"Literally who cares if I beat it?" Phil is sabotaging his own business model.
@keerokamiya9126
10 ай бұрын
The egregious part is he still expects MONEY for this content
@SpiritCrumpler
10 ай бұрын
This is coming out of the snout of the pig who claims he is the "king of retro" Hilarious.
@aeroosprey
10 ай бұрын
He's becoming self aware
@DarkPatro56
10 ай бұрын
The equivalent to "I won't gonna do it, boss. Snort off ACK ACK ACK!". That's why he's jobless. That's why he has to resort to simple things like gaming. That's why he can't and won't grow as a content creator/streamer. That's why he has to beg.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
10 ай бұрын
I thoguht he said he had to finish all the games lok
@SouthernMenace
10 ай бұрын
Can't you feel the love for gaming just oozing from this amazing personality?
@egghgfe6116
10 ай бұрын
one of the best overall gamers in the country dood
@Cmygo
10 ай бұрын
I don't want to feel something oozing out of him 🤮
@mr.bootyass
10 ай бұрын
Smells like alcohol and disappointment🤢🤢🤢
@jtmarin04
10 ай бұрын
Clearly he is excited to "work" everyday
@sswpp8908
10 ай бұрын
0:51 "It's all trial-and-error beginner's trap stuff" THERE ARE COINS AT EVERY JUMP SHOWING YOU WHERE TO GO!
@TinoR626
10 ай бұрын
Wrong, he owns the game you troll.
@rez7437
10 ай бұрын
Beginner's trap? This is the final test for the player level-wise *how* is anything in it considered a Beginner's trap? Never change Phillip Pigroach green
@mikefidborg1
10 ай бұрын
You can't expect a genius like Phil to realize that without the joint brain trust of dents telling him that.
@Daaave05
10 ай бұрын
Thought the old school Mario was near and dear to his heart. "I grew up on that, dude."
@BigRobertsons
10 ай бұрын
that's the best part, his favorite Mario game is World, but he hated Yoshi's Island because it was more challenging
@nwerd7584
10 ай бұрын
the thing is he never played a single retro game til about a decade-ish ago. Hes a liar. The FIRST TIME he played DKC was like 3 or 4 years ago now. King of Retrp was cope. If he couldn't get a wolverine hows he supposed to get a expensive console and a 50 dollar game at the time.
@thesamejackalsniperthatkil117
2 ай бұрын
That's all cope from him. He probably barely remembers playing any mario game at all.
@Brafle
10 ай бұрын
Im glad Phil lives in a electromagnetic field that makes it so all of his controllers for every console drops inputs
@Lum2022
10 ай бұрын
The world is out to get him, dood. The toughness just never ends.
@henrynelson9301
10 ай бұрын
There’s a magnet museum right next to his house
@JustinTrudeau1971
9 ай бұрын
Space needle
@StinkyBuster
10 ай бұрын
I love that he brought himself as low as playing the character for toddlers before ragequitting 😂
@tylerlackey1175
10 ай бұрын
He's probably one of the best overall toddlers in the country
@smward87
10 ай бұрын
He was under the impression Yoshi/Nabbit couldn't die at all the entire playthrough. They just take no damage from enemies, which are non-consequential and pointless anyways. That's how much little thought he puts into the games he plays. Refuses to even learn the mechanics and then gets mad when his incorrect pre-conceived notion is false.
@milkinobama8160
10 ай бұрын
By the way, every final Mario level has no checkpoint in it. It’s supposed to be a final test for the player. So Nintendo giving the player a checkpoint in this level is actually a mercy on their part
@keerokamiya9126
10 ай бұрын
I tell you one thing his ass would NEVER beat Celeste. One of the hardest platformers ever made, with very little in the way of checkpoints after certain longer rooms.
@jonnybrello4360
10 ай бұрын
Checkpoint? In Mario? I must be too old... Not as old as Snorty over here though.
@Trouble031
10 ай бұрын
I dont know how i beat celeste
@omegashenron8
10 ай бұрын
@@jonnybrello4360yeah I'm thinking the same thing here. Mario has check points? Since when?
@daytonablue2041
10 ай бұрын
@@omegashenron8Mario has had cp I think since Super Mario 3. About half way through a stage or so.
@Maye1918
10 ай бұрын
For those wondering, there ARE checkpoints in this level. If you notice when dave starts the level after dying, hes at a checkpoint. The point of this level is that there are checkpoints after every 3-ish sections. The fact that they have them AT ALL makes this one of the easier final mario challenge levels. I normally don't comment but I've had enough
@woolcaparmy
10 ай бұрын
"even though youve already mastered it" *misses jump and dies*
@MrB0Obs
10 ай бұрын
he decided around 10 lives left he was just gonna bitch and moan until he has no lives left and can rage quit
@BotchPro
10 ай бұрын
"Who cares if I beat it?" He tried to 100% the entire game, chokes on the finish line and copes with I don't care lmao. Never change Philipo (lover of horses and doordash)
@TinoR626
10 ай бұрын
To 100% the game you need to get all the flower coins and exits. If he beat the level and then found that out oh God you know he would be pissed because he didn't collect everything. This game takes about 8-9 hours to 100%. Well at least that's about what I spent in the game.
@lawlessx9
10 ай бұрын
Let me guess..this game was amazing and a "return to form" for classic mario right untill he got to this part😅
@LaowaiinFuzou
10 ай бұрын
its weird. It started being a crappy game when the tips started stalling. What a coincidence
@FatJesus123456789
10 ай бұрын
I beat this game last night, it’s definitely challenging and it reminds me of Mario 3d world. Hard level on the last part. I had to do it 2x unfortunately I didn’t get the flag on first try lol. But got all 6 badges
@FatJesus123456789
10 ай бұрын
@@LaowaiinFuzouand he didn’t even get to the hardest parts lol
@VileOkami
10 ай бұрын
@@FatJesus123456789 Ha, same. Thankfully the second time was much easier. I really only struggled on two parts. Bouncing between the fire poles and bouncing on the fish at the very end.
@Clamfaced
10 ай бұрын
He's said its the best 2D Mario since the Wii
@MsGhoulz
10 ай бұрын
Weird how Phil's passion for gaming depends on the amount of money made.....
@daltonbolser5100
10 ай бұрын
if he had hit his tip goal i guarantee he would be laughing and joking at all the deaths. his motivation is the 💰 😂😂
@StrugglerChad
10 ай бұрын
This is Kirby Souls all over again and it’s god tier level khantent.
@andre.mateus
10 ай бұрын
It's always the same. Starts a game all happy with full clown mode activated and slowly turns into a raging manchild once it starts to show some challenge, and eventually: a ragequit!
@milkinobama8160
10 ай бұрын
It actually pisses me off when Phil says a hard part of a video game is disrespectful to the player. I bet Nintendo is crying right now because some random streamer doesn’t like their final level.
@MaztRPwn
10 ай бұрын
That'd make From Soft absolutely depressed😂😂
@cloudshines812
10 ай бұрын
Or Iwata’s pissing in his grave
@Ikhaho
10 ай бұрын
Swiping of the tears with the 70 dollars payed by Phil. :D
@AirahsELL
9 ай бұрын
Remember he ragequit Kirby and cheesed Odyssey as well.
@CapitalPSY
10 ай бұрын
Wow, it's almost like the bonus secret level(s) of any Mario game dating back to Super Mario World is going to be really tough with limited to no checkpoints. And I like how he uses the excuse of grinding for lives when the level starts you off at the beginning no matter what (making the concept of lives meaningless). I bet he was mad there was no exploit he could use like Dark Side of the Moon in Odyssey to say he beat it.
@NinBendo1
10 ай бұрын
This level is a bit difficult, but the game isn’t. I literally had 99 lives by the time I got to this level. How he has nowhere close is genuinely beyond me.
@goofpatrol
10 ай бұрын
you can also literally buy lives at the shop in special world
@NinBendo1
10 ай бұрын
@@goofpatrol Yeah you can. If you’ve completed everything 100% up to that point, you can straight up buy 99 lives. But no one told Phil that so he obviously has “no way” of knowing
@SpiritCrumpler
10 ай бұрын
@@NinBendo1 Dude didnt get 50 rings in Sonic until the credits, thats the only time he turned super sonic? or whatever its called lol. He is trash at every game he touches.
@Doge-bz3vj
10 ай бұрын
What a Nintendo fan he is Look at how much fun he is having
@CFronTV
10 ай бұрын
why is phil so concerned all the time about respecting time when he spends his entire day sitting at home playing videogames anyways
@craigsovilla6578
10 ай бұрын
Cause he could be spending that time on WWE Champions dood.
@jtmarin04
10 ай бұрын
Same reason he gets "bored" whenever he dies repeatedly. just an excuse he uses
@arik2216
10 ай бұрын
Easy money by playing video games. He expect he getting more pay by playing and completing a lot of video games in a day. Streaming gamer for an easy making living is a toxic habit.
@navi-charlotte
10 ай бұрын
At any time, he can pick up a controller and play at PROFESSIONAL levels, guise! 🤣🤣🤣
@craigsovilla6578
10 ай бұрын
Robust and entertaining khantent!
@henrynelson9301
10 ай бұрын
“I’m probably one of the best overall gamers in the country”
@TheLaurelCrown
10 ай бұрын
Ah yes, a DSP classic excuse: "Beginner's trap" in a secret late game level.
@ninjafrog6966
10 ай бұрын
i’m convinced at this point that phil doesn’t know what a beginner’s trap actually is
@Philnemba
10 ай бұрын
Reminder: He used save states in Super Mario World to beat the Special World levels so he couldn't do the same to Super Mario Wonder 😂🤣
@Sparkledash1
10 ай бұрын
He did? I beat these levels when i was 7,
@l.i.m.bcommander
10 ай бұрын
Lol I forgot he did that...
@alexandergregoire2573
10 ай бұрын
The king of retro, ladies and gentlemen
@Zelkova0234
10 ай бұрын
King of save states
@alexandergregoire2573
10 ай бұрын
@@Zelkova0234 the king of gout too, how could I forget
@Azzman2049
10 ай бұрын
Like everything else in Phil’s life he gives up because it’s too hard but this time it’s a child’s game
@darrylwoodbury
10 ай бұрын
He never rage quit a game in 15 years, mind you.
@Sagemichris
10 ай бұрын
He Wage quits games
@jvrpulido35
10 ай бұрын
Didn’t he agree that this was game of the year contender
@NervousNoodles
10 ай бұрын
Despite the utter lack of skill and enjoyment, he seems like a gaming style individual who enjoys their job greatly so much they cannot wait to do it every day.
@dead_vibes
10 ай бұрын
I read enjoyment as employment and it still fits
@ninjafrog6966
10 ай бұрын
you’re kidding right?
@NervousNoodles
10 ай бұрын
@@ninjafrog6966 Yep.
@jwmdlm07
10 ай бұрын
Even using easy mode “yoshi” he still couldn’t beat it 😂 😂 😂
@supremeone9524
10 ай бұрын
The Manchild ragequits a game a 5 year old can beat in a week. time to get a real job, Paul.
@jazzygeofferz
10 ай бұрын
He'd already taken about twice as long as most people are saying it takes to finish the game because of his constantly stopping to remind people that he doesn't beg for tips and that there are ways to support his curated content.
@taylortots5549
10 ай бұрын
All Im saying, i am LEGALLY BLIND and beat this level in about an hour, this is hilarious to watch
@EMPERORGARLIX
5 ай бұрын
How?
@taylortots5549
5 ай бұрын
@@EMPERORGARLIX I can still see a bit. There's a difference between being legally blind and being completely blind.
@EMPERORGARLIX
5 ай бұрын
@@taylortots5549 Still very impressive 👍
@headless0ptomist198
10 ай бұрын
2 nights ago a watched a streamer beat this level on his first try, after half handle of Tito's, a blunt and 3 dabs. Some streamers are gamers and some streamers just stream games, guess which one dsp is.
@BovineIntervention
10 ай бұрын
A disabled person could beat this
@MaztRPwn
10 ай бұрын
He's neither. Phil is an experiment to test the intelligence of lab bred pig human hybrids.
@MKULTRA_Victim_
10 ай бұрын
Honestly impressive that’s a shitload of weed lol
@TinoR626
10 ай бұрын
That level has 2 check points one after every 3 rooms, and if you play online, other players can revive you to make the room easier to pass. It took me like 15 tires to beat that level.
@moment-of-glory
10 ай бұрын
“tino2705 if you say something dumb like that in my chat again then I’m just going to get rid of you and you won’t be coming back. I’m not going ahnline, IT’S A MARIO GAME! If I wanted to play with other people then I’d play Call of Duty, I’m not here to play Call of Mario!”
@TinoR626
10 ай бұрын
@moment-of-glory lol, only issue is you didn't use big enough words were it's clear you don't know what they mean here. Also if you go with the online multi-player it's more like the souls style. To where they can't kill you but only help you and they are like a ghost. It's also the only reason to buy the standees.
@BlueBerry20071
10 ай бұрын
Phil has not learned the art of holding a button for 0.5 seconds apparently.
@alejandrofacundo755
10 ай бұрын
Dave acting like this is some kaizo mario stuff. Literally asking for infinite lives and invulnerabilty.
@WrongThink_
10 ай бұрын
Nintendo is going to get a email from Phil telling them he's a prolific KZitemr and a professional gamer and how he doesn't like his time wasted and being disrespected🤣🤣🤣
@DSPTriesItMemology101
10 ай бұрын
how can you rage at a game made for kids, WOW
@MaxsonAtTheFort
10 ай бұрын
Kirby says hello 👋 😂
@MaxsonAtTheFort
10 ай бұрын
7:06 to 7:08 You have to clip this and use it whenever Pigroach rage quits.😂
@timculhane625
10 ай бұрын
In the words of Rich from Review Tech USA,Philip Burnell is a man
@Gentou76
10 ай бұрын
People like Phil is the reason we have games hold our hand along with having checkpoints every 2 minutes.
@TFFgeek
10 ай бұрын
Because he psychologically is still a toddler. Too hard dood.
@sladethedoritospro8084
10 ай бұрын
I never seen someone get a game over in Mario Wonder, until I saw Phil.
@SkyThePegasus
10 ай бұрын
"I can be good at games if I want to!" Then why doesn’t he?
@animeslayer24
10 ай бұрын
Super elden ring wonder
@Vaguer_Weevil
10 ай бұрын
This is a final secret level? I didn't even realize since it's giving him tutorial tips and literally showing him where to jump to. And he still fucks it up. Amazing.
@KrisLee2113
10 ай бұрын
Lmao. It’s like he’s never played a Mario game. Challenge stages are a part of the experience of 2D Mario. 😂 And even 3D Mario.
@ashleybrooke2087
10 ай бұрын
Next you'll be telling us that part of Zelda games is exploration & side quests. Which are also a disrespectful waste of time, I presume.
@KrisLee2113
10 ай бұрын
@@ashleybrooke2087 ugh. Totally disrespectful. How dare the devs distract me from saving Zelda by making Hyrule enormous and fun to explore! 😂
@ashleybrooke2087
10 ай бұрын
@@KrisLee2113 The devs didn't just distract you! They detracted you.
@jackhazardous4008
10 ай бұрын
Local man gets totally freakin owned
@MaxsonAtTheFort
10 ай бұрын
😂 Oh man the lack of “support” is really crippling Gout Lords mind, almost as much as Gin. You gotta try harder if you want those sweet, sweet Hogan Pulls Pigroach.🤣
@DrunkDoglol
10 ай бұрын
The Dark Souls of Mario games. ack ack ack
@EvilBender555
10 ай бұрын
He still dies with the easy mode 😂
@mefipulate
10 ай бұрын
reminder that certain AAA game developers design their games around this man
@KeithCopeland67
10 ай бұрын
Phil's perfect game would be a blank screen with a single button, and when you press it, it says "Congratulations! You're a winner!" over and over. That's why he loves WWE Champions so much.
@MKULTRA_Victim_
10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better lol
@M_CFV
10 ай бұрын
Dopamine fried as fuck
@Montbtw
10 ай бұрын
It’s so obvious that this dude has zero passion for gaming anymore. Simply just doing it to make money and that’s it.
@SilentWeaponsIIl
10 ай бұрын
Always a good stream when Phil has more deaths than tips😂
@MirsTrip
10 ай бұрын
Does DSP want a checkpoint after every 10 seconds of gameplay?
@CamusSC
10 ай бұрын
He says that he never ragequit 😂😂😂😂
@alejandrofacundo755
10 ай бұрын
Ragequited kirby souls and now kaizo mario wonderland. What will be the next kids game that will be too hard for him?
@Narcoanalysis
10 ай бұрын
He's blaming Input on having issues not jumping. Yeah sees my memory serves me that street fighter and star field had that too hey Phil
@HAZARDOUS88
10 ай бұрын
What a mature, chill streamer
@IamTony666
10 ай бұрын
It’s basically Dark Souls now. WTF were the devs thinking?!
@MrFreE3D
10 ай бұрын
"Dropped input " in a Mario game xD
@MoonlightBelladonna
10 ай бұрын
Who knew that Super Mario got even harder the more you played, did anyone else know that?
@adrianmartinez8125
10 ай бұрын
Nothing screams "im passionate about gaming" than rage quitting a Mario game.
@majorkong2828
10 ай бұрын
The love and passion for gaming is shining through
@soonforget
10 ай бұрын
How can you be this bad at video games when it’s your self professed full time job for 15 years. The man’s a menace.
@isupportthecurrentthing5225
10 ай бұрын
Funny. I knew the first time i ran into those seed spitting piranha plants that you can jump on the seeds. He sucks so bad. 😂😂
@thegarf5677
9 ай бұрын
DSP should check out this thing called a movie. It’s like a game, but instead of being the one who has to push the story along, you just sit back whilst everything goes to plan. Sounds exactly like what phill is looking for.
@RadicalJawzFunnyMoments
10 ай бұрын
This stage was very fun I don’t know why he didn’t even try anymore XD
@TinoR626
10 ай бұрын
You know he would of been pissed if he got to the last room with the invisible badge.
@RadicalJawzFunnyMoments
10 ай бұрын
@@TinoR626 for sure XD
@Starwarsfan1253
10 ай бұрын
Imagine ragequitting in a game that is made for children.
@airiakizuki5592
10 ай бұрын
not the first time hes done exactly this
@mikegibson3875
10 ай бұрын
Never forget Kirby and the Forgotten Land.
@myownego
10 ай бұрын
"eventhoug you already mastered it" *dies immediately This is comedy gold 😂
@KingDDDuke
10 ай бұрын
Why did Dave waste all of his money on Jpegs rather than investing in extra lives? I had 99 lives doing this, as I knew it would be tough, knowing how tough all the other true final Mario levels are. At least this one gives you checkpoints, I would have personally preferred a few extra checkpoints in it, but I was able to do it, but I missed the top of the flagpole, so I have to do it again one day for true 100% 😢
@EMPERORGARLIX
5 ай бұрын
Ouch
@bleedingbarry3708
10 ай бұрын
"how am i supposed to remember how i did it, after the 100 times i already did it" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@navi-charlotte
10 ай бұрын
3:22 - you have to do it over and over again - even though you already mastered it 🤔something does not check out here. Oh well, Pigrochian logic i guess¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@guccigucci5002
10 ай бұрын
dropped the input!!!!
@Impulsedrive
10 ай бұрын
"Even though you've already mastered it." -In the midst of dying-
@yourmaninlondoncollecting5749
10 ай бұрын
7:00 Guess his tone would be verry different if he was donated 200$ 😄😄😄
@grapefruitinstrument1394
10 ай бұрын
10+ years of being a “professional gamer” and still falling for “beginners traps” lmao
@VaruKozuka
10 ай бұрын
Can't do it without checkpoints, king of retro btw.
@Toadmania26
10 ай бұрын
Man is the walking definition of a skill issue. Game literally spoils you with 1ups if you can at least function. Also, don't know if he just ignored online mode the entire time, but that SAVES you on this level.
@CullObsidianPlays626
10 ай бұрын
*DSB aka Doesnt Stop Bit€hing* is the living Avatar of *"Get Good/Skill Issue"*
@Blind-cow
10 ай бұрын
Mario is the kirby dark souls of platformers dood
@CineGoodog
10 ай бұрын
No frog glitch this time to cheese his way out of the last level. (anyone remember how cocky he was after he cheesed the special phase on Mario Odyssey?) Also, I love how he didn't even got into the hardest part yet 🤣
@BigKO26
10 ай бұрын
Damn that Mario Souls game
@TheGameCube64Guy
10 ай бұрын
It's Kirby Souls all over again lol
@ElSandwich777
10 ай бұрын
I been waiting a few years to see what would have happened if Phil hadn’t been shown the frog cheese skip for Mario Odyssey. But it was worth it.
@TheAxeGrinder
10 ай бұрын
Nintendo once again is sneak dissing Phil as a detractor. First it was Tears of the Kingdom, and now this.
@ashleybrooke2087
10 ай бұрын
And there's nothing he could do!
@sonsofkojimarip
10 ай бұрын
3:53 4:18 he really has absolutely lost his mind.. The game is DISRESPECTING the great and powerful Snortler P.P. Burnell and his wheelchair reich, jfc this guy is wild!
@WontStopMeNow
10 ай бұрын
Nintendo to Phil: "Thanks for the money, dummy."
@Azzman2049
10 ай бұрын
King of retro guys
@itypethetruthnobshere8975
10 ай бұрын
Best gamer in the country!
@Jeffinite1y
6 ай бұрын
at any moment I can pickup a controller and play at a professional level
@Tat2d
10 ай бұрын
Super Mario Wonder is a contender for GOTY but to DSP it’s trash. If he had Tier 1, I bet he would put in more of an effort
@johnmcclure2149
10 ай бұрын
Whenever you are feeling like you're bad at your job .... remember that Phill exists.
@spottyhead
10 ай бұрын
"I don't wanna play the parts of your game that are like Old-Ass Mario..." - the self-proclaimed King of Retro, folks
@wittledragon1314
10 ай бұрын
"to hard? To hard for ya? To much work?" - ok phil. rofl "im not going to play it if its like a game from 1991" ....king of retro.
@boyboynova
10 ай бұрын
it’s hilarious that he goes “couldn’t put a checkpoint? too hard?” as he complains about a kids game being too hard lol
@dalepalo8145
10 ай бұрын
Phil: "This game is trash for not putting a checkpoint. It's wasting my time and the viewers' time. " I don't know, but this sounds like a skill issue to me Phil
@ninjafrog6966
10 ай бұрын
plus there literally are checkpoints in that level. phil just sucks
@GravityFaiz
9 ай бұрын
100% a skill issue. His gout + gin ridden brain is already deteriorating with age, give it half a decade or so and he’ll go senile.
@bytz4742
10 ай бұрын
4:43 this is a great summary of phils entire career, he got going, stagnated, fell, and got mad blaming everything but himself
@nfamus540
10 ай бұрын
I don't understand how you can do something for a living for over a decade and still be trash at what you do for a living. When I was 18 I got a job at a factory that made boat engine manifolds, within 6 months I had learned how to operate the CNC milling machines (which can be dangerous as hell) I had learned how to paint the parts at both of the different types of paint booths, and I learned how to work in the shipping department which involved driving forklifts (again a job that can be extremely dangerous) Within the next 6 months I had been promoted to shipping supervisor. So within a year I had learned 75% of the work performed at that factory and yet Phil can't learn how to press buttons on a controller after over a decade of doing nothing but press buttons on a controller. It's easy to see how Phil was the valedictorian of his highschool 😂😂😂
@callinater6133
10 ай бұрын
No offence but you come off as a narcissist
@ParadigmZwei
9 ай бұрын
Your time is only truly wasted when you give up, because then all that effort was for nothing.
@Flamedramon645
10 ай бұрын
How does he NOT know that you can use the seeds from the plant to hop and reach the side?! Cmon man. They teach you this in World 2 or 3. Cant remember which one.
@UncoloredPageGaming
10 ай бұрын
“Why wouldn’t you put a checkpoint here? Too hard for ya” - a 40 year old man failing in a children’s game
@MP-yz4ci
10 ай бұрын
4:46 Pro gamer phil.
@boltsy1395
10 ай бұрын
kirby and the forgotten land all over again.
@milkinobama8160
10 ай бұрын
5:11 you’re not supposed to jump from the wall, the momentum of the gliding wall will launch you up. So he did do something completely wrong here
@henrynelson9301
10 ай бұрын
6:42 and then he does it again, while literally going “did it again!”
@ArsynZ
10 ай бұрын
So much for the 100% lol. Just several days ago he was smelling his own farts talking about how he's going to 100% it. Now it's, "Who cares if I beat it. It doesn't earn me anything." A kids game y'all... A KIDS G A M E ! ! !
@adun3
10 ай бұрын
Yes, the game's super tight and precise inputs were obviously dropping there it seems
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