this is the most relatable firefly build ive seen so far
@izmaelthespacebeast7174
28 күн бұрын
Fr.
@ankitjadhav6775
28 күн бұрын
Still need Hmc and and ruan mei 🌝
@Flash80085
28 күн бұрын
@@ankitjadhav6775ruan mei isn't a necessity but hmc is definitely needed
@jeffdigalscholar3460
28 күн бұрын
@@ankitjadhav6775what's wrong with that? It's only a single limited character compared to other dps who requires a lot of limited 5 stars in order to be functional. I'd say she is very F2P friendly.
@AmitRoy-ry5fx
28 күн бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing!
@crownlix5064
28 күн бұрын
This is by far the most relatable build I've seen, thanks g
@plang-plang5035
28 күн бұрын
So Super Break is also scaled on a character's BE accorrding to it's formula. And with Firefly's 300% BE, it gives a huge Super Break which means they're compatible. Not to mention they gave Firefly a huge speed which means she gets a lot of turns in 1 cycle while in enhance state. So she can spam the Super Break a lot while she's in enhance state
@FireflyStellaronHunter
27 күн бұрын
okay so BE + ATK firefly is the way to go. good thing i’m guaranteed. no way i’m getting her LC because i just got Acherons but will her f2p 4 star option work?
@plang-plang5035
27 күн бұрын
@@FireflyStellaronHunter use Mikhail LC cuz that's the only one that gives BE. Max it up to S5 if possible
@FireflyStellaronHunter
27 күн бұрын
@@plang-plang5035 okay thanks
@aidanarmaggeddon
27 күн бұрын
Aeon is also alright I think since ATK gives her BE.
@iAmPrice
26 күн бұрын
@@FireflyStellaronHunteri would say speed over atk, atk doesn't contribute to break dmg, its just to help with the 3400 atk cap for 60% extra break effect trace. If you can get 160 speed base, she can move upto 5 times (with a DDD in team) while in her ult state, which imo is more important
@Soma82106
28 күн бұрын
1:36 SAM became smaller than the boss version.
@grildrago
28 күн бұрын
Yeah.... SAM got a lot of nerf
@RaihanMaulanasalim
28 күн бұрын
Yep thats good enough better than getting 360 be and her lc just to get penetration and only deal 300k dmg
@lollmaonice
28 күн бұрын
yea, it's really weird people are forcing the 360%be on her equipment alone when you can gain break effect externally.
@sayorimiko
28 күн бұрын
What do you mean? Firefly with that much BE and LC already deals 500k ST on other videos. People have already looked into the Super Break damage formula and BE really scales extremely hard with Super Break. Even from this video, which is a crit build with relatively low BE, Super Break dealt almost 70% of the total damage.
@RaihanMaulanasalim
27 күн бұрын
@@sayorimiko are you talking about leaks comparison with boothill that each hmc and rm and Gallanger have 200 be and Firefly have 500 be in battle total? VERY RELATABLE
@sayorimiko
27 күн бұрын
@@RaihanMaulanasalim You don't realize that HTB E4 and Watchmaker 4pc provides so much extra BE for the rest of the team?
@RaihanMaulanasalim
27 күн бұрын
Now compare it with e0s0 ff in this video all of them barely have decent stats and still hit 300k on weakness break enemy and still able to deal 200k on enemy with toughness bar, now you want to do full be build with crazy amout of investment just to hit 500k on weakness break enemy? Did you forgot when she hit Enemy with toughness bar she cant even hit 20k @@sayorimiko edit : e0s0 ff in this video also hit 500k so what are you yapping about
@pioraphaelcarbonilla1699
28 күн бұрын
Sound quality hits dif 🔥🔥
@czarson6694
28 күн бұрын
imo they should have her own superbreak in her kit
@iDontReallyKnowTbh
28 күн бұрын
They should just let her do break dmg on her enhanced skill
@czarson6694
28 күн бұрын
@@iDontReallyKnowTbh that would be ideal
@itsbenjt
28 күн бұрын
@@iDontReallyKnowTbhwhat point is there for boothill?? He’d power crept in one patch
@hanafia9533
28 күн бұрын
@@itsbenjt I think firefly releasing as a break effect dps already powercrept him
@user-ow1iz7th3i
28 күн бұрын
@@hanafia9533 not rlly. Boothill will outdo firefly in some areas and particularly in the upcoming boss endgame mode theyre gonna release in 2.3 or 2.4. Firefly mostly needs to be in her ult form to be able to do most of her dmg and get her boosts. Theyre both really good in different areas
@recker4267
27 күн бұрын
finaly a video without using her LC and relatable stats, i would like to see the performance with pela or guinaifen instead of RM also
@kooweijing9061
28 күн бұрын
I wonder what about the 4* light cone that was meant for her? Is it unreliable as it only provide sustain and not much DMG boost?
@ghostbladez7781
28 күн бұрын
It's hard to tell, these enemies are probably the ones that FF is best suited to fight against and are the easiest and the damage they do isn't bad. But I don't know if other enemies are as good as this or not.
@chainsdean
27 күн бұрын
Question, in this setup, would an Atk Orb be better for a Hybrid Critbreak Sam?
@blazikenfury8852
28 күн бұрын
So can someone cross check whether I am correct or not. These are all the Break effect sources for an E0S1 Firefly with HMC, Ruan Mei+ Sustain: 30 Watchmaker Set 30 HMC Ultimate 30 HMC E4 (U need 200 BE on HMC which is easily achievable when we get E6, probably next patch) 56 From her Relic(16) and Planar(40) set 20 From Ruan Mei Talent 65 from Break effect Rope 60 From Signature LC 36 (If you build upto 3k atk) This brings the total upto 327% Break effect. You easily get 33% from substats on Firefly or more from HMC's E4. After this as you have reached 360% for her DEF ignore passive isn't it better to focus on crit? Because Break effect will only scale on Weakness broken enemies with Super break and the normal fire break. If a new wave spawns or you're not breaking fast enough wouldn't it just be better to focus on raw damage? Like obviously without crit traces or LC it won't be anything insane, but something like 60 -120 crit ratio would be good enough. Edit: She also gets 37.3 from traces, so she has around 364 Break effect without a single substat.
@janablom823
28 күн бұрын
37.3% from minor traces. I think BE rope is a bait. You can reach 360 without is quite easily if you're pulling her lightcone. With my HMC build i mathed it out to be around 350 before any sub stats with an atk% rope
@thomasberviller3207
28 күн бұрын
Apparently peoples did the math and going for full break gives a better result than gambling on crits to happen. Especially since most of her damage (ranging from 50% to 80% of it apparently) comes from break damage during which you ignore about 67% def with her full kit active. It's also much easier to build since you don't have to care about having an actual crit ratio which isn't easy to achieve when you already want to have 3400 out of combat attack and something like 134 spd (since at 181 spd during ult you get an extra action).
@blazikenfury8852
28 күн бұрын
@@thomasberviller3207 Are we sure this math is correct for all scenarios? Like sure if the enemy is an elite, is broken once and takes constant Super breaks, and dies, then we move to the next wave then it's fine. But if there are multiple waves, maybe in Pure Fiction, or Argenti spawning his pillars, or if we break right at the end of Ultimate uptime and now the time enemy is broken doesn't line up with Ult, then what? Also then she becomes garbage against enemies who can prevent break for a bit like Sam or Automaton Gatekeeper
@Vekysus
28 күн бұрын
@@blazikenfury8852yeah it sounds like people are calculating perfect sceneries for her kit, the amount of showcases where she wasted 2/3s of her Ult trying to break and doing no damage since she had full break stats I saw is crazy If people look at the modifiers on her ESkill instead of looking at the kit alone focused on the break part, she hits much harder than Seele's ult, so I don't understand why Crit is something people think is not viable
@yzashclipsnmixx6965
27 күн бұрын
All I can say is that, if she can clear stages, then she's good to go. Not everyone is open to new ideas and mechanics when it's still in theory. If you want her then pull for her, if you're disappointed then don't
@FunZenCh
27 күн бұрын
Haha thats me😅
@definitelynotatroll777
27 күн бұрын
Its always the mc, ruan mei and gallagher in every Firefly's showcase 😂
@Aura1342
27 күн бұрын
It’s the bis (best in slot) team, yes I agree it gets old, but it is meant to show what firefly can do and if I’m not mistaken, they are still making changes to firefly currently
@Aura1342
27 күн бұрын
To add onto this firefly currently is to reliable on mc harmony for actual dmg which is why they are making changes still, not to mention her overall kit is all over the place atm
@akifhossain5122
27 күн бұрын
@@Aura1342 that's reassuring, so the window for buffs is still open? I just hope she gets a good amount of toughness damage so I don't have to rely on that banjo playing woman
@kooweijing9061
28 күн бұрын
Usually u wanna have 360% BE threshold to maximize her A3 traces that grants her ignore def. Speaking of ignoring def, def shred also amps up the DMG exponentially. So I also wanna see Silver Wolf and Pela with her.
@Vekysus
28 күн бұрын
You are allocating 110% BE stats that could go to another stats to get only 10% Def ignore, she has a 560% multiplier on her ESkill, that more than Seele's ult, going all out to do damage only on break windows is not ideal
@Aura1342
27 күн бұрын
@@Vekysus technically speaking right now firefly’s kit overall is not ideal, has in too many requirements and too all over the place if yk what I mean tho I do see your point too after all you get diminishing returns for having too much of one thing
@khai_xi
27 күн бұрын
damn these numbers are pretty big despite being e0s0
@fernandanaomiburgosdelgado8333
27 күн бұрын
I have a challenge, how about now with 4 or 3 star cones and without Ruan Mei, will it be possible?
@Tilde_Shii
27 күн бұрын
Fucking needs Ruan to really get the weakness break for her adv. For.
@Ferociouskitty
28 күн бұрын
I want fu xuan, but somehow I want firefly to decimate my MoC
@Cat-pv6yx
28 күн бұрын
Same :(
@ehasanulhoque2943
28 күн бұрын
2:02 23k non-break dmg. OK, imo yeah we're building crit and break
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
You don't need to build crit. I don't think it's necessary
@Lordu15
28 күн бұрын
Nice trailblazer showcase. Dmg looks insane
@Anonymous-sd6hq
28 күн бұрын
idk those 400k's are coming from ff not mc
@hansbernd49
27 күн бұрын
@@Anonymous-sd6hq remove hmc and watch firefly do 20k dmg
@Anonymous-sd6hq
27 күн бұрын
@@hansbernd49 There are videos without hmc where she does 200k+ on a skill. Furthermore why is it bad that she likes hmc in her team? It's literally a free unit you don't have to pull for. Third super break scales really well with people who have a lot of toughness break and ff has a lot of toughness break so it's not actually hmc doing that damage but it's damage derived from the toughness break of another unit (there's more to it but it's unnecessary to mention)So when you see huge super break numbers it's more so a show of how good the toughness break of a unit is rather than hmc. It's a really nice synergy why so much hate for it?
@hansbernd49
27 күн бұрын
@@Anonymous-sd6hq no other dps in the game gets such a big boost from a specific unit. Usually the best supports for certain characters do 20-30% more dmg than the next best option like sparkle for danil. But firefly does more than double with HMC and its easier to build. There shouldnt be such a big gap, it really feels like they removed a core part of her kit and slapped it on another unit which sucks. Firefly has exactly ONE good team that is leagues above anything else which is really boring. Remove HMC -> half dmg, remove ruan mei -> half dmg its stupid. Not to mention how feast or famine she is with the way her ult works (clearing the wave withing her ult resets the countdown like robin) and how squishy/risky she can feel. So she is harder to use, more restrictive and still weaker than acheron in her BEST situation. I dont want powercreep but either make it less restrictive or make it strong enough to be worth lol. Boothill has both innate break detonation AND the better element (phys break op), so he is more well rounded/less restrictive and honestly in his current form probably stronger than FF. Also its pretty bad for whales that her best teammate is a free e6 char everyone gets, that means her ceiling is much lower than other dps who can use e6 5* supports with sigs so she is also gonna make less money for hoyo lol. TLDR: I dont mind Hmc being her best teammate but its her ONLY good teammate (+ ruan mei) and the gap is too big.
@jjayxm4710
27 күн бұрын
@@hansbernd49the character is a free E6 it doesn’t matter 😭
@koluha9066
28 күн бұрын
So what is better between full break/atk or crit/break/atk ?
@Exodia_99
28 күн бұрын
Just focus on break is enough. Her damage is mid without break so don't bother to crit
@Schione.
28 күн бұрын
Me personally I'd build her just like in the video. It's definitely harder to build than full BE, but i like having crit when her atk scaling is that high
@yanuwwuu
28 күн бұрын
There is no way they’re gonna let her kit pass into release because it’s all over the place right now. I’d say wait until they make some much needed changes to prepare building her.
@mobilmaksimusprim
28 күн бұрын
In Theory... ALL OF IT! If you have ITB and ruan mei... Thats +110% Beffect, you must have 250 in fight at least, of course 360% is better. If you in fight have 3400 ATK and 360% BE (250% at least) other rols you can take in CR/CD. I think, potentially, firefly is a character, who can be build on "ok" level and deal good damage, but if you spend A LOT of time for BEST relics, and get a perfect balance - You're gona destroy everything.
@koluha9066
28 күн бұрын
👍
@YORI8886.
28 күн бұрын
I really wanna see crit firefly, can you do it please?
@Hyrou
28 күн бұрын
this is crit ff
@YORI8886.
28 күн бұрын
@@Hyrou No i mean with crit team like bronya or Tingyun
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
That's not gonna be good she's mainly break effect? And break effect doesn't scale with crit dmg nor atk@@YORI8886.
@jsle5376
28 күн бұрын
Break effect scaling is cool and all but the enemies that turn around and say "Nah, you can't break me right now" just temporarily shuts this playstyle down, I don't know how to describe it, like a forced downtime? I don't know what future enemies are gonna do Anyways I'm not knowledgeable with all this stuff so maybe to the big-brains it doesnt actually matter lol
@wafflepanken6641
28 күн бұрын
You mean character like the monkey soulglad, bronya and etc? Yeah it's pretty annoying
@tiasm919
28 күн бұрын
If you swap out Att% boots to SPD boots and then Crit Body to Att% i think you can hit 3k+ Att & 180+ spd(on ult) 757(char base att) + 529(Aeon Lc base att) + 353 (gloves) = 1.639 + 43% (body piece) + 64% (S5 Aeon) = 3.396 92 (base speed) + 5 (talent) + 25 (speed boot) + 9,76 (RM's talent 92 x 10,6%) + 5,52 (2pc Kalpagni 92 x 6%) = 137 + 50(ult) = 187 The combustion thingy speed is fixed at 90, so 10000unit/90speed = 111,11AV If you want to move 2 times during ult, excluding the first action from 100%AV, then you need to attain 111 AV. So 10000unit/?spd = 111 AV ----> ? = 180spd This is without any external AV advance source like DDD
@tiasm919
28 күн бұрын
If you want to move 3 times during ult, excluding the first action from 100% AV advance on ult, u need 30000unit/?speed = 111AV ---> ? = 270speed during ult, which mean you need 220speed outside ult, which is most likely not obtainable or just not worth it
@zacvarg3530
28 күн бұрын
i like your idea, but just FYI gloves dont count as base atk. so the atk% increases dont multiply with it, it gets added at the end with other additive atk stats. base atk (the stuff that gets multiplied) is just character + lightcone
@tiasm919
27 күн бұрын
@@zacvarg3530 ahh, okay, thanks for the info
@bruh-pb5kr
27 күн бұрын
no actually, 270 spd is required to get 4 turns and not 3, to get 3 turns during ult it's 90*2(excluding the 100% AA)=180SPD @@tiasm919
@tiasm919
27 күн бұрын
@@bruh-pb5kr i'm sorry, could you breakdown the calculation for me ?
@firehedgie605
28 күн бұрын
Should I build my Gallagher just for Firefly?
@MrBlind-kr4vq
28 күн бұрын
When you build himyoull be using him alot instead cuz of his aggressive playstyle
@zacvarg3530
28 күн бұрын
build him, seriously. hes so fun and high damage with superbreaks from hTB. and the new fire dmg break sets for firefly are gonna be crazy for him too lol
@seyenas
27 күн бұрын
yes he'll contribute a good amount of damage
@siema14123
27 күн бұрын
People say shes to dependent on harmony trail blazer meanwhile kafka is completely dependent on black swan and people have no problems with that
@danielw.2456
27 күн бұрын
Literally this. At least HTB is 100% free so once you get Firefly your all good. Whereas if you want that Kafka+Black Swan combo you need to get two separate limited units as opposed to just one.
@Aura1342
27 күн бұрын
People don’t like it when they’re required to use specific units for specific teams, even though that’s how they balance the game in a sense
@Aura1342
27 күн бұрын
I’m not disagreeing with your post at all by the way ❤️
@khainguyeninh5452
28 күн бұрын
She act more than other videos, maybe her action is increase more, if that great fix
@deedee3355
28 күн бұрын
She is very2 good in a really limited team roster. People who says HMC is better than RM for her surely haven’t seen any FF content without RM. And not surprisingly she’s really bad without RM. Cause in my opinion RM and HMC is really important for her, my takes right now, she’s in a very bad position. She’s really good, but wont work outside RM & HMC team comp.
@duocnguyen2223
27 күн бұрын
0:22 1:50 and so many times how can seele act 2 turn 0 action value
@apleb7605
27 күн бұрын
Wouldn’t attack orb be better than fire damage?
@nobody-xh6ii
27 күн бұрын
She has a built in fire weakness application to enemies. So probably not
@apleb7605
26 күн бұрын
@@nobody-xh6ii But she also has that passive which increases break effect based on attack. That and having a fire damage orb doesn’t really have anything to do with adding fire weakness to enemies. The only thing that matters when it comes to fire weakness is break effect, and break efficiency.
@cosmos4405
28 күн бұрын
what is that moc buff? firefly got a lot of turns without e2
@gym4379
28 күн бұрын
It's the one that gives av when breaking the trotter
@luciel_sama
28 күн бұрын
@@gym4379 the problem is that this moc buff also gives break effect = break dmg for characters like her, so this dmg here is buffed
@peak1824
28 күн бұрын
@@luciel_sama yes and u can see after she out of enchanted state she need to skill 2 time to ult if it not the help of trotter she wil already lose 1 cycle since her spd in normal state is very low
@madmorli5927
28 күн бұрын
Her dmg is so mid with crit build. I think it'a better to go all in for break effect
@sovannchean1222
28 күн бұрын
Is it really better with full break effect ???
@Grayewick
27 күн бұрын
Because she's not meant to be built with Crit to begin with 💀
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
@@sovannchean1222i mean she's mainly a break effect unit so yeah
@PCNebula
28 күн бұрын
honestly that's too much crit, should have no crit at all and full break effect.
@sovannchean1222
28 күн бұрын
i don't know how to really build Firefly and boothill go with crit with 150+ break or go full break can someone help me
@KawiiBalls
28 күн бұрын
Full break for now ,lets wait for the other versions they're prob gonna change something with her kit @sovannchean1222
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
@@sovannchean1222boothill is different from firefly, firefly is full break effect no crit needed. Boothill literally has a trace that gives him crit rate and crit dmg so it's obvious that u need crit for him but most importantly break eff. Firefly traces are all break effect so that should give you an idea
@bg3545
28 күн бұрын
How super break work? Is it with attack% or break damage%
@mariosunshinelopez3716
28 күн бұрын
scales off break effect and by how much the ability reduces weakness bar
@WhiteHairSupremacy
28 күн бұрын
I keep seeing Firefly being unusable without the super break mechanic from HMC and I'm not liking it rn
@EddieBlake215
28 күн бұрын
yeah... that's what caught my eye too... because of her scaling on BE she becomes useless outside of when she breaks an enemy unless you build her with Crit/CD as well as attack and BE to get all her buffs... her team NEEDS to have HMC because any other characters will yield much worse results, also, Ruan Mei + Gallagher are similarly highly valuable and there are very little options to them that yield the similar results... I hope they polish her kit a bit because she will be mid tier if she has hard requirements for teammates, even harder requirements than Acheron tbh...
@soap8451
27 күн бұрын
whats wrong with it? hmc is a free unit and everyone have it (well except for once who didnt complete the quest) i dont see whats the reason of not liking it
@EddieBlake215
27 күн бұрын
@@soap8451 I'm not too fond of it because it feels restrictive, for example, I want to use HMC on one side of MoC and Firefly on the other side, I'm better off using Himeko rather than Firefly because she will do very bad without HMC... sure, for someone who wraps up MoC 12 in 2-3 cycles it won't be an issue but for people struggling to clear MoC 12 it will be an issue because you end up switching your teams a lot to guarantee the 3 stars...
@MaraSov
27 күн бұрын
@@soap8451 if you don't understand the problem then let me enlighten you, an enemy like the Aurumaton Gatekeeper, Yanqing or Sam decide to lock their toughness bar then you're fucked because her damage outside breaking the toughness bar is trash if you don't have a crit build.
@monbebehere1607
27 күн бұрын
ok and its a char based around break mechanic just like boothill. So what. if you dont like break then dont pull its that simple. cry
@isekaye
27 күн бұрын
what is superbrake?
@BabygirlUwU_
27 күн бұрын
Extra break damage when you deal damage to an enemy that has already been weakness broken, only Harmony Trailblazer can create this effect with their ult
@isekaye
27 күн бұрын
@@BabygirlUwU_ Thanks for explaining that!
@7hoshi30
28 күн бұрын
can you replace ruan mei with robin?
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
I wouldn't recommend that
@astroarcheology
27 күн бұрын
@@zbxbiiin- not everyone have ruanmei tho
@zachricca4546
27 күн бұрын
not to the same effect. Behind the curtain what RM is doing (the res pen doesn't matter as much) is amping break effect and break efficiency. Efficiency is 1.5 on the super break damage and makes normal break faster, and BE is obviously a damage amp. Robin will still be better than some harmony for sure, although I think Bronya might be the best option for FTP/light spender simply for 100% advance to get ult faster, depending on your sustain. If my knowledge of her energy is up to date, tingyun may not help as she takes a lot of energy. On the other hand silverwolf can also help as defense down is an independent multiplier that does apply to break effect. SW can also viably be run with a lot of BE which is good for HMC team.
@zbxbiiin-
27 күн бұрын
@@astroarcheology ik im just saying i wouldn't recommend it
@xenoemblem7
28 күн бұрын
I feel like people judge her performance too early, I mostly see doompost instead of actual criticism (some of you are sad). Does she rely on HMC? Somewhat yes, but are you complaining about a free 5-star? Also, people somehow don't see that Firefly can act more than once in 1-cycle.
@wafflepanken6641
28 күн бұрын
Yea, when you combine her dmg, she can at least do 800k+ a turn
@xenoemblem7
28 күн бұрын
@@wafflepanken6641 What do you think she needs for buffs?
@shotgunammo
28 күн бұрын
All sue neexs for buffs is a builtvin superbreak so she can be a bit more versatile in teambuilding id say
@siema14123
27 күн бұрын
@@shotgunammo I'm fine with her being dependent on superbreak as long as they make more characters that work with it. Kafka is already completely dependent on black swan and people have no problem with it
@shotgunammo
27 күн бұрын
@@siema14123 just so you know, she's also reliant to have rm in her team, someone tested it earlier and without rm it took them 9 cycles to clear the weakest side of MOC 12 with full fire weaknesses enemies, with rm it went to 2 cycles, massive problem there if u ask me, also kafka isnt completely dependant on black swan what are you on about? dot team was good with sampo, black swan is just a massive upgrade over him but that doesn't mean kafka suddenly doesn't work without her, she did before so she obviously will now. That's why no one has a problem with it. Firefly literally does NOT function without hmc.
@Testerossa
27 күн бұрын
No
@akifhossain5122
27 күн бұрын
Can we get a showcases without that banjo playing ahh 😭 Not everyone has ruan mei, an f2p showcase with f2p teammates would be great
@Saberdud
28 күн бұрын
mid
@xenoemblem7
28 күн бұрын
Let's wait for her buffs.
@228Drake
28 күн бұрын
OP
@jonglopez5400
28 күн бұрын
can you explain what is not 'mid' ?
@gator9478
27 күн бұрын
shut your mouth, fanatic Acheron, Firefly's damage is more than insane
@TATACAW69
27 күн бұрын
@@gator9478 hmm i wonder who's doing the "super break" dmg.
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