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@fernandozavaletabustos205
Жыл бұрын
Even in the newest version of Dune Denis Villeneuve, you can notice that the influence of the 1984 film is present even if its very subtle.
@happyninja42
Жыл бұрын
This Dune film was a formative part of my childhood mental development. As janky and insane as it is, and as many liberties as it takes with the source material, I still love it. Francesca Annis basically formed my attraction for older women with strikingly beautiful eyes. That scene where she walks into the room to see that Paul survived the Gom jabar, and the full screen closeup made my little brain go "....oh....ok yeah, I like that and would like to know more please" xD Later on when they introduced Chani, and Sean Young had those glowing blue eyes illuminating her face, further solidified that attraction for me. The Weirding Way was the closest thing I had to a religious belief as a kid, and the general philosophy and species outlook of Dune shaped my worldview for the rest of my life. It's got it's problems, the film, but it's one I will always love, and never forget. LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!! ✊
@geraintthatcher3076
Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with this video but Rowan with Ahsoka series coming out did you ever review The Clone Wars or Rebels TV shows ?
@benjaminedenfield3368
Жыл бұрын
Amazing review! I saw this the first time on HBO back in the day. They played the heck out of it! It is an amazing film but it does have those issues. I always thought that if they took the scope of this film and added the mini-series, it would be perfect. I love the latest edition and am so going to see part 2 in IMAX. I hope they bring back the first in IMAX as well. Had to miss due to that thing we had to deal with.
@lukeluke333lukeluke
Жыл бұрын
Its such a weird film and the pacing is awful (mostly in the third act) but I still can't help but love it. It gets better the more you watch it. I will always wonder how the film would've turned out if the studio didn't mess with Lynch's vision. Great job on the video. Really enjoy your content.
@herrzimm
Жыл бұрын
On a personal note: Why I still LOVE this movie to this day..... Back in 84 when this first came out I was only 13yrs old. I treated my father to a "father/son night out" at the theaters. I had saved up enough from working as a paperboy to buy the tickets, drinks and popcorn. I picked this movie, thinking at the time that it was going to be a big action film due to the ads. Little did I know what it would turn out to be.... which is why my dad didn't like the movie... but I LOVED it because it was father/son-time and a Sci-Fi film of something that I had finished roughly 7 months before the movie came out.
@mattgilbert7347
Жыл бұрын
I was 12! Dad and I loved The Baron, McMillan was a riot :)
@kenscott5823
Жыл бұрын
This is the best story I have ever heard from anyone that actually liked this movie. As someone that has read the book 100+ time, I support you. Anyone that is negative towards you, may their knife chip and shatter.
@eclat4641
Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@herrzimm
Жыл бұрын
Honestly think that Lynch's version suffered from studio interference that simply didn't UNDERSTAND what Dune was really all about, which overall DID hurt the movie. But Lynch's visual style elevated it to something a bit more interesting than the Books overall, which at times helped... but also hampered the plot. A complete "mixed bag" all the way around, but obviously one that is well worth the time to watch. Especially the "extended version" that adds a lot of information, even if delivered in somewhat dull "voice overs".
@yggdrasil2
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't really mind the voiceovers so much...where they not so unnecessery!
@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117
Жыл бұрын
My uncle took me to see it when I was 10. He was a huge fan of the book. After it was over, he apologized for taking me to it. We went to the bookstore in the same mall and he bought me a hardcover copy of Herbert's novel. He handed it to me and said THIS IS DUNE, NOT THAT MOVIE. I still own it. (for the record, I liked the movie and still do)
@Joshf4phan
Жыл бұрын
Essentially the same story but with my father. The movie works for me in a lot of ways. For me, it really captures the epic feel of the story- what's happening on Arrakis is determining the fate of humanity, and the desert visuals and the Toto score really give the feel that something huge is going on.
@bakasta5992
Жыл бұрын
Did he like the new movie?
@mattgilbert7347
Жыл бұрын
My parents took me to see the film in 1984,,on release. I was 12. Started reading the books a few years later.
@mattgilbert7347
Жыл бұрын
That new movie wasn't a movie. It was a glossy advertisement for the second movie. "Melange: by Zendaya. Because You're Worth It"
@TheWoblinGoblin
Жыл бұрын
so when did the novel work for you? I wouldn't have gotten Dune when I was 10
@fernandozavaletabustos205
Жыл бұрын
Even in the newest version of Dune Denis Villeneuve, you can notice that the influence of the 1984 film is present even if its very subtle.
@personzorz
Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen 1984, what do you see as the strongest influence?
@fernandozavaletabustos205
Жыл бұрын
Particulary on the "grand scale" look and feel of the movie, a small part of the musical theme when Paul and his mom are scaping in the desert, as well as some parts of the character's clothing. And yes, the idea that the Baron Harkonnen can float at great heights to make himself imposing instead of just hovering over the ground like in the novel.@@personzorz
@damonappel
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Villeneuve had the benefit of splitting the movie in two, but instead of ending logically with the attack on the Atreides, and fleshing-out more of the personal drama while they were taking-over from the Harkonnens (much of which Lynch actually DID film, and was cut for the studio's time demands), Villeneuve played the story just as brief and weirdly added unnecessary, meandering desert scenes, to end at a very odd point. (This is not to say that I hate the new version, although I think it's inferior, but to point out that it plays very 'safe' with taking Lynch's pacing for inspiration.)
@jamied1579
Жыл бұрын
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 I don't know - Villenueve is that kind of director anyway, probably why he was chosen. Much of his work has a grand sense of scale, most notably Blade Runner 2 and Arrival... The source material evokes that sense of scale - any director worth his salt would work to put it to screen, it's the only way to visually do justice to such a grandiose and epic tale
@Exeler-genannt-Vogelsang
Жыл бұрын
@@personzorz Denis Villeneuve absolutely aknowledges the influence the Lynch/DeLaurentis version had and references it as styleguide. The floating lights on Caladan come to mind or the presentation of the enormous Guild ships as "simple" matepaintings just in orbit around a planet and never seen in motion. Born through technical limitations Lynch had to overcome, Denis embraced it to pay homage and tingeling the "something is off" senses of the unexpected viewer at the same time. In my own interpretation i would guess the outcry shadout mapes, the housekeeper presenting the krys-knife to Lady Jessica, makes is a homage aswell. DV has become my most trusted director because his love and respect for the source material is allways shining through. I have my suspicion about an ulterior motive and the inspiration for "Dune - part one", only thinly veiled by beeing an awesome movie adaptation. In my opinion DV intentionally wanted to create and replicate what Lynch/DeLaurentis Dune turned out to be for 14 year old me: To offer another entertaining, intriguing Visualization, riding on an epic soundtrack like on a Sandworm to a new audience. Basically making the most blatant, epic, entertaining, baffeling book commercial ever.
@DANRYX
Жыл бұрын
The Spicediver 3hr Dune: Redux fan edit is amazing. He took scenes found only in the TV broadcast, scenes only in the version shown in theatres and deleted scenes and audio and completely recut it to match as close to the novel and its pacing as possible. For me, it is the definitive version that I love and has scenes that no official release contains. His latest 4k upscale is a must watch.
@Radwald
Жыл бұрын
Yes it's terrific everyone should see it. It's on KZitem
@MagusSartori
Жыл бұрын
My first experience with this movie, and in fact the dune universe at all, was an early version of the spicedriver edit. It instantly became one of my favorite things
@DANRYX
Жыл бұрын
@@MagusSartoriEven his earlier versions were very good. He had help from fans after his initial version where they aided him on getting the structure more accurate to the novel. The fact that he did a complete overhaul to match what the fans informed him on is a testament to his dedication and love for the source material and fellow fans alike.
@DANRYX
Жыл бұрын
@@RadwaldYou're right! I am honestly surprised it is still there!
@DANRYX
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/x5d-t3WVaZZqgKQ For anyone interested, hopefully this comment doesn't get removed! It's good to find other's who appreciate even the original film, take care you all!
@californiumblog
Жыл бұрын
Dune is my favorite sci-fi universe, hands down. And for almost 20 years this was my Dune movie. I acknowledge all of its faults but I will love it forever for being the first on-screen adaptation my young brain ever got to experience of this world. And a lot of it is still fantastic and interesting!
@stevepittman3770
Жыл бұрын
I'm sad the 2000 miniseries only got a bare mention. It and Children of Dune were surprisingly alright adaptations IMO. Even though they suffered from budgetary constraints being made-for-TV and all, they stayed pretty close to the books and covered material beyond the first book. They had problems of course, but I enjoyed them, and I liked several of the actors' performances. The miniseries were what ultimately convinced me to read the books, so they'll always have a special place in my heart for that reason if nothing else.
@christopherkowalczyk4405
Жыл бұрын
Came to post the same. Actually loved the feel the production had at times. Some complained about the sets being obvious screens and the Baron's rhyming scheme. To me it felt like watching Dune being made as a theater production and for some reason I loved it. Plus it was the first yime outside the books where you saw Paul played as the messiah/tyrant character.
@Bizzon666
Жыл бұрын
I love the 2000 miniseries! In some ways it's my favorite adaptation, lot of lore is mentioned, and it has a good feeling, I can tell the costumes and sets look cheap and unpolished sometimes but I don't care.
@danielseelye6005
Жыл бұрын
Rowan's mentioned it because he's gonna do a retrospective on it and "Children of Dune.". He's not the type to leave us hanging like that.
@ja8ames
Жыл бұрын
For me, the miniseries is the best adaptation to date, all things considered. It's obviously the cheapest production by far, but I think that it's the most effective in terms of storytelling. And has some really fun visual elements; they basically did a lot with a little. Hopefully Rowan spends some time with it at some point.
@unfabgirl
Жыл бұрын
Rowan will probably be doing a video on the miniseries on its own. The mention at the end is super similar to how his Star Trek retrospectives ended, before the next one in the series
@ThePariahDark
Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I was in the exact same boat as you, Rowan. I watched the movie as a kid, I didn't get it, but I kept _coming back_ to it the older I got. And slowly that confusion turned into adoration, I can quote many lines from this movie from pure memory, and the line "the sleeper must awaken" has made me do things in my life I would have otherwise never dared. The Duke shaped me just like he did Paul, this movie shaped me.
@connycontainer9459
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you should try the books.
@ThreadBomb
Жыл бұрын
It is hugely quotable.
@GROK99
6 ай бұрын
I loved Dune when I read it in highschool. The book that formed me the most was Heinlein s Stranger in a Strange Land.
@Concreteowl
Жыл бұрын
I like the internal monologues. I think it stands out because nobody else has done it. It turns the film into a Shakespeare like play.
@CorwinPatrick
Жыл бұрын
I mean, come on... The book is one long internal Monologue.
@eclat4641
Жыл бұрын
I agree ! It’s awesome
@Thejuvenal
Жыл бұрын
Meh, honestly in a movie I should see the actions, performances and emotions of the characters, not explain it to you with many sentences; It's like watching the version of Blade Runner with internal monologues, it doesn't convince. It only works on books and that's it. If I'm not such a fan of internal monologues
@TobeyStarburst
7 ай бұрын
love it too
@Exar_Kun
6 ай бұрын
The original cut of Blade Runner had them too.
@kendrickl5913
Жыл бұрын
I love dune, I love David lynch, and I love this movie despite its flaws. The visuals are incredible and I wish the new movie had some similar accents
@MrJibbajabbawocky
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see it on the big screen in 4k resolution
@seeingeyegod
Жыл бұрын
My Dad's pitch to me when I was 5 years old to go see this movie with him (yeah he brought me to all sorts of weird/adult stuff from very young ages) was "Hey want to see a movie about giant worms with mouths that could swallow this entire house?".. Hmmm ok, yes.
@kingbolo4579
Жыл бұрын
Wow! What did you think of the movie after seeing it?
@MarkTyger
Жыл бұрын
I never saw this film in theatres, but I eventually caught is as a midnight movie on local television when I was a teenager. It may have been the sleep deprivation of the late hour, but I found the film utterly fascinating! I rewatched the VHS copy I'd made that night I many times over the following months finding some little new detail every time I watched it. I loved how strange and moody it was, and how much it felt like something right out of Heavy Metal Magazine. At this point, I hadn't read the book, so I took the film on its own merits, and for all its flaws, it became one of my all time favourite films. The soundtrack is both epic and mesmerizing. The Weirding Module is one of the coolest weapons in sci-fi, and the shield belt fight was utterly unique (and is still better than the red/blue blur of the new film). I've since read the book and come to know how difficult it would be as a single film, hence why that gave Villneuve 2 films, but it really needs a prestige cable/streamer full season to really do it justice. But for all it's challenges, there is no film out there like Dune 1984, and it absolutely deserves its cult status.
@Neville60001
Жыл бұрын
@MarkTyger, I'm sorry, but the 1984 shield fight looks bad now compared to the 2000 and 2021 fights; the effects in the later versions are subtle and understated, only showing what happens when the blade glances of the shield or penetrates it; that to me is what the shield's _supposed_ to look like. I _used_ to *_like_* the '84 movie, but now I think that the 2000 TV mini-series and the 2021 movie are much, much better (even with the crappy costumes in the 2000 TV miniseries.)
@ruthweal3404
Жыл бұрын
I love this movie and it continues to be the way I envisage the world of Dune. I was 9 when it came out and didn’t watch it until a few years later at 12 on TV with my Dad whom I shared my love of Sci fi and fantasy with. I remember being spellbound by the score, which got me interested in acquiring film scores later in life, the prophecy theme in particular. I missed a lot of what was going on in my initial watch, but I loved the epic mythical nature of the film and the intense interpersonal relationships between characters. Quotes like: ‘A beginning is a very delicate time’ ‘the sleeper must awaken’ ‘I suggest you may be human, your awareness may be powerful enough to control your instincts, your instinct will be to remove your hand from the box, if you do so…you die’, ‘I must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death that brings total obliteration, I will face my fear, I will permit it to pass over me, and through me’ ‘You are transparent, I see many things, I see plans within plans’ ‘Many men have tried, “they tried and failed”, they tried and died’ ‘I will bend like a reed in the wind’ ‘It is by will alone I set my mind in motion’ They have all become personal mantras or words to live by. Like many I read the books because of this film and rewatch it regularly. It was a memorable and beloved moment of connection with my Dad and we both adored the film as a flawed masterpiece. After watching the film Dad lent me his paperback of Dune to read. I came to understand how dense the book really was and loved discussing it with my Dad. I was struck on how much the newest adaptation borrows on the 1984 version, but was given more time to breathe and truly let the story unfold, yet lost much of the beautiful nuance and poetry of the original’s language and as a result it’s evocative mysticism and majesty. Maybe it’s because I was young when I watched it, but the 1984 version for all its flaws hit me deeper than any other, though I appreciate all of the other adaptations in different ways. I lost my Dad last November and the first thing I watched after was this version of Dune, to reconnect with the moment, but it also gave me a deeper understanding of the Paul/Leto relationship, and for a few hours I was back in the 80s on the couch with my Dad. Powerful art has the ability to transport you places just as the spacing guild folds space.
@patinho5589
Жыл бұрын
< This. By the way: “I will bend like a reed in the wind” ! :)
@ruthweal3404
Жыл бұрын
@@patinho5589 err apologies for being a pedant, but it is ‘reed’ not ‘read’. ‘Read’ is a verb (action/doing word, e.g ‘I’m going to read the comments’. ‘Reed’ is a noun (name of an object / person / animal) it’s a type of marsh grass that grows on river banks, especially estuaries where it is often subject to tidal forces and winds. It bends, rather than breaking, making it very resilient, in what could be deemed a hostile environment.
@patinho5589
Жыл бұрын
@@ruthweal3404 oops. Thank you. Of course. Editing now. I was just meaning to say it as some of these lines also stuck with me :).
@ruthweal3404
Жыл бұрын
@@patinho5589 lol no worries, glad you like that quote too x
@DaLiJeIOvoImeZauzeto
Жыл бұрын
Spicediver fan edit of this film is the closest thing we'll ever get to having the Director's cut, since Lynch is still salty over his past with the Laurentis' company. Nonetheless, the Spicediver fan edit is a fantastic piece of work and the only way I watch the original Dune nowadays. I've seen it several times over, its mysticism instantly transports me to the books' world. In my opinion, it is superior to Vilneuve's film, although his film is not without merits of its own.
@RainBird88x
Жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for this film, and consider the spicediver edit superior to the 2021 film.
@apachehelicopterah64
Жыл бұрын
I saw this at the theater during its original release when I was 10. I was captivated by its grandeur by story and vision. I’ve always loved it even though I haven’t always understood it. But as I’ve understood it, I still appreciate it and still love it.
@CantankerousDave
Жыл бұрын
When I saw it in the theaters, we were given a glossary sheet along with the ticket. There are scans online. Alicia Witt would later play a snarky teenager in the sitcom Cybil. She had a Dune 1984 poster on her bedroom wall.
@jdawson9944
Жыл бұрын
Can we please have a terminator series please 🙏 ❤❤
@Never_Know_Best
Жыл бұрын
I would enjoy this.
@danielseelye6005
Жыл бұрын
That would be nice. It was a great duology.
@RomanPhilosopher
Жыл бұрын
This ^^^^
@theonlymatthew.l
Жыл бұрын
@@danielseelye6005exactly, stick to the first 2 movies and ur golden. Outside of that, not so much. 😏
@natsmith303
Жыл бұрын
Including The Sarah Connor Chronicles, please?
@stuchatterton6550
Жыл бұрын
I used to love getting something nice to drink and settle down to rewatch this. There is something almost hypnotic about it all, the characters being moved like pieces in a glacially slow game of empire scale chess. It helped that the sets, the actors and the music were singularly striking, from the severity of the Reverend Mother, through the beauty of Francesa Annis, the poise and presence of Stilgar, and the maniacal intent of the Baron. There are few movies that reward multiple viewings, but this is one of them.
@Eckendenker
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love the Lynch Dune.
@eclat4641
Жыл бұрын
Me too! I’ve become obsessed!
@robertfstrickland6207
6 ай бұрын
I do as well. 1984s DUNE Navigators are the True Navigators IMO
@juliancosta7626
Жыл бұрын
This is the definitive sci fi channel of KZitem imo. As a huge fan of Lynch and of Sci fi, thanks for dedicating time to this interesting footnote of Sci fi cinema.
@icreateworlds
Жыл бұрын
I was 14 when it opened and it blew me away. I saw it on a giant movie screen and this became one of the movies that I blame for me becoming a fantasy illustrator, along with The Neverending Story. This Dune had great reviews in the press here in Portugal and it was one of those rare sci-fi movies that even people who hated sci-fi really enjoyed. The movie came back for cinema reruns over the years and every time it sold out the room. When it was first aired on tv in an awful 4:3 pan and scan copy the movie was a huge hit and had viewership rates that broke all records for tv movies here in Portugal around 1988. The newspapers even printed vhs covers for everyone that wanted to vhs tape it, and newspapers sold like crazy that day because DUNE was going to be on tv that week. At that time I hadn’t read the book as it was mostly unpublished here in Portugal , but the atmosphere of the movie, the soundtrack , the intro and the fact that when it comes to design was so different from the nuts and bolts Star Wars , all that made me fall in love with it. The night it went on tv, I taped it and when it was over I rewind the tape and watched it again that same night. Also the soundtrack LP album sold out too and to this day I still meet people that claim to hate scifi but make an exception when it comes to Blade Runner and David Lynch’s DUNE. I still think the movie was really influential in giving new readers of the books that impression the book was more spiritual and atmospheric than it really is. In the 80s it was impossible to read the books and not think of the mystical atmosphere from the movie which is not exactly in the books. I think the DUNE novels have a lot to thank Lynchs DUNE for their come back into pop culture back in the 80s. I do love the movie, it still inspires me like crazy in my own work site-4vjycmtv.websitecdn.com/uploads/1920/6dee0246e48b4229a1befdc07d802837.jpg?v=231801070855 Or site-4vjycmtv.websitecdn.com/uploads/1920/6f95a259cd0b4766bd7602fc0bddcb7b.jpg?v=231801070855 The recent 4K special Blu-ray edition is out of this world.
@karandras77
Жыл бұрын
I was a little kid when I saw Dune 1984 for the first time, and it blew my mind... years later I read the book as part of my crecent intrerest in the genre, they marked me, obiously at the par with Star Wars...
@StevenHouse1980
Жыл бұрын
"The sleeper must awaken!"
@seeingeyegod
Жыл бұрын
FATHER!
@nemz7505
Жыл бұрын
I really like the Hans Zimmer soundtrack from the new film but the Toto soundtrack from the 1984 version will always be my favorite.
@jamielandis4308
Жыл бұрын
For me, this version of “Dune” is much like Kubrick’s “The Shining.” Neither is a great adaptation but both provide visuals and atmosphere that compliments their source novels. Being a reader, I had read both first before seeing the flicks. I agree about this being like “Star Trek: The Motion Picture.”
@Joe321Joe
Жыл бұрын
Jodorowsky's concept is a beautifully restored version of the future. It all looks artistic and uplifting on paper, but it also clearly conveys an even slightly less mainstream Dune than Lynch's, which would have had even less chance of global success like other Jodorowsky films. It's a concept as so many other films had, multiple versions of concepts, but the documentary is cool indeed.
@ThreadBomb
Жыл бұрын
I love Jodorowsky's film "The Holy Mountain", but I think his "Dune" would have been a disaster.
@MrJibbajabbawocky
Жыл бұрын
@@ThreadBomba beautiful disaster, at least!
@billthevillageidiot4069
Жыл бұрын
one thing i can say about this film ver of the book is that it had soul , The fan edit by spicediver is worth watching :)
@willalexander5174
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite books is Ed Naha’s “The Making of Dune”. It describes the making of this lavish vision David Lynch & company were attempting to bring to screen. Outrageously recommended read if you’re interested in what was going on during the making of David Lynch’s Dune, and what could’ve been in its execution. Much like Star Trek The Motion Picture, due to both its strengths and weaknesses, it remains an indelible and fascinating film for the ages.
@ralphclark
Жыл бұрын
I am a massive fan of Frank Herbert’s original book series; the first novel is a literary masterpiece. But still I loved David Lynch’s film and - notwithstanding all the studio interference that forced him to remove his name from the production - I’m so glad it was made by someone with such a unique vision and not some jaded formula blockbusters hack.
@Chris-ut6eq
Жыл бұрын
I really liked the 84 version of the movie. People don't seem to catch some of it's more subtle references to things mentioned in the book. After watching this many times, decided to read the book and it make me think the movie was even better. That said, the retro 50's tech was maH! And it was nice to see Capt. Jean Luke Picard in the movie as well. :) The book was too big for a single movie and they crammed much into it, so much so it was confusing for people like me who had not read the book. But it's world building was awesome!
@walt_man
9 ай бұрын
The set design, craftsmanship and tailoring in the '84 film are still visually striking and inspiring. From Dune [Cryo], Dune II, Dune 2000 and beyond. The film inspired a distinct style that made it memorable for 30+ years. It's not bland, bleak, or boring. It's ostentatious, baroque and powerful. It's a shame that the Studio/Lynch where ganged up on by Hollywood sycophants. Book differences aside [including the ending] the '84 interpretation is a must watch. *LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS*
@lukebaxter3252
Жыл бұрын
I sure hope you do a retrospective series on the Stargate franchise, and even Terminator.
@AndyMcCavish
Жыл бұрын
I was 15 when this film came out & it got its hooks into me at exactly the right time - I was getting into all things sci-fi & I still love it to this day. I never really notice the flaws. Guess its decided what I'm watching tonight now.
@QuanTran-xb9zx
Жыл бұрын
Fear is the mind killer... always remember that line when I first watched it as a young kid. I must say it helped me to be not afraid of things in general growing up. So a great movie and self help guide lol.
@glenjo0
Жыл бұрын
Ha, am watching this movie again today. Read Dune when it came out, and remember thinking that the movie was not as good as the books, but still a good introduction to Dune if you had not read the books. I think Lynch did a great job considering how hard it was going to be to get this book translated to film. Would love to see a director's cut, but I doubt if that will ever happen.
@yggdrasil2
Жыл бұрын
Delivering fair and balanced reviews is an art form that you're almost single-handedly is keeping alive on KZitem rn.
@tomichel1
Жыл бұрын
Duke Leto Atreides: " I'll miss the sea, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." Man that quote blew my 10y/o mind when I watched that movie back then, when it was released. And it helped me slowly to get out of my introverted shell. Real good sci-fi Can help to see things differently, and more openly. 👍
@guardian1326
Жыл бұрын
I feel that if you combine the 84 movie with the sci-fi miniseries, you have pretty faithful adaptation
@MrJibbajabbawocky
Жыл бұрын
Miniseries script, Lynch direction and Delaurentis budget with Toto score. :)
@Fusako8
Жыл бұрын
I've met his son a couple times. (Franks') Brian is GIDDY about the new movies. I occasionally pester him to do something with A Man of Two Worlds.
@NexusTrimean
Жыл бұрын
As much as it's not a great adaption, I love this movie. I saw it in probably 2009, and it got me into the books. My Dad had picked it up on VHS, and i was bored and it looked interesting. that lead me to reading the books, and falling in love with the universe. i now have copies of Every bit of dune to hit the big or small screen. So much fun. So much Camp.
@cameronward9443
Жыл бұрын
Dune is just such a strange heady sci fi movie. It's not a simple story and it's imagery is weird and intentionally written in a way that leaves it mysterious. It makes any adaptation hard to do. I'm glad you mentioned the Mini Series. That was extremely well done and it's generally forgotten by most.
@damonappel
Жыл бұрын
Lynch's Dune is one of the greatest movies ever filmed. The passion of the art is on every film frame, and in every performance. It's sad that Lynch himself can't look upon this work with the same love that many of us do.
@JGARCIA2012FULL
Жыл бұрын
I saw this movie in the cinema at the age of 11, and I never understood why it was difficult to understand or why it was not "good". The only other two movies in the same category that impressed me more in those years were 2001 and Blade Runner. This is why all of them were in my DVD collection as soon as they were available. For me, it is one of the best movies in which ideas and concepts of true science fiction occur.
@pauljmorton
6 ай бұрын
If Stewart's account of him meeting Sting is accurate, it sounds like Sting is a pretty chill and down-to-earth guy.
@JustGrowingUp84
Жыл бұрын
While I agree with a lot of the criticism, I still like this movie very much, it has a charm and exoticism to it which feel very appropriate to the novel. And I also liked the miniseries. For their budget, they did a very good job, and they also managed to cover Dune Messiah and Children of Dune!
@RictusHolloweye
Жыл бұрын
Looking back at the cast of Children of Dune it's delightful to find the other Professor X playing Leto II.
@JustGrowingUp84
Жыл бұрын
@@RictusHolloweye Yes!
@fartzinwind
Жыл бұрын
Dune shaped my perspective on a lot of things. For one it came out the year I was born, and I probably saw it for the first time far too young. The fact so much of it is dark, and twisted, and you can't understand it all because it's abstract. Call it a far cray from what it was supposed to be, that's fair, but don't say it isn't captivating. It sticks with you. It wasn't Star Trek, it wasn't a utopia, it was demented, and weird, and movies can do that. They can take you uncomfortable places without making the world uncomfortable. They can mess with your head a little. So yeah, Dune 1984 to me will always be a memorable movie. The new one is great, I probably didn't Blink enough while watching it because it was such a spectacle, but after it ended, and I went home, it just didn't hold the same, and still doesn't now. It didn't shape an emotion the same way. It was a spectacle, and amazing amazing portrait of technical achievement, but it just isn't on the same level of depth. Dune was the first novel series I read, which is a weird statement in itself. The books are also fantastically fucked up. Sometimes the world needs that as much or more than a technical achievement.
@StrawberrySoaps
Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see Universal work something out with Lynch to make an actual Director’s Cut, but failing that, I would love to see Spicediver* make a 4K official “Ultimate Cut” of the film with Universal to honor the passion that clearly was put into the film. *Do yourself a favor and KZitem “Spicediver Dune”. I feel it is as close to Lynch’s vision as we will likely get at this point. It easily rose my personal rating of this film from a 4/10 to a 8/10. Great stuff!
@exidy-yt
Жыл бұрын
I still love this movie warts and all, and find it FAR superior to the genuinely incomprehensible Denis Villneuve thing that came out recently. The SF Channel miniseries was superior to the 20 years newer version! Will be interesting to see what you have to say about that one Rowan, your coverage of Lynch's movie is great. (As for fanedits, I prefer Spicediver's 'Redux' final version and consider it to be the best possible, other then what Lynch himself might have cut.)
@CoinOpTV
Жыл бұрын
still listen to the score regularly - good stuff!
@Markusewitz
Жыл бұрын
The story of Patrick Stewart meeting Sting is just hilarious! 😂
@RA10H56
Жыл бұрын
I loved the movie! I was a child came out, and had the toys! I didn't quite understand the nuances if the movie but watching it through the lense of childhood will mean I will always love it. What's not to love? Men riding giant worms into battle? Terror troops? The beast Raban( who was also bluto in popeye) I read the novels much later as a teen and I liked the books alot.
@KayleighBourquin
Жыл бұрын
When I was quite young, I was at a family friend's house, and they had a computer with games on it, one of which was Dune 2: Building of a Dynasty. I loved it, it excited my brain in a way no other game had yet done. When I excitably told my Dad about the game, he and his friend sat me down and told me to watch this film that they thought I would like. That movie was David Lynch's Dune. To say I was enthralled would be an understatement. Even back then I knew the film was... a bit weak, but it didn't matter. The worldbuilding, the characters and the story captivated me. Not long after my Dad gave me his copies of the Dune saga of books, most of which I still own. I ended up reading the first three, but still have never gotten to the latter three (something I should probably get around to). And ever since then, I've been a huge fan of Dune. I got my own copy of Dune 2, and then Dune 2000, Emperor: Battle for Dune, watched the SciFi channel miniserieses, saw Denis' part 1, got Dune: Spice Wars, and got some comic adaptations. I haven't expanded into the Brian Herbert books however, unsure whether I would enjoy them or not, given the divisive nature of those books among other fans.
@OrpheusOverdrive
Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up just for having the late, great Harlan Ellison in your video.
@BubblegumCrash332
Жыл бұрын
This was on daytime TV on Saturday and Sundays in the 90s. I remember as a kid thinking this movie is so complex and deep I wouldn't understand it until I grew up. It turns out thats a half truth but I love this film, warts and all. That TOTO soundtack will always be a classic.
@RonHarrisMe
Жыл бұрын
In the late 80's I rented DUNE from my local Mom and Pop Video Store. My VHS version had with it, a 60 PAGE PAMPHLET you were asked to READ BEFORE watching the video. It's the ONLY time I had ever seen this.
@robwebnoid5763
5 ай бұрын
Harlan Ellison hit the nail on the head, that something as difficult, long & complex as Dune would have been impossible as a live-action adaptation, but that it finally drove through. Despite the 3 times it was tried ("They tried & died." - GH Mohiam, hehe), it was the 4th time that did it, first shortly with Ridley Scott & then with David Lynch. Thus it was the first brave attempt to get it to the screen. In other words, it finally got greenlit. The Harrison 2000 & Villeneuve 2021 versions, not to mention the PC games, would have never existed as they exist now if it wasn't for this first brave step with Lynch, DeLaurentiis & Universal, even if the attempt became a failure, albeit a cult classic after. Again, this was a stepping stone. The fanmade 2012 Spicediver cut (at 4k upscale as well) really helps the Lynch version align a little bit more with the book. There is no doubt there will be a 4th, 5th, 6th etc re-adaptation, decades from now & decades in between. As long as the story is retold for the yet-unborn future generation of audiences, Dune will continue. I mean, its story itself is 10-thousand years in the making. In the end, we can all thank Frank for visiting the sand dunes of the Oregon beaches in the 1950s. 04/21/24
@JoeyArmstrong2800
5 ай бұрын
I love Dune 1984. Movie making was definitely different then from today. Now you can put anything in a computer and mess with it for months in end to your desired outcome. Back then it was the directors, Artists, craftsmen with the studios millions of dollars that just had to run with it. You had to believe it would turn out because once the ball is rolling you have no choice. Way more creativity than today.
@therealjohngalaxy
Жыл бұрын
Watching your retrospectives reminds me how much I love sci-fi! Thank you! There is something magical and grand about these big sci-fi movies old and new that just feels so good! Keep up the great videos!
@msbrech
5 ай бұрын
I didn't pick up on the idea of Pink Floyd doing the soundtrack for Jodorowsky's Dune until I rewatched this. Now I can't stop thinking about how epic that could have been.
@blupunk01
Жыл бұрын
I will always have a particularly fond memory of seeing Dune in the theater. I was in my later teen years, and having been a big sci-fi fan for some time, I'd read everything Herbert had written in the Dune universe to that point. I went with a friend who also really liked science fiction but had never read any of the novels so I gave him a basic rundown on the story having heard that some things in the film weren't that well explained. As we're watching the film, we reach about the fifth time you hear Paul's voiceover thinking "Am I the one?" when my friend leans over and whispers "He's gonna be REAL disappointed if he isn't." I had tears in my eyes with suppressed laughter.
@brose2323
Жыл бұрын
I started watching this at the age 19 , in 1992. I wore that video tape out. In 2010 i found myself working the gate in Afghanistan and this movie got back into my watch cycle. Nothing like visualizing a giant sandworm coming through the longe range to help you get by sitting in the tower.
@urbanstarship
Жыл бұрын
I love the recent Dune movie, but I sort of missed the dream-like strangeness the 84 version brought to the story. I do cringe a bit at the optical effects and shields (real shame knowing that the animators put so much effort in to do something original), but the sets, costumes and miniature work still look epic.
@KingBlaziel
Жыл бұрын
My first exposure to Dune was through the roleplaying/strategy game from 1992, at the time I had no idea it was based upon a book or had movie adaptations. A few years later, one of my teachers was surprised I wasn't aware of the book (I don't fully recall how that conversation started) and recommended I find a copy and read it - which I found in the school library luckily. That book changed me, it changed my way of thinking, my way of writing - it was brilliant. It wasn't until a few years after that (around 2006), that I chanced upon the SyFy channel adaptations of Dune & Children of Dune in my local video rental store that I then learnt about all the various visual adaptations. I like the SyFy versions, I though they were done quite well, but one I saw the extended cut of Lynchs' Dune, that one has been the definitive version since, for me.
@danandtab7463
Жыл бұрын
My opinion, of the three filmed versions, this one, Syfy Miniseries, and Dune 2021...this is the one with the best Gom Jabbar scene. Though Dune 2021 comes pretty close second.
@ZaGaijinSmash
Жыл бұрын
I loved this film as a kid. I really felt the sense of epic and enjoyed the inferred depth of the characters even if, as you say, they really didn’t get to do much.
@TMS5100
Жыл бұрын
I liked the personal shield effects in the 1984 version better than the 2021 version. lynch's version has its own charms and i like both versions. the sets and costumes are glorious in lynch's version and i think he did a good job with what he had. the dune 1984 music is memorable, the 2021 version is generic.
@redsabreanakin
Жыл бұрын
I really like Denis' "Dune" watch it all the time but I still prefer Lynchs Dune, for everything you mentioned. Especially the music as you said, but the biggest factor....is that Kyle will always be my Paul Atriedes. He was fantastic.
@TMS5100
Жыл бұрын
@@redsabreanakin i do think denis' version of the voice is way better. lynch's version is cheesy.
@andrewglazebrook1585
Жыл бұрын
Much better than the soulless Denis Villeneuve version. Classic casting, production design, music !
@joesmith201212
Жыл бұрын
As soon as it came out in the rental stores I remember making my mom rent it... I was so enthralled watching it at home on my VHS... Fell in love with it right away... I love the desert scenes, the worms, the musical score, so much of it just blew me away as a little kid.
Some really disturbing scenes in this movie for kids. Amazing that they made action figures for it.
@mattblom3990
Жыл бұрын
For myself, I know that a fantastic cut of Dune '84 could have existed. Might still exist somewhere. The film is so frustrating in how compromised it is as you say, but somehow you know a great movie was there, somewhere. The proper movie was not allowed to be executed.
@garycunningham7177
Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with your assessment of the film. Even comparing watching it with Star Trek The Motion Picture. You were able to articulate what I’ve been feeling over the years. Excellent job
@AzureIV
Жыл бұрын
I found the movie Dune (1984) and the miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune (2000) and Children of Dune (2003) interesting, underrated, and underappreciated.
@gbixby3453
Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see the retrospective on the sci-fi channel series.
@VolrinSeth
Жыл бұрын
While I agree that parts of the film were overexplained, I really liked the use of internal monologue.
@RyanConway602
Жыл бұрын
I wasn't allowed to see it as I was 8 in 1984. I cried. Took till 1990 to see it. It's my favourite book series and film of all time, especially the extended version.
@thesinfultictac5704
Жыл бұрын
As a long time Dune Fan,I was excited to click on this video. Your analysis really put into to words what Ive always felt about this adaptation. My way into the world of Dune was sort of backwards. I played the RTS, read the book, then watched the Miniseries and then watched the Lynch version. I'm looking forward to seeing the review of the Miniseries which is very good in the acting but man that budget
@josie_the_valkyrie
6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this film-one of my favourites. It has its flaws, yes, but it’s so surreal and otherworldly. I still think it captures the world of Dune so much better than the other adaptations. Also, that TOTO soundtrack!! 😍
@Midire
Жыл бұрын
My favourite movie, despite it being older than me. Gonna fire up spice wars after watching this.
@ralphclark
Жыл бұрын
Many of the actors in this film went on to work with Lynch again. Nance, McGill and of course McLachlan all had major roles in Twin Peaks.
@andylikesstuffchannel
Ай бұрын
Found it disturbing not knowing anything about dune when I was a child in the 80s however I've loved it ever since ONE OF A KIND
@thecrazyswede2495
8 ай бұрын
Ca 20:24 "an odd affinity for pugs". This is in fact very important imagery. Traditionally there are only two kinds of people who own this specific race of pugs. One of them is royalty. So the scenes with those pugs are important markers, there to point it out to us specifically and powerfully that the Atreides ducal family are royalty.
@DC05570
Жыл бұрын
Captain Jean-Luc Picard became a Borg in “Dune” as Gurney before he became a Borg as Locutus in “ST: TNG” as the show reused the stillsuits from the 1984 movie for the 90s epic sci-fi TV show and beyond!!!🤯
@robertanderson6929
Жыл бұрын
I saw it in the theater and they actually handed out a crib sheet with a bunch of terms defined on it. It wasn't just a xerox sheet of paper but an actual printed tri-fold handout like someone would hand you at a boat show or industry trade show for a product. Things like Gom Jabbar and Stillsuit were defined using the same words as would later be used in the movie when these items were introduced. But without having seen the movie yet it didn't make much sense. And once the movie started it was pitch black in the theater so looking at the handout was impossible. I always wondered about the decision to include the printed material and I suspect that it was the result of test screeners complaining about the unfamiliar terms. I enjoyed the movie and like you, I did end up reading the books afterwards and really enjoyed them. I've seen the movie since and I still like it.
@melissaharris3389
Жыл бұрын
Lynch's Dune has always felt like a stage play being preformed on a football field. The performances and dramatic moments between characters work but all the BIG epic stuff feels tacked on. I read Dune before I watched Lynch's adaptation so both knew what was going on; but also felt completely lost at times; which, is quite an achievement. Toto's score and the psychedelic atmosphere has always been my favorite parts. The confused, dropped into the middle and asked to just go with it feeling is very much how Dune feels while first reading it; so, Lynch gets points for bringing the atmosphere the book to screen. Unfortunately, he and DeLurentis seem to have missed the point of Dune as a cautionary tale and critique of politics and religion; subversion of the heroic savior trope, and just gone for a Star Wars style hero's journey to triumph.
@MrJibbajabbawocky
Жыл бұрын
I feel the "happy" ending was more of a DeLaurentis addition.
@wilsonb1121
6 ай бұрын
I gotta say, I love this channel
@jforden78
Жыл бұрын
I read the book first in middle school, and then eventually saw Lynch's Dune. I accepted it for what it was a loved it so much, I went back to reread the novel again to see what was really different. I have the Lynch movie and the SyFy mini-series both on DVD. I love the Dune story and world, so I accept both for what they are. The 2021 Dune movie was spectacular, and I cannot wait to see part 2. I really hope they continue to let Denis make the remainder of at least the original books.
@FilmCram
Жыл бұрын
Wierd flex but I reached the point that I knew almost 90% of the script to this film by heart and started watching it in French just to experience a change.
@eddstarr2185
Жыл бұрын
I'm with RJC, the 1984 Dune movie inspired me to read the book. For that reason alone I will forever be a fan of the David Lynch Dune film.
@shaggycan
Жыл бұрын
Raffaella De Laurentiis is easily top 5 female producers of all time, right up there with Gale Anne Hurd and KK (even though putting her in charge of Lucasfilm was a mistake, she is an excellent producer)
@jensphiliphohmann1876
Жыл бұрын
08:04 John Hurt played Winston Smith in _1984_ at the time. I watched both _Dune_ and _1984_ in a matter of a few weeks.
@vadersfather1248
Жыл бұрын
Never had a problem with this version ,as a kid you really only had Star Wars and battle star galactica and such things this was something very different and gave the sci fi universe a different look and feel
@ChumblesMumbles
Жыл бұрын
I adore the 1984 Dune film. It's what initially brought me to the book - which I totally recognize is better than the film - but the visuals, acting, sets, music, and just the overall feel of the film is amazing. It's the only one that got Jessica spot-on right.
@Warstub
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much agree with all points. The only character who I think was miscast was Duncan Idaho. Richard Jordan doesn't come across as a hardened or disciplined fighter at all.
@TakaD20
Жыл бұрын
I always liked Lynch's Dune... well, except for the infamous hearth-plug-scene which traumatized me when I saw the movie in the cinema first at 12 years old.
@cleverlydevisedmyth
6 ай бұрын
When I saw this as a kid I my piano teacher was a nun who looked so much like Reverend Mother Gaius Helen that I was afraid she'd put my hand in the pain box if my Bach preludes didn't keep up with the metronome!
@sinjin90ful
Жыл бұрын
watched it years ago and really didn't think much of it, but last year i found BlueRay copy of it at a yard sale and watched it, in my older years i can appreciate things more and enjoyed it. I think i will watch again maybe tonight.
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe
Жыл бұрын
the best thing to come from the lynch movie is the mentat mantra which while referenced in the novel,it never says what the words are
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