Ebony Stewart speaks her truth. It's not convenient for all ears. There are toes that may feel trampled upon. What she presents is thoughtful, bold, and beautifully written. What it is not though is here to conform or falsely comfort. Like most pop quizzes you may find yourself not ready for it.
@TheRetroWoman80
2 жыл бұрын
Well stated
@ashleeconnors4139
2 жыл бұрын
“I’ve loved many men who can’t help but think like a slaveholder”
@fomorekontent83
2 жыл бұрын
Ebony Stewart has that bite that makes my jaws just drop each time she performs on stage. Her art is just so impeccable .💙
@ButtonPoetry
2 жыл бұрын
Not just her art either! That is Ebony through and through!
@justjenise3533
2 жыл бұрын
“Still gotta be that Bitch and walk all these dogs to Heaven”
@ashleeconnors4139
2 жыл бұрын
Everything about this. Yes.
@TheRetroWoman80
2 жыл бұрын
Very, VERY interesting. Ebony always comes with depth and makes me question things. This actually stretches beyond the "pop quiz" from black woman to black man for me, mentally. It shows how everyone does not necessarily receive what an individual says or does within one simple perspective.
@ButtonPoetry
2 жыл бұрын
Oooooo I like it!
@chibueze-onyekpere
2 жыл бұрын
This is a really amazing poem
@jenniferharris61
2 жыл бұрын
SPEAK SIS!!!!
@missywells44
2 жыл бұрын
Ooooweee WOW, MUCH APPRECIATE YOU FOR SHARING YOUR TALENT. ❤️
@soundcav7458
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to admit but that is all factual information.💔🙏🏾💯😪
@jo5755
11 ай бұрын
She’s always spitting that fire.
@moderndayaphorismswithUncleRay
2 жыл бұрын
✌️, 💕 And Many More 🙏 Blessing's....
@ButtonPoetry
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@jasmineneverson37
2 жыл бұрын
This was amazingly written and said!!
@ShesBearynice
2 жыл бұрын
I really like this poem and the artist but she said something about “non-binary” people benefiting from the mockery of black women… What does she mean by that? Is she generally alluding to how certain groups of genderqueer/transpeople “benefit” or perhaps “contribute” to misogynoir? I mean, let’s say that’s true- there’s a better way to say it than being so broad that it’s offensive. Because the first thing I, as a non-binary Transwoman, did when I heard the question posed by the poem is remove myself from the audience to it- afterall, I am not a man, and I don’t think I ever was as I think on it. And yet, obviously I think on what it means, consider the answers that cisgendered men would have and why, whether they would admit it or not- and essentially say that they define protection of black women in a paternalist sense, possessive and objectifying, “protect” in the same way that a nation would protect a resource- ownership. Which already made me feel uncomfortable because my existence is at odds with this framing. 1. I am a resource to men, sure, but in the same way a condom is- I am less than a sex object to men, I am a dirty secret, something they indulge in whilst disregarding themselves as being consumers. I am probably more likely to be in the same situation as my sisters than my sisters are when compared to all women because 1/4 of us have been or will be assaulted for simply being ourselves, and just like all black women, they’ll find us, kidnap us, kill us, and leave our bodies in the forest in a ditch somewhere, naked, with a cord around our necks. 2. She brought non-binary people up as benefactors to Misogynoir and that’s… Just not true. Even if you want to label the non-binary people who partially identify as men, there’s a fundamental problem with that- transmen (AFAB) people suffer from patriarchy in the same ways ciswomen do, and the gradient continues on- the only way it makes sense is if she means non-binary people who are “assigned male at birth”, and that means she might as well be referring to everyone “born male” too. Saying all [presumably black] people “born male” benefit from making mockery of black women is just transphobia. How the fuck do I benefit from mocking myself, or am I suddenly not a woman? I think the question is extremely insightful and important. But, given that you’re a cisgendered woman, who is apparently or possibly(?) queer, my counter question only exists because of this… Incorporation of my fellow genderqueer folk into the context. What do you mean by “woman”? Do you mean transwomen too? Because if you think “protect black women” only means protect black cisgendered women, which I don’t think you do, then that’s fucked up. And if that’s not what you intended, why bring up “non-binary” people with no specification- because, like, that would include some black women somewhere somehow, no matter what you define as a woman personally. So, at the risk of being dehumanized by transphobes, and called a man or being told that I’m mansplaining or some obvious transphobic nonsense that disregards the reality that gender binaries are mythical social constructions, I only have this question, one that would be responsible for someone’s silence somewhere, if this question was directed at the wrong people based on harmful gender assumptions. “What do you mean by women?” Because what black men hear when black transwomen say “protect us” they hear an opportunity to kill us and jump on it. When they hear black transpeople as a whole speak, they objectify us, and then kill us after telling us who we are, and what we can be? Obviously their goddamn calls for protection is performative, even cisgendered women don’t care about every kind of woman, and that’s what I’m afraid of. You can say gay guys “benefit” from misogynoir if you want. But it’s funny how I have to interpret what you meant from what you said, and I can’t be frustrated, just like how you, unfairly, can’t be frustrated by the fact that you need to understand what a man means when he finally values a woman after she gives birth. It’s gross and fucked up that we have to assume the best out of such dumbass phrasing, that he means he finally learned to respect women at that moment, rather than for their reproductive purposes (at best), and that you… Don’t mean to be transphobic by including non-binary people broadly in your rejection of the acts of and confidence within people who contribute to misogynoir, I guess? Even though saying that non-binary people benefit from the image of black women like it’s a bad thing is ridiculous because some of us are black women, unless by including us in that shit you mean to call us men instead? I’m just disappointed. Who cares about my feelings, but I just wanna share them in case you read this because it’s… I like Ebony’s work and her energy reminds me that I can be strong and be hard and tough and understanding of the bad ways and social norms of men and still be a woman- I respect her a lot. I find her as a role model. And this is just more reason why I shouldn’t believe in being allies with cisgendered people. I don’t even think I could feel safe around her, given that one little statement, and I don’t care if that upsets someone, because, frankly, no one should or does care about how they upset others.
@jw844
2 жыл бұрын
I can understand some of your points, and could share my own interpretation in case it is of interest. I believe some of what she is referring to within those couple of lines may be to the way mainstream drag and LGBT+ culture does have a history of allowing everyone to use terms and mannerisms associated with and created by black women (including black transgender women) while also still being spaces that can give significant space to cis men and white masc people, and fewer platforms for black women and black femme non-binary people. There is definitely sexism to be addressed within these spaces, not least the lack of acknowledgement of how many Black and Latine LGBT+ women created so many LGBT+ spaces and traditions originally. I know as a white non-binary person myself, I have definitely fallen short in that area before. I now aim to focus on building and supporting LGBT+ spaces where women of colour (including, of course, trans and cis women) have prominent voices, and where I stick to language choices that do not impersonate and are respectful to all. It is definitely something to be addressed in LGBT+ spaces, even if it isn't the case in every space, or automatically done by all non binary people. But also, I would like Ebony to consider please adding an elaborative line or two on that point, so we can understand her point better. (Either in the poem or in the comments could be extremely useful). I may not be interpreting this accurately, but those were some of my thoughts. I can understand that as a transgender person, lots of people make a lot of generalising statements about us, and so we can be extra reactive to situations where that appears to be happening. I think some of this line's implications may be more of an editting element than some thing fully intended as it came across. Wishing both yourself and Ebony well.
@ShesBearynice
2 жыл бұрын
@@jw844 I agree, I thought of and was aware of all of those things. I think the problem is how she said that. It’s not a controversial or even upsetting statement to elaborate on when you get to the details. Hell, if she said “the LGBT community is hostile towards black femmes too while still taking our style” it would be still very biting but it wouldn’t, like, come off as targeting transpeople (non-binary people)- at least not in a way that doesn’t invite introspection without somehow pointing at genderqueer people as though they’re involved because of some of them being “men” too- it comes off that way BECAUSE of the male association.
@ShesBearynice
2 жыл бұрын
She could have just said “there’s anti-black sexism to be addressed in queer spaces too” and kept it pushing instead of, what, singling out black masc non-binary AMAB people- like it has to be AMAB as a distinction, because AFAB people do not benefit from misogyny at all- it directly effects them and is the source of their suffering regarding gender. It just sounds a little transphobic to specify transpeople as a part of the problem when it’s the whole damn community that’s fucked???
@jw844
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShesBearynice I think she was trying to call out the full trans and drag communities, as her example in the following sentence reads to me as if it could only be about cis gay men doing drag. I truly agree that it is very unfair when people target and AMAB people when it come to misogyny, when often AMAB transpeople experience significant misgony and sexism directed against them too. In my experience as a trans masc AFAB white person, while we all need to consider our wording etc, it is often AFAB nonbinary and transpeople who must be extra vigilant not to be misogynistic to others, and fall into enacting toxic masculinity traits, instead of being truly supportive allys. Although, I don't think Ebony meant to imply anything specifically to AMAB folks, I think she was aiming to address a full range of LGBT+ people and spaces. If, slightly, grouping everyone together in a slight generalisation. Although, I can still see how further elaboration or clearer wording on these lines could help her point to come across clearly and feel more constructive. I understand wanting nuanced descriptions of our spaces, that acknowledge variation of experience within the LGBT+ community and within the non-binary community. Especially when it comes to the topic of those experiencing misogyny, those forming internal bias against themselves and others, and those perpetuating misogynistic traits to others. This is difficult to word however, as I believe we should all try to be away of sexism in our spaces, (both deliberate and unconscious), but I in no way believe that everyone in the nonbinary or wider lgbt+ community is inherently and irredeemably sexist. I think sexism and misogyny, particularly directed to Black women and women-aligned nonbinary people needs to be worked on and significantly reduced. But I do not mean to generalise when saying where I have seen it. I'm sorry if any of my wording isn't ideal, I've tried to make it clear and respectful, but I apologise if anything comes across as not so. All the best, to commenter and writer.
@ShesBearynice
2 жыл бұрын
@@jw844 No you’re absolutely valid homie, I appreciate you.
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