Is your free laptop program still going on? I'll send my address.. Trying hard to put my sick grandma through college
@TheButtercool
6 жыл бұрын
Jack1138 Same, I’m really REALLY need a laptop right now
@tcm1976
6 жыл бұрын
8bit guy has a reverse program now, you can send him a free laptop.
@AE86ofMtAkina
6 жыл бұрын
@@tcm1976 That got shut down too.
@TR2000LT
6 жыл бұрын
@@AE86ofMtAkina Im doing that program now if you want send the computer you're using now(if you're on phone it's ok too)
@MrStarTraveler
5 жыл бұрын
He has a new program now: If you donate X amount of dollars to him, he'll send you back a free laptop gift of equivalent value ;)
@banderfargoyl
8 жыл бұрын
Will it play Edison style phonograph cylinders?
@bitrage.
4 жыл бұрын
BAGAHAHA! EBAY HAS OFFERS NOW THO TOO!
@lannoene
4 жыл бұрын
Let me check... Yes. It does
@T-WaL
4 жыл бұрын
Yes but you have to buy an adapter.
@jazzius
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@Johnny_Ultimate
5 жыл бұрын
its amazing how this is completely relevant to this day. NOTHING has changed!
@stevesmith1383
5 жыл бұрын
why would it have changed? people are hardly going to change
@DailyCorvidMusic
3 жыл бұрын
2021 still relevent 🤣 provide g online scamming via eBay is still their main purpose
@agsedrecords1967
2 жыл бұрын
people are still idiots
@ATCRyderX
8 жыл бұрын
All in all - eBay is wonderful but I truly miss the days when Sellers were permitted to leave Buyers Negative Feedback.
@encycl07pedia-
7 жыл бұрын
Amazon is far better. Ebay was just scams and idiots and getting sniped on bidding. Only reason I had an Ebay account was because I was a teenager without a credit card and Paypal could just use my bank account. After an expensive set of DVDs got "lost in the mail," I said goodbye. Amazon has some scams, but they're usually easy to spot and not nearly as rampant. I think it's because setting up a seller profile is harder than on Scambay.
@outsidercain3038
7 жыл бұрын
Dude i'm sorry for your lost DVD collection but you have a solution. Mine was a FF6 Advance mint and got lost in mail but I got refund in 3 days (and finally received it). Even when I was scammed with fake sale. Refunded lightspeed to bank account, not PP. Take care on the eMarkets.
@@encycl07pedia- (This is in praise of Amazon:) I once set up an Amazon seller account to sell some used books, but I didn't have my current email address associated with the account. So of course many many people tried to buy my books and didn't receive anything. Amazon shut down my account and never let me back on, and I consider that a good thing because I was totally unprepared to be a seller and it shows they don't tolerate poorly-run business.
@maartenroest8842
5 жыл бұрын
True, my solution is to provide positive feedback but with NEGATIVE COMMENT IN CAPITALS. Should be a better way for that though...
@DougVandegrift
8 жыл бұрын
This guy has a solid head on his shoulders. Too bad so many consumers are so dumb. I would like to do business online but I just can't deal with the dumb idiot stupid head buyers.
@ABQSentinel
8 жыл бұрын
+Doug Vandegrift Yeah, it's rough and my hat is off to this guy. I had my own computer business back in the late 90s/early 2000s where I did stuff similar to him--PC repair, rebuild and sell stuff on eBay. Back then, eBay was a LOT better because there wasn't this default judgement in favor of the buyer like he described. But even at that, you had to deal with non-payment issues, and such. The worst was when people would try to scam you--they would buy something, claim it didn't work, and then send it back with parts removed or with different components than what was originally installed--and, they would give you negative feedback on top of it! The biggest problem was eBay, itself. When you sell something on eBay, they charge a listing fee, they get a percentage of the sale amount, and they also get a second percentage for PayPal. I quickly realized that, on expensive items with narrow margins, eBay was making more money on my sales than I was! So, I say f&%* it, and went corporate. I specialized in cyber security and now I work for a large telecom company making a six-figure salary with great benefits, work from home, and have a lot more free time than I did when I was running my own business. I'll never forget a sign over the desk of one of my former clients (she owned a successful art gallery) that read: The Only Thing More Overrated than Natural Childbirth is the Joy of Owning Your Own Business.
@LarryKoopa
8 жыл бұрын
+Doug Vandegrift consumers ? do you mean customers ?
@junkmail7590
8 жыл бұрын
+Larry Koopa see. this is the type of people that you will see on eBay. Consumers and customers is the same thing
@LarryKoopa
8 жыл бұрын
i didnt know im not english .... i didnt know what consumer ment at all ...
@slimebuck
7 жыл бұрын
i used to be an online seller / buyer and I had to quit cuz of dumb ass idiots.
@antwakefield
8 жыл бұрын
Seriously, i don't even bother answering stupid questions. I found when i did in the past, it was extremely rare that someone asking a question would end up bidding. If they can't read a description, i don't want them as a customer. It's that simple.
@gabrielrangel2185
8 жыл бұрын
"Will you send me a laptop for free?" :P Yeah! -The 8 Bit Guy
@rossithomas2415
8 жыл бұрын
Will you buy a laptop for me and ship it to me for free? With a box of sweets.
@kebman
7 жыл бұрын
Me too! I'd like a laptop for free, thank you! Please put a note on it that it marks it as "for free" before you send it off to Norway, or else I will have to bill you for cutoms tax! Thanks in advance! :D
@oscargalindo26
7 жыл бұрын
REALLY !!!!! Stupid u . Go back to the dame video stupid dumb ass I hate u and the one that keep asking for it
@diardc_
7 жыл бұрын
ocar 10 it was a joke therefore making you the stupid one
@smallandangrywillow2247
7 жыл бұрын
ocar 10 ...k wot.
@The8BitGuy
11 жыл бұрын
I've had that one a handful of times too.
@mrlplop3145
3 жыл бұрын
The conditions is good!
@MattMcIrvin
5 жыл бұрын
The confusion about "will it run this program?" is just an echo of the confusion people had originally back in the early 1980s when these computers were new. Many people honestly did not understand that Apple II software would not run on an Atari. I remember friends of friends offering me pirated software that wouldn't even run on my machine.
@okhan5087
9 жыл бұрын
"thats how I stay in business, by giving away laptops for free"
@raven4k998
3 жыл бұрын
I saw a question on amazon for hydrogen peroxide was where the nutritional info on it like that would be important for drinking purposes 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
@kuhboom22
8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe your number one question from Craigslist isn't "Is it still available?" .. and nothing else within the message. I get this ALL the time and just don't respond anymore, because when I DO respond "Yes", 100% of the time I never receive another email from these people anyway.
@The8BitGuy
8 жыл бұрын
+kuhboom22 Actually, that WAS the number one question (I say "was" because I don't sell anymore) but that was always from automated scammers, not real people, so I didn't include it. Yes, I learned long ago to pretty much delete any email that was not specific to the item being sold. If it was very generic, for example, if they called it an "item" instead of a laptop, I knew it was a scammer.
@elifrancoeur4602
8 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy How come you stopped selling laptops? By the way, your videos are awesome.
@MusicalBox
8 жыл бұрын
Actually, I will ask that question to a seller, especially if I suspect he or she doesn't sell very often, or if the ad is older than, say, a week or two. I don't know how many times I wasted time writing to a seller asking for some info he/she didn't provide in the description and get the reply "I sold that days (or weeks) ago". They just don't care about removing the ad after they sell their product. If I sell something on Kijiji (or Craigslist), I will mention that if the ad is still there, it mean it's not sold yet.
@tekdro
8 жыл бұрын
+MusicalBox I've sold all kinds of stuff on craigslist for a good 10 years or so and those are the 3 most annoying wastes of time. Responding to emails immediately only to NEVER hear back again (probably at least 95% scammers just phishing for email addresses), answering questions I've already taken the time to very clearly explain or show on my listing to kids or cheapskate window shoppers who for some reason don't seem to bother reading the listing but they usually flake out ultimately anyway even if you accept the lowball offer they pitched to you, and the inconsiderate sellers who clutter the site up with listings for weeks after they've sold them and just never bothered to delete. The last one I can never understand. I always delete listings as soon as I can after they're sold. For one thing it's just the considerate thing to do, and it usually takes longer to deal with responses for sold items than the 20 seconds it takes to log in and delete the listing anyway. It just makes the site that much worse the more lazy sellers who don't bother.
@MusicalBox
8 жыл бұрын
tekdro These inconsiderate sellers are probably people who only use these sites once or twice in their life time. They are easy to spot. Almost no details whatsoever in the description, bad pics and bad grammar (btw, sorry if MY English grammar isn't perfect, I'm french). When someone sell more often, he or she learns to make better ads and will eventually start to delete them from the site as soon as the item is sold.
@alimombali2035
6 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2018: It gives a mix of weird / nostalgic feelings seeing the iBook/8bit/keyguy in this 320p'ish resolution with this bare background.
@chrisnaiello
9 жыл бұрын
This is a very insightful look into human nature.
@musaran2
6 жыл бұрын
"People just don't read" "Keep it short" Words of wisdom from experience.
@njintau
8 жыл бұрын
Communicating with a buyer on Ebay. Ebay Buyer: "So, what it do?" 8-Bit Guy: "Umm...please refer to the..." Ebay Buyer: "I saayed what it do dagnabit!"
@raven4k998
3 жыл бұрын
I can not buy the computer anymore cause sadly I was in a car wreck and now am to badly injured to need it anymore lol
@ReelfunkyProductions
8 жыл бұрын
I use to sell Laptops on Ebay and stopped because of all the problems this guy mentions. The customers hardly ever pay, they pretend it was broken when it arrives so ebay will force you to refund despite the fact they have never sent the laptop back, they will leave you poor feedback because they couldnt be bothered reading the description. Worst place to trade.
@vinnieboombatzmd3508
9 жыл бұрын
Man, you nailed it on eBay as a seller- People are idiots who don't read the ads and PayPal always takes the side of the buyer. Craigslist= everyone wants to lowball and haggle and buyers are sketchy and totally unreliable.
@johnwayne2103
9 жыл бұрын
***** On two occasions I was glad PayPal came to my rescue because one packaged a 55lbs server with packing peanuts and it came destroyed. I sent the seller the pictures and told him why did he pack it in peanuts?He wouldn't respond so I called Paypal and they froze his account until he sent me a new server and I sent the old one back. 2nd time was for a lamp that was destroyed when it arrived, again improper packing by the seller. The same thing occurred and he wanted me to file a claim against UPS. I told them UPS would not touch it because the first thing they would claim was improper packing.Again the seller went silent. Paypal came to my rescue. Remember the customer is king. It's the suckyest part of being in business. So in my book PayPal has worked out great for me.
@denimadept
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnwayne2103 It's fine if you're the buyer. That's why I stopped selling on eBay.
@denimadept
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnwayne2103 And I can be out of business if the customer commits fraud, as happens all too often. It happened to me, I was out.
@denimadept
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnwayne2103 So does the seller. I'll be out of business once the customers finish defrauding me. It goes BOTH ways. eBay is not balanced in this way, so I won't sell through them.
@denimadept
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnwayne2103 Who said I packaged improperly? There are lots of examples of customers committing fraud. eBay doesn't care, so I don't sell on eBay.
@AnalogAudio1
7 жыл бұрын
after selling for years on eBay (and exactly describing the condition), I realized that questions like "what is the condition" or "is it still available", "does it work" is some kind of test. They want to check if you are a nice guy, If you answer quickly, if you are honest... because pics, descriptions can be stealed, they want to know if you are the "real" seller or writer. No matter how annoying, don't be rude, stay cool and answer as nice as you can. Then you will sell better. It took me years to realize... but that's the real answer, although people will not admit it, it's psychological
@gianluca.g
7 жыл бұрын
AnalogAudio1 agree, they just want to develop a connection with the seller, no more. It would be awkard to say "are you a nice guy? are you the seller?" so they just go for the obvious but nevertheless ridicolous questions
@freesaxon6835
6 жыл бұрын
AnalogAudio1 exactly right!
@johnrickard8512
6 жыл бұрын
I generally only email sellers if I notice a discrepancy between the item description and images(TI-92 in the image, but a TI-92 Plus in the description), if there's a detail that I do not know, or if some other anomaly has occurred.
@PCEngineGaijin
6 жыл бұрын
AnalogAudio1 When a buyer asks me a question that is clearly stated in the item description, I assume they have not read the listing. This means 1) they are not that interested in purchasing the item, or 2) they don’t want to spend time reading about what they are going to spend money on. Neither of these are people i want to do business with, so I don’t reply.
@tomwilson2112
6 жыл бұрын
Twice now, I've bought an item on EBay, only to be told something like "there's a recall on this" (there wasn't - I checked) or just "this isn't in stock." "How can you not have it in stock? Ebay requires you to actually have the item in hand before listing it?" "Well, we drop-ship these from the manufacturer..." That's not what EBay is for.... But the "There's a recall on this device," was obviously a lie. I checked with the manufacturer, and there was no recall. I think the guy realized he had it listed at too low a price (it was about half what everyone else was asking) and wanted to get more money for it. Talk about frustrating. Finally, there's the time I had an actual problem fulfilling a sale. I went to factory reset a tablet computer, and it wouldn't boot after the reset. So I emailed the buyer and explained that it didn't work, and I was going to refund his money. He LIED on the feedback and said I canceled the sale "with no explanation." That's simply not true; I emailed him and gave the same reason in the refund. I hate dishonest people.
@AiOinc1
4 жыл бұрын
"Make Offer" is now an official part of eBay and it's even listed in the contact options for the seller... But it's meant for reasonable offers, it'll even warn you if it thinks it's too low!
@AlexM-vt5pu
8 жыл бұрын
14:15 That's the haggle mentality. Some people will never pay the asking price for a used item and think that everything can come down a bit. They know it says $350 for the laptop but are thinking that this is the pre-haggle price.
@jovetj
4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to India.
@PhilOsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
Yup. If it's a car or bike I usually bump the price a bit so they haggle down to the price I actually wanted.
@encycl07pedia-
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate hagglers. I realize in other countries haggling is commonplace, but in the USA the price on the product is the price you pay. They're a bunch of selfish pricks holding up other customers who aren't total sleazebags.
@oliverkeating4894
7 жыл бұрын
It is a very good video. I have had experiences like this too, I think that it comes down to: 1. People are lazy - ask you questions that are already in the text 2. People are looking for a bargain - they make silly offers because an email costs nothing and sometimes the seller will do it 3. People do not believe the "sticker price" is the actual price (hence the "how much is your $350 laptop") 4. Ebay stopped allowing sellers to leave negative feedback (crazy in my opinion) I have noticed the first situation actually gets worse with the more text you put in the description - i.e. you try to solve it by adding more detail, but the result is it becomes too large and then they ask you. One solution is a summary of key information, and "picture is a thousand words" is a good observation. I also think non-payment has become a much bigger issue since ebay stopped sellers leaving negative feedback. I dislike this "customer is always right" mentality, but I think as it has grown and there are many full businesses, consumer protection laws kick in and result in always taking the customers side.
@ThatGuyBrian
8 жыл бұрын
Hey, does your iBook G3 work? Is it free? If so, I'll buy it for 10 dollars! Also, does it run Storm3D, and does it play DVDs?!
@vicr123
8 жыл бұрын
"Is it free? If so, I'll buy it for $10!" :P
@micahgabbard3002
8 жыл бұрын
And whats the price on that $350 one?
@themcchannel165
8 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever.
@themcchannel165
8 жыл бұрын
+Micah Gabbard LOL
@themcchannel165
8 жыл бұрын
Sora Gasai I used to play it ALOT, but, I don't play it much anymore. I just can't think of another channel name xD
@SolidIncMedia
4 жыл бұрын
My favourite encounter when selling a 2009 Unibody Macbook last year, were the parents who knew nothing about computers asking "my son / daughter is starting high school tomorrow, will this be a good computer?", despite the listing saying rather explicitly that it was a slow computer that needed a new battery, a new hard-drive, more RAM and OS X re-installed. I asked more than a few people "can you confirm that you've read the description?" Fortunately I ended up selling it to a guy who knew exactly what he was buying.
@blackterminal
8 жыл бұрын
You should stop doing the money back deal. Take all the money the idiots want to pay. I see that all the time in Auctions here in NZ. Those over bidders cause others to miss out. They should just have to deal with their idiocy of over paying.
@MidagedgamerBlogspotter
7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree and you're dead on there. Why the hell should a seller have to babysit a buyer with no self-control. I was raised that as an adult you take responsibility for your own actions and deal with the consequences., I guess they don't teach that any more.
@mLswanson
7 жыл бұрын
When I sell stuff I absolutely do not offer refunds period. Every item I ship is well-packed and ensured and if they claim it comes damaged, they can take up the insurance claim. I do this because I once sold a phone and shipped it, the guy got it, claimed that it didn't work. I accepted the refund, he ships it back, and it was in perfect working order just like I sold it. I suspect he DID NOT READ the part where I said the phone could only be used on the Sprint network and probably took it to T-Mobile or AT&T or something.
@raabsand
6 жыл бұрын
Ugh Matt that happened to me in a similar fashion
@stephenhornickiii
4 жыл бұрын
@@MidagedgamerBlogspotter I completely agree, but like he said in the video: "They're going to get their money back anyway." That's the reality of eBay 'till this day. You honestly have very little to fear on eBay if you're a buyer and make sure not to violate any ToS.
@Mikeywil0003
8 жыл бұрын
I gave up on eBay and Craigslist. The level of stupidity is not something I have the patience for dealing with. The little bit of stuff that I sell, I do on a local Facebook page that is invite only.
@texanerhydropi
9 жыл бұрын
"i need free laptop cuz my mom in hospital" That's gonna help her?
@astupidmidge
5 жыл бұрын
That kid would probably be better off buying morphine for her mother's operation
@RescueRestoreShorts
8 жыл бұрын
Great video! I can definitely relate to the same issues you are having. I would recommend requiring immediate payment on ebay items. It completely eliminates all non paying buyers.
@The8BitGuy
8 жыл бұрын
+Shabby DIY Only on buy-it-now items. If it is an auction, they can still not pay. But yes, the last year that I was selling on ebay I switched to buy-it-now on everything.
@RescueRestoreShorts
8 жыл бұрын
The 8-Bit Guy Yeah, you're right sorry. I haven't done an auction listing in a long time.
@thepoliticalstartrek
8 жыл бұрын
I can't pay for that laptop. Godzilla ate my bank, and my work.
@anthonyorm
2 жыл бұрын
buyer pro tip: add the item to your watch list and wait a day, the seller will usually give you a "discount" for 10% off
@psivewri
8 жыл бұрын
I did a bit of a Gumtree rant myself and it's surprising how many of our complaints are the same
@lightinggaming5711
3 жыл бұрын
How did u get here
@BuildingMakingDoing
4 жыл бұрын
When the axiom “It doesn’t hurt to ask” is taken to an illogical extreme. :(
@nrnoble
5 жыл бұрын
A rather entertaining video. Common experience when dealing with selling consumer products. When I was in computer sales many years ago, I quickly discovered 10% of all customers were the source of 90% of all sales\support problems. I suspect they were problems customers everywhere they did business. There were a few times talking with other people that worked at other businesses in the area we found that a common customers that got the label of "The customer from hell"; it almost appeared these customers spent their life buying and returning items, or demanding endless support. If they bought a $2 power cable for their computer, they felt entitled for support on everything related to their computer system and every device connected. Rarely did they ever buy any big ticket items, but they milked every purchase as if they just bought a new car at full retail.
@faenethlorhalien
Жыл бұрын
People don't read. They don't want to read. Same kind of people who will NEVER EVER read an instruction manual and then complain the gizmo is shit when they unavoidably break it because of manhandling and not following instructions. They deserve hemorroids.
@B-Hathaway
9 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I run an eBay store for a golf shop, and I get several questions a day, asking about specifics that are stated in multiple areas of my listings. And also, at least three times a week someone will purchase a golf club from me that is left handed, when they are right handed, and they didn't realize what they had ordered. And yet again I state in the title, item specifics, and my detailed item description whether the item is left handed or not. It's a daily gauntlet.
@Storm_.
8 жыл бұрын
I work in retail and I can relate to pretty much everything you've spoken about. I personally think that technology is meant for above average IQ individuals but due to fashion/trends/apple you get oxygen wasters buying them and that's where everything goes wrong.
@batlin
8 жыл бұрын
Oxygen wasters... ROFL :)
@Godslayer1975
8 жыл бұрын
the worst people are the morons selling these , i think you might be the 1% of sellers that works at retail and has a clue because most are morons with no IQ that dont know what ram or the basics of what there selling , like 99% of the morons who worked at Bestbuy geek squad utter morons 99% of all them
@studiopapa5874
6 жыл бұрын
The parents of the people who go to my school buy them apple devices and now the children run around saying apple is the best.
@prismstudios001
5 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that is a SCHOOL TEACHER.. She is the biggest tech idiot I`ve ever met, In response to a question about charging a power bank on her PC, she actually asked me "What`s a USB"? This was about 3 years ago, and she still does not know!I volunteer in her class sometimes, where I end up typing a lot of her emails, and other computer based tasks. My favorite? Adding a reading program to the saved bookmarks in 15 Chromebooks, at really short notice, or having to download a program into 4 PCs( a freaking test!)...She had no idea how to find the program. Thankfully it was on the internet.
@encycl07pedia-
2 жыл бұрын
@@Godslayer1975 Yep. I felt betrayed when I realized the "Geek" Squad was just a bunch of salesmen that didn't have to know anything about electronics.
@wesofx8148
9 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I worked for an estate sale company and everything you've said so far (I'm half way through the video) is spot-on.
@Mike-ff7ib
7 жыл бұрын
Great rant. I feel you are fair with how you handle these situations. In my opinion, some people are probably just being cautious and perhaps wanting some reasurance that the item and information are accurate. The same way you dont know them, they dont know you and they cant see the product in real life and therefore have to trust everything in the ad as being accurate.
@vtvincent4893
5 жыл бұрын
What's worse is throughout the last 5-6 years, eBay has strategically screwed sellers in every way possible. You can't functionally sell as-is products anymore, you can't leave negative feedback when warranted, and they will always side with the buyer.
@blairlohnes8103
8 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2016... I'm so glad you have a decent microphone these days haha
@ADDrecords
2 жыл бұрын
No more eBay selling. Too many fees (even a free from shipping cost) and now they make you wait days to get your money. Husband has had people drive hours for a Craigslist item like a dirt bike, then they try to haggle, husband says no and they go right back home lol! One guy came from 2 states away to buy a $25k truck and only brought $20k, husband said no deal, so the dummy drove back home to get more money from a family member and come back. Unreal...
@connorm955
2 жыл бұрын
I quit selling on ebay when i couldn't use paypal to get paid, but i can buy ebay stuff with paypal? Makes no sense.
@edr777
5 жыл бұрын
I'm 6 years late but enjoyed watching this. I ran a full time online reseller business from 2008 to 2012. You're spot on with the stupid customers. I certainly don't miss it after going back to a regular 9 to 5 job.
@MoonLiteNite
8 жыл бұрын
my laptop won't turn on, how do i fix it?
@hugorodriguez977
8 жыл бұрын
shove it up yur ass
@driptopia
8 жыл бұрын
He said it wont turn on
@MoonLiteNite
8 жыл бұрын
Marius no, i can only turn it off. it won't turn on :D
@cstro216
8 жыл бұрын
+Marius soooooooo original
@creeperzone2215
8 жыл бұрын
how about, ah! try to charge it :D
@kelboswell
6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this! Imagine doing this 20 years ago with VCRs. Folks would OK repair estimates. I would do the approved work. They would show up two years later, after repeated attempts to contact them, wondering about their VCR I sold a year ago. Duh?
@KrawmKruach
4 жыл бұрын
This is the 8-bit guys version of "What grinds my Gears"
@TheNotoriousRay
3 жыл бұрын
this man was ahead of his time, this entire video sums up facebook marketplace, offerup, craigslist and of course as mentioned in the video, ebay lol
@Nimpibly
8 жыл бұрын
when selling something i alway ask for $20 more than i actually want, that way when i give them $10-$20 off the feel like the achieved something and i just laugh all the way to the bank :)
@AJMansfield1
8 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is the way to do it on craigslist.
@kkknotcool
8 жыл бұрын
You are the bane or reasonable people selling on CL. The price should be the price and if you sell it for less that is just as dishonest as jacking up the price.
@AJMansfield1
8 жыл бұрын
+kkknotcool No it's not. That there is literally what Craigslist is for - it's the classifieds section of the Internet, and haggling has been part of that process since time immemorial. You zealots of the 'one true price' are toxic to that ecosystem and good riddance if you go broke pushing your price-fixing doctrines.
@kkknotcool
8 жыл бұрын
Anson Mansfield biding and haggling belongs in the middle ages. If something is worth 50 dollars and you sell it for 45 than you are getting ripped off and if you list it for 60 and sell it for 55 than you are ripping off the buyer and making the customer think that he can expect a discount in the future, even from others who might just list things for what they think it is worth. Sell things for what you want it for and stop wasting peoples time and ripping people off.
@AJMansfield1
8 жыл бұрын
+kkknotcool it's actually much more fair to do it this way, where we can settle on a price intermediate between the buyer's and seller's prices, so that the market surplus is split evenly - the buyer and the seller are on equal ground. Nobody wants to buy from a dealer on Craigslist anyway. If you're too stupid to use the system the way it is supposed to work, I have no sympathy for the problems you make for yourself with that attitude.
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
4 жыл бұрын
Here it is, almost 7 years later... I'm an eBay / Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace seller and all of these are STILL the case. And almost all of these are still just as annoying. I've gotten the "my kid bought it" excuse plenty of times. And when people don't show up to buy something they said they were coming for (Craigslist & Facebook), it's amazing how many times their excuse is "I was in a car wreck".
@SandyRiverBlue
4 жыл бұрын
What I really really hate, is when you've discussed a pickup time and place with a buyer and then either they don't show up or when you call them to let them know that you are almost at the pickup place they inform you that they have already sold the product. If finally figured out how to avoid this. I put together an excel sheet of these folk's craigslist emails and when I find something that I want to buy I cross-check the list. You'd be surprised how often they show up on products where there is more than one seller. I just go with the alternate and save myself a headache.
@Cool-kaiden
2 жыл бұрын
I was 1 year old in 2013
@thepirategamerboy12
2 жыл бұрын
conglaturation
@212025510
9 ай бұрын
This policy of "customer is always right" is also present on Aliexpress. This is really necessary because the sellers are really sloppy. Either the product is wrong, it's damaged, the properties aren't as specified or the properties weren't specified at all. And they don't reply to questions. Most sellers are the sloppiest people ever.
@barbiesbehavingbadlyest_1916
8 жыл бұрын
Oh man! Stupidity reaches a new low! Thanks for sharing your hilarious stories. It makes me feel a little bit better to know I'm not the only one encountering mind-boggling stupidity on a regular basis.
@LycanWitch
7 жыл бұрын
watching this classic video, now that it's 3 years later in 2016, I found a growing trend with excuses individuals use who buy it now and don't pay, more and more as time goes on, i find that some buyers are blatant a-holes: I was selling a Canon Powershot Pro Camera and had an individual buy it now, then I get a message from them asking me if it included extra items not listed in the description nor pictured in the photos, so when I responded with "Listing only includes what's written in the description and as seen in the photos", they reply stating, "I do not want the camera." Then when they automatically got send a payment reminder, I got an additional message: "I DO NOT WANT THE CAMERA ANYMORE! CANCEL THE PURCHASE!".. so of course being irked by their attitude, I of course didn't cancel the transaction to let them off the hook, and instead let the did not pay dispute run it's course when it became available, while in the meantime, i relisted the camera and already sold and shipped it off to a different buyer who paid. This wasn't the first time i've gotten a cancelation request soon after selling an item with a Buy It Now. Literally I'll have someone just straight out tell me they do not want the item anymore. At first, I use to just cancel the transaction to be rid of the person and relist the item immediately, but these days since it happens more and more, I now ignore those requests and let the automatic Non-Paying Bidder resolution center claim run it's course while I relist the item in the background and sell it on.
@deeznuts4138
7 жыл бұрын
If a title says "genuine", I assume it is fake/scam.
@Galactipod
6 жыл бұрын
If a title says fake/scam, then it's genuine?
@hypnotised-clover
5 жыл бұрын
Judging by this comment and your user name, I can tell that you are an intellectual.
@jovetj
4 жыл бұрын
And if it says LEGAL you know it's not.
@sideoutside
4 жыл бұрын
Windows 10 Genuine Validated 100% Pirated Guaranteed!
@myriad1973
7 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you being able to keep your cool with people like that. I wouldn't have the patience. Now that the internet is mainstream, it is like a growing cancer.
@larryinc64
9 жыл бұрын
What is this video about? Will you let me watch it for free?
@knpstrr
8 жыл бұрын
Great video!To be fair, this is the reality of all business people. Running a business is easy until you start to deal with people! (whether employees or customers or suppliers)
@lettmons
4 жыл бұрын
I was selling a broken freezer for cheap once and my description said that it was broken in the first sentence, but I still had a person call and ask me if the freezer was in good working condition.
@MyIronman8
10 жыл бұрын
dont you love when they ask if you will trade for it ?? lol
@JesseSShaw
9 жыл бұрын
Colin Long I was offered a cedar cabinet for a hp laserjet 4300dtn. I was asking for cash only and that is how I replied. The individual still tried to talk me into a trade for something I was very much not interested in!
@fluxoff
5 жыл бұрын
I commend you for dealing with eBay problems and FAQs. I personally cant stand eBay. I sold off my music gear on craigslist from my apartment in order to keep it local to San Francisco, keep my prices very reasonable and to make a connection with my buyers. Except for sometimes sporadic sales, craigslist was a very good experience for me. I always provided my phone # and real email(rather than craigslist "anonymized") for them to be able to contact me with any problems within 30 days. (The only followup calls or emails i got were asking if I had more stuff to sell!) So CL selling was a good experience for me. Often I even raised listed prices to move inventory!
@Makatosh
7 жыл бұрын
had many things go "missing" in the post as a seller and have been forced to give a refund and get no item back, one costing around £100
@scriptguru8
3 жыл бұрын
I buy and sell on Craigslist a lot, and interestingly my experience is a little different. I've found that the kind of people contacting me highly depends on the kind of items I'm selling. For instance, people who buy a Nintendo DS flash-cart are normally very unreliable, while people who buy something more serious (like a shortwave radio) are much more reliable. Also often it's easy to tell if a person is not serious just by the style of the message. However, I've seen a few exceptions when people who live in "assisted living" conditions and who write pretty weird emails, still show up and buy what they wanted (but they never pick it up - they always request a meeting in a public place, probably it's a part of rules they have to obey). Where I live, the most common question on Craigslist is "Is it still available?", and usually those people never contact you again.
@sergioropo3019
4 жыл бұрын
Question #1 - Some people are just stupid. Question #2 - Some people are very stupid. Question #3 - Some people are stupid and greedy. Question #4 - Some people are stupid and naive. Question #5 - Some people are stupid and lazy. Question #6 - Some people are stupid, greedy, lazy and sometimes naive.
@BlackEpyon
7 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a few peripherals for my Tandy 1000 RSX (monitor, power switching centre, and 9-pin dot-matrix printer, all Tandy brand name, and some sourced VRAM chips to upgrade the video RAM and a math co-processor). I spent $93 USD on the items themselves, but with shipping and conversion rate, it ended up being around $400 CAD. This is what I spent my tax returns on. Most people would have put it to a modern game system or big-screen TV, but like many of you, I like vintage machines. Anyways, the people I interacted with on E-Bay were friendly and went out of their way to provide any extra information and/or pictures that I required. However, as a buyer, I actually had to ask for that information because they did not provide it. Most of them were people who recognized that they had obtained a piece of "vintage" hardware, and wanted to put it out there for somebody who could use it for their collection, but did not know much about the item themselves or of the systems they might have been used on. So, I had to ask questions to tease out of them what I needed to know to determine if I wanted to spend the money (again, shipping and conversion cost more than the items themselves.) The flip side of that, is that their lack of knowledge may have contributed to the low (initial) price tag, compared to some of the competing items I was looking at. I ended up getting the sourced VRAM chips from an Israeli supplier and the math co-processor from China, because it was cheaper to ship them internationally than from the US. And not only do I play DOS and early windows games on it, I program with it. I installed a second parallel port so that I'd have a dedicated port for the parallel interface that I'm building and developing the code for (the on-board has the external 5.25" floppy, ZIP drive, and printer). So for practising first principles of electronics and programming, AND for retro gaming, I'd say I've gotten my money's worth. One does NOT retro on a modern LCD monitor. It ruins the experience. >:-(
@lcrazy8l
7 жыл бұрын
Holy cow man, the difference in presentation between this and today (2013 to 2017) is immense. Congrats on finding your vibe on YT since back then.
@theherblin
6 жыл бұрын
When people try to haggle me I start putting the price above original price and go up from there.
@liveuntetheredmusepodcast4832
3 жыл бұрын
It's 2021, and 8-bit guy still has 100% positive feedback on ebay! Good job 8-bit guy! Also good job standing your ground on low ballers!
@encycl07pedia-
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they cut off reviews older than a certain time frame (a year?). And he's at 99.7% right now.
@kamertonaudiophileplayer847
5 жыл бұрын
I need to confess I ask these stupid questions just to make sure you are a real and a quick responder.
@vetteluvnh
7 жыл бұрын
As of 12/09/2016 there's 120 dislikes on this video. Basically 120 of the idiots & bottom feeders he's referring to disliked being called out. -Great video amigo!
@PolygonalThoughts
5 жыл бұрын
Yea it couldnt possibly be because the entire premise of this video is petty. Instead of making a video whining about this shit.... dont answer the question.
@encycl07pedia-
5 жыл бұрын
@@PolygonalThoughts Yeah, part of "the reality of doing business" is the BS you go through as a buyer or seller.
@MatLanders
9 жыл бұрын
I think you're a great guy. This video is wonderful because all of this is current frustrations with both eBay and Craigslist. People don't understand the value of time and being charitable with it often gets overlooked. There is too much sense of entitlement with people.
@Kenshindegozaru
8 жыл бұрын
You deserve a medal. I really hope things will become better for you and your busyness. You deserve it. Keep the nice work!
@sanosuke2999
7 жыл бұрын
You are a very patient man. :-)
@rvenden
5 жыл бұрын
Spot on, David! I have had many of the same experiences selling on eBay and CL! Love your videos. Best wishes to you!
@saibamoe
7 жыл бұрын
i love and respect sellers like you
@lamichka
8 жыл бұрын
People are just dumb.
@brentpolk2431
5 жыл бұрын
My number 1 issue with Ebay is that they get 10% on ANYTHING SOLD! The second issue is people breaking the device just to return it!
@Larkinchance
9 жыл бұрын
The buyer, often young, inexperienced or short on funds is not being responsible to themselves if they don't ask question regarding a potential purchase..You are honest but some vendors are not.. The questions they ask may not be the right questions or redundant but it really doesn't call for criticism. They are your customers. What if you went into a store and the owner rolled his eyes at the customer's every stupid question.. I know a ton of e-mail to answer can be a burden but perhaps a a polite form letter re-stating your business practices with the product description pasted in might be helpful for general questions.. Also a tip for you.. along with all the CRT TV's ending up at the dump are dozens of orphaned computers with nothing wrong with them except fuck-up operating systems. I have never found one that was physically broken. A dry period without rain yields the best results. These can be put up for sale for people hard pressed for funds.
@Naitrio
9 жыл бұрын
+Larkinchance i really want a crt monitor. well for free but ill have to do some hunting at the dump or something. i know this is irrelevant but yeah.
@gibbygano
8 жыл бұрын
+Larkinchance This was said above, but if a seller would lie in a listing, why wouldn't they like in an email? If they provided all of the information about the product that you need and you are literally just making them repeat themselves, you won't get far.
@gibbygano
8 жыл бұрын
I totally agree as to why you don't respond to these asinine questions. I recently sold my previous PC barebones for a pretty reasonable cost. It was the case, MB, CPU, RAM, and HDD. I surprisingly had someone who lived near where I worked and gave me what I asked for it, no haggling. I was blown away. All the while I kept getting emails from others asking for pictures, a discount, or only part of the package I was selling for a lower price. Thank goodness for that wonderful gentleman.
@Khether0001
7 жыл бұрын
I understand and absolutely agree with you Being on the other side though, I have no idea how to build a machine, and sometimes I hope the specialist could help me understand, the same way when I have a complex disease and the doctor might think my questions are unimportant or mundane, for me they are extremely important and made me very anxious having no idea and needing it so. But again, of course there is no time to be patient with everybody, this helped me to understand to be much more humble if I ever need to ask questions to a specialist, thank you! I love your channel!!! It is one of my very favorites on all KZitem! Cheers! :)
@wesofx8148
9 жыл бұрын
Yep. 50% of Craig's List customers just do not show up. Phenomena of human nature.
@UserName-jz8iv
8 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. You are very informative, and your content is compelling.
@mitduschzentrale
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here in Germany. My answer to the price question in mail or on the phone is to quote a slightly higher price than advertised. After that the conversation usually gets interesting :-)
@DoktorKoch
4 жыл бұрын
good advice! I will remember that one!
@nccrawford
7 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate how stupid people are.
@MoosesValley
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, if you think buyers are bad, you should try running a motel, or bed and breakfast, or similar where people live under your roof for nights or even weeks. Some people go out of their way to be as rude and obnoxious as possible to staff and other guests. Their motto is "I have paid for the apartment, I can do whatever the hell I like to it" and proceed to trash the apartment, have food fights, dump chips and food all over the floor, wipe their filthy hands on curtains, smoke in strictly no smoking areas, and worse. Much, much worse ! Some will endlessly annoy you with questions you preempted and answered when they arrived and which are answered in the "Welcome" brochure. Some people will bang on your door at 3 AM asking you to call their friends a cab, or for another toilet roll (even though there are 2 brand new rolls under in the bathroom vanity, or will come home late, or they lose their apartment key, or they come home as drunk as skunks and proceed to wake everyone else up. And if you dare to ask them to "please have respect for other guests", they will often become explosively angry and indignant. And it's not just young people - people in their 40's or 50's are often the worst. The very worst guests - those who are generally rude and obnoxious and also those who behave so badly and ignore so many warnings that you have to evict them - they are the ones who leave terrible feedback which is nothing but a pack of rotten lies and delusion. And the worst part is that the vast majority of review web sites will not remove false or unfair customer feedback, even when you prove it is completely false and unfair, even when you provide written signed statements from other guests, police reports, videos, photos, etc that prove you were super polite and they behaved like disgusting animals. Some people are obnoxious, delusional, stupid, rude compulsive liars, some people strive to be the worst they can possibly be, and nothing will change their behavior.
@notpurple
5 жыл бұрын
Dude, I feel your pain. I've had almost all these same experiences. YOU ARE NOT THE CRAZY ONE.
@johannesdolch
8 жыл бұрын
14:00 I agree that the Question "How much do you want for it?" sounds kinda dumb at first, but not if you take into account that usually the listed price is a base for negotiation. Even if it is not specified as such, very often sellers realize that nobody is willing to pay the asking price (it is usually on the higher end since the seller wants to get as much money as possible) and then they can be talked down. I understand that you personally try to post a fair price and then expect to get that but that is not how the common seller operates. As to the "Condition" question, maybe the problem is that your pictures are very professional and so people think that they are generic copy-pasted from somewhere else. You can list a thousand things on the pages. The thing is for every honest guy like you there are a hundred guys who do the exact same thing and try to scam people. Another example is the "Text me additional Pictures" Demand. Yes you posted photos but you can take them down any time you want, pretty easily or modify them any way you want. If you text them new pictures, then you have to either make them or at least they have proof on their phone that those are actually the pictures you send and claimed where real. In conclusion, basically all of your problems can be summed up into one problem: Expectations. People expect to either get scammed so they ask the same questions over and over again. Or they expect to be able to talk down the price e.g. by showing up with cash and make a take it or leave it offer of their own. It sucks but the Internet is a dirty place full of scumbags, morons and shady characters. And if people don't know you, they tend to assume that you are one of them.
@MidagedgamerBlogspotter
7 жыл бұрын
It's Ebay not a car dealer. The seller sets the price and that's what it is unless he changes the auction. Ebay actually has a rule against negotiating outside of the auction terms. Real simple, you don't feel right about a seller don't buy the item. Craigslist, screw that, nothing but scams on both sides.
@warrenmcclure7819
7 жыл бұрын
One of the questions I get asked most on Craigslist is if I can ship my laptop or whatever Im selling somewhere even when I stated in the post that I wont ship anywhere. Do you get asked that often on Craigslist? Great video by the way!
@JaqiesGadgets
8 жыл бұрын
oh gawd the story of my life. all too familiar. Add to these the rampant sexism, cheuvanism, and misogyny when they find out I'm a woman and that's been my life in the computer industry.
@techtech7803
6 жыл бұрын
JaqiesGadgets omg your a woman?! Get back in the kitchen!
@picasso566
8 жыл бұрын
I'm so tempted now to find all your eBay listings and ask "What condition is it in?" HAHA Thanks for your videos. I ended up on your video about restoring yellowed plastic, but since I learned programming on an Apple IIe I watched several of your videos. Good luck with your business and personal museum.
@SupraViperhead
8 жыл бұрын
I was going to get into the business of fixing cellphones, computers and TVs , since I already do it as a hobby. My issue has been that people are usually dumbfounded when it comes to the cost of repair. I've had people ask me if I could fix things for just the cost of the parts and I've had people ask me if I could fix something for a fixed amount, which turns out to be less than what the parts actually cost. I've had other people ask me if I could get a new screen and digitizer for their $20 StraightTalk phone. I tell them just buy a replacement phone and transfer everything over.
@Browningate
9 жыл бұрын
As an ebay and craiglist buyer and seller, I can fully back up The iBook Guy's findings. The answer to almost every ebay question is "read the description" and half of your Craiglist responses (sometimes even more) will be no-shows.
@BlooMule
4 жыл бұрын
Just found 8 bit guy recently, and as someone who sells often on C-list and Facebook, I love his responses to dumb questions. My answer when someone asks for details that are in the ad is to reply "all answer to your questions can be found here: " and link to the original ad.
@AzureArc
7 жыл бұрын
I picked an interesting time to watch this video, I've got a product auction going on ebay right now and I've had two of the top 6 questions. Someone trying to lowball me an offer even though he's already placed a bid and there's not really much I can do even if I wanted to. And someone who asked me details on the product that were listed on the listing page. The worst part about the second guy is that he also asked for details on shipping costs to get the item shipped from the US to Kenya where he lives. I am Australian, I live in Australia and the product is listed as only being available in Australia because prices to ship such a heavy object outside of Australia would make buying a used version of it rather than just getting a brand new one completely pointless.
@petermoeller5901
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, so funny! The average ebay/online buyer seems the same in all countries.
@WR3ND
7 жыл бұрын
I often want very specific things for what I'm working on that just aren't available much at all, so I have to resort to services like eBay sometimes. I wish more sellers were like you. As a buyer, I'm looking for what I want at the price I'm willing to pay, and will generally just do the buy-it-nows. If I have to contact the seller ahead of time with questions and whatnot, it generally isn't worth my time, nor do I want to support and encourage incompetent middleman sellers and muckrakers. The few times I have contacted sellers, even at their offer within their listings, I often haven't heard back from them.
@S2Tubes
8 жыл бұрын
Of all the things you mentioned, the worst one for me is people agreeing to turn up, and then not. When I used to sell things with pickup, I'd meet in a car park of the local shops, a five minute drive away, and I'd get people to call me WHEN they had arrived. Of course I never sold on Craigslist to random people, most of my in person sales were from a forum where it was slightly less anonymous.
@Larkinchance
9 жыл бұрын
In your town and all over the country, brick and mortar stores are closing causing a continuing rise in unemployment. Be grateful, you are ahead of the curve.
@pow1983
9 жыл бұрын
The most common problem with eBay auctions as a buyer: - Too much information on items where there doesnt need to be - Lack of information where its needed - Wording, keep the language simple so theres a chance they read and understand it. - Inconsistent font sizes, text alignment and colour usage - Advertising additional items within the auction - Unecessary use of icons to highlight specifications It causes a chaos to the eye so unfortunately people dont spot things easily, half the time you're reading Do's and Dont's from the seller when they legally havent got a leg to stand on. The pictures may be fantastic and telling a story in their own right but it doesnt detract from the mess (not helped by eBays truely awful design). We seem to have gone back in time to a 90's DTP/Website era where every word had to be a different colour or bouncing all over our screens. Make the auction simple and easy to read. You've broken a few rules and I'm just telling you from a Buyers perspective.... of course this video is 2 years old but this design is still common.
@lourencoandradeesousa4782
4 жыл бұрын
This is the funnyest video you've done so far. Had a laph. I just SO understand you!
@KentuckyRanger
7 жыл бұрын
Selling on eBay is such a pain! Allot of people want stuff for free, and they'll pull all kinds of crap to scam me. I really feel for sellers who do this on a regular basis.
@spunkyspaz
3 жыл бұрын
Late comment but still relevant today: I know I'm in the minority here, but I HATE the new way of buying stuff over the internet, paying online, waiting to get it, sometimes finding out I don't want it (for many reasons), ect. I much, MUCH prefer just going to the store and getting something, which is becoming harder and harder to do because online shopping is replacing store shopping. Don't get me wrong, I have had positive experiences with online shopping but store shopping is better in my opinion and it's sad to see it being replaced by online instead of just supplemented.
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