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@wellersonoliveira5334
Ай бұрын
To this day I cant get over the fact that Hashirama has a sage mode from plants, but yet Hiruzen doesn't have a monkey sage mode haha
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
It’s just slug sage mode combined with 100 healings jutsu which is why he has those lines on his face, tsunade created her 100 healings off Hashirama’s, madara even says its a pathetic copy
@hiddenmarco
Ай бұрын
All the kage shoulda had sage mode fr imagine tobirama with a polar bear sage mode. Hiruzen money sage mode. Minato already has his. Give tsunade her slug sage form. And kakashi with a wolf sage mode woulda been sick af
@DragonoidBerserker1
Ай бұрын
@@hiddenmarco And how would Kakashi get his sage mode exactly? Is it because of his dog summons?
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Hashirama’s is simply something from shikkotsu forrest
@jaii5144
Ай бұрын
@@TheAwsomeMannyMadara said Tsunade's healing jutsu was pathetic not her 100 healings. That's what made him acknowledge her as Hashirama's granddaughter.
@lobsterjohnson8642
Ай бұрын
The coolest thing about pain vs Naruto is that Naruto was going all out while Pain was just trying to capture him.
@julianlu7670
Ай бұрын
And the fact that Pain just got done fighting the whole village and destroying Konoha being left with no chakra.
@lordgreed1
19 күн бұрын
naruto was in baby sage mode too so not as cool as you think it is
@lobsterjohnson8642
19 күн бұрын
@@lordgreed1 "In this world there are ninja younger than you yet stronger than me" ~Kakashi Like the guy above pointed out Nagato was already low on chakra when Naruto fought him. It was also Nagato vs the entire leaf village. Shit, reanimated Nagato went head to head against KCM Naruto, Itachi and Bee and was easily winning.
@lordgreed1
19 күн бұрын
@@lobsterjohnson8642 wtf is that kakashi quote naruto is younger than nagato lol also naruto was in baby kcm 1 mode not to mention nagato was in a broken ass edo tensei body no shit he was going to struggle nagato is cool and all but he isn't as impressive as you mofos think he is
@swagssj3
19 күн бұрын
@@lordgreed1huh? What does baby kcm 1 mean? 😭😭 also what do you mean by a broken edo tensai? And what is baby sage mode? Bro naruto had perfect sage mode coming into the fight against pain. Nagato is that strong. He was able to take on kcm 1 naruto, killer bee and itachi at the same time sure he doesn't compare to ppl like madara and all but how many ppl you know at the time could box with kcm 1 naruto?
@anunnakitheruler9306
Ай бұрын
People don’t realize the fight with Naruto and pain , pain wasn’t fighting with the intent to kill Naruto but with the intent to capture him alive to extract the nine tails
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
This is very much true and it shows a lot
@jmott2013
Ай бұрын
I still think naruto did really well. Knowing the enemy weakness and capitalizing on it are different things. But I agree. Pain definitely wasn't going all out.
@arclight7892
Ай бұрын
Pain also wasn't at his best at the start of the fight. He wasted a lot of chakra attacking people around the village and nuking the entire village. Because of this, Nagato changed his strategy of utilizing the 6 paths together to overwhelm his enemy to just using the other paths to protect the deva path while it recovers its powers.
@killakame-3434
Ай бұрын
@@arclight7892 It funny People forget that and Downplays PAiN of all People ..
@omariwilliams6309
26 күн бұрын
You can also say the same for Naruto I’m sure
@bearieroblox6451
Ай бұрын
The one thing jiraya no diffs every other shinobi at is drip. This man outfit cold as hell.
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
Tobirama: am I a joke to you?
@mightymallardz768
Ай бұрын
@___________0Z0X Jiraiya still got it but Tobirama's drip gives him More Aura.
@mojo5028
Ай бұрын
Obito w the white mask, or Sasuke
@shreymalik2531
Ай бұрын
Minato? Boruto?
@hil449
29 күн бұрын
Boruto? Really? 😂
@AsianEyes007
Ай бұрын
Hashirama: “Huh, seems like Pain has home field advantage..” **CREATES A WHOLE FUCKING FOREST OUT OF NOTHING**
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
“Or atleast he did”
@trevordavidjones
Ай бұрын
Hashirama can one-shot most of the entire series with Deep Forest Bloom 😂😂🌸
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
Let’s see Hashirama: He stomps anyone who disagrees is just hatin’ Tobirama: He should be fine Prime Hiruzen: He probably stomps Old Hiruzen: He gets cooked Minato: He’ll be fine KCM Minato: He stomps Tsunade: She probably gets cooked Danzo: Nagato will avenge Yahiko’s death Kakashi: He literally died of chakra exhaustion in the main canon DMS Kakashi: He stomps Hokage Naruto: He stomps
@stephenking2895
Ай бұрын
Hokage kakashi is stronger than war arc kakashi. As hokage he doesn’t have to worry about the chakra drain that he had from having a sharingan. His purple lightning is more versatile than raikiri. He was also to deal with someone who blitzed the fourth raikage
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
@@stephenking2895 I haven’t really gotten a gauge on how strong Hokage kakashi is which is why I didn’t include him on the list and just said “Kakashi” rather than “Hokage Kakashi”
@GeneFOX70
Ай бұрын
Hokage Kakashi fought base Kashin Koji and forced him to flee, the same Koji that defeated 10% V2 Karma Jigen. Every other Hokage except for Naruto and Shikamaru are weaker than Unstable Juubito.
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
@@GeneFOX70 read the message above to understand why I didn’t say “Hokage Kakashi” and just “Kakashi”
@AnassLouisOfficial
Ай бұрын
what do you think about 100 Healings Tsunade? the one from the Madara fight?
@NerdAlert412
Ай бұрын
Mannn people fail to realize that Pain was holding back a lot against his fight with Naruto and he was nerf. Pain wasn’t fighting with the intent to kill, he already used a large amount of his stamina, and his overall heath wasn’t good either and he still bodied Sage Naruto. And don’t even get me started on Edo Nagato who bodied KCM1 Naruto, Killer Bee and Itachi while still nerfed 😭😭 honestly if I’m being honest full powered edo Nagato is kcm2 Naruto level if not kcm2 Sage mode if we give Nagato the geto statue.
@hiihello7625
20 күн бұрын
Edo Nagato never bodied Itachi. Edo Itachi simply destroyed him
@regobing5435
20 күн бұрын
KCM2 or KCM2 Sage Mode. What are you waffling? He is underrated for sure but he is not KCM2 Level. He clearly did not hold back against Kurama and 8th Tailed Kurama got out of Chibaku Tensei. KCM2 Naruto would have killed Edo Itachi, Killer Bee and KCM1 Naruto with ease. Edo Nagato almost lost to Edo Itachi by himself. Edo Nagato is not winning against Jinchuriki 2-7 by himself. He also was not nerfed, he had more than enough Chakra from Bee. Edo Nagato is not putting KCM2 Naruto in a Chibaku Tensei.
@Garnichgutt
16 күн бұрын
@@regobing5435 Edo Nagato was directly controlled by Kabuto and had his personality erased during the later part of battle. I seriously doubt, that Kabuto knows how to perfectly micromanage Nagato.
@keithbrown2425
15 күн бұрын
@@regobing5435 nagato still had the affect of being crippled and controlled only reason he even got caught from itachi
@hero0686
13 күн бұрын
@@hiihello7625Bro a single shinra tensei instantly knocked Itachi out of the fight for multiple minutes allowing Nagato to solely target Naruto and Bee. Edo itachi is weak compared to Edo Nagato
@tiltedpotato8471
12 күн бұрын
Flying Raijin will be the perfect jutsu against six paths of pain.
@MrBeauxmont
Ай бұрын
I love Tobirama but his incident almost losing his life to the gold and silver brothers will always lower his scaling imo. Honestly it was poor writing on Kishimoto's part, with his skill set getting caught off guard is not a good enough excuse to almost lose your life (while having a Raikage with you! ) to those two. With that being said he claps the sixth paths.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Maybe bro was just fatigued
@RanMaru144
Ай бұрын
The gold and silver brothers are just strong man they don’t really have any anti feats also like the cloud village thought they could take on kurama regardless if they were wrong that should just speak to how strong they were
@KristopherDorsey-rq8ek
Ай бұрын
@Virhtue maybe but the problem is that he lost to them twice and that's very bad for alive tobirama scaling.
@Sednoob
Ай бұрын
Well, the whole team was pretty desperate, and there was Hiruzen in it which was becoming hokage the next day. Danzô was also in it, altought weaker than Hiruzen he was probably quite strong too. Just imagening those three beeing completely helpless against Kinkaku & Ginkaku & their team is frankly ridiculous. Who is seing Tobirama & Young Hiruzen losing against Kinkaku & Ginkaku ? Come on. If I remember correctly, the databook tried to defend it poorly by saying that with the 5 tools, King & Gin basically had the level of the Gokage. Anyway, the point being : Kinkaku team is supposed to be over the top OP, so Tobirama dying to it isn't supposed to be an underperformance. However, if we're trying to scale Tobirama, we know that Hiruzen has apparently a greater potential than Tobirama. And considering the high estime in which Minato is taken, I think we're supposed to have Tobirama < Hiruzen < Minato. Well, good luck in trying to put Hiruzen at that level, but I think he is supposed to be there.
@khalilwilliams1818
Ай бұрын
he also lost to 12 s class Shinobu
@i.q.1979
Ай бұрын
I don't think Jiraiya at full power is even close to KCM 1. Prove me wrong.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I agree?!
@st3pwise
Ай бұрын
Frog song is imba.
@i.q.1979
Ай бұрын
@@st3pwise What?
@iliebalica4012
Ай бұрын
Nope Not close at all
@senjuuzima891
Ай бұрын
He isn't lol.
@alexnice2221
25 күн бұрын
W video. This is why Naruto is the goat of anime. You can create so many "what if's" because the chars are so organic
@Virhtue
23 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more tbh
@gytispranskunas4984
Ай бұрын
You have to realize... Pain didn't even have the power to win against HALF of KYUUBI. And Minato was able to take down full 9 tails + Obito at the same time.
@BadForYourKidneys
Ай бұрын
Only because he had done a massive almighty push before even starting to fight Naruto. Had he never did the almighty push, he would have had enough reserves to capture Naruto. Atleast, that’s what many believe due to konan mentioning how drained he was and to not continue the fight.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
It’s monstrous
@dustin24562
Ай бұрын
That's irrelevant really pain defeated Naruto before he even transformed
@SZUSEast1
Ай бұрын
@dustin24562 Naruto only had half of Kyubi
@hil449
29 күн бұрын
That's a retcon much later
@CaptainGeneral11
20 күн бұрын
We all love Itachi, but he's not defeating Pain without Edo tensei
@Virhtue
20 күн бұрын
Lies
@madsea6719
15 күн бұрын
@@Virhtue With or without Edo Tensei, Itachi aint touching Nagato or Pain
@madsea6719
15 күн бұрын
Itachi doesnt have any sound type genjutsu and he cant destroy Chibaku tensei alone.
@starsaber9631
15 күн бұрын
Susano is capable of destroying chibaku tensei and the paths of pain eyes are all linked. Tsukuyomi is all itachi will need to win against pain. If he gets any of them in his genjustsu itachi could win relatively easily.When you think about it a sharingan user with high level genjutsu is the one real weakness pain has
@kdoka8126
14 күн бұрын
@@madsea6719 man pain biggest counter is literally genjutsu
@mosesygo4118
17 күн бұрын
There is no possible way tobirama has "limited chakra considering the jujutsu he knows how to do
@aaronwells2267
3 сағат бұрын
Well kakashi knows a thousand jutsu and can only do 3 of them without passing out 😂
@Archer170
Ай бұрын
20:20 this will always be the worse downplay.Madara says hes faster, end of story.Lee was faster than Neji But Neji was still stronger.Even got Jonin when lee stayed chunin.Naruto isn’t dragon ball thats why we have these long debates.
@miltondofula
Ай бұрын
I think people confuse Hiruzen title with Hashirams as them being of the same power or caliber.... Hizuren got called god of Shinobi because he knew every technique in the leaf and he could use all 5 elements of chakra..... Hashirama, on the other hand was due to the fact that no shinobi could beat him.... Even madara admitted to never ever winning hashirama not in sparring or even in the many wars..... To the point where even with the 9 tails and eternal mangekyo sharingan he was still inferior to hashirama.... Hiruzen power stems from his chakra control..... Minimum chakra output to devastating techniques outcomes....... Hashirama on the other hand had raw power.... So.... Both gods of shinobi... But the reasons behind the labelling are different.
@rynobehnke8289
Ай бұрын
Well actually its because he was suppose to be far stronger than the first and second Hokage (remember back than was it said that they were resurrected at full power them being weakened by being resurrected was a latter retcon as the story needed Hashirama being allpowerful to hype up Madara and use his cells as the bandaid for everything) The title he got for his knowledge was "The Professor"
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Agreed tho Hiruzen’s could be interpreted as power more so
@uncleiroh3251
Ай бұрын
Man Tobirama is my favorite! He is just the realest Guy there is. And has the best drip imo.
@Virhtue
29 күн бұрын
Watch out for my next video on Tuesday then brother!
@abk.gmt713
Ай бұрын
another banger🔥 , right on time youtube was getting kinda boring
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky
Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue my man virhtue ,u have to dissect pain really, cause there is. the weak tendo the one who fought kakashi and the one with concentrated chakra in him, pains were recovering slower thats why naruto easily one shoted them,yall analyst KZitemrs annoy me I am still waiting to hear why sakura is stronger than tsuna ,more experience?what training after when. she could not do shit vs pain,chakra pools haruno vs uzumaki senju?. intelligence u gotta make a video bro. hashiramaxs statement he saw tsuna lastly when she was like 17. Mental Amp from kaguya fight and damaging her she was unconcerned and told herself even if u split me u cant kill me hence the statement dont forget about me ,if she is stronger than tsuna its only by one tier and I think it's just Kcm level. why can sakura beat tsuna when she just got her 100markings healings than someone who is more experienced ,she takes one rod and heals and tsuna is cut in halve, please make a video and when will you be getting into boruto powerscaling,if sarada pulls up with a totsuka and yata and starts one shooting otsusukis does that make itachi god level threats?
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky bro is asking for everything and it’s nowhere close to Christmas.😭
@bearieroblox6451
Ай бұрын
I think people forget how powerful pain was, in naruto shippuden he’s probably the 4th strongest enemy. (1. Kaguya, 2. madara, 3. Jubito, then pain.) Stronger than obito (not jubito) but if it had been pain who had the 10 tails in him, he would have been much more dangerous. Because he had two rinnegan. If Naruto didn’t have sage mode and only kcm1 he probably would have lost to pain. I think people underestimate sage mode because Naruto got it before kcm 1, but there are specific moments where Naruto would have lost if it wasn’t for specifically sage mode. I’d say kcm 1 and sage mode are comparable but more or less useful than the other in different situations. The reason I think people forget how powerful pain was is because of when it happened in comparison to the war. But the biggest piece to remember is that jiraya went into the fight blind. If jiraya was in the same scenario as Naruto he more than likely would have killed pain with the frog genjutsu. The only reason he didn’t kill all of them when he fought them was because he didn’t know there was six of them. But if there was six all in the same place they would have all died to that genjutsu.
@MrBrianpdj
Ай бұрын
I totally agree. 1st, Nagato/Pain is outside his natural-strongest state (in the Tower in the Rain Village) where he closer to the Six corpses. 2nd, Pain casually INVADES Konoha (strongest Village in the Show). Runs the gauntlet, kills Kakashi, and top Jounin. 3rd, Nukes the ENTIRE Konoha Village lol - GG’s. After all this, Tendo’s resting and STILL BEATS a FULL CHAKRA SAGE MODE NARUTO with Summons and INTEL. Like … Nagato/Pain is top 5 Shippuden easily.
@GokuSolosFictionCope
Ай бұрын
wm obito whoops him
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
@@GokuSolosFictionCopeNah, he gets his chakra absorbed by the preda path.
@GokuSolosFictionCope
Ай бұрын
@@___________0Z0X Nah, he perception blitzes and one shots that fodder.
@obsidianquill7949
Ай бұрын
@@___________0Z0XWM obito bullies pain so badly 😂he can do everything they can while also having 2 extra different methods of jutsu negation and the speed to blitz all of them
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
Hiruzen has a good variety of jutsu its just that some of them will either get absorbed or countered
@Ignasimp
13 күн бұрын
Minato's mastery of flying rayjin would be a very broken hability against Pain.
@theformidablefrog1967
2 күн бұрын
Bro would just relocate every summoning like he did w the biju bombs then use a hand full of clones to blitz every other pain with a rasengan or just seal whoever the rasengan didn’t destroy low diff 😂
@manny9191
Ай бұрын
good vid im in agreement with the battles. But i will forever be an advocate for tobirama having tandem paperbomb whilst alive. its special paper bombs used in conjunction with the edo tensei, i mean we literally see him throw it. not only will he have it, but a clone can just kamakazi in. the mo is to catch people off guard so it was best used with edo tensei. but also it makes sense for chakra conservation to use edo rather than clones which eat more chakra. i know tobirama still wins but a tandem would 1 tap all 6.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
It’s just arbitrary in making the claim of him possessing an Edo tensei
@RanMaru144
Ай бұрын
@@Virhtueisn’t this like the same thing people do when they give orochimaru edos? Like we know he used the technique before hiruzen called it tobirama a specialty
@manny9191
Ай бұрын
@Virhtue yeah I hear it. Nothing against your video more of a general statement on my feelings towards it, it's common consensus in the community. Like how way back when tobirama was being put at kakuzu level and being slandered. I'm fighting for my boy tobi
@abillin6398
14 күн бұрын
@@manny9191😂 Hell nah. I dont know who put tobirama to the level of kakuzu😂. Tobirama clears the akatsuki if all put together (except itachi, obito and pain). He can still take the remaining 3 on a 1v1.
@Icezoot
8 күн бұрын
He did use tandem bombs whilst alive. Considering the fact that he said “this is the first time I’m using the jutsu on myself”. It implies he has used it before on others (and obviously lived). A direct quote from the fourth databook states “Upon ACTIVATION, due to the devastating (terribly violent) explosions, it is highly probable that the jutsu-caster will be caught in it. If a LIVE PERSON performs the technique, death is inevitable, for it is a blast technique that sacrifices one's life (body)”. So… why wouldn’t Tobirama just use a shadow clone to not get caught in the blast? Like he himself implied, he has clearly used the technique before.
@takatotakasui8307
Ай бұрын
I respect that you didn't waste our time with Boruto era Hokage lol
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I’d much rather put more effort in time to the closer fights rather than “here’s why Kakashi perception blitzes every path a million times over”
@crazy_acid77
13 күн бұрын
Awesome video bro, some of the best Naruto powerscaling analysis I've seen.
@3_NYC
14 сағат бұрын
Love how everyone's giving respect to our boi Pain. Brother was just hella cold.
@meltedhornet
3 күн бұрын
Hiruzen was holding back in the first half of the fight, fighting both his teachers and former student, then after being damaged and tired, got serious, quickly sealed both edos and barely over powered a fresh Orochimaru
@omoemufestus2568
2 күн бұрын
In the state of Jiraiya with no prior knowledge of pain, nobody can defeat him in that state.
@jeremyjamesgigante7898
17 күн бұрын
Only doubt for me is Tobirama. Not because he's weak, which is not, but I can't of a multi attack from his arsenal; unless he can compensate it with his less quick flying raijin.
@nocturne311
Ай бұрын
Video idea: Jiraiya, Minato and Naruto vs. Orochimaru, Itachi and Sasuke featuring different forms (including Edo Minato and Edo Itachi).
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Maybe, I have a video planned involving the Jiraiya Naruto duo
@zRedBxll
Ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO idea 💡 next up
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
You already know!
@paulozhan
18 күн бұрын
Naruto was basically toast until he got saved not by plot armor but by the magical remnants of Minato's Chakra that were triggered after being dormant for sixteen years to give him a nice pep talk, which ultimately helped Naruto get his senses back and beat Pain because he is definitely stronger than Pain at that moment in time.
@cattusstroffic1243
Ай бұрын
Tobirama drip low diffs
@lovelysix6296
2 күн бұрын
I still think it’s dumb that we got snake and toad sages but no slug sages. 😒
@Virhtue
Күн бұрын
Hashirama is most likely a slug Sage and the only other option would be another crature from Shikkotsu forest
@ttrizzyy3414
16 күн бұрын
Great vid
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
I'm wondering if you mean they don't have information on pain but I'm sure Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen have information about the rinnegan
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
They have knowledge of that, as did Jiraiya, they keep all the disadvantages and advantages he has
@qazdr6
Ай бұрын
Honestly I think if Jiraya was in Sage Naruto's position (full intel, starts in sage mode, Tendo on cool-down, toads pre-summoned, Aura Path targeting Tsunade etc.) I think he wins
@ryanmullen483
Ай бұрын
Legit just opens with frog song and dunks all 6 of them in a matter of minutes
@qazdr6
Ай бұрын
@@ryanmullen483 iirc Ma & Pa did try that when Naruto was summoned but the animal path blocked it with her summons, so maybe not quite that easy
@ryanmullen483
Ай бұрын
@qazdr6 hmmm I haven't watched the fight in a few years so I can't recall but you could be right. Either way they only knew to block it because pain found out the hard way that the frogs singing was a genjutsu the first time aroubs. So I still feel confident it would work given we have a precedent of it working on them
@mikeoxlong3676
28 күн бұрын
Pain himself said Jiraiya could have won if he knew their secret.
@lAdvnced
19 күн бұрын
It just depends on the circumstances. He has to off guard the Deva path or he just blatantly loses. Deva path~> SM Naruto> SM Jiraiya (raw power, speed, basic stats etc). Jiraiya really has to out hax the deva path because it’s shown that once Nagato stops using the six the deva path gets a boost and becomes=> the 6. The reason he uses the six is due to ability hax but in raw power the six don’t get near the Deva path at full power. Jiraiya stands a chance if he haxes the deva path but he still scales lower overall. It’s all debatable and what if.
@cattusstroffic1243
Ай бұрын
Hiruzen also got Big Nerf similar to p1 Kakashi and early Hokage Naruto. Who's been out of combat (for way longer than both?)
@alexrios6143
Ай бұрын
Non mental nerfed hiruzen is clapping pain even in old age. He took on orochimaru his pupil and his 2 undead sensei and held his own while being nerfed.
@nateisda1
29 күн бұрын
Pain can clap orochi too and back then his reanimation jutsu controlling the kages was weaker than kabuto’s
@wwekings9505
29 күн бұрын
I mean if u put pain vs that orchimaru, the out come would be the same imo
@alexrios6143
29 күн бұрын
@@nateisda1 pain isn’t taking on the 3 of them. Orochimaru also was nerfed against hiruzen. Him and the first 2 hokage are beating pain, even at a fraction of their original power. If it was nagato that’s different
@alexrios6143
29 күн бұрын
@@wwekings9505 I think even without having as good of versions of the 1st and 2nd them helping him without him also being mentally nerfed would be too much for pain.
@nateisda1
29 күн бұрын
@@alexrios6143 Bro cmon stop the cap. He freaking wanted Sasori to go kill him. Pain would certainly be able to defeat Orochimaru. Here's why: Pain's Strength: Pain controls six powerful bodies with unique abilities (the Six Paths of Pain). He can use a wide variety of jutsu, including the almighty push (Shinra Tensei), soul-ripping techniques, and summons. He can also control life and death, making him an overwhelming opponent for almost anyone. Orochimaru's Strength in Part 1: While Orochimaru is incredibly powerful and cunning, especially with his regenerative abilities, snake techniques, and forbidden jutsu, he doesn't have the same level of destructive power or versatility that Pain possesses. Additionally, by Part 1, Orochimaru has not yet achieved his strongest form, and even characters like Itachi can overwhelm him. Given this, Pain would defeat Orochimaru in Part 1 due to the sheer scale and diversity of his abilities.
@brxyn3937
Ай бұрын
6:04 This feat is under rated because the A-path is clearly composed of metal or has metallic components which conducts electricity. 😆
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
This is a good point
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
Or you can do a video on Jirayia (Imperfect Sage mode) vs Minato (Base) I Fell like this would be interesting.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I actually did a Minato vs every sannin member and it was too much of a stomp I didn’t post it
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
Ah yeah you're right I guess since he will tag everyone.
@elhood4060
Ай бұрын
Imagine glazing pain for almost 10 mins just for almost every hokage to stomp 😅
@RoundOfApplauseChannel
Ай бұрын
Only hashirama is besting Tendo Pain. Nagato is just too much
@elhood4060
Ай бұрын
@@RoundOfApplauseChannel then you must really be overrating pain even though his op at that point in time the other hokage are just godly, Minato is flexing on full kurama why pain can't take half, Tobirama stats is at kcm1.5 level which is way beyond pain. He was being too generous in the video, Minato, Tobirama and Hashirama takes it 10/10
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
His pain was not great enough.😂
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
The Hokage are just built different lol.
@RoundOfApplauseChannel
Ай бұрын
@@elhood4060 Naruto fans don't watch their own show 🤣😂
@c2dholla
Ай бұрын
Pain is underscaled because outside of pain no one displayed the rinnegan well outside of him. If obito, madara, sasuke displayed the rennigan to the extent that pain did people would scale pain SIGNIFICANTLY higher. But since the rennigan simply became a stat boost pain get underscaled. Imagine madara limbo clones using the rennigan casuallytaking peoples sould out. Or obito kamui while pulling u with rennigan. This shows how powerful pain was. Dude was so powerful kishimoto had to essentially retcon the rennigan to be a stat boost. This is confirmed with boruto how everyone has rennigan but no one can use a single path.
@bonzoluv
Ай бұрын
Predictions before watching. Hashirama, Kakashi, and Naruto slam no diff. Minato wins with some difficulty. Tobirama and Hiruzen probably take it high diff. And Tsunade loses.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
This would fit!
@Pablo-om8cj
Ай бұрын
Tobi and hiru get destroyed
@SecondCitySavior6969
Ай бұрын
I love Kakashi, but he didn't slam a 1v1 once in his lifetime, he's always in a fight as part of a team or someone else finishes the job for him because he didn't win 1v1. Naruto did beat him tho and Hashirama would humiliate Pain so no objection there.
@wwekings9505
29 күн бұрын
@@SecondCitySavior6969nah u cannot say war arc dms kakashi doesn’t just slam. When himself was able to blitz kaguya and surprise her
@kerkertrandov459
14 күн бұрын
Nah bro aint no1 watching 35 min vid, 10 min maybe 15, but i got shit to do
@Virhtue
14 күн бұрын
Everyone actually likes the longer videos
@Trent-moon
5 күн бұрын
@@Virhtuenot everyone
@aaronwells2267
3 сағат бұрын
@@Trent-moonthen don’t watch? Simple
@Trent-moon
2 сағат бұрын
@@aaronwells2267 I don't, I usually dislike and keep it moving.
@vincentleoni6334
26 күн бұрын
Pain is definitely above Itachi n obito. Rinnegan>any sharingan
@bryantavery7822
Ай бұрын
In theory the Sharingan can see Chakra an argument can be made that itachi knew pains secret... Kakashi should've in theory been able to see the Chakra transmitting as well.
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
But Kakashi didn’t, which disproves the theory.
@ItsThatKidGreg
Ай бұрын
All the big 3 ocular jutsu can see chakra in one way or another, but the only time we've seen anyone track transmitted chakra is with sage mode.
@vaughnjackson6297
Ай бұрын
It's the hero villian bias bro; deidara loses a hand no biggie while jiraya loses a hand its over😂
@odogg6899
Ай бұрын
@@vaughnjackson6297 facts
@15021951bb
16 күн бұрын
Tobirama is best sensory ninja, he would detect real target and just kill him
@tylerblackburn5716
Ай бұрын
Man I love your solo vids the most
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Thank you Man, means a lot❤️🔥
@juliusnovachrono4370
Ай бұрын
This is cool.
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dineshyadav-hi5sx
6 күн бұрын
This is so silly that people are saying Nagato was not trying to kill Naruto but capture him. However, he used all of his abilities but couldn't stop Naruto. Prople needs to realize that!!
@Trent-moon
5 күн бұрын
Did he not have Naruto looking like a pin cushion while slapping around Hinata? . Tell me why he couldn't put a rod in Naruto's head during this time?. Other than he needed him alive?
@dineshyadav-hi5sx
5 күн бұрын
@Trent-moon That was funny, LOL!! He supposed to capture him right then and there, but why didn't he do it is the question? Because he is dumb, rather waste time fighting an unworthy opponent like Hinata than capturing him!!
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
Yes, push the Payne agenda!
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
For sure!
@garryjones1776
Ай бұрын
Payne to the Max!
@cattusstroffic1243
Ай бұрын
Maybe the toad prophecy had something to do with minato Reaper's death seal decision?
@The_Kingdom_Citizen
24 күн бұрын
13:20 - before you completely hoe Tombirama like everyone does... Tobirama will quickly pick up on the fact that all of their lines of sight are linked... he would more than likely teleport them all away from each other using flying raiyjin then hit the summoning pain with infinite darkness and kill him... given that tobirama is a sensory ninja as well he would see what's going on with the chakra rods take them out reanimate him using him as a suicide bomber then use shadow clones to fight the other paths of pain fight over!
@The_Kingdom_Citizen
24 күн бұрын
I LOVE HOW YOU SAID EVERYTHING I SAID BEFORE I WATCHED IT... MY GUY!!!
@Virhtue
23 күн бұрын
Watch my newer Tobirama video, tons of respect on him there
@kevingbergiste7372
Ай бұрын
By “power” wouldn’t it mean that they thought he was the literal sage of six paths? The Jesus of the ninja world
@Noblesavage31
18 күн бұрын
Kind of funny how you wanted a great detail to kinda debunk the fear level of tobiramas usage of the exploding tags and being able to place them unnoticed😂😂
@Crowsbane4
Ай бұрын
Minato only ever saw a weakened Pain. So his comment about Obito being a bigger threat is not that telling.
@RA1JIN07
Ай бұрын
saw him outspeed sm naruto and fight 6 tails and obito has other methods above pain + u are arguing with narritive
@Crowsbane4
Ай бұрын
@@RA1JIN07 when did he see him do that
@TracySampy
12 күн бұрын
The Tobirama Glazing is insane 18:47 . Wdym he's more fatigued? He's an Edo. The profile pic did not lie
@Virhtue
12 күн бұрын
People say I downplay him, nah each Orochimaru Edo gets fatigued and sweat, it’s the Kabuto ones that don’t
@jerryellis2184
12 күн бұрын
Are we going to ignore the fact that pain biggest power was the element of surprise?
@MonkeyDPrimo
13 күн бұрын
Nah, Naruto data books are inconsistent.
@CategoryGaming-ko2qi
15 күн бұрын
Kishimoto should just do what marvel comics does. Rewrite the story with different outcomes over and over again.
@trustinv-a9021
14 күн бұрын
Bro was moaning at 5:00
@BlessonFranklin
Ай бұрын
yooo virthue, could you make a video about the admirals vs the hokage
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I’ve had it planned
@jim-boslice
Ай бұрын
Yoooo I remember suggesting this vid
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
If this was you, shoutout to you!
@jim-boslice
Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue I’ll have to check your other vid comments but I’m fairly sure I did. I saw the title pop up and I was like no way and started to watch immediately bro.
@RafaelCliper
25 күн бұрын
Only Hashirama and Naruto Hokage would have more chances of winning against Pain, any other kage would have higher chances of losing against Pain.
@BrucePennyworth
21 күн бұрын
True, but most of them still win with their abilities and stuff like Tobirama and Minato with the flying thunder god I'm not trying to start an argument
@AhOhITzXray
18 күн бұрын
Bro I’m 4 mins into this video and you’re being entirely too wordy…. You just explained that Pain is strong bc pain is strong bc he has strength and charisma, which makes him the leader bc of his strength and charisma, which explains his deviation in power bc he’s the leader bc of his power , so he the leader bc of his power and charisma there for he’s strong and the leader bc of his power and charisma…….. pls learn what the “kiss method” is and stick to it. If you need to ever repeat yourself to make a point then it’s not a good point to use.
@mouthpieceexotics-gx7uk
6 күн бұрын
Jaraiya’s form against Pain wasn’t because he was in a stronger form of Sage mode 😂😂😂 It was because he never mastered Sage Mode. Ma & Pa on his shoulders help with his chakra. That’s why you never see them on Naruto’s shoulders or Naruto ever have the frog like transformation.
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
You should do a video on Kcm1 Naruto vs Base Madara
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Maybe
@LuiopK
Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue Yes finally something thats fair enough
@Timid_pandem0nian
Ай бұрын
My takes: Hashirama : win (low diff) Tobirama : lost ( high diff) Hiruzen : lost (mid diff) Minato : win ( mid diff) Tsunade : lost ( negative diff) Kakashi : win ( mid diff)
@MrJAMESTAKER
Ай бұрын
Minato no diff
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I don’t hate this
@Timid_pandem0nian
Ай бұрын
@@Virhtue thanks 😉
@davidlinari4140
Ай бұрын
They should consider showing us prime Hiruzen and the prime of Sasuke’s dad and Kakashi’s dad. We need to see how strong they actually were and how they fought. Cuz for all we know they could’ve all been very close to tobirama maybe even above in their prime
@NonbinaryKeigan
Ай бұрын
Tsunade lowkey clears, the only relevant paths to her are the soul stealer one and deva. Other paths get one tapped as we’ve seen Sage Jiriaya kicks were capable to taking down paths, and full strength Tsunade can blow bodies apart and crack susanos. She is also capable of tanking any attack that’s not Chibuka Tensei or the soul rip.
@CategoryGaming-ko2qi
15 күн бұрын
One of the paths should have been a taijutsu path. Would have been dope.
@raycomandertony
18 күн бұрын
Nice video but half the video isn’t even about the fights/feats of pain vs opponent I get explaining power lvls but man I was like, thought this was a hokage vs pain video… still enjoyed it,
@CARlbeats-j3l
22 күн бұрын
people also forget the intel diadvantage from nagato being Jiraiya's student
@kayd6572
11 күн бұрын
Hi, you speak way too fast, chill down a bit :) Nonetheless, great video ! Have fun
@Virhtue
11 күн бұрын
Sorry about that, I do speak hella fast, I have tried to slow it down, peep my newer video and see
@The_Mosaique
Күн бұрын
Hokage Kakashi has no DMS so he gets clapped. Tsunade gets clapped without Pain using is hands. Sarutobi (old) loses. Prime Sarutobi is another story. Kid Minato’s newly created rasengan went toe to toe with a biju bomb so imagine prime. Plus the flying raijin would be a significant weakness to the rinengan. So Minato and Tobirama hardly win. Hashirama bends all the pains and clapped them hard
@toocoolgames5700
17 күн бұрын
Can you imagine a fight between pain and Minato? Both that were taught by the same teacher
@jasonbarry3301
Ай бұрын
The ones that he already killed lose, the ones he didn’t mop the floor with his face, and Tobirama does however you think he does because he’s so under represented that fanfic is as good as canon. Duh.
@danielvasilevv2672
14 күн бұрын
Minoto can win if only a base rasengan can actually do damage to any of Pains paths
@TheWizardDen
Ай бұрын
I subscribed. So pissed that Tobirama was killed the way he was. TERRIBLE writing by hashirama. In my eyes, Hashirama and minato win 10/10 times. Tobirama wins 9/10 times, Hiruzen wins maybe 5/10 times
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
Gotta love Tobirama
@jason15212
Ай бұрын
People like chiyo credit Orochimaru or think of him more so than tobirama in relation to Edo Tensai because she and anybody younger than her likely didn’t see or rarely saw him use it simply because of age.
@ElliotKeaton
Ай бұрын
Pain picked paths that countered Jiraiya's fighting style. Jiraiya primarily uses summons and a wide array of ninjutsu. Pain sent a path with broken summons and a path that absorbs chakra from ninjutsu.
@Virhtue
29 күн бұрын
This is true and most people don’t bring it up
@Jesse-df9fz
28 күн бұрын
Hashirama bodies no difficulty, Tobirama clears high difficulty. Sarutobi gets clapped, Minato clears low difficulty, Tsunade gets clapped, Kakashi clears, Naruto blinks and Pain disappears
@joaquinbodine1013
13 күн бұрын
With knowledge of his abilities they would all win expect for Tsunade and Kakashi imo
@Virhtue
13 күн бұрын
Kakashi stomps
@fernandotillman
Ай бұрын
Naruto’s chakra was still split evenly to all the clones collecting nature chakra so he was fighting nerfed.
@larrychristopher2833
Ай бұрын
Itachi is definitely not above Pain we seen that during the War
@hulkandsuperman
13 күн бұрын
The same war where he’s not in character, and no will to even want to fight, will being controlled? Yea……
@larrychristopher2833
13 күн бұрын
@@hulkandsuperman you mean the only time Itachi was 100% in character and was the first edo to release Kabutos jutsu and it took him Naruto and Bee to take out Nagato. Did we see the same war arc?
@hulkandsuperman
13 күн бұрын
@@larrychristopher2833 I think you missed my point. Why would you all use the war arc as a reference when it’s clear one side isn’t at their best?
@larrychristopher2833
13 күн бұрын
@@hulkandsuperman do you know the battle I’m referring to?
@DevynNichols
Ай бұрын
Vid idea- what if the 2nd never died against the silver and gold brothers
@minatouchiha9971
25 күн бұрын
I like long videos too i listen while working don't stress yourself though
@Virhtue
24 күн бұрын
Would you prefer the less edited longer videos?
@DS123-gb8tf
Ай бұрын
@24:00 that bringer of darkness genjutsu always seemed like a jutsu tobirama would use constantly against sharingan it’s weird that they would make hiashirama use it in the manga
@joshfromxbox
17 күн бұрын
Hiruzen fought orochimaru with reanimated hashirama and tobirama btw
@netronet7566
15 күн бұрын
hashirama fought against a buffed up madara with his own cells intact WITH the rinnegan and still won I know it's obivious that hashirama got it in the bag but just wanna say this so that any lingering ignorant souls doesn't know that fact.
@FolkBoyify
Күн бұрын
18:54 How could Tobirama be fatigued if he was an Edo tensei?
@historyking9984
25 күн бұрын
Enron wouldn’t have killed A. It might’ve cost him his leg but Sasuke would’ve been dead
@Virhtue
24 күн бұрын
Dawg it was a spike larger than his torso headed up his ahh
@Landoft
18 күн бұрын
Personally I think Hashirama could overpower pain, tobirama and hiruzen could use dealing jutsu on his six paths, and minato I think it’s a wrap bro
@jacobgallegos8762
18 күн бұрын
1,2,4,7th completed shit on pain 3rd loses as an old man prime 3rd wins 5th dies easily Kakashi idk apparently he’s stronger than he was during the war arc so he should win
@joeyallison5045
26 күн бұрын
Hiruzen can perform the FTG, it just takes a lot of his chakra. Those guys fought hard to defeat Obito, while Hiruzen was fighting even harder to protect the village's during that war. The FTG doesn't require a KKG, or KKT. It's just a jutsu that uses seals that reverse summons the person to where ever the tag is placed. It's a reverse summoning jutsu used with tags placed on Kunia. Also the person can reverse summons not by hitting the ground but by using one hand sign. Not sure how that was developed, because I know a summons requires multiple hand signs and hitting the ground. What would have been better than the Minato manga short we got. We should have voted for Tobirama. So we could see the development of the FTG, by the OG that crafted the jutsu. Because that rensengan shit was the lamest thing I've ever read in Naruto/Boruto. But I voted for Minato as well, so I'm as guilty as anybody else that voted. That was what we were all hoping for was the FTG, but instead we got a mushy love story about how the rensengan was developed.
@minatouchiha9971
25 күн бұрын
Hiruzen wins both times people forget pain's weakness is genjutsu..... jiraiya knows none ma & pa only knew 1 BuuuuuT Hiruzen knows plenty 😂❤
@voyeurtube7008
Ай бұрын
Minato wins 10/10 times. FTG plus sage mode is way too much for Pain, especially if Ma & Pa end up on Minato's shoulders. He has too many paths to victory
@knightpg3d162
Ай бұрын
Could you do a power scaling video on Fugaku Uchiha if you get the chance?
@nocturne311
Ай бұрын
In my opinion, Minato > Fugaku > Old Hiruzen. He’s definitely a Kage level shinobi and might have been able to stalemate Itachi during the Uchiha clan massacre, had he wanted to fight his son.
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
Minato and Fugaku are roughly equal in terms of strength and power its just that Minato has more versatility so Minato would beat him in a 1v1
@Virhtue
Ай бұрын
I mean to be honest there isn’t much to substantiate him anywhere, the best you get is similar to pre MS Itachi and Shisui
@___________0Z0X
Ай бұрын
@@TheAwsomeManny there’s no way to reasonably claim that he is anywhere near minato.
@TheAwsomeManny
Ай бұрын
@@___________0Z0X there’s no way to reasonably claim that he isn’t by your logic. All we got is that even Itachi wasn’t sure he could beat him even after unlocking his mangekyo and that was before he found out about fugaku’s mangekyo
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