A great fix! I am glad you were able to repair it and use it as a learning experience for others!
@EricSchaeferGuitars
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It turned out to be a happy accident after all, because it gave me something to make a video about!
@russellscott1151
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, done that. Home made drum sander grabbed my walnut back and threw it into a door :( fortunately I repaired it in the same way you did and you cannot even see the small split. Great advice. Thanks
@Ksantipacat
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. I'm a novice at guitar repair, but I'm trying to do a little wood repair on a 1920s wooden lap steel guitar. There is a small separation on the top and another one on the lower bound between the side and the back. Since I can't really sand the wood after gluing, I probably can't use CA glue. It's a natural matte Koa finish. I'm planning to use liquid high glue, but just wondering if it will discolor the wood and leave discoloration around the repair site, even after I wipe excess glue away from the spot? Thanks!
@walterrider9600
5 жыл бұрын
thank you Eric . i spent 10 years as a machinist and did all kinds of work in that field . in metal i would have to drill a small hole at each end then braze / weld but in wood i do not see that done why ? the holes kept the crack from migrating that was the reason for those .
@EricSchaeferGuitars
5 жыл бұрын
You can do that in wood. I've used that technique on wood before where I didn't care about the aesthetics as much, but never on guitars. It's difficult to fill the hole afterwards in a way that is either invisible or natural looking. But it certainly does stop a crack from spreading if the hole is placed in the right spot. In fact, in the video that's exactly what happened to me. The crack that I had was stopped by an enormous hole, the soundhole! Lol. Otherwise it would have split further down the top. But yeah, I think cleating is a better solution aesthetically and structurally.
@walterrider9600
5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSchaeferGuitars thank you Eric it does make sense . i did have to ask
@walterrider9600
4 жыл бұрын
@@EricSchaeferGuitars thank you Eric i can see that as a big problem
@stevesstrings5243
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, Thanks for the video. Very helpful! How would you describe the tone of cedar compared to spruce? It seems that classical guitars tend to use spruce and flamenco guitars tend to use cedar. In your opinion, why would a builder choose one over the other?
@EricSchaeferGuitars
5 жыл бұрын
Well I find that it has the most incredible sustaining taptone compared to other woods, and so I assume that that taptone is having a similar effect on the end result of the instrument, but it's always hard to say. There are so many factors that go into an instrument, and I don't produce the same or even similar models often enough to make strong correlations of that kind. Most tonal difference are related to bracing patterns and voicings anyway, not wood species. I don't like to make claims about the tone of any wood, and I'm highly skeptical of anyone who does. So all I can say is that the taptone makes me want to use it time and time again.
@stevesstrings5243
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, Thanks for the response. That makes sense, especially since flamenco typically uses percussion.
@dassouki
5 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. For cleats does it matter if you use hardwood or the same material as the top?
@EricSchaeferGuitars
5 жыл бұрын
Softwood is best, because it's minimal. I was just demonstrating with some strips of mahogany there because that's what I had, but ideally spruce or cedar are best.
@WhittleDude
4 жыл бұрын
Would it be best to use a piece of veneer or use the thicker piece you used? It just seems like any additions to the sound board than what's needed would drastically effect the resonance.
@EricSchaeferGuitars
4 жыл бұрын
The piece that I showed in the video was a little thick, probably .125", in actuality they would be trimmed down to 0.085" - .1" either before or after being glued in place. Of course, in the example of the actual crack that I had in the video, it wouldn't matter how thick the cleat was because it was essentially outside of the acoustically active part of the soundboard, but I'm assuming you're talking about in the case of splits in the lower bout (the active part), and I'll proceed with that assumption... So I guess it depends on what you mean by veneer, but you do want them to be thick enough to do it's job. And without getting too into the weeds here, the effect it can have on resonance can actually go in either direction. If the instrument isn't overbuilt (as most guitars are) it's almost as likely to improve the tone in some measurable way as it is to degrade it. It gets complicated, especially depending on where you are actually placing the cleat. But you can take some comfort in knowing that tone isn't always a 'less is more' game, as it's often portrayed.
@trentjpyt
4 жыл бұрын
Good video. But don't do this on spruce. The CA wicks into the end-grain and can leave a green stain you'll never get out.
@EricSchaeferGuitars
4 жыл бұрын
This is true. Thanks. I wish I'd mentioned it in the video. Great point.
@kommi1974
4 жыл бұрын
All you do is just spray some shellac down before adding CA glue and the wood will not discolor. No worries at all.
@rickeydenler2385
2 жыл бұрын
Who would want to spend 5000 and up for a guitar with a split top used guitar repair yes new guitar no !
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