves zero partnership. That's not an off day that's a seriously trained horse having a meltdown cause it's had enough. She kept pushing thou i'm glad he put his foot down plus 1 for the horse. Look how she backs him how his mouth is wide open not rough u say i wouldn't let her ride a beach donkey with hands like that. Nothing kind about her behaviour she new she was on show that backup was brutal seen enough.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
The horse spooked. He is young and that happens. She handled it lovely. You know nothing about horses.
@hannetjie4817
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Anyone could see the horse was not okay.!!
@jacquelineschnider3264
3 жыл бұрын
Tiere sind fühlende Weesen und sollten nicht für den Sport missbraucht werden. Egal für welchen auch immer.
@coldwhitespring5004
10 ай бұрын
What is this? I haven't seen this type of behavior before. The horse doesn't appear scared, and the behavior starts as soon as she ask something of the horse. When she stops, the horse stops. Is it in pain? And then she just goes straight to rollkur, this is painful to watch.
@sarahwagland1559
7 ай бұрын
Oh, it's definitely scared, scared of the pain it's experiencing.
@PhoenixderDritte
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how calm she handled that!
@joeyagirl
Жыл бұрын
So sorry you had to experience that. You handled it so well. ❤️
@sarahwagland1559
7 ай бұрын
She shouldn't have put her horse in that position. Clearly he is in pain and shouldn't be there.
@jesscvideo
3 жыл бұрын
Something was really bothering the horse, I wonder what was wrong?
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
The young horse spooked because of the judge
@coolerkittycattoy8795
3 жыл бұрын
Had horses for years. Never ONCE had one that refused to enter a show ring. This horse was abused in a ring and that is why he won't go in. Simple as that. Sad.
@loreangel23
3 жыл бұрын
Kitty my dear, absolutely correct. To me, that is what this horse was saying beyond a shadow of doubt.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
he got spooked because of a judge. He is young and still in training it happens
@dihamilton7611
3 жыл бұрын
If you really believe that, then I don't believe that you have even sat on a horse.
@mycrazyaklife
Жыл бұрын
Wonder what initially spooked him at the direction turn....he did okay going past in one direction, so what was either behind him or suddenly appeared? Either way, good handling by the rider.
@MaritvD
3 жыл бұрын
Love the way she handled this. Great rider who loves her horses
@HeidemarieMeincke
7 ай бұрын
Total überfordert, verweigert sich komplett, so sieht es aus wenn Pferde zur Hochleistung gezwungen werden.
@818nooner
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting it. Interesting to see the pros and how they handle off days.
@wednesdaymac
3 жыл бұрын
3rd such refusal to perform. Rolkur hurts. Might be seeing a few more horses with sore necks and wicked hands pulling on them saying, "no more" in the next few months.
@SongMom8
3 жыл бұрын
The rider remains very still and calm. I am impressed.
@ullalu7227
Ай бұрын
If horses say no… How would this scene play out at home?
@quitetidy
3 жыл бұрын
Mouth open, head tossing, rearing. All screaming "I hate this pressure and bit pain. Get me away."
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
you are stupid. The bit doesnt hurt if used correctly
@quitetidy
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 Any person who begins a sentence with "You're stupid..." says more about said person, their lack of good character, lack of knowledge, and says more about you than the person receiving. Horses do not open their mouths unless they have a bit in the mouth that has an overwhelming amount of pressure being applied. They were designed to create such a pressure for control. So it is being used for its unfortunate intended purpose. You'll never see a horse open its mouth like this without a bit in it.
@riderviv3061
3 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about. How's that? Professional here. Dressage is not your discipline is it? Foolish answer. But dressage hub is a cesspool of ignorant railbirds, so it is par for the course.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@quitetidy all of my horses open their mouth when they spook. And only 1 is currently riding with a bit. I have 2 dressage horses and 2 jumpers. Either you know nothing about horses or you're 9
@quitetidy
3 жыл бұрын
"Professionals" lol This is a title they believe to make their opinions count. If self -proclaimed "professionals" actually cares about the animal, they wouldn't be using all the tools that dressage demands. And I did do dressage. It was a disgusting practice and I couldn't stand the individuals in it. They were snotty, rude, and constantly using painful tools. It was absolutely pathetic and my horses don't misbehave like this when I take them anywhere. They're quiet and they DON'T open their mouths because there is NO PAIN. 🤦🏼♀️
@khalfani414
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone saying that this is normal is dead wrong. This should've never happened in the first place. If a horse is correctly trained and schooled, and is ridden by a firm, soft, confident rider, and they have a bond of trust (that ANYONE should have with their horse, especially upper level riders), this would absolutely never happen. There's something going on deeper than this, either it's an extremely insecure rider, or the horse is incorrectly trained and has been trained using abusive 'shortcuts' and the horse had just had enough, or it's a combination of these plus the fact that the horse has zero trust in its rider and there's not really a bond there. This is dangerous, and this is sad. The horse doesn't even want to enter the ring. There's something going on here, and the fact that the horse was threatening to rear and then tried to rear?? That's blatantly disrespectful and would never happen if the horse was correctly trained and schooled, and the rider was trustworthy. The horse is either really scared, in pain, or both.
@dihamilton7611
3 жыл бұрын
They're a living being, not a robot.
@JeanPaul-eu5tn
3 жыл бұрын
Good on her! Class act it’s hard to stay cool when the horses get rattled how soft her haves there was something not right..... probably the smallest of things bless..... I still love this combination. ❤️
@katiebaby60
3 жыл бұрын
on a brighter note it was the first time i have seen a horse doing a moon walk,very mpressed
@nobordernonation8155
3 жыл бұрын
Why is she overflexing his neck? That has nothing to do with kind hands. If a horse has no possibility to go elsewhere it goes upwards. Stopp using all those harsh bits not letting the horse any possibility to refuse.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
She left in the end allowing him to refuse. This bit doesn't hurt if used correctly and she isn't overflexing his neck. That's just how dressage looks
@nobordernonation8155
3 жыл бұрын
Don't agree. If dressage looks like this it is overflexion.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@nobordernonation8155 From this angle it looks like that. But it isn't. I recomment you go check out her training videos
@inesschaible6046
3 жыл бұрын
She petted him to encourage and calm down. But she worked backwards with her hands and he rolled up as if he would be handled always that way.
@carolinegade208
3 жыл бұрын
Duh
@juliabales8141
2 жыл бұрын
Her hands looked pretty forward to me
@Blue2816
3 жыл бұрын
the true disaster here. are the judges in all of grand prix and below.
@frischknechtdanny2188
3 жыл бұрын
This wasn’t, just a bad day, this is an overflexed horse, suffering and sailing no - poor animal
@frischknechtdanny2188
3 жыл бұрын
Saying not sailing…
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
The young horse spooked because of a judge. It's normal surely for a young horse
@rocknewsswitzerland
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShikadaiNara10 sorry, but this is bullshit! look at 0:14 seconds - is that hyperflexion or not? besides, Bohemian is eleven years old, still a young horse, but nevertheless very experienced in competition, has won several shows in 2020 with Dufour. i don't call that a "spooky young horse". there are still too many excuses for horses being tortured and mistreated in professional sport for the sake of success. the riders lack insight and their "love" for their partner horse is mendacious.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
@@rocknewsswitzerland Every horse spooks once in awhile. How expierenced they are doesn't really matter. This was his first show in a long time so he felt a bit nervous. All horses need to be vet checked before competitions so it couldnt have been pain. She has video's on how she trains her horses. Might wanna check that out. It didn't look anywhere close to hyperflexion the horse just spooked
@cottoncandy4486
3 жыл бұрын
Just got in from the paddock, devastated my boy is lame, no signs just a bunny hop when the saddle went on so stopped there. Wonder when she felt he was just not right, he clearly wanted just to get outa there. Her soft hands and calm manner gave him every chance , but just not today. When they tell you you just gotta listen. Pity they did not let us know if they found a problem or he just was not in the mood.
@belindaransby2357
3 жыл бұрын
I would say after seeing that the horse has just about had enough of it all. It will more than likely do the very same thing next time. Not a happy horse. Do something else with it.
@jonjonwp
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a months holiday and hacking to get him mentally in balance again.
@ShikadaiNara10
3 жыл бұрын
The young horse just spooked
@patriciastaton6182
3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video, love how she was gentle and got him through something probably spooked him or felt uncomfortable, good video I wish everybody would watch this only thing I wasn't liking was the actual song in the video because this is really called a victory video she made it through 💌
@delmondtrion3934
5 ай бұрын
What a clever horse!
@alicehicks9500
3 ай бұрын
That horse is completely destroyed from brutal rhol kur and has been made so helpless and beaten in spirit Beyond cruelty 😢
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