Hey so - I read through all the comments (and have played the game way more since release) and I agree with some of the points made. I think the biggest change I would make is to Leona. I based her off of her 13/14 iteration. Not only is her execution harder in this game (run up instant overhead v-slash is waay harder), she also can't rely on earring as much in neutral so she has to mix up her options more. She also has some of the hardest swag combos in the game.. So I'd probably move her to medium or hard. There's some characters I'd prob move up or down but not as drastically (I'd move Chris up for example, gameplan is quite easy, j.cd 2b 2b 214a.. cancel into super if it hits lol, move ramon up since he isn't as hard as angel, etc.) But I stand by most of the list Another thing I'd like to say is that I probably shouldn't have named the tier "super easy". KOF can be challenging to learn, so please think of these ratings relative to the rest of the cast, and don't get discouraged when you can't pick up a character right away. even for experienced players, it can take a good amount of time to pick up a new character, just keep at it and you'll see the improvement. 😀
@shai310
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making it man, kinda sucks Leona isn't easy as I expected but I think this list will really help a lot of newer players (such as myself) know what more or less to expect when they pick up a character. As of right now I'm still trying to find a character that'll fit me since I'm new but it's still nice to have content creators like you and Rooflemonger who help lower the stress of getting into KOF 15. Keep up the good work man.
@mr.freeman5162
7 ай бұрын
Great. I'm sitting trying to master Leona and I'm thinking, "where is THIS simple character?" As it turned out, I was not mistaken that it is difficult
@ocoro174
4 ай бұрын
redo the list 😠
@ZetsubouGintama
2 жыл бұрын
Yashiro's game plan is unga bunnga and gorilla people to death. Angel is like Tekken character fighting in 2D. Her fanservice is a motivation dor people to main her.
@TheCajanator
2 жыл бұрын
I like that you focused on gameplan more than execution difficulty for the most part. While, granted, there are very execution heavy characters that might be an exception, I can single player grind execution. Actually knowing what im aiming to do in a match and not just hyper hop forward with every character is more where difficulty lies imo.
@mr.freeman5162
7 ай бұрын
And what the hell is the point, the video is called "simple characters". I understand King's presence there, but how did Leona get into it? Maybe, yes, it's easier to play it in general, but here they kind of push you to do combos. On the same Leone or Yaori, it's not easy at all. For what reason it makes sense for me to take a character if I can't press his buttons properly and fast?
@elbandito2990
2 жыл бұрын
Weird list but I can see where you coming from. Hard disagree with the Leona part. The "just throw earing bomb and run in" is just gonna get newer players murdered. Shit is way to slow to compare to an 11f Pin unless its ex.
@bloody4558
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, good thing he said that was more of a hot take. Leona is waaaaay harder than he is giving her credit for
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree with your take on Leona now that the game has been out a bit. I think she is a lot harder execution and gameplay wise compared to 14, which is what I based a lot of this list on. I’d prob put her in medium now
@elbandito2990
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone medium is probably where she belongs. She gets really easy max mode confirms from her far C and D. Biggest hurdles for newbies is learning her instant overhead and moonslash into super.
@tecnology893
2 жыл бұрын
@@elbandito2990 show me a game of yours in a tournament in a top 8 to support your opinion otherwise... your list is nothing. you are just an online warrior youtuber. for that reason your number of likes are very few. 
@elbandito2990
2 жыл бұрын
@@tecnology893 Dont need tournament results to understand a game. Show me yours? No? Alright then stop acting high and mighty. Diaphone has not won a KoF XV tournament so are you gonna tell him he doesnt know what he is talking about? You are probably just mad that Leona frees you up so you think she is OP. And im not even a youtuber dummy.
@Lanzetsu
2 жыл бұрын
As someone maining Chizuru I agree, he has not a lot of "good" options, and people mashing will usually hit the Clone and hit you or you will miss the clone timing for making it hit and will move past the enemy without results, you can try to mix someone but people mashing will be blessed and kill you anyways because the damage to the clone is ate by Chizuru. The execution for some of their combos are not really super user but at least bot command moves link from strong normals (if she is close). Still I love the way she play and the mirror move can reflect even super projectiles (which is huge and the reason I love playing her vs spammers). She isn't a super common character so that is maybe good if people feel afraid of her because don't know how to approach the match but that also means there isn't a lot of info about her to learn the character at a really deep level since you will only find combos most of the time and nothing else.
@Neogears1312
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly chizuru’s big issue is 4 big nerfs from older games all at once. Her clone super is way shorter, her clones don’t track with their attacks, they’re slower, and the screen scrolls when she sends herself and doesn’t when she sends a clone (the screen used to always lock even at mid screen regardless of the move she did specifically to confuse you more). Some of these nerfs sure are fine. But all of them at once really take out any edge this character really had.
@paz8723
2 жыл бұрын
Waiting on that PC release this waits too long lmao
@maelis9573
2 жыл бұрын
no one cares
@shadowofthenorthstar989
2 жыл бұрын
@@maelis9573 damn why u gotta do him like that
@Petronixman
2 жыл бұрын
@@maelis9573 me cares
@JazzBoiiFGC
2 жыл бұрын
feel u bro, u can already predownload the game on Steam btw!
@paz8723
2 жыл бұрын
@@maelis9573 Go back to LA fake goober
@jimbaj5814
2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. I’m glad you got into RB Kumite really opened me up to you existing. Love to see you doing kof stuff too.
@jotaro4324
2 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize the tree characters you picked for your team are the hardest characters to play
@demidevilqueen
2 жыл бұрын
I wanna play Angel so bad, but also her movelist is as "wtf" as possible. lol
@jotaro4324
2 жыл бұрын
@@demidevilqueen lol
@forestsavior
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with almost all of these. Excellent summaries and not too judgmental. Very helpful. As a Mai main I definitely agree she's Super Easy, lol. She does less damage than other characters with the same gameplan e.g. King, but her buttons just function/win so well in the situations you'd use them for that her relatively low reward is a pretty minor weakness. You take more hits to kill people, but it doesn't really matter because it's so hard to challenge her neutral. She can expand a lot if you can confirm j.CD counter hits in the corner, but the same could also be said of Liz, who does CHUNKS more for the same starter and resources. (Probably King as well but I'm still learning her new corner routes.) I get what you're saying about Leona, but I always feel guilty not being able to consistently do instant overhead > V-Slasher with her. I agree her basic gameplan's not that hard, but I feel like I'm missing a lot of the character's potential not being able to make them flip a coin for their life every time her bar lights up in vertical hop j.D range.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Yea Leona they made harder than 14 (didn’t realize at the time), so I’d move her down
@tecnology893
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone show me a game of yours in a tournament in a top 8 to support your opinion otherwise... your list is nothing. you are just an online warrior youtuber. for that reason your number of likes are very few. 
@gyytgy3330
2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a best position list from you later great video
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm… I think the meta will need time to develop for awhile for a vid like that
@chefvideogame
2 жыл бұрын
I might be alone on this one, but I feel like both Angel and Chizuru share the hardest characters spot in 15 cause they both have to do with timing. With Angel, it's mainly during blockstrings cause you're trying to mix up the opponent all the time. Combowise, not the hardest thing in the world once you have the right rhythm down. With Chizuru, it's knowing when to stop the clones because she's also a mixup character. Combowise, I may just have bad execution but trying to stop the ex clones mid combo is hard to do.
@absoul112
2 жыл бұрын
I think rushdown in KOF is relatively easier than in other fighters. Maybe the options are overwhelming, but they make it easier to get around zoning.
@MILDMONSTER1234
10 ай бұрын
It’s hard to do Rushdown in kof cause everyone has Rushdown options, so you have to keep outdoing the opponent in that regard lol
@jimdino77
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for basing ur list on the neutral… too many people emphasis combos when they talk difficulty
@chronocrosser
2 жыл бұрын
Ramon is actually very easy in terms of execution. The real challenge with him is dealing with his total lack of defensive tools. He doesn't have a decent anti-air normal besides the standard jab, and even his supers aren't particularly effective at stopping hop/jump pressure. Shatter Strike may help him massively, though. I don't think Ramon belongs on the same tier as Angel. He's just a standard grappler with rekkas and a backwards run, and a simple special move that returns him to neutral quickly.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I think I agree, just felt lonely having angel by herself. Would prob move him up a tier
@atcera8714
2 жыл бұрын
Basically El Fuerte but lacking some cheap
@MorteSeoinage
2 жыл бұрын
how to connect rolling sobat after drop kick in his combo. doing forward quarter circle after a (DF k )is crazy. let alone the follow up (down down Punch). any button buffering secret to it or just timing/practice. thanks (new to the game and first character)
@Neogears1312
2 жыл бұрын
Ramon tends to run away to whole right after getting a good lead so you never really have that factor as an issue. It’s like Ralf having no mix up potential; yeah it sucks but his kit does a pretty great job of neutralizing it.
@kaiserwave5977
2 жыл бұрын
@@atcera8714 El Fuerte was based on Ramon
@fulltimeweeb
2 жыл бұрын
My team is Athena/Whip/Yuri. Since this is my first KOF game I am hyped to find my team! I might look into Kukri and Rock Howard later.
@bootsthegod9084
2 жыл бұрын
So disheartening watching this and seeing so much of the cast deemed easy. I can’t seem to make anything work in this game so far 😂
@-8h-
2 жыл бұрын
Dont sweat it. I'm only halfway through the video and it comes across as very inaccurate. Take it with a grain of salt and keep practicing.
@disonalvan
2 жыл бұрын
i think the "easy" characters are easy in relation to the harder ones, but overall this game is pretty hard so it will take some time
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
“Easy” is relative to the rest of the cast, KOF can be tough to learn. Take it one step at a time and find others who are also learning the game as well
@bootsthegod9084
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone been grinding it out with my bro-in-law. We’re getting there lol
@maninredhelm
2 жыл бұрын
Can't agree with Leona being super easy compared to Athena. Having a long move list doesn't make a character difficult when all the moves are simple and have straightforward uses. Athena has a special for every situation but stubby normals, that's the character. Leona's a rushdown charge character with time bombs. Maybe once you master her she follows a bit of a flowchart, but you have to get on that level before she becomes simple.
@zhaf
2 жыл бұрын
I just immediately wanted to main Venessa….. man why do I do this to myself. I’ll be taking a lot of L’s online. I’m actually more interested in the dlc characters. B.Jenet, Geese and Yamazaki. Hope they’re fun to play.
@TrueNovemberXXXVI
2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand how people play charge characters and combo with them. It's always confused me how to utilize them.
@megadude5662
2 жыл бұрын
Kukari is pretty easy ngl. He has a ton of good tool with decent framedata. He can alwsys make himself safe/plus with sand . He has a plus on block super and decent mixups that aren't hard to execute
@CaptainGulasch
2 жыл бұрын
I usually have a really hard time figuring out a characters gameplan, would be awesome if to get some pointers on how to actually go about it especially with such a big roster.
@natetoopi567
2 жыл бұрын
This guys cute and has a nice voice. I’ve mained Ramon in every game he’s in so never really noticed his difficulty. He’s just fun to use.
@pedrobautista203
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video and great discussion. I love to hear how people think of my mains like Kukri, Terry and Krohen.
@hydrocannongamer2540
2 жыл бұрын
Even tho I keep hearing Angel is one of the hardest characters to learn I still want to play her
@ElvisMaximus1
2 жыл бұрын
Being completely serious, I really don't think she's as hard as people make out. Though, she IS complicated so there's no question there. People just make her out to be like crazy impossible or something She has very specific rules for unchained that you have to learn, but they really boil down to "Starter>Middle move(s)>Ender>..." so on and so forth. You must change both direction and button between each of the transitions and you can only use each one once. So 2A>6B would be valid, but then you can't do 2A again Once you learn the rules, it's just figuring out which moves go together and practice. Not really that much different then say, Noel or something in BBCF. The tricky part is not re-using moves in a combo without doing an ender. The hardest it gets is if you start using her Ex dash to retain corner and stuff like that, and that you sometimes whiff an unchained move to get to the next one you need after a launch (the classic is whiffing the overhead kick to get into the punch to get into the juggle kick or something like that). Someone posted a really good starter combo guide here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1p9-rJatg3ahin4 The real struggle is that she has the worlds stubbiest buttons, so you absolutely have to get in and have to confirm for damage using her routes, no playing the poking game with Angel
@granddaddy_funk
2 жыл бұрын
Don't let your dreams be dreams. Just do it
@Stroggoii
2 жыл бұрын
She's not hard you just need to memorize what the 14 options in her rekkas do so you don't drop spaghetti everywhere.
@hydrocannongamer2540
2 жыл бұрын
@@ElvisMaximus1 thanks for link and the breakdown of her unchain series
@demidevilqueen
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, keep the (Angel) dream alive!
@mercurexi
2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be addicted to the daily Diaphone KoF vid real fast...
@daddythiccems2913
2 жыл бұрын
so ive been learning elisabeth and honestly i feel shes a lot harder to pull off than it would seem. her punish game is weak without at super reversals. her moves are incredibly short range and the only way she punishes a lot of moves is if she gets the parry. some moves that are -9 and punishable by cr. C or st C for most chars will completely whiff with elisabeth. I feel like she is harder in that you cannot really play defensively with her and rely heavily on pressure. i just tested blocking kukri's qcfD( his tatsumaki). its got a big enough gap to reversal in between hits. elisabeth can actually reversal the last hit depending on the range but the punish is not guaranteed because sometimes kukri will move too far away after the teleport. it feels like doing the harder stuff on her is not as rewardable. her parry specifically can be harder to use than most because even if you guess right and you get the teleport. you will only get block pressure half the time. other characters get a good chunk of dmg or round ending combo into knockdown.
@Neogears1312
2 жыл бұрын
Time has only proven these issues to be your lack of skill.
@daddythiccems2913
2 жыл бұрын
@@Neogears1312 ive been testing her punishes. its relatively weaker than other chars. most will have consistent punishes. her supers are slower than others if not point blank. this pushback youll see on a variety of moves makes it harder. most of the time you get a far D at best when other characters get supers or EX moves to make up for the pushback. its not really a lack of skill just an observation of the character's effective range.
@KabutoGatack009
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the game cuz I love kula Ty for this insight. It'll be my first kof game but Imexcited to learn it. Planning terry iori kula. Will eventualy to branch out to athena and kyo.
@WinLoveCry
8 ай бұрын
This is super useful! nice guide to the roster...
@FlaglerAmerica
2 жыл бұрын
Lot of information but worth the time to watch until the end so thanks for the video and have a wonderful rest of your day,afternoon or night!
@yakiin9313
2 жыл бұрын
Ramón is actually kind of derp if you have just a little bit of prior fighting game experience, the run stop shenanigans is not what it used to be like in the sprite kofs. I personally would put his XV version in medium
@NuckleBebop
2 жыл бұрын
Heidern super easy, that's what i wanna hear im finally learning charge characters Heidern and Kagura in BBCF
@supergreenproduction2847
2 жыл бұрын
no way, hes super hard.
@iZonkGaming2021
2 жыл бұрын
Subbed! I bought the game for PC, I can play tomorrow! 2 years of SFV under the belt, let´s expand the horizons and have fun :) good video, helps a lot. I like Angel, Luong and Athena ... maybe Shun'ei? We'll see, first gotta learn the defensive options, basic combo routes and how that specific character gets in position to land damage....and mobility, looks very different from what I'm used to. Excited for the journey!
@Bluzlbee
2 жыл бұрын
Solid list, exceptions: Leona, K', Whip Leona was always having to be extra mindful of her spacing, so she can set up, anti air or projectile right K', fast feints are not easy Whip: she should be in hardest relatively, she's very unorthodox.
@haydenfisher1387
2 жыл бұрын
Whip feels natural to me when I practiced with her earlier, i found canceling into her half circle inputs really fun
@MercedesSteaven
2 жыл бұрын
Immediately paused the vid after leona, but on my way to rage comment I read your pinned comment. Glad you came around.
@SegaGirlNB
Жыл бұрын
As a Leona main and general fighting game noob as a whole, this makes me feel happy I chose her as my first character 🥰
@brumble634
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like the fact that it shows how many times I’ve lost like I wouldn’t if it didn’t effect how the matches went like I’m still trying to learn the game and my W/L ratio is abysmal and because of that when I lose almost nobody will rematch me. I even had some dude go out of their way to message me “Bruh just quit playing the game ur ass” I don’t see how I’m suppose to get any enjoyment out of the game if half the players that play won’t even rematch the game with someone thats worse then them. I completed training mode and a lot of the combo trials for the characters I use but people still seem to be better than me and I’ll admit I’m trash but it sucks I just wasted my money on something that I can’t even play half the time.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the people that bought the game before release date are sweaty AF LOL, just wait till normal release, and don’t worry about w/l rate just work on improving. ❤️
@bootsthegod9084
2 жыл бұрын
You’ll get better with time. The problem with the tutorial is it does not teach you how to actually build an offense. It’s the issue that’s always plagued KOF games. I’d suggest watching some matches on YT and taking some mental notes on how players engage each other. It’s also pre-release. Only for the most hardcore 😂
@doesntmatter4136
2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say coming up with an effective gameplan for Isla actually feels harder than doing it for Chizuru, as someone maining both. Her buttons are kinda stubby and have weird cancel options, with the exception (well, alongside CD) of her C which looks really good and is a decent poke but also has a huge deadzone between her and the hands which makes it lose to any hop and is very slow, on top of the proximity required for it being closer than you'd like for how slow it is. The hurtbox extends to the hands and does it early, which makes it really easy to punish and counterpoke. Her doublejumps/airborne gameplan is also hard to execute properly or take advantage of with the abundance of DPs and how relatively low risk it is to air to air in this game, considering most of the doublejump options commit her to the air for a very long time. Since her only plus on block normals are close LK/LP and 2LP and every way she has to get in faster is minus or punishable, in order to execute her pressure properly you have to be able to consistently TK your overheads/divekicks (former are harder to TK because you have a 214 grounded input as well), and you need to get used to her movement and those dives' trajectories in neutral as well (and considering one is very slow, one has a very small hitbox and the third can be punishable on hit when done from too high, that's not necessarily easy). To top it all off, her projectiles have very unconventional angles. I think she's a lot harder than you give her credit for. I guess a basic gameplan of poke with HP/j.CD, anti air with DP, mix with j.D and throw projectiles when you think you can get away with it isn't that hard to get but even those have their issues. So yeah idk, it bothered me.
@polar6066
Жыл бұрын
update?
@eastcoasttone3952
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough the three characters I'm the most interested in all happen to be in the super easy tier lol. Looks like Leona, Heidern, and Kula is my official squad now
@miloexe
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kukri is hard to play at all. His execution requirements are average and although his anti air game is weak I feel that his neutral is tricky enough that most players will have a harder time dealing with you just being random than you will with their jump ins so the neutral is in his favor against opponents of similar skill as yours imo.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s fair… I always found his neutral kinda weird to execute… but that’s also where part of his strength comes from
@Carrapato_RJalt
2 жыл бұрын
like k9 in 2002, the execution of his sdms is so strange. but i actually play a bit with he
@HateSonneillon
2 жыл бұрын
idk about kof15, but based on my past experience with King and Mai, I would swap their positions.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I could see it. Keep in mind, I don’t think there’s much difference between each tier so I think a lot could be interchangeable
@LEGENDARY11GAMER
2 жыл бұрын
diaphone super duper godlike KOFXV tier list 101%.
@dazeitem
2 жыл бұрын
K' is pretty hard to use effectively. Pretty much everyone use him for his corner damage. I haven't seen anyone use ein trigger + blackout effectively and consistently at the same time.
@milomilo2479
2 жыл бұрын
You know anyone i should follow for K' tips and combos ? I'm new to fighting games and kof in general
@Kburn1985
Жыл бұрын
Iron trigger is easy to use once you're used to it. It's a guessing game for the opponent, and there is no right move to counter it. Doing nothing after really freaks them out too, as recovery is extremely fast on the move. Blackout, even without iron trigger isn't that great or used often. K' is played as forcing the opponent to react to you, but blackout is the other way round. Plus, he has already heaps of mobility options. Minute spike is always better, as it's quick to come out, is also a guessing game if you follow up with narrow spike, and is a threat at the same time, which continues to force them to react to you. A lot of pro players on replays don't even use it at all, you see them spamming a lot of minute spikes though.
@blachout
2 жыл бұрын
team krohnen has 2 super easy characters and 1 of the hardest balance
@panda_7714
2 жыл бұрын
Love the video! I am a beginner at kof and fg in general(play Strive a bit and use to play ‘99 back on ps1 days casually) and planning to main Kula Mai Iori. Any tips or what order should I use?
@logostown6472
2 жыл бұрын
Try Mai her her combos are easy and give you a little idea to understand the mechanics
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I think that order - kula mai iori - works well
@Talking_Ed
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like many of the easy characters should go in medium and many of the medium should go in hard, like all the unusual ones.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think that’s fair, put it more on a “curve” so to speak. Tried to copy SNK style ratings, which also front weighted everything to easy as well
@Talking_Ed
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone Make sense!
@BknMoonStudios
2 жыл бұрын
I very rarely see anyone play or talk about Chizuru, and I'm interested on using her her. You guys have some guides and match footage to recommend for a newbie? Thanks. :)
@bootsthegod9084
2 жыл бұрын
Not much right now, but hopefully in the coming weeks since the games officially out today
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Check out ZJZ on TWITCH, best I’ve seen
@cylondorado4582
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about trying Angel, since the difficulty didn't scare me too much. But I looked into it a little, and it seems like a lot of work for a character that isn't THAT great.
@danriu
2 жыл бұрын
She is that great, but maybe your hands are not as great :V.
@nameisbad
2 жыл бұрын
@@danriu Chill lol
@danriu
2 жыл бұрын
@@nameisbad You are not great either :V.
@DiseasedCows
2 жыл бұрын
Picking this up competitively for the first time. My team so far is Athena, King of Dinosaurs, and Robert Garcia. How should I set this team up?
@zanepotter5725
2 жыл бұрын
In the order you typed it out basically. You could argue for KoD first and Athena second, but Robert has historically loved dumping meter for fat damage so anchor makes the most sense for him.
@mousefire777
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I just got kof xv today, never played xiv, and apparently in my 2 hours I’ve already unearthed everything there is to know about Yashiro
@jacowboy
2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people put charge characters on "super easy"... I mean, sure, for long time FG players, charge moves might not be an issue, but in 2022, when charge moves are sparse in FGs in general, and then with KOFs much MUCH faster pace than say SF (the only other prominent game with charge moves), I don't think new players would have the easiest time with charge characters... so to me, I'd put Heidern and Leona on easy at best, but medium sounds better, tbh... oh and since Robert is basically the Ryu of the game, he should go to very easy (and also put Luong into difficult, she does have stances).
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the player. I find charge characters easier in this game cause u don’t have to be as mobile and it’s waaay easier to AA, but can see the rationale the other way around
@henriquefinger935
2 жыл бұрын
Strive is fast and has multiple charge characters.
@psychodad4434
2 жыл бұрын
I’m skipping KoF since I’m still bad at mechanics in general and Strive and need to focus on those. But still watched this entire video, super enjoyable
@Carrapato_RJalt
2 жыл бұрын
was a angel main and no character is impossible to me
@glitchglitch2795
2 жыл бұрын
First time viewer here! I like the vibe 😁
@trekaelmajors986
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly he based the list on how simple the gameplan is or how good the character was not off how easy the character was. He put Clark in Easy, Imagine being a new player seeing this tier list, and being confused as to why you can't get command grab timings down.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean followup to the grab? (if so try the button hold trick) Or just landing the grab in general?
@PopulotusBoogiedown
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a new KOF player and I had no trouble whatsoever with him. Probably gonna main him too
@cesarhernandez3027
2 жыл бұрын
Leona in kof a 2012 is hard to do combos
@gyytgy3330
2 жыл бұрын
Wow gamers are usually ugly, but you are pretty 😻
@Stroggoii
2 жыл бұрын
Shotos Benimaru>Terry>Khronen>Kula>Iori>Shun>Robert>Andy>Joe>Yuri>King(not hard but bad) Zoners Athena>Mai>Meitenkun>Dolores>Whip>Ash>Kukri Rushdown Ralf>Chris>Ryo>Leona>Kyo>Vanessa Brawler Yashiro>Mary>Maxima>Antonov Grappler Shermie>Dinosaur>Clark>Ramon Mixup Heidern>Luong>K'>Isla>Chizuru>Elizabeth>Angel This is hard to agree on because characters are so complete they transcend archetypes. i.e. Athena is a zoner, a shoto and a mixup monster but she's mostly known for spamming Psycho Ball.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
King is bad??????????? We might not be playing the same game
@Stroggoii
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone Air VS helps but if you're playing only 1-2 shotos in your team, would you really play her over Beni, Kula, Iori or Joe?
@luiginihil5703
2 жыл бұрын
can u do an in depth guide for clark and shermie ? or just grapplers in general .
@seenoweevil1991
2 жыл бұрын
Subbed, nice video!
@atcera8714
2 жыл бұрын
I think Joe should be in easiest, it's just that his stuff is really unsafe
@delsi3795
2 жыл бұрын
Your background makes me sad there's no avatar fighting game yet 😢
@L7AckerL7
2 жыл бұрын
KOF IS LIFE
@WozViral
2 жыл бұрын
First time playing KOF with XV and my dumbass went for one of the hardest Character to play (Angel) hopefully i picked Terry and Mai for my team they're easy to pick up
@IXINineIXI
2 жыл бұрын
You should have done the DLC characters too. You are already doing characters that you don't play. Idk, just a thought.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea lol (Ithis is why I asked the help of a couple KOF vets to look over this list lol)
@kalanamak8280
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Unrelated but damn, *everyone* uses that site for cartoons huh?
@qnffidrjsdk30501
2 жыл бұрын
Iori, Mai, Benimaru is My Edit Team member
@Neogears1312
2 жыл бұрын
I think Krohnen isn't that easy because his combo structure is drastically different then most of the cast but unlike characters like Yuri with her incredible neutral tools he has great footsies but actually doing links and stuff is a lot harder because his command normal cant get much of anything off him.
@blues4509
2 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to determine who should be on what position? I have Leona on point, Shun'ei on mid and Mai on anchor but only Mai I have a general idea as to why she's there. Late game it's just easier to rely on the zoner character where nerves and error will affect you less.
@KaitouKaiju
2 жыл бұрын
Meter and max mode Some characters get a lot of reward off their EX, some get that huge damage/combo off super, and some don't need meter to do their gameplan
@kidda4
Жыл бұрын
Came here to find out how hard Geese is and he didn't even cover him?
@mkooij
2 жыл бұрын
Throw pin with Leona? What move is that? I tried to find it but couldn't find it anywhere
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Idk what it’s called… the earring? Lol
@mkooij
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone what is the input for it?
@dariang4725
2 жыл бұрын
Myaytenkoon and LAWNG are my mains
@bradalfk
2 жыл бұрын
I have had multiple people on the KoF subreddit and elsewhere tell me Heidern and Krohnen are advanced characters, but then I see you and some others put them as the easiest in the game. I am getting so many mixed messages from this community and it's very confusing as a new player lol
@Setteri_
2 жыл бұрын
I don't find krohnen to be that hard personally, heidern is much tougher for me because im not used to guile like characters.
@Dinghys
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly dude just dont even think about it unless you're planning on going competitive
@doesntmatter4136
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dinghys why would you care about a character's 'difficulty' if oyu're planning on going competitive lol
@Dinghys
2 жыл бұрын
@@doesntmatter4136 well you're going to have to do a lot more then the guy playing Dinosaur
@doesntmatter4136
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dinghys meh. at high enough level people know the counterplay, and its characters who are overall better, as opposed to easier, that benefit.
@isaacriggs4656
2 жыл бұрын
Ignorant means uninformed. It doesn't mean "stupid" necessarily, bro.
@morbius0views21yearsagowha9
2 жыл бұрын
why put Kyo in medium you supposed to put him in difficult
@supersonicprime
2 жыл бұрын
How do you determine the game plan for a character? You flew through a few and it was hard to follow as a new player?
@bootsthegod9084
2 жыл бұрын
This is THE question lol. From what I’ve gathered so far, it’s important to check out their normals that can help control neutral, anti air, stuff hop attacks, and if possible cancel into special/super from far (most need to be in close range). That seems to be it as matches I see are usually people poking, jumping around, and punishing unsafe moves. Hope that helps 🤷🏾♂️😂
@supersonicprime
2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsthegod9084 Appreciate you.
@qmachado6555
2 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree with this list. Heidern is easy to play? He’s a charge character, many people STILL can’t use charge characters effective in 2022. That’s why we have SFV iterations of Charlie and birdie. (Charge change to motion) How’s the pillow guy like Guile? How is KYO easier to play than heidern? KYO is the typical Ryu Shoto that everyone online is guaranteed to choose. How is Clark easy to use? Most people STILL can’t do 360 motions effectively in 2020 (360 reduced in SFV) Leona is SUPER easy to use? I think you have something against charge characters… Whip…hard to use? Hold forward and buttons…. Angel is hard to use?🤣 This is all stigma….she’s a directional character that’s simply remembering which direction to hold at what time and….dial up combos There’s a secret character in KOF 11 that controls in the same manner… Blue Mary is medium? No. She’s a combination of charge moves and 360 moves and dp’s. HARD to use. Vanessa is difficult? Just quarter circle forward after ANYTHING then juggle…rinse repeat. RYO is easier to play than YURI? Ryo doesn’t even have the tools that Yuri has! Elizabeth B is medium? No. She’s hard and situational. Dolores is medium ? That character is extremely difficult to use effectively in my op. Chris is medium difficult? Everyone just use the same combo from kof 98 Run to heavy punch into the low teleport kicks. Shun is super easy.. Anotov also is hard to use effectively. This list is warped 🤦
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I think there is more to a character difficulty than the motions you do with them (I value more ease of gameplan...) Tho I agree with some points here
@fusionferrari2902
2 жыл бұрын
11:03 why why you put shermie in medium difficulty?
@Younghoon15
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a king of fighters 15 specific or kof discord channel and subreddit for combos and tech?
@wolfensteinabsolutely8715
2 жыл бұрын
r/kof
@ElekiSerket
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played XV yet, but if the moveset remains more or less the same as in past iterations, Krohnen was a bit difficult to master for me back in the K9999 days and Vanessa was almost Terry levels of easy and straightforward
@PiccoloNamexio
2 жыл бұрын
Krohnen's input has changed, it's easier now
@sabastianpummill2446
2 жыл бұрын
So is there a kof discord
@LEGNDARY_MIST
2 жыл бұрын
Period Mai❤👇🏾
@LEGNDARY_MIST
2 жыл бұрын
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@alchemystn2o
2 жыл бұрын
Caw-ntent Streamer!!
@maximumlegends7811
2 жыл бұрын
what's the highest damage characters?
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Terry?
@logostown6472
2 жыл бұрын
I find Leona harder than angel bruh
@MaroonGoone
2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a guide on the language I are speaking WTF is 5 D
@CasteHappy
2 жыл бұрын
Look up "numpad notation" it's actually pretty easy! Copied from another comment: Look at the numpad on your keyboard, and imagine that every number is a direction if you are facing right: 2 is down, 6 is forward, 4 is back, 5 is neutral position, 9 is up + forward, and so on. Then, 5D would mean No direction + the D button, a quarter circle forward motion would be 236, and a shoryuken motion would be 623. Look up "numpad" notation, it's mostly used in anime fighting games, but you can use it for any 2D game.
@pokemonsonic321
2 жыл бұрын
Chris is the easiest free
@SoFreshNSerene
2 жыл бұрын
What’s dp mean
@BigALBoomer
2 жыл бұрын
Dragon punch. F, D, DF & Punch
@ravens3558
2 жыл бұрын
Idk, this game just comes off as some button mashing BS.
@MILDMONSTER1234
10 ай бұрын
That’s what they all say after losing 😂
@deviljinmishima
2 жыл бұрын
translate for spanish plz
@CasteHappy
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, soy el editor de Diaphone, y soy literalmente español lol Nunca he llegado a poner subtitulos en un video pero si veo que podría ayudar a gente de habla hispana, podría plantearmelo. De todas formas si tienes alguna duda concreta puedo echar un cable
@cxlanhai7553
2 жыл бұрын
雅典娜指令投
@cxlanhai7553
2 жыл бұрын
雅典娜ex26bd没了无敌。改得不行
@CommandThrow
2 жыл бұрын
This cast is OD.
@humzaqureshi1391
2 жыл бұрын
Leona easy?? Bruh she’s hard asf
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I messed up there lol
@mrMario468
2 жыл бұрын
no
@henrymcquilling5454
2 жыл бұрын
get an adblocker my guy
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I have one ahhhh
@davidkeatts2480
2 жыл бұрын
my entire time is easy lmao
@GARFIELDMOVIE2
2 жыл бұрын
wrong
@tecnology893
2 жыл бұрын
show me a game of yours in a tournament in a top 8 to support your opinion otherwise... your list is nothing. you are just an online warrior youtuber. for that reason your number of likes are very few. 
@nekomekoplays
2 жыл бұрын
Uhm, Diaphone was 5th in the recent NLBC tournament of Kof 15.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
I have plenty of tourney run videos on my channel/others... it would have taken you less time to look this up than to type out this message lol
@tecnology893
2 жыл бұрын
@@Diaphone s t f U Online Warrior
@Nu_Merick
2 жыл бұрын
Wtf is this list🤣
@eldad7263
2 жыл бұрын
It really annoys me more than it should when ppl call a character that throws a fireball a shoto character. Shoto is derived from Shotokahn Karate. Which is the base of Ryu and Ken with a focus on Denjin. Side note the most Shotokahn character in existence is Makoto, thats right a character with no fireballs nor shoryuken. Fix your terms buddy.
@babadook1283
2 жыл бұрын
Cope + L + Seethe + Your smelly + no bitches + ratio
@CasteHappy
2 жыл бұрын
No one in the FGC thinks of what you're saying when refering to shotos, that definition is pretty much agreed upon (fireball, shoryu, tatsu, mid range, whatever) and it really doesn't need to be accurate. It's cool to know where it came from and all that but it literally doesn't matter in the context of fighting games. It's like how the "Mishima" archetype in Tekken can describe characters that have nothing to do with the Mishima family.
@Diaphone
2 жыл бұрын
What term should I use to describe someone with a fireball and a dp?
@eldad7263
2 жыл бұрын
@@CasteHappy yeah by this knowledge the existence of words and definitions are irrelevant because what matters is your truth right? It doesn't matter that it's incorrect, it just matters that we are all incorrect therefore we are right. Sorry pal dont work that way words have definitions. Shit i would even accept making your own term like Dragon fire punch ball character, but dont use words that already have a definition and make up your own definition. Also if a group sheep lemmings agree with you, it make it correct.
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