Randy was an incredible person. So generous and kind. I loved him dearly as well as many others. Prayers for his family. He will be missed.
@sarahalbers5555
Жыл бұрын
So sorry for his loss, and prayers to for his family.
@ChosenWon
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to know this. My condolences.
@02markcal
Жыл бұрын
I just read that Randy, “built premier plastic surgery programs in Los Angeles and traveled the world caring for children with hard-to-treat deformities,” it sounds like Randy really helped a lot of people in his 72 years of life.
@SailingPennyLane
Жыл бұрын
❤
@tvividy
Жыл бұрын
@@02markcalwow, what a man. Prayers to the family.
@noahgrove2046
Жыл бұрын
Got to ride with Randy on a C-47 with him as the pilot. Absolutely incredible human being and a man who loved what he did. RIP sir.
@diaryofacrankykid7270
8 ай бұрын
Freaky to think that just 3 months after posting this video, the man, the legend himself would die in near identical circumstances. Rip. Richard McSpadden. "I’d like the memory of me to be a happy one. I’d like to leave an afterglow of smiles when life is done."
@toddb930
Жыл бұрын
When Richard's on deck, I'm all ears. Thank You for the good reminders of what to prepare for given these circumstances.
@sarahalbers5555
Жыл бұрын
I am not a pilot, but a former flight attendant. Richard is an amazing teacher and unbiased source of information. I always look forward to these posts and the comments from the community. Thanks to all!
@richardmcspadden9189
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@petemyers9428
Жыл бұрын
I was on the southern end of Santa Fe when the 310 went down, and saw the horrible black smoke. We have been having calculated 10,000+ density altitudes for weeks. It was HOT the morning of the accident. Santa Fe has been near all-time record heat this past week. Please be careful this summer. It is not worth the risk when it gets so hot at high altitude (6300ft field elevation).
@jmax8692
Ай бұрын
You’re calling the pilot stupid and acting like you’re being helpful. GFY
@christiangreen2070
11 ай бұрын
RIP Richard... you were a great pilot, and an even better man. Fly high.
@julienb5815
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I just had this video pop in my suggestions, I hadn't watched any other from him since the accident, and frankly it's still heartbreaking to watch...
@mitchellh5869
Жыл бұрын
Light twins: 1.5 times the power, 2x the cost and mechanical issues, 3x the skill required. The point made in the video about accepting a glide to landing off airport in some scenarios can't be forgotten. Break the mindset that a twin always makes it to a runway. So many pilots accept gliding into a field in a single engine airplane with open arms, only to suddenly chuck that mentality out the storm window the moment they get in an airplane with two props. If you know you're pushing the limits of SE performance (High, hot, and/or heavy!) for your airplane, consider that second engine your ticket to a better glide ratio, not a guarantee you'll make it back to pavement.
@jtc1964x
Жыл бұрын
well stated
@wintercame
Жыл бұрын
Wise words. the instinct seems to be save the plane rather than save yourself and it ends up doing neither.
@stevemadak6255
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I also think 2 bad choices were made by the pilot as well ; 1. "Im gonna gain altitude " and 2. Staying in the left turn- Did the suggestion by tower to go left to 33 stop him from making a long lazy right. Iunno, all monday morning QB. Rest in peace. Thoughts for the family
@pilotactor777
Жыл бұрын
Could he have landed on that road? Just interested?
@semiprofessional8470
Жыл бұрын
@@pilotactor777road landings can sometimes work out fine, other times it's rush hour.
@flyingmulerider7166
11 ай бұрын
Richard RIP - You will be missed by thousands of us.
@sethtenrec
9 ай бұрын
Who you talking to?
@AM-hs4bz
8 ай бұрын
@@sethtenrecthis man who presenting the show died recently in aircraft crash
@sethtenrec
8 ай бұрын
@@AM-hs4bz I know, plane piloted by former NFL player Russ Francis. They made a mistake. Or he made a mistake I guess. Oops! But the OP above, who is he talking to? As you point out, the guy is dead. Lame comment.
@andrewpomerantz4854
Жыл бұрын
The excellent commentary and analysis is very much appreciated. The outcome of this situation is truly terrible and tragic. Dr. Sherman was an ambassador to both the aviation and medical communities. Condolences to his family and may he RIP.
@jtc1964x
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding anaysis - as usual. You are so informative yet respectful I can't applaud you enough
@roderickcampbell2105
Жыл бұрын
These reports are wonderful. I hope they save lives.
@zakelwe
Жыл бұрын
@@roderickcampbell2105 Yes, I am sure they do, or help out and reduce the consequences. I hope more people subscribe who are pilots. I am not a pilot and have to say I would be worried now travelling in a light aircraft with someone after seeing a lot of these. Even when people do not make terrible decisions and are good pilots, who fly well, there seems a very fine line at times and the consequences dire if you happen to cross it slightly.
@sethtenrec
9 ай бұрын
@@zakelwe ironically so true in the case of this video
@sananselmospacescienceodys7308
Жыл бұрын
RIP Richard McSpadden. You were one of the greats.
@jjohnston94
Жыл бұрын
I live about 35 miles south of Santa Fe at a field elevation of 6500' and to the pilots around here, summer is for annuals. We've got something like 300 VFR days per year, so we're not missing out.
@kwittnebel
Жыл бұрын
This seems like an immediate take home lesson, even without any facts.
@jimmiller5600
2 ай бұрын
Up north we use Winter for annuals since ice is our problem.
@russhartley4964
Жыл бұрын
First off, condolences to the family. It does sound like he was a capable pilot as well as a surgeon, and there are four immediate takeaways or lessons learned to use today. First, know your density altitude and how to apply that to your s.e.l. Climb chart and if the number is too low for you, reduce the weight and/or leave at a cooler daylight time. Second, brief your departure and worst case emergency procedure to yourself before each departure (he had a nice clear area straight ahead. Third, know that emergency procedure (and practice it at recurrent training) by heart. You might not have time if you’re single pilot in a light twin to reference a checklist. But do use it when you get the “aviate” portion well under control. And fourth, RAISE THE DEAD engine that is. ALWAYS bank into the good engine. This pilot did not have quite yet the aviate portion in hand yet so there was really no need to talk to the tower, the controller was not going to help save the day and as a matter of fact contributed to the bad situation by saying he was cleared left turn back. I would not lhave been saying anything (except “oh shit” to myself) until I had the emergency under control. I loved that airplane, especially the turbo models as I flew 100s of hours flying freight in them at night, with only once having a partial engine failure, over a city.
@GregSr
Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the factors involved in this crash. I am not a pilot but I spent 4 years assigned to a KC-135 flight simulator as a maintenance tech in the USAF. Part of my job included daily pre-flighting the simulator to ensure all systems are operating correctly. Also, during simulated flights with actual crewmembers, my job was to observe the various training "missions" to detect any anomalies in the equipment that may need further attention. One of the most common simulated failures was having an outboard engine fail during rotation at takeoff. Too often, the pilot would step on the wrong rudder pedal to compensate for the severe differential thrust. Of course, that caused the simulator to simulate a loss of control and then simulate a crash. When that happened, the IP (instructor pilot) would become very angry with the crew. Whenever responding to an engine failure, over the years, I heard him say emphatically "step on the good engines" when referring to the rudder pedals and which rudder response is called for.
@edwardrichardson5567
2 ай бұрын
Dead Foot, Dead Engine
@Paul1958R
Жыл бұрын
Colonel McSpadden, Thank you for your analysis and professionalism. Paul (in MA)
@NW.Modern
Жыл бұрын
Great point about accepting your off airport landing rather than augering in at 100kts+ still trying to climb. Sad and discouraging to see any pilot go down like this, but particularly one with this breadth of time and experience.
@boneseyyl1060
Жыл бұрын
If you look at the area, the choice of an off site landing was as simple as looking down. He even had the option of a dirt road that was perpendicular with runway so he wouldn't even have required a turn and most likely could have gone gear down, particularly if he was having trouble raising them. Of course in that situation processing the information and making a decision is extremely difficult and time sensitive. I bet in flying those older aircraft, his natural instinct would be to preserve them in this type of a situation. Perhaps that kicked in here. But the fatal error of turning into the dead engine, seems like a massive oversight for someone with the vast experience he had.
@bastogne315
Жыл бұрын
He died doing what he loved.
@sethtenrec
9 ай бұрын
@@bastogne315 yeah, that helps 🙄
@trumpsmessage7777
Жыл бұрын
No one wants to ditch an aircraft away from a regular runway but sometimes it's your best option.
@srgordon26
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis. Too bad there wasn't a better outcome.
@CapFreddy
Жыл бұрын
As a light twin pilot my self, I can only hope that when (and if) I have a real engine failure my glider pilot instincts will keep me from trying to fly when the airplane is not. That’s the major survival factor in a light twin engine failure. Sometimes the operative engine will only fly you to the crash site.
@colinrasmussen9470
Жыл бұрын
You need better training.
@markg4459
Жыл бұрын
CapFreddy speaks wisdom and mirrors what we heard from the speaker. @@colinrasmussen9470 does not.
@AlanMydland-fq2vs
Жыл бұрын
blue line baby😂
@sethtenrec
9 ай бұрын
If only aircraft used quality engines like those made by Honda and Toyota.
@edadan
10 ай бұрын
My instructor told me the best thing to do if you lose an engine on a twin during takeoff is to pull both throttles back to idle and land straight ahead. Even though I never flew a twin, I never forgot him giving me that advice…this was around 1992.
@CompleteWalkaround
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Gold standard of accident analysis.
@AirSafetyInstitute
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kevinmurphy2739
Жыл бұрын
I love the way you describe the issue in hand Not all of us are rocket scientist.
@phantomraven5044
10 ай бұрын
Rip Richard, I will miss these videos hosted by you :(
@metaloper
Жыл бұрын
The quality content of this channel never ceases to amaze me.
@richardmcspadden9189
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. We are able to tap into a lot of depth and breadth at AOPA.
@deani2431
Жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine a better person than Richard to help us all learn from and avoid these tragedies. Thank-you.
@sethtenrec
9 ай бұрын
I think he taught us how to learn from and avoid these tragedies. Stay out of these light aircraft.
@TheJustinJ
5 ай бұрын
Fly the wing. Nothing else matters. Thrust is optional. Lift is not!
@IslandSimPilot
Жыл бұрын
“Put all the odds in your favor.” - Barry Schiff
@toma5153
Жыл бұрын
A great clear and concise presentation. Thanks.
@dks13827
Жыл бұрын
As I review this................. he should fly straight ahead as long as need be to get altitude..... then he would be fine.
@linanicolia1363
Жыл бұрын
yeah. You could lose both engines and land straight down, hoping to miss any house or anything in the way. You may total the plane, but walk away.....
@wintercame
Жыл бұрын
@@linanicolia1363 In this case there was land clear of obstacles straight ahead. With the left turn he plowed into a trailer home.
@romandecaesar4782
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for pointing out that sometimes the best option in this situation is to feather both engines and prepare the aircraft for an off-field landing such as on a road or highway.
@flybouy11
Жыл бұрын
Fly the airplane first, talking is not first
@webcucciolo
Жыл бұрын
As I commented under Blancolirio's video: "6400 maximum, then down to 6100, so the airport actually seems to sit higher than immediately surrounding terrain. Even if he feathered correctly, it's obvious that he was never gaining altitude, which was his plan (as per audio). I wonder if, after noticing that he wasn't gaining altitude, he tried to go for the highway. When I fly single engine I tend to always look for suitable field to land, while when I fly the Seminole (counter-rotating prop, so no critical engine) I tend to focus more on Vmc and proper procedure. But we need to remember that even in a twin, we need to look for suitable landing area in case of engine failure. Two months ago at KLAF (low altitude, 600ft) on simulated engine failure I could barely climb while keeping slightly above Vmc, even after simulating feathering 😮"
@Saml01
Жыл бұрын
Good point! Every pilot should look at the Google map around their home field to find suitable landing spots or taking it a step further and using the measurement tool. You'd be surprised what looks big enough but is not.
@igclapp
7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why you were trying to climb just above Vmc. Fly blue line (Vyse) for best single engine climb rate. You should never be below blue line except on short final when landing is assured. Note however that Vyse may be slightly lower than what is marked on the airspeed indicator when flying at low weights or high density altitudes.
@shenandoahhills7263
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. With such a failure merely flying the aircraft can absorb much of your brain power. Having to take one's hand off the controls to run through the engine failure sequence can be very demanding when you can hardly keep the aircraft under control. With the high D/A everything on the s/e checklist must be correctly and expeditiously completed or the aircraft simply will not perform. This is where recent/recurrent single engine failure proficiency is so important.
@jaydibernardo4320
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the pilot turned too soon before sorting out his plane. That checklist is rather daunting as well. Pilot was one busy person trying to handle everything. Got me. My condolences to his family. Wish this would've turned out better.
@redb.3885
11 ай бұрын
So sad to see this😢
@dougfortnam9104
Жыл бұрын
Richard, Thanks for the early analysis on these accidents realizing that everything is not known about the accident, but there are definitely lessons that can be learned while the accident is fresh in our minds.
@jonathanantoun1367
Жыл бұрын
I love these analyses. I am not even a flight attendant. I believe these are great informative videos for any pilots to learn from.
@NeonsStyleHD
Жыл бұрын
I tried this in the same plane in Microsoft Flight Simulator in the same conditions. I couldn't get a climb rate out of it on one engine at that density altitude, and I also crashed. More specifically, I failed the right engine just after take off. The plane struggled to stay level, in fact I couldn't maintain level flight. I rotated at 90 knots, and was about 100 feet above ground when the engine failed, and it just rolled right and crashed. I feel for this fellow. What bitch of a situation to find yourself. :(
@wilsont1010
11 ай бұрын
Does it mean that you should rotate at higher airspeed to cater to the environmental conditions?
@capnhawk51
Жыл бұрын
I had a left engine failure right after take-off in a tired, old Piper Apache. Fortunately, being a short field, the gear was already retracted. It was a thrill a minute getting back to my home field, as that Apache would not climb over 900 feet MSL. What it did prove was that I was a better pilot than I thought.
@bombsaway6340
Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. This pilot seemed exceptionally well qualified and capable of dealing with this emergency. Hopefully the NTSB can sort this out and we can learn from this tragedy.
@greggpedder
Жыл бұрын
Clearly not or he would still be alive. 🤔
@MarkJoseph81
Жыл бұрын
@greggpedder That's not necessarily true.
@bombsaway6340
Жыл бұрын
@@greggpedder Even great pilots make mistakes or find themselves in no win scenarios.
@Bren39
Жыл бұрын
@@bombsaway6340well then you're not great right? But I know that it's very hot out there these days and the plane wasn't climbing and he was over hostile terrain... It's always better to crash land into ground as opposed to stalling in the air. Also if it was a left engine out, turning left was a mistake.
@flyingphobiahelp
Жыл бұрын
Mother Nature is very unforgiving and doesn’t give two hoots as to experience or type ratings. Respect her!!
@martianvideo
11 ай бұрын
RIP Spad! 😪
@andik2329
Жыл бұрын
That pilot seemed to be very qualified to fly this Cessna. He sounded very calm when reporting his engine failure to tower. We are not sure which engine failed at this point but the tower cleared him for a left turn. I learned that you never want to turn towards the dead engine. The tower, in my opinion, should just have said "cleared to land any runway". Aviate, navigate, communicate. I know the tower wants to help but they should understand that the pilot in distress runs the show. If the pilot needs anything from tower he will call. Keep communication to the absolute minimum and let the pilot fly. He is pretty busy.
@F1fan007
Жыл бұрын
The tower first cleared him to turn left and then cleared him for any runway of his choosing. He probably should have declared an emergency, ignored the tower and flown straight until he gained some altitude and had things cleaned up before turning and communicating further. And make sure he turned into the good engine. I 100% agree about all the talking, especially single pilot at age 72
@greenkwaka
Жыл бұрын
great breakdown, and 100% agree with your final thought.
@Thechist781
3 ай бұрын
Those light twins is the kind of plane I wouldn’t ever want to have an engine failure on takeoff. That’s nearly a death sentence 😮
@wildgoose419
Жыл бұрын
"Don't fight it...accept it... deal with the best option you have available." That's a simple and yet wonderful piece of advice, and so logical. I think Richard McSpadden might be a Vulcan.
@tomrohan8480
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the indepth analysis Sir.. lesson learnt is on an engine failure just on lift off.. - counter the yaw - wings level - landing gears in - feather the inoperative engine - maintain single engine climb out speed - gain safe alt And then look for landing options Thankyou Sir
@motorTranz
Жыл бұрын
May God comfort his family. My sincerest condolences. Thank you for your analysis.
@stevemadak6255
Жыл бұрын
Its crazy how hot and dry it gets every summer here in New Mexico. Lots of the state has high altitude. This was in the 'cool' morning. I Fly RC jets. Electric ducted fans. Planes that will fly out of your hand @ sea level (easily hand launched) will take a full throttle run on a 300' runway to take off. Its amazing how much MMPH you lose with thin dry air.
@stevek8829
Жыл бұрын
Dry isn't a density problem, humid is. High, hot, humid.
@octopusonmyback
Жыл бұрын
Richard is one of the most clear and logical speakers I've ever heard. Keep up the excellent work.
@octopusonmyback
Жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: (1) be prepared when flying in high density altitude, and (2) in an engine out situation even at low altitude, where a second engine can provide sufficient climb performance for the situation, be prepared to fight back the instinct to turn toward the quickest landing pattern, particularly if that turn leans to the off engine, and concentrate first on gaining altitude to run the checklist(s) and perform a single engine landing. What is surprising is that the last words of the pilot seem to indicate he understood this and was focussed on gaining altitude. I suspect something else happened after he started to attempt to gain altitude. One possibillity is that the wrong engine was turned off.
@richardmcspadden9189
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comments.
@EnricoPalatzo
Жыл бұрын
Fly the plane. Airspeed airspeed airspeed. Then consider landing. Sounds like he focused on getting back to the airport. My condolences 💐.
@linanicolia1363
Жыл бұрын
Lucky there was no one in that trailer. His estate would have ended up, dry as a bone The fancy house ? his wife may have to sell it.
@tccarter7369
Жыл бұрын
@linanicolia1363 what a statement. Geeez
@kwittnebel
Жыл бұрын
@@linanicolia1363His wife died of cancer two years ago. But you do you.
@Luftpirat89
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding analysis. And really sorry for the loss. Blue skies ✈️
@revampmobilesolutions8851
Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, may he fly with angels now 😢
@crochelt
Жыл бұрын
Pilot was a brilliant surgeon. He will be missed by many
@02markcal
Жыл бұрын
I just read that Randy, “built premier plastic surgery programs in Los Angeles and traveled the world caring for children with hard-to-treat deformities,” it sounds like Randy really helped a lot of people in his 72 years of life.
@crochelt
Жыл бұрын
@@02markcal He was a friend of a friend. Apparently extroadinary man. Too bad. Only good thing was the house was apparently empty.
@sibtainbukhari5447
6 ай бұрын
Miss your videos Richard . Fly high
@plasmaburndeath
Жыл бұрын
I do wish less ATC conversations sounded like fast food drive through quality. RIP
@crazy4gta1
Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that actual transmissions are in good quality. When a recording gets posted online it tends to loose a lot of quality
@bobteter4300
Жыл бұрын
Good video, but please recheck the comment (7:28) that the SE climb performance is based on wings level climb. Normally the climb performance is based on climbing with a five degree bank into the good engine which reduces the sideslip and drag. Great comment on accepting what you have got if you are not climbing. If it happens before the gear is up, think as a friend said "well I just sold the aircraft to the insurance company" power off both sides and go for the straight ahead off field landing.
@jemez_mtn
Жыл бұрын
For those saying he should have turned right into the good engine, he would have been turning into higher terrain. His ADS-B data shows he could not climb more than about 100' agl, so this would have been a bad option as well. With no climb performance, either due to density altitude or not having the time/wherewithal to secure the dead engine, landing straight ahead was the only 'good' option he had.
@scottw5315
Жыл бұрын
Do we know what engine failed?
@jemez_mtn
Жыл бұрын
@@scottw5315 I haven't seen anything confirmed, but all signs seem to point to the left. Regardless, turning right was not a good option in any case.
@jerrymarbury9365
Жыл бұрын
I don't fly planes but have watched scores of these uploads.It seems that many crashes of twin engine planes occur when the pilot tries to return to the airport with a quick U turn.I understand the get back on the ground as soon as possible but often it leads to disaster.
@JLFerguson
Жыл бұрын
These early analysis videos are great but what happened to the full length videos? I miss them. They were awesome.
@AirSafetyInstitute
Жыл бұрын
More Accident Case Studies coming soon.
@mickcollins1921
Жыл бұрын
@@AirSafetyInstitute I was wondering the same thing. Good to hear.
@rogerwilcoshirley2270
Жыл бұрын
Very important case for us light twin pilots. Gave me new perspective on temperature related airfield DA WRT preflight preparation/considerations. One thing of importance is advising which engine failed b/c normally one would want to keep (gentle shallow) turns to the side of the good engine. If he had a left engine failure he would want to avoid left turns and needed to immediately advise tower. Another reason to keep the engines in good shape so a remaining engine can indeed provide max or near max power. Furthermore consideration must be given to mixture settings for max power , full forward is great for cooling but may not provide max power esp at high DA. It was moot but esp at a larger airport he should also have immediately declared an emergency so ATC could put the commercial jets out of the way on a hold or such. Addendum: did his engine actually quit or seize or did the turbocharger fail causing big MAP splits? TC failure esp at high DA may result in significant performance decrement on that side but usually would not require shutting that engine down and feathering, just ignore the split MAPs till back safely on the runway.
@buddfoxx5955
Жыл бұрын
ATC gave him the directive to turn left on a left engine failure. The directive should have never happened and the pilot should have never performed a left turn on a left engine failure. End of story.
@craignajjar1671
Жыл бұрын
This video is excellent! Thank you for the lesson!
@stephenskierski5633
Жыл бұрын
Single engine max altitude is about 7500 not 17500, the density altitude was higher than the single engine service ceiling.
@jimw1615
Жыл бұрын
Cessna T 310 R, II turbocharged - Performance Data Horsepower: 285 Gross Weight: 5500 lbs Top Speed: 237 kts Empty Weight: 3723 lbs Cruise Speed: 223 kts Fuel Capacity: 102 gal Stall Speed (dirty): 70 kts Range: 517 nm Takeoff Landing Ground Roll: 1306 ft Ground Roll 640 ft Over 50 ft obstacle: 1662 ft Over 50 ft obstacle: 1790 ft Rate Of Climb: 1700 fpm Rate of Climb (One Engine): 390 fpm Ceiling: 27400 ft Ceiling (One Engine): 17200 ft
@jimw1615
Жыл бұрын
Cessna T310R II Performance Specifications Horsepower: 2 x 285 HP Best Cruise Speed: 223 KIAS Best Range (i): 517 NM Fuel Burn @ 75%: 27.2 GPH Stall Speed: 70 KIAS Rate of climb: 1,700 FPM Rate of climb (1 engine out): 390 FPM Ceiling: 27,400 FT Ceiling (1 engine out): 17,200 FT
@johningram9081
Жыл бұрын
I disagree please check the specs again.
@cieloaltoa3405
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and great video as always ! 👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@hivoltagedriver
Жыл бұрын
Working on my multi-engine add-on now. I can attest to how much more difficult a light twin is to fly on a single engine.
@jafar6785
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insights.
@Shepco123
Жыл бұрын
Raise the dead (engine) when turning.
@GodzillaSpeaks
Жыл бұрын
Looking at the ADS-B returns there was about 1 minute between the airplane climbing with increasing airspeed, then leveling off and decaying airspeed, then impact. That's not a lot of time to recognize the failure, identify the engine, and go through the memory items. Even flying alone in high DA situations it is a good idea to brief yourself about engine failure after TO in a light twin; e.g. below 500' AGL we land straight ahead, between 500 - 1,000 AGL identify, verify, feather and return to the airport, above 1,000 AGL, etc.
@greathornedowl3644
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informational video. Great reminders for all pilots
@TheJustinJ
5 ай бұрын
Before engine start: Determine engine-out landing options on runway heading for emergencies below 400'. And obtain all information of every field or road longer than 1000' within 30degreea of runway heading, within 3 miles of the airport. Do not plan the impossible turn below traffic pattern altitude. Get to that altitude, or else land straight ahead.
@NeonsStyleHD
Жыл бұрын
So sad, but you can see the difficulty he had since the Airport (KFAF)'s surveyed elevation is 6348 feet MSL. All the surrounding terrain is 6500 and above in the immediate area of the airport (according to the approach plate for Runway 20). Yet his departure altitude was at most 6050 feet MSL. Something is wrong with his altitude figures as he's lower than the terrain he's flying over. Very sad. Approach plate can be viewed on Skyvector.
@jeffhiner
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the ADS-B data is output pressure normalized to 29.92? Barometric pressure was 30.27 which would be about a 350 foot difference, which lines up with the data.
@toldt
Жыл бұрын
Please stop the weatherman presentations and go back to the old format/graphics.
@bwalker4194
Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that if his engines were turbocharged and not turbo-normalized like I think they were, he probably had another 60 short-term horsepower available on the good engine by overboosting it a bit. Pilots of these planes quickly become religious about avoiding overboost due to the $140K hit to the wallet but there is a decent safety margin for short periods of time. It would almost have to be included in the verbal or non-verbal before takeoff checklist to get burned into one’s brain:”I will sacrifice the good engine to gain altitude if the need arises”. If it pops also, the only choice becomes gear up, flaps down, pick a spot and take what you can get but with no blue line speed to worry about.
@effortaward
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson.
@TheAussiePipe
Жыл бұрын
That single engine climb rate to single engine ceiling assumes a new aircraft and airframe. A lot of these old twins will get no where near “book” even if the pilot handles the engine failure perfectly. That kind of density altitude in an aging 310 is a no go, simple as that.
@bills6093
Жыл бұрын
Single engine climb is 390fpm and ceiling is 17,200 feet, so plenty of leeway for an aged turbocharged 310.
@TheAussiePipe
Жыл бұрын
@@bills6093 390ft/min at SL in a new aircraft. Different story at 9000ft density altitude in an aging airframe even with a turbocharged engine.
@bills6093
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAussiePipe Blancolirio calculated 50 fpm for the standard 310, so the turbo version should do considerably better.
@TheAussiePipe
Жыл бұрын
@@bills6093so we have now gone from 390ft/min to "considerably better"? You are still failing to understand it's not just about the horsepower available from the remaining engine. There are the aerodynamic factors to take into account operating the aircraft at 9000ft DA and the book numbers you are quoting are for a new aircraft and airframe flown by a Cessna test pilot.
@bills6093
Жыл бұрын
@@TheAussiePipe I'm a big Blancolirio fan and his explanations of density altitude are very good. This plane should have had little trouble climbing and maintaining altitude, given the conditions. Why it did not, is almost certainly pilot error. I've seen no one do the calculations for the T310R. Everyone wants to do them for the naturally aspirated 310, apparently unaware that this was turbocharged. All we have is the sea level specs to judge from. So when someone does the actual calculations for this plane, on this takeoff, then we'll have the correct numbers.
@Maniac742
Жыл бұрын
This is my home airfield. I'm not multi-rated, but from what I understand, the first thing you do when you have an engine failure is get clean. Get above clean stall speed, get the gear up, get the flaps up, and get to best single engine climb speed. Then you can start to unfuck things. Turning is not going to help your situation if your aircraft isn't clean and well past VMC. Not sure if ATC giving the man a turn was a factor in the crash, but it certainly doesn't help adding more work to an already over-saturated work load.
@pjstew
Жыл бұрын
Will be of interest to find out what state the props were in- whether the correct one, or if any, were in feather or not. Even so, turns on one engine are very demanding in terms of aircraft performance, as this video mentions.
@linanicolia1363
Жыл бұрын
these turns are discouraged, especially in low altitude.
@kennethraysealsphotography3513
Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! Thanks.
@SkylineBaronPilot
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Always appreciated. Great reminder for sure.
@AirSafetyInstitute
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@c.j.1089
Жыл бұрын
"well at least I'm alive" is never a disappointing statement when looking at a destroyed plane.
@justinsalaskanadventures
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@jimmiller5600
Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. Thank you.
@frecuenciasvariables543
9 ай бұрын
The Cessna T310R has a single engine climb rate of 390 ft/min (fully loaded). It’s crucial to identify the dead engine, full power on the good engine, feather in this case the port engine fly into the good engine with 5 degree angle. Assuming gear and flaps were up there is no reason not to make it back to the airport safely. In an emergency disregard ATC suggestions such as a left turn into the dead engine, pilot in command means doing whatever is necessary for the safety of the flight
@johnfitzpatrick2469
Жыл бұрын
I'd be saying my Hail Mary's to the altimeter, looking for a rate of climb. (After all clean and re-start) Thank you sir. 🌏🇭🇲
@wallywally8282
Жыл бұрын
I watch all the usual channels that cover A/C accidents and yours is the best👍
@richardmcspadden9189
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DC-338
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. A tragic accident and a loss to both his family and community. As for causes, Is it possible that under pressure and due to the high density altitude that the first reaction to the failure would be to push the mixture up to full rich instead of leaving it set for best power at that altitude? Mixture is the first item on the checklist and says “as required for flight altitude” however it is very easy to do when most of your training and home base is at sea level that with a failure the ingrained first reaction in memory is mixture full rich as that results in max power at sea level. Full rich in this case would cause a loss of performance due to the altitude. Also with his significant experience is more complex types that have auto rich functions some reversion may have been a factor. Any which way it is easy to judge when not in the seat. I look forward to the report and the lessons from the video particularly about accepting on off field landing if there is a lack of performance is pertinent. On old and wise instructor once told me that in light twin the second engine will carry you to the scene of the accident.
@kennethraysealsphotography3513
Жыл бұрын
There is a river valley off to the right. I would have headed for that until a safe altitude could be attained.
@kevinallen1699
Жыл бұрын
Messed up on both sides.... Turn left into your dead engine. ( ATC)... I'll turn left into my dead engine. ( Pilot )
@roygilson7074
8 ай бұрын
good information sir, thansk for you time
@walterthorne4819
Жыл бұрын
Forget the turn back..continue straight ahead or land in the desert.
@themancalledx1342
3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Richard.
@wayneschenk5512
Жыл бұрын
Great advice.
@davidbaldwin1591
Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in how much PIC time this pilot had in the warbirds, especially the multis. I would imagine the warbird multi PIC's would always have engine out procedure down pat.
@FFLADR
Жыл бұрын
Another superb and thorough accident analysis report, creating an important teachable moment and important reminders for us pilots.
@richardmcspadden9189
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That’s our goal with these.
@richc47us
Жыл бұрын
N5251C reg is a 310R... when on single engine it has a service ceiling of 7400ft. Density altitudes in Santa Fe in hot temps were well over the single engine service ceiling for this aircraft.
@Hedgeflexlfz
Жыл бұрын
This was a turbo 310, idiot. Cessna T310R II Owner/operator: Private Registration: N5251C MSN: 310R1526 T for Turbo
@srcarranza
Жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry for the pilot and his family.
@lazman111
Жыл бұрын
700 hours in a Cessna 340 pressurized I can tell you the comment he made about density altitude that you have to live it to really understand it. He’s not kidding. The mantra that I was trained with was land straightahead land, straightahead land straightahead. So the only thing with this particular accident is did he simply run out of options and wasn’t ready to commit to an off airport landing.? So sad…
@crochelt
Жыл бұрын
RIP.
@av8tore71
Жыл бұрын
With only 203 hours flying the CE-310 PIC I've done a lot of single engine work and have noticed sometimes that rocking/yawing sensation tendency at times more that usual especially when the plane is dirty ie flaps out, gear down, slow airspeed. I also have type ratings in the DC-3, B-17, with the special in the P-51 & P-47. so flying single engine in the 310 if you do it right will treat you just like having both so it'll be interesting to see what the NTSB report says next year or so. Sad day RIP Dr. Sherman
@mikemicksun6469
Жыл бұрын
ATC should have never told him to turn left into the bad engine. Second he had nothing but desert in front of him to land on. He should have told ATC negative on left turn. His skills were not what they’re should have been because he was not prepared.
@csolivais1979
Жыл бұрын
How do you know which engine failed? I haven't seen any news reports saying which one failed.
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