I feel like getting rid of Sydney's original trams was purely a political decision and perhaps instigated by lobbyism from oil and auto companies wishing to make money from increased car and bus use.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
While there may have been pressure from oil companies, in virtually the entire English speaking world from the 1950s if not sooner, replacing trams with buses will simply ‘the modem thing to do’. France, Spain, Greece and a few other countries felt the same. And they all thought that running buses would be cheaper.
@fotoelba
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 the entire English speaking world except Melbourne.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Melbourne was the only English-speaking city to keep about 95% of Its tramway. Other cities kept a small number of lines including Adelaide, Blackpool in England, Toronto in Canada, and half a dozen US cities mainly thanks to having portion of their remaining lines using a tunnel somewhere.
@arokh72
2 жыл бұрын
NSW Govt: Let's encourage people to use public transport. Also NSW Govt: Let's hobble public transport with ridiculously slow speed limits, and little signal priority.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
I suspect it is the bureaucrats doing the hobbling, and if politicians query this, they are bombarded with gobbledegook. Traffic light people only think in terms of cars per minute, not people per minute while TfNSW has loved buses since the 1930s.
@royburnell4169
3 жыл бұрын
A great video. My working career was in the heart of Sydney for 45 years, retired, then moved from Sydney to Redcliffe Qld 20 years ago; and now George Street has changed so much, I find it hard to recognize most of it. I loved the old trams of the 1950s and I'm sure when all the roadwork has been finished, Sydney will again have a great tram system.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
I just had minor contact with the city in my teen years and by the time I worked there, all that was left was a bit of half buried tramline which ended outside Australia Square but I don’t remember whether the remaining rail was towards circular Quay or towards Townhall. It will be interesting to see what they do in the southern half of George Street. Just three lines hardly makes a network compared with what Sydney used to have, but it is a good start, not that I expect there will be any extensions or other lines built owing to the ridiculous costs of this latest pair of lines.
@royburnell4169
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 When I saw your KZitem name, I thought you may have been a 3D modeller with Trainz. I'd built a Sydney CBD and Sydney Harbour route with rail and ferries. I'm now working on a 1950s era with the Red rattlers, Sydney Trams of that era, Ferries and Flying Boats from Rose Bay. I'd also made some KZitem videos of my route which are listed under my name.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
I checked your name on KZitem and watched the short video of Central at night. It looks like you are into computer animations of trains. While the name ‘red rattler’ applied to Melbourne’s ancient wooden electric trains for quite some decades, that the derogatory term was coined by the media only a few years before Sydney’s single deck electric trains were pensioned off. Today fans generally call them “Red sets”. As for modelling, if you look for Gold Coast model trams you’ll find a few videos of my backyard line.
@royburnell4169
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Yes, you're right! I've been into 'Trainz' since 2004. There have been many computer program upgrades over the years. I used to have a HO gauge layout, but then you are tied to the same format. Trainz has given me the opportunity to create as many routes as I like, or run other guys train layouts from all over the world. I did check your Gold Coast Tram video and also saw the others. I did like your La Peruse Via Malabar 'O' Scale video. Fantastic! Did you do the work on that one? Cheers, Roy
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
We all have our different likes within the hobby. Often preparing my own videos takes so much time that I don’t feel like watching videos by other people. As for the O scale layout, it was built by John Wallace and the day I took video of it was the only time I have seen it.
@realjohnboxall
3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, thank you. By golly that thing is slow.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately having most of George Street a pedestrian zone and further down, subject to roadworks, does not help at all. Unfortunately bureaucrats have too much say into just how fast the trams can go while a speed limit of 50 km/h for all traffic on Anzac Parade is also ludicrous. Don’t overlook the fact that quite a few intersections on this line have traffic light priority, something totally lacking in Melbourne.
@tonyhworks
3 жыл бұрын
I find it excruciating to ride. For 8.5 km and the fairly low number of stops per distance (not to mention some traffic light priority), it should do the trip in max 25 minutes.
@michaelhatton2477
3 жыл бұрын
The video makes it look slower that it actually is in reality for some reason.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
It all depends how much zoom is on the camera. If it is zoomed back too much, while the trip will look faster, there is likely to be a lot more of the picture taken up with window pillars, the driver’s head or shoulder or other unwanted distractions.
@Woodland26
3 жыл бұрын
Tram stops in the suburbs a lot safer than those in Melbourne where one get off in the middle of the road. Yes the cars should stop for the passengers but accidents happens. Imagine take 3 young kids on the trams visiting Melbourne..
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Certainly alighting onto a platform is safer, but alighting from trams in Melbourne takes a simple bit of common sense - look to make sure all the cars have stopped before stepping out. It’s amazing how many people do not look, just like they step onto the road at pedestrian crossings or when the green man comes on at the lights, and assume that the motorist will stop. Assuming everybody in life will do exactly what they’re supposed to do is a major mistake
@torpaninternational8351
3 жыл бұрын
Noted : comment regarding Bridge Street a van etc --- ; Trams should obey tragic lights.The trams in Sydney rarely have " a full tram load ". I cant understand why the comment mentioned --- a tram should not be delayed by passengers -- what else should a tram have to do without - passengers. It's about time the inouncements are still retained --- boring for. locals However ,another good production.! Juniors Kingsford , a good feed!
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
I was not suggesting for a moment that trams ignore traffic lights. The complaint was that traffic lights at such an insignificant street should be easily programmed to favour the trams as soon as they approach the intersection. As for the passengers delaying the tram, it should have been obvious to you that people who have just got off the tram should not be able to activate the pedestrian crossing when the tram was within seconds of departing the stop. I have no complaint about the brief stop announcements being made. I do however complain about the long winded trivial announcements on my local Gold Coast tram. I don’t think the Juniors club itself was intended to be a destination. It just happens to be at a rather wide section of Anzac Parade where building a bus interchange could easily be fitted in.
@TheFinalMinutes
3 жыл бұрын
Its almost as though a bureaucrat said: "Lets put in one of those lovely tram systems they have in Melbourne... but make it a whole lot slower". Parts of that were excruciatingly slow.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
It nevertheless travels 1 km further in the same 34 minutes as Melbourne showpiece route 96 from East Brunswick to Saint Kilda. And that line does not have to suffer 2 km with a speed limit of 20 km/h.
@TheFinalMinutes
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1true, I'll give you that!
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
👍😊😄
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
2 жыл бұрын
hope to go on it one day glad they brought back light rail to Sydney again since the 1960s
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Covid will settle and make travel a lot easier.
@astapic
3 жыл бұрын
Great video with informative titles and the dwell times taken out.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice that you like the way I do these things 😊👍
@astapic
3 жыл бұрын
other you tubers should take a leaf out of your book on how to make good videos
@tonyhworks
3 жыл бұрын
tresselteg1 is best in Australia for cab videos. As a tram system planner before I retired, I always found the realtime Czech cab videos on KZitem very useful for analysing performance and identifying factors that make for better or worse journeys. It always annoyed me that many KZitemrs edited stop dwells out of cab videos and you couldn't get a true picture of journey time. The reason was of course that the wait at stops gets a bit boring. tresselteg1 has struck a happy compromise where the dwells are edited out but the times are provided in subtitles, so you can add up the whole journey at the end. His subtitle comments along the way are useful too. Another great cab ride thanks.
@RichardFelstead1949
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that Sydney again has trams.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The L1 opened around 1998 but these two opened in late 2019 and early 2020. Unfortunately the arrival of Covid has depressed ridership numbers.
@scottyerkes1867
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting ride. Reverse direction of a video yesterday. This line has many very well pkanned prw along with street running. Another aspect....the pantograph down for power pick up from the center rail.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
A very large percentage of this line runs exactly where trams ran before. All of George Street is exactly the same. Eddy Avenue past Central Station, the trams are running next to where they ran before. Between Moore Park and the junction with the L2, trams are beside where they used to run before and all along the street after that, they are exactly where they were before. Better traffic light priority at several places would help running times a lot.
@scottyerkes1867
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Thank you for your input.😀😀
@katefromaust5627
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tressteleg1 - great video as always! I love your work, as you know! May I just ask though; I am just a little confused; do you drive trams in Melbourne (which I thought you were based here), Sydney & the Gold Coast? I wish my Dad were around to see your work. He would have adored it!
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Well here it is - I grew up in Sydney, lived in Wollongong for awhile, drove Melbourne trams 1988 to 94, and now live on the Gold Coast. I’m sorry that your dad is not still around.
@ryanrnsmith
3 жыл бұрын
The amount of pedestrians doing the wrong thing, including but not limited to crossing on red, astounds me. It makes me realise why the speed limit for the light rail is so slow. Unfortunately no government is brave enough to speed things up and accept a few injuries or casualties, it would be “the light rail’s fault” if a pedestrian was killed.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
I used to drive the Bourke Street Mall in Melbourne and watching the pedestrians in these videos, none of them would have caused me any alarm or worries. After driving in such situations for a while, you become aware of who looks likely to walk into your path and who will stay away. At times the 20 km speed limit could be too fast, and other times much slower than sensible. Unfortunately these days, bureaucrats set speed limits and drivers’ judgement does not come into it. Melbourne now has a 10 km/h speed limit in the Bourke Street Mall and even that is too fast at times. Nowadays they seem to like to blame the tram driver even if an irresponsible pedestrian brought about their own downfall. I don’t know whether the speed limit from Town hall to Hay Street will be increased, but unfortunately there is a fear that it will not be.
@pj8143
2 жыл бұрын
Do the trams in Sydney CBD have their own lanes separate from the the main traffic not like Melbourne where the trams have to share the road with other vehicles? Sorry I have never been to Sydney. Thank for sharing excellent video.🙂
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that it would be perfectly obvious from the video that nowhere in Sydney do cars run along the tram line. Buses do in a few select locations but cars do not.
@chrismckellar9350
3 жыл бұрын
I still feel operating a single 5 segment 'tram' set would increase running times through the CBD and around Central Station where there are 'tight' corners. L2/L3 operates a 'train' tram operation in a grade street system instead of dedicate right of way track which coupled 5 segment light rail/tram set's can achieve better running times. I do agree with your comments about 'T' priority phasing at traffic lights.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Running single units would cause traffic lights to block cross traffic twice as often and overall for longer periods of time. While trams should get priority, like it or not, roads have to be shared with other uses. On my time driving Melbourne trams, I saw that the more frequent the headway, the greater the chance of bunching and the ‘sheep’ always try to pack onto the first (overloaded) tram in the convoy even if the second one is empty, and that snowballs the delays. After all, on the L3, there are only four 90° curves which take longer to go around - leaving Alfred, George, Eddie, and Chalmers. There’s no reason at all why coupled sets would be slower. Fixing the handful of traffic lights not giving trams priority would shave off much more time than a few seconds going around corners.
@mce_AU
3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
😊👍
@ThePunter29
2 жыл бұрын
I used to deliver beer kegs in Sydney CBD. Looking at some of the places I used to go to I wonder how on earth they do it with the changes.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Unless things have been built where the delivery trucks would go, normally in locations like this truck deliveries are only permitted at certain times, probably overnight, but for Sydney I am only guessing.
@kcobley
3 жыл бұрын
It's an equivalent time to the old bus route to Kingsford.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Probably so, but a much quieter and more comfortable ride than jolting buses and a greater chance you’ll get a seat as well, not to mention punctuality being a lot better in most cases.
@jeffevans5307
2 жыл бұрын
The van at 1:43 was carrying Philter and Willie the Boatman beers. Definitely essential!
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Well it never visited the tram!
@Carlomunroxx
2 жыл бұрын
I think you would be a pretty good light rail driver
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
When I was a tram driver at South Melbourne Depot, I tried to give my passengers a fast but smooth ride. In the six years, I never had anybody fall over on my tram.
@marshallpoe8087
6 ай бұрын
There were pedestrians walking faster than this tram in town.
@tressteleg1
6 ай бұрын
The “experts“ have dictated that the speed limit in George Street is 20 km/h, and busy or not, that is the speed limit for the tram drivers unfortunately. Incidentally I’m doing a comparison test between tram and bus from Randwick and the results are quite surprising, especially in the city. Maybe ready Friday, maybe Friday next week.
@hishamw6755
2 жыл бұрын
If the traffic cycle is already on, then the tram waits.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
This Sydney line is very variable. Some locations have good priority where the tram will cause lights to change while some have none, but since that visit improvements have been made in a number of locations. I see it as a work still in progress.
@jameskennedy7409
2 жыл бұрын
I wish if Port Macquarie had a light rail one day
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t hold your breath! With all the fiddling around that takes place, even after it is first firmly proposed, it’s usually something like 10 years before anything is running. Is the council or anybody else pressing for such a line?
@YishaiBarr
2 жыл бұрын
I can't really tell, is half an hour a reasonable time to get to Kingsford? It just seems so slow.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you are familiar with Melbourne‘s showpiece tram route 96, from East Brunswick in the North, through the city centre to the corner of Spencer Street and Flinders Street, but midmorning a tram takes about 34 minutes, the same time as Sydney. I checked distances with the help of Google Maps some time ago, and this is about 1 km shorter than the Sydney line, over the same time. Admittedly the Melbourne line has more tram stops, but there is nowhere that trams cause the traffic lights to change their favour, Unlike the Sydney line. So for a passenger getting from A to B, the Melbourne trip overall is slower even if there might be bursts of faster speeds.
@lachd2261
11 ай бұрын
The 393/395 buses from Central were no quicker than that because they always used to get stuck at several places, especially Cleveland St. if anything the light rail is quicker because there are fewer stops.
@sydneyharbourtransport1029
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like bridge street is so close to Wynyard
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Less than 1km to the tunnel mouths
@georgejones6696
Жыл бұрын
It is
@alwayslight2658
Жыл бұрын
Great video but quality is poor. Consider to go 4k. Stay well, drive safe.
@tressteleg1
Жыл бұрын
For a few years, I have been using a Sony FDR X - 3000. I’ve never been real happy with the results although it is set to 4K. Very recently I realised that using digital zoom meant that only a small proportion of the image sensor was being used, reducing sharpness. I have since bought a GoPro 8 and did a comparison video of my local Gold Coast tram using both cameras side-by-side, and both at the wide-angle setting. You will see the result next week, and although both cameras produced good results, the GoPro was a tiny bit sharper. Wait and see.
@abelsuisse9671
Жыл бұрын
Gosh this is so painful to watch. Why are the trams so slow in the first section? The 20 kmh limit seems ridiculous, there tram tracks are clearly separated from the main pedestrianised street
@tressteleg1
Жыл бұрын
Little by little the trips are getting faster as the traffic light people are forced to give trams better priority but unfortunately speed limits like the 20km/h in George St appear to be determined by people who have never driven trams. When obviously nobody is close to straying onto the tracks, faster speed would be quite safe although around lunchtime, 20 could in fact be too fast. Drivers should be allowed to assess the situation themselves and go a bit faster especially if running late. But even in Melbourne these zealots are taking over and their Bourke Street Mall has a 10 km/h speed limit which is at times too slow, and other times too fast. But drivers are not allowed to decide things for themselves any more.
@jamesbradley7306
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Speeds too conservative, perhaps, and priority / approach speeds too restrictive. Suggest send them to Gold Coast / Canberra for a lesson [and take Adelaide with them].
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately speeds are set by bureaucrats and more likely the city council. True, priority lights should come up a few seconds earlier but it’s much better than Melbourne which has none. As for Adelaide, while there is no problem with the Glenelg line, last time I was there traffic lights on the city streets were absolutely woeful for the trams.
@Absolute_Zero7
2 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem - look at how many people are just casually crossing the street. Faster trams means a higher risk of hitting a pedestrian that inexplicably decided to jump out onto the tracks - as such the simple solution is to have the trams run slow enough that they can always stop in case there's an idiot on the road.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that’s why they dictated a 20 km/h speed limit. As a former tram driver in Melbourne, often working through the Bourke Street Mall, none of those pedestrians did anything that would have scared me if driving.
@Absolute_Zero7
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 I am speaking as a Torontonian - where we have a pretty massive legacy streetcar network. We used to operate all of our streetcars at fairly high speeds - however every time there was an accident, the immediate solution was to "slow down the streetcars". It has finally reached a point where a route that went from operating in mixed traffic to operating in its own dedicated lanes back in 2009, is operating SLOWER than it did during the mixed traffic days. Unfortunately, responding to accidents by slowing down trains is the only way politicians know how to improve safety lest they get sued - and I doubt that its any different in Sydney. As such, new street running tram systems that have the track running extremely close to pedestrians almost universally seem to have low operating speeds nowadays.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
I went to Toronto at least once, but that was years ago now. As for original tramways, when I drove in Melbourne the only speed limit was the road speed limit but in the case of the W class trams, they generally couldn’t go that fast anyway. In a few other special places, speed limits were set but usually to do with junctions etc. What slows down Melbourne most is the stupid policy of paying the contract operator bonuses for on time running, and fines charged for being late so running times are forever being extended to keep the bonuses up. New - start light rail schemes have another different problem. Governments know nothing about the subject so call in consultants. Nobody is trained to be a Light Rail consultant and so-called experts come along and they are from a heavy rail background so just like a railway, every metre of track has a stipulated speed limit. When I drove trams in Melbourne, you can feel what is the best comfortable speed to go around curves. Slowly but surely the academic ‘experts’ are starting to set more and more speed limits but to date most drivers ignore the silly ones. As for the limits in George Street Sydney, at busy times of day 20 km is quite fast enough and maybe too fast here and there but at a lot quiet times, 30 or so would probably be quite safe but tram drivers no longer are allowed to think for themselves. Cutting a speed limit after accidents and installing more limiting options at traffic lights seems the solution on roads.
@graememellor8319
3 жыл бұрын
With those speeds you could just about walk quicker from Circular Quay to Central
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Before getting too critical, you should compare it with Melbourne’s equivalent showpiece route, the 96 from East Brunswick to Saint Kilda. With the Sydney end to end times being 33 minutes, it’s to be noted that the 96 takes 34 minutes to get from East Brunswick to Batman Park, a distance of only 7.4km, and Melbourne does not have 2 km with the speed limit of 20 km/h. More stops admittedly, but all the passenger is worried about is point to point time.
@robertgambling502
2 жыл бұрын
The camera lens being in telephoto compressing the scene gives the illusion of slow going. Change the viewing speed to 2 for a faster ride. The audio still comes out pretty good.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertgambling502 You can see that the left side windscreen pillar is already intruding into the view and greater wide angle would make this even more obtrusive. If the camera is placed more to the right, the drivers head would be similarly in the way. Additionally, this camera lens has a degree of fisheye effect and this is also much more noticeable in wide-angle. To me, the speed looks reasonably realistic but of course everybody has their own idea.
@johnely5050
2 жыл бұрын
It is actually a jog not a walk.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed. Melbourne’s equivalent and very much shorter Bourke St Mall currently has a 10km/h speed limit. When I drove it 1988-94, there was no specified speed limit. Drivers just used their brains according to conditions. Nobody got run over by trams. At times 20km/h in George St could be too fast, other times too slow. But bureaucrats won’t let drivers think these days.
@stevesnow1614
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a good job? Or is it very stressful? hard to stay on time etc
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Well as a former Melbourne tram driver, I would rate this line dead easy with stress. No cars on or cutting across the tracks. In the several videos I have done in George St, not all published, no pedestrians seen would have alarmed me in the least. As for staying on time, after driving for a month or two you should be driving with confidence and up to the speed limits. If traffic lights or other outside causes make you late, not your worry. The only 2 important times are getting to the depot on time for meal break and going home. Whether it is a nice company to work for, I would not know.
@stevesnow1614
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 thankyou for the feedback 👍 it looks like a great job. I have been a bus driver for the past 5 years but I’m starting to feel like it’s time for a change of scenery. It might never happen for me but operating those things do look like a lot of fun 👍👍👍
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
The main thing you would have to deal with is the tedium of going up and down the same 2 lines every day.
@Roadrunnerz45
3 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 well said. probably getting to the depot on time for your shift as well. remember for the meal break it is prescribed by law 30 minutes after max 5 hrs, if you're late not you're problem, that's for the controllers to worry about who get paid a helluva lot more than drivers.
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
Well any job expects you to be there on time. Generally on a line like that, unless there is a major disruption to the service, you are not likely to be more than a few minutes late. The recovery time at each terminus is plenty and mostly drivers should be able to start the next trip on time. Some people might be scared by close pedestrians but unless you see them disappear below the front apron of the tram, it was not a close shave. And if you are so late that your meal break will be less than 30 minutes, another driver should be sent out to take over your run.
@dallelassaad5883
3 жыл бұрын
Can you upload the l1 line Updated version please
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I managed to record an outbound trip. On two subsequent visits, I have tried to video the inbound trip and been told to stop doing it by three or four drivers at least. I don’t know why they are so unhelpful on the L1 because every single driver I asked on the L2 and L3 last April were happy for me to go ahead and do so, and it is the same company. So sorry, I can’t help you with that.
@Dave_Sisson
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, but those constant, repetitive *loud* announcements would make me want to reprogramme the PA system with a large axe.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
If you had to put up with a constant blabbering on the Gold Coast tram, as I do once or twice each week, you would be grateful for the short sharp Sydney announcements. Possibly there was a speaker right above the camera which makes it sound louder than it is. The Yap Yap Blah Blah Earbashing Gold Coast Tram with Comparisons kzitem.info/news/bejne/k69-3HyinmSKnYI
@georgejones6696
Жыл бұрын
God forbid you hear what stop you're coming to lmao Nah but irl they aren't that loud
@Dave_Sisson
Жыл бұрын
@@georgejones6696 I suspect you have not had to endure a *LOUD* announcement every minute or two on your daily commute making listening to a podcast impossible and even conversation difficult. They have visual displays and hearing aid links, so people who have never been on a tram before can still be informed about the stops.
@tressteleg1
Жыл бұрын
I doubt if Mr Jones is a regular user. Just try chatting to a friend on a trip. Tram 05 has been bellowing for months, 15 little better, and most are louder than necessary. And the verbosity and inanity is another matter again. I’m on 09 as I write this.
@georgejones6696
Жыл бұрын
@@Dave_Sisson I know, they are pretty loud but I really don’t remember it being that dramatic lol
@jimcambron1328
3 жыл бұрын
How do they manage having a third rail on the pavement without creating the danger of electrocution of pedestrians?
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
If you look closely at the third rail in the middle, the long dark stretches are the steel power supply and the short white sections are insulation material. The steel sections are only alive when a tram is over them and the rest of the time they are dead. Nevertheless I choose never to step on the metal sections.
@jimcambron1328
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Interesting!
@Delta-pantages
2 жыл бұрын
Why 20 kph? It's ridiculously slow. What is the limit for motor traffic?
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Zero for motor traffic. It is a pedestrian mall, just like Melbourne’s Bourke St Mall which now has a 10km/h speed limit. When plenty of pedestrians are around, 20 km could be too fast, but late at night when nobody is around, it’s too slow but these days drivers are not allowed to think for themselves. So goes the modern world.
@Delta-pantages
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Thanks for that. I never knew such a slow limit in any city
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
When drove Bourke St trams around 1990, no particular speed limit was specified. We just drove according to the conditions. People were not getting run over. But now the academics and health and safety idiots are controlling everything.
@Delta-pantages
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Common snese is dead!
@cbj063
3 жыл бұрын
This is just bulk slow. With all the disruption to traffic flow and rerouting busses, you'd think they'd come up with a much more efficient system than this. The train below is still much faster.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
One afternoon I caught a bus back to town which went quite directly via Oxford St and Elizabeth St etc. It took 27 minutes and dumped us off south of Bridge St, a long walk to Circular Quay. So catch the mode which takes you closest to your destination.
@georgejones6696
Жыл бұрын
I think that expanding the monorail would have been a much better idea tbh
@Delta-pantages
2 жыл бұрын
Is the word 'tram' deemed to be offensive. Think of the paint they would save on the road markings!
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Management and the Department of transport are fooling themselves that their ‘light rail vehicles’ are something besides trams. Overseas, these are just the evolution from the trams running around 50 and more years ago. I expect that at least 90% of the population will simply call them trams, no matter what.
@Delta-pantages
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Or "Streetcars" - just to be different. It's interesting how universal the word 'tram' is regardless of language or culture.
@295a5
3 жыл бұрын
Painfully slow journey, traffic priority is a major issue. Hate to think what it was before.
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Melbourne‘s route 96 is seen as a showcase line, however from East Brunswick towards Saint Kilda around the same time of day, in 34 minutes it only reaches Batman Park, a distance of 7.4 km, 1 km less than the Sydney L2 and L3 go in about the same time. Admittedly the 96 has more stops, but is is not saddled with 2 km of 20 km/h speed limit. And no traffic lights in Melbourne give trams priority which many intersections in Sydney do have.
@CARambolagen
Жыл бұрын
God! It's SO slow
@tressteleg1
Жыл бұрын
Little by little the line is being speeded up. It’s now 32 minutes inbound, 31 minutes outbound. Tomorrow’s video will be a tram vs bus ‘race’.
@CARambolagen
Жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Thanks!
@k.h.4698
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the need to document all the timetable data. Can’t we just enjoy the video, maybe just show the stop names?
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Some viewers are interested in the logistics of running a Tramway, not just staring at pretty videos. The L2 and L3 have often been accused of slow running, not always justified, and those times help to show what delays the trams. Occasionally people comment that they like my information and you come as the 1st to complain. Anyway there must be plenty of other video of these lines which won’t bother you with unwanted captions.
@HN-ip4gi
2 жыл бұрын
you could walk to the the distance faster then this snail runs
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Well it goes a greater distance in its 34 minutes than Melbourne’s Showpiece Route 96 from East Brunswick towards St Kilda Beach.
@georgejones6696
Жыл бұрын
If you think you can walk it faster, do that. Nobody's stopping you.
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