If you’re not willing to watch the full video please don’t comment things that don’t even slightly represent my opinion on the game, you’re simply deterring potential players or those who’s opinions can be changed after a bad experience 🤦🏾♂️
@TexasRigged
2 ай бұрын
I think the pace can be tweaked but not drastically changed, I've noticed some "floaty-ness" with my character, unresponsive keyboard inputs etc. My character will keep walking when I'm trying to go backwards or side step the opposite direction. The slower pace is nice in my opinion though, people had this complaint about Tarkov for a long time and then peaking around corners became an issue. Tons of games are too fast, but there is for sure room for improvement here. As far as the losing gear thing goes, it's just simply this style of game. Games like Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, Dark and Darker, and so on are trying to bring difficulty and high stakes back into video games and I'm on board for it when it's done right
@Danovio
2 ай бұрын
the heirlooms are the reason i dont really mind starting from scratch
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Yeah once I figured it out I started jumping right in and leaving with a full bag to dismantle and if I died it didn’t matter 🤷🏾♂️
@thoughtgaming492
2 ай бұрын
Bro the slow pace is a feature. The lost loot on death is a feature. Forced PvP is a feature. These are reasons to be attracted to the game. If you don't see that then the game is simply not for you and thats okay. Edit: Glad to see you figured it out later in the video. Not understanding swordmaster is also on you though. Swordmaster just got a balance nerf due to how oppressive a good one is. I also think the answer to a PvE mode is "no" and the replacement is the Mithril Order. There's no gear commitment with them so theres no fear of loss.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
I understand that but I feel it should be a little lighter on new players maybe even up to level 5 to get use to everything then introduced in later levels. I feel like a large portion of gamers are afraid of PVP, I normally start all games on a PVE mode learn the basics then hop right into PVP for the foreseeable unless it gets ruined by cheaters. I appreciate you coming back after watching the full video, I’m being bombed with some people who watch the first 2 minutes and decide to dislike and leave negativity but didn’t get the full message 🤣🤣 I haven’t done too much mithril…..keep crashing….but I’ll be playing more and I’ll give swordmaster another go and see if you’re right 🤔
@thoughtgaming492
2 ай бұрын
@@StephLyonTV Sword master definitely has some unique things about it. Like you gotta basically buy a full inventory of rusty swords as part of your pre game prep. But yeah I agree that an early game PvE lock may be a good idea, but I definitely think that PvE only experience should be removed once people hit a certain number of games. Everyone will always be afraid of the PvP aspect, especially with loot lost on death, but if you don't engage with that then you're missing out on the entire core game loop.
@OnlyyHalfBad
2 ай бұрын
Games that have a very heavy focus on combat with abilities, classes with a variety of mechanics, feel awful when the movement is slow. I know that for some games like Chivalry, the slow-ish movement is justified by what the game is trying to accomplish, but for a game like Dungeonborne where the combat has more mechanics and features, the slow movement and combat just looks boring, clunky and slow. I'm not saying this game needs to be in hyper speed, but from what I've watched, fights that are supposed to be "intense" are just snooze fests.
@thoughtgaming492
2 ай бұрын
@@OnlyyHalfBad “watched” tells me everything I need to know about both your uninformed opinion and your elitist entitled attitude.
@itsPandaDan
2 ай бұрын
Losing all your gear is the core mechanic to this game, the slow pace of the game is to encourage you to make decisions and not take pointless actions. If you are slow and careful you will survive with your gear. Also, there is another mechanic where you can dismantle gear, earning a currency to craft gear in the event you DO die and lose it all. If you're not into the game, thats fine, but there are mechanics in place that I believe make this one of the more approachable extraction games in the genre.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
I speak about all of that in the second half of the video….
@nsz1050
2 ай бұрын
Really interesting to see a fresh take from someone completely new to the extraction looter genre. Some takes funnily are very evident of this, but still thought you had a couple cool ideas. Also curious to see how your view of class balance changes as you play more- since swordmaster is regarded as one of the strongest in the game atm haha
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Yeah Im trying to dabble in more genres, I’ve played dungeon crawlers when I was younger but not the new age extraction looters. It’s the reason I made this review the way I did because it kinda showed the growth of understanding as my experience went on over time 🤣🤣 I honestly just felt that in far range combat it’s lacking and once it’s q is evaded theyre lowkey sitting ducks for a bit, I find myself struggling solo sometimes but in a group with a rotation it’s fairing a lot better as I get cover 🤔
@BenSchw3
2 ай бұрын
Guys, keep watching the video. This guy is explaining his journey. His opinion of the game is changing throughout the video
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I thought others would understand when I said there’s 2 parts to the story 🫡
@zylkoris2075
2 ай бұрын
Glad you're having fun! I do agree that the game should do a much better job at pointing out that it's PVP. At least something small in the tutorial dungeon. Maybe like after the first few skeletons you'd find an NPC fighter, and a popup box saying "Other players are also here to collect loot and escape. They may fight you and steal what you already have." I too was surprised when suddenly a player dropped down on me and beat me to the floor. Only then did I realize it was pvpve. I do want a pve mode too, but I feel like that should be seperate from the pvpve mode. It should only be there to allow you to practise against the harder enemies, and learn the maps, but it shouldn't award any loot or exp. Otherwise, when you die, people will hop into the pve map, gear up and level up nearly risk-free, then go into pvp to stand a much better chance. People will make new characters and level to 20 just in pve if they can. That'll make it feel like a chore, and people will stop playing. I understand how stupid this sounds, but it wouldn't be the first time this has happened in gaming. The internet always finds the best way to make games unfun. Good vid though!
@stkouts
2 ай бұрын
I would like to hear your review on Dark and Darker and then compare them both in a single video.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Honestly haven’t played a lot of extraction type games, a few dungeon crawlers when I was younger 🤣 I’ll see if I can fit DnD in then do a review 🫡
@willyword3413
2 ай бұрын
I play this and dark and Darker. Dark an darker is like chess and this is like checkers. They are both fun in their own ways. The problem i have with dungeonborne is its all reusedskins from an engine pack. Very generic... Its still fun though. Like they need to have it be a bit darker so more places to hide and fx some issues what can be jumped on and stuff. Also they need to fix ctrl if u crouch while opening a chest or looting a body it will drop the items you try to pick up. Its annoying but only a minor gripe.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Yeah it was like an assets pack just put together 🤔 it’s fun as you said but if it’s the generic things we’re use to then it’s ultimately gonna be fun right ? Yeah the fact that if you turn up brightness then you can see all nooks and crannies In a forced PVP game makes escaping from chasers very tough OH MY GOD……that’s what that is, I’ve been so confused everytime it happens I turn back and all my items are on the floor and I keep thinking I’m over shooting grabbing em to my bag 🤣🤣
@willyword3413
2 ай бұрын
@@StephLyonTV Yeah the Ctrl thing gets super annoying when trying to be sneaky. There are some cool stuff tho like getting the flame helmet for Heirlooms / then getting the sword unlocked or the moon pendant. The thing I don't like about Heirlooms if you upgrade it you can't down grade. I suggest just keeping all blues for awhile and adding your own stats to them. You will come across a ton of blue gear playing and easy to dismantle. Once you upgrade its hard to find items to make the legendary ones. Its better to just use blues for a bit and be sneaky and it won't cost you much ore or anything. Again with the stats can boost them to about the same as off the Auction house. Also you can easily level every char to level 20 in 3 games. They should change that in a way. Its way to easy those acension potions while they cost a lot 20k you can get them for free in the quests to complete. I got my char list to 20 in about 5 hours
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Yeah the level progression seems pointless because the cap is low and easily reachable so matchmaking is weird when everyone is lobbied all together so lvl2 Vs lvl20s Yeah I’m still mostly on green because I know I can get the mats easier but the blue and purp are a lil more scarce I wanna save up maybe 200K then go crazy and move up to blue for another week or so, they need to have an option to move between the grades green or above cuz being perma locked is dog 🤣🤣 But most things I think will be resolved in the long run just right now it’s all still fresh so they’ll probably take feedback to move forward
@Drawfill
2 ай бұрын
The heirloom system is fun... Combat feels jank compared to D&D though.
@BigSkilletGaming
2 ай бұрын
If you have to play 4hrs of a game to realize it’s good, it’s probably not. I’ve played the game and it took all of one match to realize the melee combat is horrible. The devs bought the store assets but did nothing with them. They didn’t make the combat feel rewarding. It’s a bad copy of Dark and Darker
@clarkmeyer7211
2 ай бұрын
This is not a dungeon crawler that's why you're missing the point of losing all your gear. The tweaking shouldn't be on how you lose gear it should be in how you gain gear and what you can buy before going into a match.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
The creators literally have that on their website…….its a dungeon crawler….
@dinodudedanny6324
2 ай бұрын
I'm getting old, so I actually like the slow pace of the game
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Makes sense 🤣🤣 I’m 24 but some of the new games are killing to keep up with pace, 20 different combinations going at once to do things 🤣🤣
@Sp33dGames
2 ай бұрын
I started the game, after 3 mins I had to uninstall. The movement killed it for me and I play Hunt Showdown which is a slow playing game.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
I promise the more you level you get faster and your gear traits also help your speed but I get it 100% if I wasn’t reviewing things I would have probably quit on hour 3 but it gets better I can’t lie
@willyword3413
2 ай бұрын
items make you faster
@Sp33dGames
2 ай бұрын
@willyword3413 maybe but I already lost interest in the game 🤣
@IIMiikexDII
2 ай бұрын
@@Sp33dGames That just means you never had an interest in the game lol
@Bmac_Gaming
2 ай бұрын
go in with three heirlooms each run after dying
@natem7743
2 ай бұрын
video gets better later on watch it all
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Appreciate that gang 🫡🔥
@gibby230079
2 ай бұрын
great review. i found it very fair explaining the pros and cons . i haven;t tried it yet but i like what was said so i will give it a go. thank you!
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
No problem! Appreciate the feedback🫡🔥 But for real it’s gonna be a bit tough to get use to but once you do and get into the game I promise you’ll enjoy it
@itsPandaDan
2 ай бұрын
If you have played any other extraction games this will be easy for you
@ronaldtreitner1460
2 ай бұрын
funny i downloaded it and played the tutorial no problem worked great. after that it went into character creation and when i got to the naming of my character it was completely bugged, every name input resulted in timed out and then the error of doom some kind of graphics error i think was set of by the timing out glitch which resulted no matter how fast i was. so i decided the game was overrated crap and uninstalled it.
@daevalous
2 ай бұрын
Is bro fr crying about loosing loot in a Exfil game?
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
Is bro yapping without watching the whole video 😱
@danehocutt6893
2 ай бұрын
@@StephLyonTVlol
@wonderfuljinn1096
2 ай бұрын
Its good game.
@StephLyonTV
2 ай бұрын
I agree 💯🔥
@sophiesthirdchoice4903
2 ай бұрын
This is suck a weak DaD clone. Zero flow, zero atmosphere. The only thing it has is an abundance of loud simp bois. Sad.
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