I’m totally not mad that I have an e0 dhil and my firefly at half the investment does more damage then him
@hentikirby7142
Ай бұрын
To be fair he is an older gen unit. He requires a lot more investment to be close to these units. His return on investment is high, but his base is very very low. If we ever get a giga energy regen unit tho, e2 dhil will be quite a powerhouse. His ult just allowing him to constantly advance is super crazy cuz he can keep getting more and more turns. Idk what other character would be able to abuse energy regen to the level that e2 dhil would. Then again, 3.0 is going to be set up to be HP meta it seems.
@A_087_
Ай бұрын
That's bullshit and u know it
@aarushi2740
Ай бұрын
@@hentikirby7142hopefully tingyuns five star form will do that lmao
@brovinmeka8824
Ай бұрын
not gonna lie dhil is goated but still , he is a gen 1 character, acheron firefly , fexiao are the new generation
@wikidpsycokilla
Ай бұрын
Arguing which e6s5 dps is better is like arguing which NFL team would score more points against your local high school. Its understandable some people need to justify their spending, but its also understandable that others will find it silly.
@user-gi6hd5ol6f
Ай бұрын
Fun fact, most whales have both XDDD
@deedee3355
Ай бұрын
@@user-gi6hd5ol6fyup, thats why which strongest e6s5 arguement is kinda silly.
@YouryCh.
Ай бұрын
Funny thing is E0S1 DrRatio will considered to be as close to E2S1 DHIL which is quite shocking but no really suprising. 😶 Well, DrRatio get many buffs such as his BiS relics set , Topaz, Robin and Aventurine. Plus, his LC is BUSTED compared to DHIL's LC. While DHIL only get Sparkle 😅. I still shock this strong DPS was giving for free 😂.
@V1q3x-d312r
Ай бұрын
Well in the end it all depends on the MOC buff, relic-setbonus, teammates that the char can utilize and what substats u got. I mean ff got a relic and ornament set dedicated to her + even though dhil got sparkle he doesn't have a reliable/strong enough atk buffer (Imagine a ff without hmc or rm). So the strength of a unit (even if not e6) always depends way more on the external factors. And please explain to me why jq would help acheron get her ult twice as fast. He applies just as many debuffs as pela, welt and bs (please correct me if im wrong).
@eherden2169
Ай бұрын
I think one of the things that Firefly had going for upon her release is that she had her full team ready perfectly catered for her ready before hand to pre build. Now the price for her godly performance is that her team is currently restricted to Ruan Mai and Harmony MC (specially Harmony MC).
@dephtcore
Ай бұрын
The last dmg on argenti was so little because he had already hp missing
@mrgg1475
Ай бұрын
The cooler Daniel
@voidbg7017
Ай бұрын
bro's apart of the fatui with the delusion he has
@sinniiarmzendlegz7100
Ай бұрын
I'm a hug fan of Dill Pickle, but he is outclasses by newer units.
@Crazy1Apple1
Ай бұрын
Well dhil lasted close to year in his tier, because he is very universal versus any enemy, his limitation is basicaly fixed 100% by sparkle. But ff will be fucked by any enemy with locked toughens bar so she is easiest to power creep. And dhil get only 1 bis support there is more room for power UP compared to Ratio team were is 3 limited bis supports for him.
@QiQigoat
Ай бұрын
"More room to power up" sounds like blade and jingliu main these days keep it up and good luck
@somerandomguy340
Ай бұрын
@@QiQigoat Well vertical investment potential is also an important factor. The reason Acheron's E2 is so busted is because she can be paired with harmony units like Sparkle, which is a whole new unit that you can invest in to improve the team's damage. "More room to power up" is important for the long-term viability of a dps. Though there will probably be a new BIS support for dhil or jingliu or even acheron eventually.
@valkyrieregalia
Ай бұрын
This is a silly discussion. E6 Dhil and E6 FF are both far beyond what's needed to 0 cycle any MoC stage.
@gameboy53-yh4fu
Ай бұрын
Everybody's like firefly's the is strongest e6 character gabi is like stop the cap
@_Gabimaru
Ай бұрын
Jiaoqiu completely changes the game I can’t even be biased
@paulmoore2873
Ай бұрын
Acheron simple📯📯
@AzureDrag0n1
Ай бұрын
Well I looked at some e6s5 DHIL showcases and it is honestly hard to tell what is stronger. I am sorry but I have an e2 FF and there is no way in hell I could compete with an e6s5 DHIL who can hit 1.7 million per charge attack. Most likely DHIL has a higher ceiling because he can use e6s5 limited supports like e6s5 Sparkle, e6s5 Ruan Mei, and e6s5 Robin that is just going to blow everything out of the water while giving tons of action advance. The better way to compare is their gold value. Meaning how many 5 star levels a team has. So an e2s1 DHIL is worth 4 gold and an e0s0 Sparkle is worth 1 gold. Basically FF is mega powerful at e2s0 already using a e0s0 Ruan Mei because her supports cost no gold. Equal gold value then FF is much stronger. If you throw limitless amounts of money at DHIL then you may be able to beat e6s5 FF.
@_Gabimaru
Ай бұрын
@@AzureDrag0n1 thanks for commenting, but I’d like you to know I didn’t mean for e2s1 current ff team to be on par with dhil I was arguing for e2s1 ff team with lingsha when she releases since she can break enemies faster and act as a sub dps for the break team
@FeixiaoWaiter
Ай бұрын
ngl i find this discussion of comparing e6s5 to another e6s5 to be utterly worthless and stupid. it’s already proven at this point that an old e6s5 will easily be matched by a new e2s1. THAT is the rule. because if it isnt, then HSR isnt really gonna sell well with every new releases they do now would they? no one stays on top, no matter how much of a bad bitch they are. it takes utter insanity and delusion to insist that your favorite dps at full investment will ‘always be the best in the game’ when, in a cost-to-cost perspective, whoever you are using right now will be MATCHED by someone new and cheaper. it’s quite telling on the direction hoyo is now taking just based on the heavy promotion they did for the fly. we will STILL have this discussion with the SAME structure of argument but the actors will be different, only question is how soon and when 😂
@truegodofdestruction
Ай бұрын
Dhil gotta be the most boring destruction unit imo, well Yunli as well main reason I don't pull him despite me liking Dan Heng
@YoichiMutou
Ай бұрын
i mistakenly pulled him and benched since, farming his relics kinda hard 😅
@Yummers321
Ай бұрын
@@YoichiMutousame, farming his relics are 😕
@V1q3x-d312r
Ай бұрын
@@YoichiMutou tbh it doesn't matter which relics you put on him because unlike for firefly there is no setbonus for him that justifies farming/using it (besides sphere/rope). They are all just too weak. For example I use him with 2 Musketeer and 2 Watchmaker cause hitting 90/217 with 3.7k atk is just infinitly better than the 10% dmg bonus on musk.
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