Wow, A++. Beautifully built, and covered, and then the rigging. Pretty enough to hang on display, especially with the frame still visible. These stick type fuselages are unnerving to me (prefer Guillow's method of keels, ribs, etc). Maybe it's time to try one again, pretty sure I have a Dumas kit or two in my stash. Fun video, thanks.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Rob: Glad you like it! Tim
@rob737700
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 I'm going to try one of these, have a vintage Sterling kit on the way (36 inch wingspan). Not sure about power...I might finish it up with one of several Cox motors that I have running well at the moment. Lots of nostalgia with these planes....back in the early 60s my father loved Aeroncas and flew the Champ, tricycle geared Traveler, and even did part of his multi in the twin-engined Lancer. My very first balsa model back in the day was the Guillow's champ. Great times...
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree! Tim
@rob737700
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 Update, I finished and flew the Sterling kit! Channels were rudder and elevator, power was a Cox .020 Tee Dee. Silkspan coverd. Flew beautifully and incredibly scale. It's a fantastic kit, highly recommend to anybody who likes this plane or the older flyers in general. It's long out of production but worth the effort to track down.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Rob: Many thanks for this update, congrats on your test flight! Tim
@leifvejby8023
3 жыл бұрын
You could turn the engine 45 degrees to get it higher I've always liked that Aeronca series!!
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
LV: Thanks for the tip! Tim
@edwydra9987
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration to start building again after 25 years Love your videos
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Ed: Glad to hear it! Tim
@garygullikson6349
2 жыл бұрын
Some possible improvements: Block up the outer trailing edge of each wing panel about 3/16 inch during construction for "wing tip washout" to help with lateral stability. Have the motor pointed a little down and to the right to help with pitch sensitivity. Model flew as if it was a little tail heavy, move battery forward a little or add a little lead or coil of solder in front of cowl. The typical long , but thin, ( high aspect ratio) wings made Aeroncas somewhat laterally unstable. Very nicely made video of a challenging model build, nicely complete kit by Dumas.
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Gary: Great suggestion. With the low power motor, the full scale C-3 was almost a powered glider. Dumas did a great job with the kit, but all thanks to Pat Trittle for the innovative design! Tim
@diceman2004
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet plane . I was wanting to build one like the yellow Oldsmobile one . very cool covering job .
@TimMcKay56
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking in! Aeronca was a fin plane. 😊 Tim
@TheLifeTerm
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job, Tim. Your videos are very detailed. Thank you!
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
John: Thanks for watching! Tim
@garygullikson6349
2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend Pat Tritle designs for scale-like, slow flying calm air models that can be flown in fairly small spaces. They are a step up in flyability from Guillows kits and designed for electric power. Tritle designs are sold by Brodak as laser cut "full kits" and by Manzano Laser Works as laser cut "short kits" . Short kits do not include detailed instructions and some of the balsa sticks etc., needed to complete the build.
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Gary: Fully agree, Pat's designs are without peer. Tim
@scotabot7826
5 ай бұрын
Not to mention Pat sells a lot of his kits on his own website.
@garygullikson6349
5 ай бұрын
@@scotabot7826 No, not anymore, his designs are now sold by Brodak as Dare brand "full" kits and as "short" kits by Manzano Laser Works,
@davidquerry8869
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these in depth builds you do Tim
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
David: Many thanks! Tim
@chilarai1
3 жыл бұрын
Cool that you have WW2 aircraft flying casually by your home. Wow.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Chilarai: Yes, that was a nice treat! Tim
@615thAeroSquadron
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice......classic!!
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
LJ: Glad you liked it! Tim
@dannyb2349080
3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, as usual. Really neat looking plane but I think a little out of my limited model building attributes, ;). Keep up the great work, love watching your videos.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Danny: Many thanks! Tim
@stevejones9044
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! BTW your camera operator is very good and very stable. It looks like they are hand holding the cam as well. That's hard to do while being stable. I am a part time cam operator for a national program and we have tripods which make it easier. Just wanted to give kudos to your camera op.
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Steve: My lovely wife does all the camera work, hand held iPhone. She is a natural! Tim
@NewClearPlants
3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a coincidence! I had been following your work on the guillows conversions and stumbled upon the rc dumas kits. picked mine up the week before you post this video!
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Jacob: Dumas does a great job with their kits, best of luck with yours! Tim
@billk8579
2 жыл бұрын
This is just a great video. So glad I discovered this channel. In the past I have only flown control line very simple .049 planes. I think you have inspired me to tackle some electric RC planes.
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Bill: Give electrics a try! www.HorizonzHobby.com has some great ready to fly kits, good tech support. Do join a local RC club as well, members always ready to assist. Tim
@McA_1987
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the build. Can’t wait until this pandemic is fully over so I can join a flight club and get some help learning to fly
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
MB: No worries. While you are waiting to rejoin your RC club, do consider a computer flight simulator, such as Real Flight. The sims these days truly work well and aid a lot with flying skills. Tim
@McA_1987
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 I may give a flight sim a try I’m just on a tight budget these days. Also I built your 20”square plane this past Saturday and got some decent 100’ straight runs. My yards a bit tight so I struggled every time I tried to turn but will try again this weekend at a park.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
MB: Sounds good! Perhaps add a bit more throw to the elevens for greater control. Tim
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Meant elevons. Tim
@peterriehl603
3 жыл бұрын
Top notch video and build! Good work.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Peter: Thanks for watching! Tim
@christophercastaneda917
3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up just for the B17 flyby!
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Chris: Thanks! Tim
@jameshickman5299
3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, The Dumas kit is for an Aeronca C-3, not a C-2. The C-3 came in a couple variants over its production life. The Dumas kit is of the version commonly known as the “Razorback”. It was the bare minimum aircraft; two wings, two cylinders, and two seats. Not much else. The version you refer to was introduced later in the production run. It was marketed as the “Master”. The fuselage structure was basically the same, but the fomers fairings aft of the wing were reshaped to improve airflow and to accommodate a cabin enclosure.. The engine power was also increased and the landing gear improved. I believe this was done to make the Master more competitive with the Taylor Cub. The Razorback was just a little TOO basic. Let’s be careful out there.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
James: Great update, thanks! Tim
@richarddarlington1139
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Tim. Dumas produces such an extensive, really nice line of kits at very reasonable prices. Let's see how you fared with yours...
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Richard: Very pleased with the Dumas kit of the C-3. Tim
@richarddarlington1139
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 I'm working on their Stinson Voyager as I write this. Glad you're happy with your Aeronca. But let's see what can be done about those tip stalls...
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
The tip stalks are a bit worrisome. I’m pretty sure there is a slight warp somewhere in the wing, need to twist it out. 🤔😊 Tim
@richarddarlington1139
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 The plans for my Stinson call for 3/16" of washout in both wing tips. I would start there. Also, a couple of degrees of down and right thrust usually help. Pretty standard stuff, really. But it was a fun build, right? P.S. I have a sudden craving for butterscotch. I don't know why...
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
I’m familiar with washout. The issue with the C-3 are the unusually long wings. Quite unusual. But needed for the 36 hp engine, as the C-3 is essentially a powered glider. RC model wings can tolerate very little warping. Tim
@stevejohnson3991
2 жыл бұрын
Tim, thanks for all of your great videos. Interesting to see your catch with kit actually being a C2. I built a Sterling version back in the early '70s, and I just received the exact same vintage kit on ebay (rubber or Cox .020). Guess what? Also appears to be a C2 - single seat, razor back. I wonder how the error propagated for so long?
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Steve: No idea on the C2 item, but a fun kit to build and fly. 😁 Tim
@cecilkoselke7878
Жыл бұрын
Might I add, that there were 2, C-3 versions. C-3 Collegian, with the razorback, and C-3 Master, which had he turtle back fuselage.
@TimMcKay56
Жыл бұрын
@@cecilkoselke7878 Cecil: Excellent update, I was not aware of the two C-3 variants. Tim
@funscalemodels9782
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice Tim, really enjoy your vids. What’s next on the bench?
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
FSM: Experimenting with a 3/16" foam board flat wing, light weight model. We'll see! Tim
@paulhelman2376
9 ай бұрын
Could wash out tips a bit to avoid wing dropping.
@TimMcKay56
9 ай бұрын
Good point! Tim
@johnmajane3731
2 жыл бұрын
Neat model thanks for the review. It looks like you have old approach light towers along your field? What are they from?
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
John: Just regular electrical transmission lines at the rear of our field. Out in the middle of nowhere. Tim
@johnmajane3731
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 thanks did not see any wires in them
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmajane3731 I'll have to take a second look! Tim
@johnmajane3731
2 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 the towers with what appears to be a platform and three pieces sticking out the top.
@marcomartinez7220
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim great Job, you are an artist, please could you confirm if the motor is park bl250 55w/2200Kv, thanks in advance, i want to build the same dumas model
@TimMcKay56
2 жыл бұрын
Marco: Yes, that is it! Tim
@aerotowguy
Жыл бұрын
Hey, Tim, Pat's last name is not "trittle" (rhymes with "brittle")... Pat says "Tritle" (rhymes with "bridle"). I asked him about this once, just to be sure.
@TimMcKay56
Жыл бұрын
👍🏻😊 Tim
@scotabot7826
5 ай бұрын
Those look like runway approach lights in the field of your flying site??
@TimMcKay56
5 ай бұрын
No, just nearby power lines. 😊 Tim
@paulhelman2376
9 ай бұрын
No enginedetail which is quite important in this plane's twin apposed engine.
@TimMcKay56
9 ай бұрын
👍🏻😊 Tim
@Glicksman1
3 жыл бұрын
The Guillows, Sterling keel and ribs fuselage construction design is too heavy and way overbuilt for these small, light airplanes. Dumas got it right along with Keil Kraft, Comet, and many others, whose airplanes build fairly light, are structurally sound, and can actually fly well without modification, especially not at jet-like airspeeds in order to stay in the air because of their high wing loadings. These low Reynolds Number wings need all the help they can get and a lower wing loading is the key. Also, improving their airfoils to a slightly undercambered profile makes a big difference. If absolute scale proportions are not important, moderately increasing wingspan makes a big improvement as well. Those old Guillows, etc. kits can be modified by cutting away a lot of the internal fuselage structure, but you're better off starting with a more intelligent and useful lightweight design, to begin with.
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, Dumas did a good job with their C-3 kit. Tim
@sebastianescobar3018
3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone, I need help. I just finished building a 24” wing of my own design, at half throttle the esc is rebooting. Anyone knows what is going on? Ps. Incredible build!!
@TimMcKay56
3 жыл бұрын
Sebastian: Sorry, no idea on this one. If an older ESC, maybe try a new one. May just be a bad ESC. Tim
@sebastianescobar3018
3 жыл бұрын
@@TimMcKay56 much appreciated, it was me 😅 it wasn’t properly connected so not much current passed the maiden actually went impressively well. Thanks to you actually :)
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