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@LouisPhilip9
Жыл бұрын
Can you speak on the pros / cons of recharging single use alkaline batteries as I have done a few times ?
@waynegnarlie1
Жыл бұрын
I found this video very useful. It confirms the test results we made, except we drained them at the 5ma average load our product requires. In actual use, the Lithium Energizer's gave 6-8 months of typical 4hr daily use. None of the other batteries even made it 25% there.
@WildCaptures
Жыл бұрын
I was hopeful that the rechargeable lithium batteries would be better I spend about 70/80$ dollars a year on single use lithiums for all my trail cameras. Great test 👍
@donaldharlan3981
Жыл бұрын
Chinese batteries are manufactured to different standards, based on their environment. Batteries for use in topical/humid countries, usually don't last long, so they are manufactured with economy in mind. For example; handling wet/moist phone, in the rain, drains your battery faster, than non rainy days. 🪫 Also you have educated me: the world lithium supply is short, they are using lower quality lithium. In fact Elon Musk has been selling dirty lithium, which requires expensive chemical purifying, and is also inferior quality. 🔋 Please cut off Tesla from MY lithium supply completely.
@carlbrown5150
Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to reachable alkaline? Rayovac had those years ago.!!😉
@markadkins673
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more content on smaller battery systems. Rechargeable AA, AAA, etc. And even small battery banks and small solar panels
@__WJK__
Жыл бұрын
I second that! Battery tests on the smaller battery sizes (including alternative chemistries) would be a great addition to the channel, and pease continue testing cold weather performance as well!
@alotaku
Жыл бұрын
Mee toooooo
@stinkycheese804
4 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of youtube? They have videos about that. Already. I'm a bit confused though, what do you mean when you wrote the "AA" or do you not understand that this size was used in the video?
@hipsteralex6761
Жыл бұрын
Yooooo, this is why this guy is my homie.
@bobbastian760
Ай бұрын
Test was deeply flawed, see other comments.
@EQINOX187
Жыл бұрын
I used to use the white EBL Ni-MH version all the time mostly in my PC gaming mouse however the issue i always ran into is they would never last long before they started to trigger the low power on the mouse, so then i went for the Black EBL lithium that you need to plug in and while performance was great 2 of the batteries had the little USB plug fail, this was actually a good highlight of the customer support as EBL refunded the cost of the 2 batteries over a year after purchase, eventually I moved on to the EBL red and they have been fantastic and my gaming mouse takes 2 AAs and last about a month and that's daily use for many hours. One trap people fall into however is these lithium AA rechargeable s are designed for low drain applications and if you try to use them in a high drain they will not work well as the internal protection will limit, those LED lights actually use quite a lot of current and so the flickering you see is the power converter struggling to maintain enough current, single use lithium on the other hand still has a internal board but without the charge components it can be dedicated to increased power output. One inconsistency with your test is that lights are never a good measure of battery life when comparing different battery technology, the lithium will drain until the cell can no longer output a stable 1.5v due to the 4.2v lithium cell reaching its min capacity, Ni-MH on the other hand will just keep draining until every drop of power is gone and so in a light test it makes the Ni-MH look good because the light is still glowing but in reality the voltage left has more than likely fallen well below any usable voltage for any electronic use
@fobiastate6815
9 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the insights it's really helpful. I am planning to buy an Orochi V2 wireless razer gaming mouse and initially i was planning to go for Duracell Nimh rechargeable batteries but i'm probably gonna run into going into low power mode too early as well if i go for those batteries since they have 1.2V. I wanted to ask you, since EBL blacks have more capacity in comparison to the red ones, why did you make the change to the red ones, is it only because they have this weird micro usb to charge them with and the usb plugs kind of sound unreliable on the long run or were there any other reasons?
@EQINOX187
9 ай бұрын
@@fobiastate6815 the EBL black are decent and the 2 i still have still hold a good charge but yeah the main reason i went with the red was due to the micro USB on the blacks, the USB is not a bad idea but i think it is not properly mechanically supported and the charge lead they gave is basically 2" long and all the batteries plug into it and so end up hanging from the micro plug and well of the ones i had 2 of USB plug failed, i did think just to go with the black ones again but then thought well if they fail again i will have to deal with it. The red ones are slightly lower capacity but not enough to, matter but over all a far better design as it comes with a USB charge dock that you just push the batteries into when they need charged ( a lot like the old nimh ). One quirk with the 1.5v lithium batteries is that they will output a constant 1.5v until they no longer can due to the internal cell getting to low and then they will internally switch off, so you will find that your mouse will not warn you when the batteries are low and it will just stop working.
@fobiastate6815
9 ай бұрын
@@EQINOX187 Hi thanks once again. I think i'd rather go with not being warned about low battery over almost constantly being warned about it even when it's not really the case. Idk what kind of power optimizations mouse producers go for when they switch to low power mode but i don't want my mouse to feel clunkier or feel like some cheap wireless mouse. I just want to have an overall decent wireless mouse experience, am by no means a shooter gamer or a competitive gamer in any way. Ideally i'd probably also go with the reds but smallest pack i could find is with 8 pieces right now and it's simply unnecessarily too much which then would cost me 40 euros for rechargeable batteries : ) Anyways thanks again for the helpful infos ^_^
@stinkycheese804
4 ай бұрын
Except that when your goal is to power lights with them, it would be madness to test in something other than the lights you need to use them in. Besides, that is still testing battery life, but apparently not in your target use, so you too, will need to test in your specific devices. There is no universal test that will tell you how each individual device design handles voltage drop. Also, no those LED lights do not use much current at all in the grand scheme of things. Math PLEASE! They ran 27 hours off ~ 2000mAH cells, a mere 74mA avg is quite low compared to most devices besides clocks and remote controls. It is true that as the NiMH voltage drops, the lights will output less, and this is why they last that much longer, but there will be several hours when they still continue to output a usable amount of light, before becoming too dim for that last few % of their capacity. This is often desirable on a light instead of facing sudden darkness without warning.
@felaxchow207
Жыл бұрын
I would like to say that you definitely hit this one out of the park. I think the reason why the rechargable lithium AA fall short is due to conversion losses from 3.6 volts to 1.5 volts nominal. Compared to a designed specific device that can use a protected single NMC 18650 cell and is able to make full use of its discharge curve in temperatures low as -20° C. I too use AA, AAA, and 9 volt variant of the single use lithum batteries for test instruments that are used in low temperature enviroments around the -40° C territory and it bites really hard on the wallet when it comes time to replace them. Even with that expense, I have save hundreds of dollars in repair costs of my various test equipment caused by leaky alkaline batteries.
@skidaddledude1997
Жыл бұрын
If the manufacturers could improve the voltage conversion electronics for the lithium cells these should be the winner.
@rfvtgbzhn
7 ай бұрын
@@skidaddledude1997that probably would also make them even more expensive though.
@3GreeneBJ
2 ай бұрын
Are you saying - telling me/us that as the intrinsic output of Lithium is 3.6V that there's an inverter within each "cell" ? Oh surely not! Isn't there a chemical way to get what you want from the lithium in this case. And hey, what makes the difference between primary and secondary operation of lithium? Do I sound like a dope? The advance in technology is making fools of us all. You can never say never... !! Explain please BjG
@traviss589
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the envelope Nimh batteries for over 10 years and I love them.
@anthonymarino4260
Жыл бұрын
mine are more then 10. years. work great
@ralphsmith8350
Жыл бұрын
What is an envelope battery??
@hishamalias1192
6 ай бұрын
I know about eneloope brand but not envelope.. usually use envelope to a letter not power source
@photoniccannon2117
Ай бұрын
@@ralphsmith8350 Autocorrect, I think they meant eneloop.
@subject2change313
Жыл бұрын
I do realize this was a departure from your normal reviews but I must admit it was very informative and I found it to be intriguing enough to hold my attention throughout.
@markmonroe7330
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. A comparison with others such as the Enloop Pro or standard Enloop would be fun. Also some tests with various 18650’s.
@__WJK__
Жыл бұрын
I second that, please test 18650s in both Li-ion & NIMH chemistries. --And please continue to do cold weather testing!
@ItsEverythingElse
Жыл бұрын
@@__WJK__ Do they even make Ni-MH 18650s any more?
@OnusBones
Жыл бұрын
Check out the channel "Project Farm" for NiMH and Li-ion battery tests!
@lazerusmfh
Жыл бұрын
@@ItsEverythingElseeneloop and eneloop pro (25% more capacity but significantly lower number of cycles 500 vs 2100 and they self discharge faster 85% after 1 yr vs 90%). Ikea has their own house brand rechargeable called LADDA that is very economically priced and comparable to the vanilla eneloop. And batteries are rated to perform down to -20c Stick to nimh lion is a gimmick and will perform worse
@bcr003
Жыл бұрын
@@__WJK__ never heard of an 18650 nimh. Not me at least
@SpinStar1956
Жыл бұрын
I'm confused (and an electrical engineer): In both tests the lithium got flaky within 1 hour in both tests; so I was hoping you would have monitored the voltage with a meter during the discharge by slipping some fine-wires into the battery-compartment contacts. The reason is that you stated "some electronics have to have the 1.5Vs" but if the lamp was flickering, either it is defective or you were dipping below 1.5V sine the lamp assumes alkaline-battery usage. Finally, I really appreciate your tests as I was going to buy the lithiums-- so you really saved me a bunch--so thank you! If people have the ability to outboard the battery-packs, you can add one more of the NiMH to fix the voltage problem; sometimes you can modify the wiring and just add a single battery holder. This trick will also solve the cold weather voltage droop.
@3GreeneBJ
2 ай бұрын
I am guessing that it was the electronics that didn't like the cold. Even the clock won't like that much! The load needs to be a passive resistance. Something realistic for an AA cell. What would you say? 50 to 100mA as a compromise?
@johnpcunningham
2 ай бұрын
I saw the same flicker in a 60 day lantern using D cell Lithium rechargeable. The flicker is due to the internal buck converter frequencies. I took my lantern apart and simply soldered in a 22uf capacitor across the +\- leads and the flicker went away. For you EEs out there I’m sure you know why. I bet a 10uf or others would probably work as well. Cap has no effect when going back to alkaline batteries.
@photoniccannon2117
Ай бұрын
NiZN batteries are another alternative, they have a natural cell voltage of around 1.6 volts and don't need an internal voltage regulator. They do have some of their own drawbacks, namely that the self-discharge rate increases after about 20-30 cycles, but they have relatively comparable capacity to most lithium-ion rechargeable AAs.
@stephenjones9153
24 күн бұрын
Strange how the majority of Phones,Tablets and Laptops now use Lithium batteries for there superior run time and capacity compared to NiMH and NiCads. Also here in the UK a KZitem channel did a test on the EBL batteries and they tested the worst out of all the brands, Panasonic came out top.
@schneider4414
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative, especially for those of us who don't have a large lithium generator, but use outdoor cameras or small battery powered accessories.
@tedbellWRV
Жыл бұрын
I've used the EBL lithium rechargeable batteries for several years now. I initially went to lithium for two main reasons: 1) alkaline batteries often leak and ruin the device - especially in low discharge devices (e.g. clocks), where they can be working for a year or more. 2) To reduce land-fill waste. One the past 3 or 4 years, I've used dozens of EBL lithium batteries in several devices around the house. I use them in clocks, TV/Roku remotes, Christmas lights, etc. However, I use the "black jacket" USB charging version of the EBL. Each 4-pack of the black jacket USB charging version comes with a USB "octopus" charging cable allowing 4 batteries to charge per USB charging port. I had a lot better luck with the black USB version than the red jacket batteries. The black jacket is rated at 3300 kWh, or 10% more than the red jacket. They seem to charge more reliably and I get longer life. I tried the red version like you used and the white version (Fuvaly branded), with a magnetic tip for charging - but neither was reliable, So far, I've never had a black jacket EBL battery stop taking a charge. One aspect of the rechargeable batteries you did not mention is the output in amps. You can find this spec listed for some of the batteries. The black jacket version is rated at a 2A discharge rate by over-current protection per spec on Amazon. High discharge devices like a travel waterpic or electronic toys need more oomph than the lithium batteries can provide and only alkaline can suffice. Finally, I notice certain devices, like my Ambient outdoor weather station, specifically recommend to use lithium, but not rechargeable. I have a single-use lithium in the weather station that backs up the solar panel. So far it has been working for about 2 to 3 years. Even in outdoor temperatures that have ranged from 115F in Tucson to -10F in the mountains of Idaho.
@andrewp.schubert2417
8 ай бұрын
Duracell copper tops have ruined so many of my flashlights and other devices
@1badmini1
6 ай бұрын
this guy is using 2800mah......you can get 8000mah and they will outlast the nimh and alkaline 🤦🤦🤦 and hes suppose to be smart.😂😂😂😂
@WhenTheManComesAround
Жыл бұрын
Great to see ya!! My brother and I were literally talking about not seeing you for awhile about 45 minutes ago. So it's great to know you're still rockin 👍👍😁
@imoldandyoureinmyway
Жыл бұрын
One thing you should consider adding is information about the voltage discharge curve. Many devices use this to tell you when your battery is low. If the discharge curve doesn't match the curve used in designing the device, you can be stranded with the sudden drop off curve of some battery types. Mostly not an issue, but for some applications ( avalanche transcievers) very important.
@Anonymous-i9i
Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you! I have been using the same set of Panasonic Eneloop Ni-MH AA and AAA batteries for 10 years and they still hold up great. I was considering switching to Li-ion AA batteries, but after watching this video, I will stick to my good old Ni-MH's. Thanks!
@frankenfoamy
4 ай бұрын
Enjoyable review. I have tested a few brands. The first thing to mention is these 1st generation 1.5 V lithium cells give a full 1.5 volts then nothing. This means the weakest cell in a group determines when the entire pack can produce any voltage. Cycling the batteries a few times before testing gave significantly better results. ( testing on 500 mA load) The 2nd generation have a 1.1 volt cut off which gives a brief warning when the cells are empty. The largest capacity, 3600 mWh gave the worse mAh test 1566 mAh. The 3500 mWh cells were consistently over 2200 mAh. Devices that can operate over a large range of voltage will test better with Nimh and primary batteries. I was testing for wildlife cameras which would stop working without notice. I estimate the time they work and charge the batteries a week before their anticipated exhaustion.
@damonried1720
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. While a change from SoGens, it's still related to emergency electrical power which is why I follow this channel. I would have liked to see a mention of the fully charged shelf life of these rechargeable batteries. Alkaline batteries are ready to go years after purchase which makes them invaluable in rarely used emergency equipment. I suppose these rechargeables shine in frequently used devices.
@__WJK__
Жыл бұрын
Rechargeables have actually come along way regarding idle self-discharge rates, and while they might not have the same ultra-low self-dischrage rates as alkalines, some are actually quite impressive.
@eugene4817
Жыл бұрын
I switched to Ikea's NiMH LADDA AAs and AAAs a while ago and am very happy with them, always carry a spare batt just in case, they don't discharge for a long time on their own and proved to be as reliable as I ever hoped for. They are still made in Japan batts too.
@StudioGalvan
9 ай бұрын
I use these for my Camera Flashes. They'll last an entire wedding. 😃
@jghall00
8 ай бұрын
I just bought some. I think they're rebadged Eneloops.
@PerilousPaddy
7 ай бұрын
@@jghall00 Yes they are manufactured in the factory that makes Eniloop and on a video that I watched they run the same power/amps/time so I have 36 of them I cycle through
@freeman-1776
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Yes, I would like to see videos on some of these smaller products. Like you said, most of us do not have the time to run these kinds of test and yet, I think all of us have been duped by these battery company scams. Personally, I usually modify the products I buy in order to get a better battery performance. It boggles the mind that we are still using AA, AAA, C, D sizes when we have rechargeable Lithium battery packs that are much better. I feel like the traditional battery companies are keeping us in the stone age.
@michaellemon8287
10 ай бұрын
I don't think the traditional battery companies are keeping us in the stone age - it's just that lithium rechargeable batteries are not superior in all respects to traditional batteries. For example, they are more expensive, more dangerous, less universal, more difficult to manage. It is not cost effective nor environmentally friendly to use rechargeable lithium batteries in low drain devices like clocks or tv remotes where a set of alkaline batteries run for several years. This is just a different technology with different pros and cons.
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate seeing a Review like this Something Relatable and Different. I would actually use this in my personal setup.
@iReturnV1deotapes
Жыл бұрын
You should make a followup comparing these to the Eneloop AAs. Theyre supposed to be the gold standard in rechargable AA cells. I would be very curious how they compare.
@practicalguy973
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Eneloops are better than some thats for sure. I had some Amazon brand NIMH many years ago in a headlamp on a winter hike and when it was -10F outside the light stopped working at the end of the hike at night, my friend had Eneloops in his and working no issues. I looked it up and Eneloops were built with better contact points on the caps of the cells and claimed to perform in freezing temps. So been using Eneloops ever since, they also have more than twice the cycle life of the EBL in this video and better low self discharge.
@HutchinsonJC
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Eneloop is all I've used for a lot of years. Even before Panasonic bought Eneloop it was my go to.
@Guardian_Arias
Жыл бұрын
Eneloop are NiMH batteries and are the gold standard BUT if you do some digging the same cell makes it way into some other brands. For example some Amazon Basics NiMH with a specific color scheme used to be the same exact cell as the Eneloop cells. For a while there Amazon was tossing around all kinds of rechargeable battery chemistries from different origins but i think they have settled with NiMH sourced from Panasonic. But not sure at the moment.
@WizzRacing
Жыл бұрын
I been using them for years. As I got tired of buying 25 packs at home depot..The AA-AAA are still taking full charges 4 years later.. So they saved me $200.00 compared to the use once and toss it out brand... Just buy a good charger like XTAR...They are programmed to get the best out of them...
@williamparker8318
Жыл бұрын
Ok, I've been using the lowly Eneloop (Panaonic) AA 1900 mAh 1.2V Ni-MH batteries for a number of years. They are 3.06 each. Now when I did research on the larger EBL 3000 and 28OO, I found that because of the larger diameter, they won't fit in some products. So I stuck with the Eneloop. Now being rechargeable, this is no big issue in lighting, you just charge every day or every other day. And this is no big deal if you have the right stuff. I use those yellow D Battery shells that use 3 AA each and my lantern takes three D's. It can do well with 9 AA's in this case even though the cost comes down to 27.21 in batteries. (The EBL 3000 are 42.75 for nine and the 2800mAh are 16.86 for nine). I'm going to get 2100 ish charges (hopefully). Yes I had to buy the special charger. I have a portable solar panel and a solar generator. So I'm getting a middle of the road battery (cost / performance wise ) and a battery that will easily fit any product out there. Cheers.
@shaunhall960
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor! I've been curious about nickel hydride batteries for some time. Reviewing more types would be great.
@philindeblanc
Жыл бұрын
Dont waste your time...Just buy the Ikea AA, AA as long as they are the Japanese makes, they are Panasonic/Enloop equals. Sometimes Amazon brand is rebranded Enloops as well. FYI, if you use high discharge items, like a camera flash, the lithium is the way to go, as powertools use them for the discharge-ability of the 1.5volt multiplier. This is still decent info. I may prefer to use Alkaline in my camp lights or remote controls.
@scottlopez9366
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and a nice twist from your other subjects. You captivated me the entire time and brought back my old electric RC plane days. One additional fact you didn't touch on was electric charge costs though it would have to be very high to make a difference. Thanks for the subject surprise! You're #1! !
@LipsMalloy
Жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned, I'd love to see a comparison of several brands. I have some that have built-in usbc charging, and some that use a magnetic usb attachment. I've tried EBL, Soluser, Tenergy and others. Thanks for doing this review - very helpful.
@mc9551
Жыл бұрын
Great test. Would be nice to see you test other AA batteries. One time use & rechargeable. Thanks
@props-model-shop
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I glad to see how these rechargabls lith performed/lack of performed.
@genevievebakkensen86
Жыл бұрын
I switched to rechargeable batteries several years ago and love them. They are initially a investment but as you demonstrated much cheaper in the long run. I always have extra backup batteries charged so when a lantern or candle dimmed there is a freshly charged battery ready to go just make sure all batteries are equal in strength when replacing and charging
@kbjerke
Жыл бұрын
This was a refreshing change from the usual "Solar Generator Review." We all need so *many* different styles and sizes of small batteries that the choices are overwhelming. For my "tactical" flashlights, however, I try to select ones that use the 18650 style of battery. Thanks for the video!
@thomasyung9162
Жыл бұрын
I think the advertised cycle life are very optimistic and don't trust them. My personal experience with NiMh batteries are that they fail to charge before the cycles are consumed. I enjoyed the video keep them coming!
@laneyemmons4257
Жыл бұрын
I was very curious about this. Thank you for running this test.
@ranig2848
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would love to see comparison to some other AA lithium batteries.
@kengentry970
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I really liked the review. I've easily spent $10000 based on your testing. Never been disappointed ..ever. ...really liked the topic of rechargeables also .
@justabyker8243
Жыл бұрын
I very much did appreciate this comparison as sub freezing temps are a common issue for me and I had wondered about what would be a better investment for power.
@marcfruchtman9473
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this evaluation. Somewhat surprising results. I had been eyeballing those EBLs for a while!
@kele1264
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this video. This is very responsible testimony that we need waaaay better rechargeable batteries so that fewer batteries wind up in landfills. I really want to use rechargeables, but they have to give me what I need above what I already buy (Energizer lithium, same as you showed here). Thank goodness I just don't use a lot of batteries to begin with. I do have those camping lanterns stationed around the house for power outages. Glad that doesn't happen often. Thanks for this awesome video! ODIN!!!! THOR!!!!
@markgigiel2722
10 күн бұрын
I'm a old 2 way radio guy. We switched to NiMH for a couple of years to power our fleet of (Motorola) radios because it was the latest to replace NiCad. If someone left their radio in the truck in cold weather, the capacity dropped by a HUGE amount unless it was warmed up again. We stopped using them for that reason (safety). Just my personal experience.
@eatmorenachos
Күн бұрын
A very detailed analysis that's still concise and gets to the point. Thank you!
@theyellowtiburon
Жыл бұрын
I checked and did hear "clockes 😀. I have lots of rechargeable batteries and recharge them with solar. I would have thought the Lithium would have been the best. Now I don't have to buy any. Thanks! Been watching you a long time!
@D_Pete
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! THANK YOU!! Have wondered for a very long time now just how these lithium rechargeable fared in the ways you have tested. I am long time Eneloop user but really need the 1.5v for various camera duties. BUT... a little disappointed and concerned after I see the way they performed in your tests. Thank you again!! Keep up the good work! :)
@joeglennaz
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this video because I’ve often wondered about rechargeable batteries. The results are very shocking. I would be interested to see you test additional brands of lithium rechargeable’s.
@athiker7209
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. I stocked up on EBL Ni-MH batteries, D, AA, and AAA. They have been working great and I have a system of rotating, so I don't accidently over use a set of batteries. About 1/4 way through the video, I was on Amazon, saving the lithium rechargeable batteries to my list. By 3/4 ways through the videos, I was deleting them from my list. I clearly followed your tests and thought you covered all the bases that most common users would put their batteries through. I feel kind of lucky that I purchased these NI-MH, and a good amount of them for all my under counter lighting. They recharge fairly quickly and I have enough in the bins to change out the batteries when guests are coming over and I want all lighting to be bright, otherwise I change batteries, when the lights becomes dim. See you next time!
@Sylvan_dB
Жыл бұрын
Great testing, thanks! You experience agrees completely with my much less rigorous observations. I have a few of the "individual USB socket" rechargeable AA and AAAs, and I found exactly what you described: they work in equipment that does not tolerate NiMH. In addition I have a a few things that end up ruining NiMH cells because they end up reverse charging a cell in the set while it works on just the remaining cells. I also use the "USB socket" lithium cells in those because the circuitry in each cell protects it.
@Banagal
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video indeed. I shared this video with my husband because he has multiple cameras that need batteries. He's had rechargeable and non-rechargeable batteries.
@ecleveland1
Жыл бұрын
I used Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries, AAA, in my digital audio recorder for college. The same pair of batteries lasted 5 years,2013-2018, with no hiccups and they are still going as of today.04/2023. I bought two pair of the Eneloop batteries, one pair for my recorder and one for my wife's. This was by far the best money I've ever spent on batteries.
@highlander723
11 ай бұрын
I know this comment's a little late but there's one fundamental flaw in your testing. I've used these rechargeable lithium ion batteries for quite some time now and they have one major weakness You really can't use them in series configuration. One of the major selling points about these batteries is they provide 1.5 volts until they are drained There's no downgrade from 1.5 to say 1.1 It's 1.5 or nothing. So as a result your capacity is going to be dependent on the weakest battery because as soon as that battery drained It doesn't matter if the other two still have capacity The voltage will drop immediately thus turning off your lamp. I use these batteries in a parallel configuration and they are remarkable I swear by them but in a series configuration forget it
@Pizzpott
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Every battery I own (apart from the two in my Central heating Control Unit which are plain Lithium Energizer batteries) are Energizer 2300mA Ni-Mh AA and AAA's. I have loads of them and have three chargers to charge them. Recently I have been considering getting Lithium rechargeable as in some cases the 1.5v might be better, for example my wireless keyboard and mouse which sometimes has issues being 12 feet away from my PC and TV. I was all set to send for 8 xAA's and a charger, but decided to check YT for any tests - hence your excellent upload. You have saved me a lot of money, about £70 as there is no way on this earth will I even entertain the possibility of changing from Ni-Mh now. Thank you again. As an aside, I have three of those camping lanterns, two as emergency lights in the house and one in the boot (trunk) of my car, Batteries are still holding enough charge after two years, for the lamps to work brightly - I am due to discharge and recharge them all this spring.
@tdata545
Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry; I haven't seen a proper winter in 5 years now, and I REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE THAT TREND. Grew up in Chicago, lived there for 27 years, and now live on the Coast of Mississippi.
@johnross6314
Жыл бұрын
Hobo Tech publishes yet another perfect timed video. Been fiddling around with EBL white and reds AA. Trash cans with electric lids, rechargeable under counter lights for kitchen, solar deck lighting, weather/wind/rain remote outdoor sensor, and yard solar charged spot lights. Both types worked well last summer in hot temps. No degradation. My sloppy tech testing in cold winter weather, plus inside seem similar results as Hobo The Gr8
@ToddGajewski
Жыл бұрын
Great review Tom, how about a test between the Enloop & Enloop Pro Nimh rechargeable batteries? I use these in my cellular game cameras and really like the performance & longevity!
@kevinhoney1385
Жыл бұрын
Some rechargeable lithium battery's say they have to be drained and recharged several times to get the full use or time out of them. great vid bro.
@joeglennaz
Жыл бұрын
Hey brother, it’s Joe down the road at I-17 and Jomax. Just wanted to say hello. Hope you’re doing well. As always, love the videos. One of these days I’m gonna run out to Quartzsite to meet you.
@enthusiastguy2799
6 ай бұрын
I started writing this comment while near the end of your video pointing out that for Xbox controllers for instance you can't reliably use 1.2v batteries, but then noticed you also made that note in the video about consumers like this. I actually got some 1.5v lithiums that charge individually. They come with a 4 split usb cable, so you can charge 4 at once on 1 usb port. I have not observed a difference from using Duracells or those. They seem to last the same, about 2 weeks while playing daily for an hour or so. Very nice video, thanks!
@RichieRich-l6s
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, I have several led flickering candles in the bathrooms for night lights. They have automatic 8hr timers built in. I've used every type of AA imaginable and wound up using reg. batteries from the Dollar Store 😊 8 ea. For $1.25. They aren't rechargeable of course, but they seem to have good longevity..Enjoy your shows..!! Cheers, Rich
@bendercs
Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. Always wondered how well these performed for the premium. I too use the Energizer lithium for outdoor applications with excellent results. I also have a boat load of Eneloop nimh batteries some success indoors. Unfortunately my portable ham radios don't like them due to the voltage.
@brightlightdun
Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you are the first one to do these tests. The results are shocking. Thanks for sharing.❤
@rodolfopinheiro
Жыл бұрын
After trying multiple AAs brands I can say with confidence that EBLs are not good. They are fine if you use the once in a blue moon. However, if you use them on a weekly basis they won't last more than 2 years. Mine didn't even last 100 cycles. I do use batteries weekly for some small radios we use at my church to translate from Spanish to English. I recommend either Bonai or Eneloop instead.
@payecarrillo6290
Жыл бұрын
I bought the EBL white battery about 2 years ago with charger. Good deal on Amazon and I also purchased the 9-volt EBL batteries with charger. I am so pleased with them I'am glad I made the right choice watching this video. Awesome job! Thank you!
@sweetsuccesstrading5097
Жыл бұрын
Great to see you back, doing Videos. I’m sure you took a Well deserved Break away from everything to Enjoy Life 😊
@matthoward1174
Жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with the EBL Ni-MH 2800s. and the Amazon Basics version as well. I used a bunch in single AA outdoor solar lights, out all year round, summer in the high 90s, winter down to 0 F. I tried 3 different brands of the 1.5 lithiums, including EBL, all 4 packs with the octopus cord, and they all SUCKED. None are worth having, or worth even the minute amount of space they take up. Great video,.. interesting subject !!!
@shubinternet
Жыл бұрын
Todd from Project Farm has some great videos for stuff like this, but I think you're giving him some good competition! Please do keep it up!
@jasonhill9088
Жыл бұрын
I use Kratax lithium AA rechargeable batteries. They were the best on the market at the time of my research. I've never did any extensive testing in the cold, but they work great for what in need them for. Maybe you could put them to the test.
@johnviera3884
4 ай бұрын
you have to test the NIMH on whatever you were planning to do. I don’t use them to keep a lightbulb on all night. I don’t think anybody does. I use them on a portable audio recorder which I need to have ready to go at any time. They last 12 -14 hours per charge. That’s solid performance. They save me tons of money over throwing away alkalines. I found that leaving any battery inside some devices will sometimes drain them. it’s a good idea to test that out. It’s an inconvenience but I always take them out when not in use.
@sloanNYC
Жыл бұрын
I've come to really like having a set of 8 USB-C AA rechargeable because they can be charged anywhere and they go in my backpack. Then I have NiMH for stuff at the house.
@JoJo-Chris
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more rechargeable battery testing esp. AA
@imtall31
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is more of a general use type of review. People are more likely to spend $20 on rechargeable batteries than thousands on a sogen. And if you already have a sogen you probably want some rechargeable AA's and AAA's. Great review.
@stephenreese5921
10 ай бұрын
I wish that you had performed this test a few years ago when I was consuming multiple packs of AA and AAA batteries!
@NatureZone101
Жыл бұрын
Great video and yes, would love to see different brands tested. Thanks!
@yoanhotte5821
Жыл бұрын
In my case; You prevented me to pollute our planet with four more Lithium Rechargeable AA Batteries and as a bonus saved me a ton of money. So thanks for this informative video.
@johnnylecroy7395
Жыл бұрын
Ive been using rechargeable batteries for years, started out with ni cad, then started using nickel, ive had some for years, even the harbor freight ones have been good, also i have a alkaline charger that gets me about 10 usage out of the battery, if i dont run it completely down, it will usually top off, back to 100%. Appreciate your videos, i learn alot of good info, thanks
@juXtaPostion
Жыл бұрын
I adopted the EBL AA & AAA Li-ion as i use them in field audio recording equipment requiring 1.5V batteries and explicitly states that rechargeable 1.2V Ni-Mh is unsupported. I still get great run time in the recording equipment and am very happy with my purchase.
@adventuresinportland3032
Жыл бұрын
I'm pleased that I have like 32 of those nickel metal hydride 2800 EBLs for my vanlife adventures.
@josephwisniewski3673
Жыл бұрын
Two things that might help. First, you really need to charge/discharge the EBL around 5 times before it starts to work properly. The little controller chip inside the "smart" battery doesn’t appear to be calibrated after they assemble the battery. That would take 10s of hours of cycling it. Second, the EBL can’t run anything even moderately high steady current. You should see it in a flashlight. It's really only suitable for devices like remote controls, low power toys, and things that only use higher currents for a few seconds at a time, like cameras. There are other rechargeable AA lithium that can do this, Kratax claims theirs can maintain 3A. They also claim 2 hour charging, while the EBL seems to take around 6.
@EugeneSan
Жыл бұрын
@HOBOTECH It would be interesting to see how those compare to Pale Blue Earth batteries. Those supposed to be the best 1.5V rechargables on the market and they come with 4-way charging USB-C cable so no need for special charger or cable mess.
@jameswkirk
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. One issue I found with the constant 1.5 volt Lithium rechargeables is that in some lower load electronics there's no indication for low voltage, and found that some were discharged to the point that they could no longer be recharged, and that was after one or two uses. Perhaps using the cell voltage as a reference for the regulator to give them a more expected discharge curve. I've started experimenting with EBL Nickel-Zinc rechargeable which have a nominal 1.6 volt output. I'd be interested to see a video comparing them with other chemistries. One thing I've read is that they have higher self-discharge, so may not be suitable for things that get little use...
@toddprickett6376
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate these types of videos. They are a great help in allowing us to sort out the best products to buy. I just wish you'd tried the same test with the lamps. Given the flakey behavior of the lantern and the rechargeable lithium batteries, it'd be interesting to see if the lamp exhibited the same behavior, or not. It'd also be interesting to see if all 3 of the lithium rechargeable were functioning properly. Like many other commentators, I hope you consider testing different brands of rechargeable lithium batteries in a future video!
@johnbode2756
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Chinese manufacturer of the Lithium battery reduced or omitted the anti-freeze chemicals. You are spot on about the cold weather performance of the US made primary Lithium batteries.
@darring2634
Жыл бұрын
Great video, love the 'new' thing. Also love the solar generator reviews, so keep 'em coming too.
@CarbonGlassMan
Жыл бұрын
I've been buying the Harbor Freight AA and AAA batteries for years for use in the remotes for out TV sets. I finally bought some Duracell AA rechargeables but I'm sick of replacing AAAs in my remotes. So thanks for this video. I assumed the Lithium would have been better, but nope. I ordered the NiMH batteries.
@raybarr2224
Жыл бұрын
I liked this video, I believed your opinion since you had no sponsor money except for your Amazon. Good job Professor. Can I make a suggestion! Incorporate some Dr Demento into your videos 👍
@stevesheridan3511
Жыл бұрын
Love the fact your mixing it up some! Yet still In the same "ballpark" of reusable energy.
@marioarvizu7077
13 күн бұрын
Excellent info! Thanks so much, I finally can have a clear idea of differences and performance of those types of batteries
@JohnThomas-ou2rn
7 ай бұрын
This particular video is a personal favorite of mine. Hopefully, they'll figure out the AA lithium battery problems in the near future. Thanks Prof!
@philipdutton9831
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been using my eneloop Ni-MH AA batteries in some Harbor Freight Lanterns for years now. Cheap camping light and better for the environment. Yeah they don't last as long as alkaline but that's why I've also got solar to recharge them as needed.
@eandm8982
Жыл бұрын
I did appreciate the testing done here.thanks. My experience with the li aa rechargeables(the ones with the micro-usb port... brand pownergy) is each battery has an internal bms for obvious reasons they still have the potential for fire i assume. Anyway my experience is they have a good shelf life(like the 18650s) and the high voltage works much better in things like shavers and anything motor driven. than the mi-nh. you can hear and see the difference. I haven't tried them in led lights. All my bigger lithium batteries have built in temperature controls for no charging below 32'f (something like that temp anyway) and no discharge below 0'f ish. I assume these little things have similar parameters. How the non rechargeable aa li get away with operating below zero is a good question but obviously they are engineered to not have a problem with usage and recharging isn't an option. thanks for the review... btw I found ebl to over rate it's battery capacities and their ni-mh have a pretty subpar shelf life.
@oh_rhythm
Жыл бұрын
love your real life application tests and not just a bunch of graphs and numbers thanks
@jsunhack
Жыл бұрын
Loved it. Do more like this
@diegovasquez7164
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I was considering the new lithium rechargeable and you saved me time, heartache, and money.
@emilycohan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid! I’ve been wanting your take on these types of batts for a while. Cheers. 😊
@greensavant2573
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative review! There is a reason why Toyota used the Ni-MH in the first Prius (1997) and mostly continues to use them. Two years ago I traded in my 2004 Prius with 269K on it, and the original battery pack still tested full capacity (by Autobeyours, the best Prius guru in the Nation).
@greensavant2573
Жыл бұрын
@@EfficientRVer Ordered it in Dec 2003, after the Gen 2 got the MT Car of the year award (was going to get a Mini). Got Pkg 9 with the additional rear seat side curtain airbags and the Traction Control. Delivery was April 9, 2004. Used to go to Quantico every summer, and for 3.5 years used it for a 4-State territory, up to 1,500mi/week. This was IL, IA, NE and MO. Except for the MFD, all problems with it were caused by the dealer. That is how I found Autobeyours when Toyota Stealerships wanted $1K~$2K to replace the MFD. Autobeyours repairs for $300 with a warranty. And, they fixed many items that Toy couldn't, most of which Toy caused. So YES, 269K on the ORIGINAL HEV pack.
@louisianahiker
Жыл бұрын
Yes very informative. I use cheap rechargeable batteries for small night lights and flashlights. So yes it’s nice to compare the more expensive choices. Thanks for doing the experiment.
@user-zo6xg8bx4l
Жыл бұрын
Your channel has become the best of it's kind on KZitem. Thank you!!!
@darrylk808
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, you need to mix it up more. I was a long-time subscriber, since you lived in your home in SoCal, I was looking into Vanlife and your videos were great. I stopped when you went to your home in AZ doing Solar Gen stuff. I was not interested in solar until our recent brown outs here in NorCal. It seems more frequent and lasts a lot longer. We rarely would lose electric, and if so it lasted a couple hours. Now it seems like it happens 3+ times a year and lasts for 2 - 4 days?? We have old infrastructure in our neighborhood... I blame Tesla.😁 Have you seen how many Tesla Autos are in CA? Been going back to watch your Solar Gen reviews, you do a thorough and excellent job! Thanks. I thought I'd be "green" so I bought the Amazon NiMH recharge batteries. I discovered like you that they don't last as long as the Alkaline...oh well, just more swapping and recharging. It works ok as long as I have plenty on hand to use as replacements...😁 Like your thorough reviews, do more of other things that way you will pop up on more YT feeds as we all have different interests. Keep up the good work!
@gregmgm06
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more/ different product tests like this battery video, even if its outside your normal comfort zone. You're excellent and thorough, and we really appreciate the info.
@mdunbar04
Жыл бұрын
Great Video. I Dig all things Hobo. Keep up the great work 😎😎
@jamesthompson7282
9 ай бұрын
That was GREAT! Thanks for the off-beat test. Results completely unexpected.
@MWBFurlong
9 ай бұрын
Very useful for me, thank you. I was considering buying the EBL Li ion for my camping lights but decided to stick with the Nimh after watching this review.
@redneckextraordinaire3073
Жыл бұрын
Very surprised by the results. Will rethink small battery purchases in the future.
@RonHarrisMe
8 ай бұрын
I LOVE this information. We all have important things that run on batteries. I have a CO2 and Fire Detectors. My Google Smoke Detector takes like 10 AAA or AA Batteries. So buying the best, each time will save me a lot of money. And, you're kinda the ONLY KZitem I can really trust. So mix it up.. I am all for it.
@AGilbert_81
Жыл бұрын
I was on the fence which rechargeable to buy and this helped me a lot. Thanks Professor!
@aliceinmansonland448
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing and using a control, way too many people leave that step out. I have a similar pop up lantern from Harbor Freight and it drains Ni-MH batteries overnight. The lithium batteries are known to go poof if you ding them the wrong way, so you could have led with that. Instead you showed the complete picture and I commend you for it.
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