I'm really impressed with your work, Luke. The way you introduce the product, describe the key features, and demonstrate their use clearly shows you put a lot of thought and effort into this review.--much appreciated. I posted some links in the eDRUMin forum.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 I knew after a little bit of use that it was going to need a pretty in-depth look to do it justice so I'm glad that came across!
@sonidojamon
3 жыл бұрын
@herbert bourne I'm sure you guys are overwhelmed by the response. Any updates in production/stock/etc. Is there a waiting list were we can sign in? Are you considering a GOFUNDME campaign so you can cope with the demand and keep in touch with potential buyers? This thing you've created: GAMECHANGING
@deegrose1231
3 жыл бұрын
@audiofront Fantastic product!!! Is it possible to prepay for the out of stock unit? I NEED this thing! LOL
@CharveL88
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, well put together video minus unnecessary fluff. It helped to cement my decision to purchase the ed10. Thanks for the video!
@DrumRoody
2 жыл бұрын
Eta on more 10s? 😄
@TheLeftistOwl
Жыл бұрын
I've had my edrumin 10 for about a year now and I'm glad I have it. It may be a bit frustrating to get things dialed in sometimes, but having so many options to dial in my drums how I want has been incredible.
@EstebanAcosta801
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad these products exist. I've been using an Alesis Command module, but only to trigger samples in Bitwig. It's served its purpose, but found it limiting, now that I'm I building a hybrid kit. So now I finally ordered a MegaDrum, a similar product that's been out for quite a while, but even more niche than the eDRUMin or the DDTI. Definitely looking forward to having 27 dual-zone inputs instead of 5.
@wilkiebrown244
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was an eye opener for me… first I’ve heard of this product… I’m only interested in accurate trigger control for Superior Drummer 3 for recording with no standalone sounds. Thanks for the very comprehensive pro and con review. Good job 👍
@ns6178
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video! until i saw this i didn't fully realize the possibility of dropping my drum module. several weeks later, i have made the transition to EDrumin + Superior Drummer 3. since i have never worked with MIDI before, this was a BIG learning curve, but ultimately very rewarding!
@jwc3104
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why your channel only has 4k subscribers... wealth of info on your channel is top notch.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Takes some time to build things up, I guess. Will keep on going though!
@gkurtenbach
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I own an edrumin 10 and I love it. Yes, you do need some knowledge VSTs, Midi, and how drum brains work but, as the author says, this is all learnable stuff. I use it with Steven Slate Drums and kit composed of Alesis and Roland drum triggers, and Aegean low volume cymbals. It's a joy to play because the edrumin works so well. It won't absolutely eliminate absolutely all your triggering problems since some of that is due to the triggers themselves, but it does an amazing job.
@HowieStephens
9 ай бұрын
Wow I just found out about this product today, thanks for the in-depth review, this looks amazing. I have a pretty cool frankenstein drumkit which started out as a super basic Hart Dynamics (RIP) kit that I've added pieces to over the years. But I'm still going through an old Alesis DM5 module into my PC to trigger various VSTs (mostly AD2 and NI kits). The DM5 works well enough just as a trigger module, but it's very limiting. This edrumin gear looks like exactly what I need to be able to expand further and exploit the additional features of my sample libraries that I don't really get to enjoy.
@kickdawson
6 ай бұрын
I’m in the process of starting to converting my acoustic kit to electric with triggers. Your channel has been immensely helpful and I’m grateful.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
6 ай бұрын
Glad to help. Thank you 🙏
@steevidrums
3 жыл бұрын
BEST VIDEO YET!!!! (of course I am biased eh?) But seriously and objectively speaking, excellent review. You explained some things to me about it that I was't aware of. Excellent stuff Luke!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Glad you liked it man! Definitely a great product.
@dougmcpherson2045
5 ай бұрын
Hey! Just got notification that the eDRUMin10 is *finally* back in stock and I JUST completed my order. So now I think it's safe to spread the word. 🙂 I really hope Mr. Jonkman continues to keep up the fine work. My little eDRUMin4 has been a real workhorse but I really need the ports & USB host mode, so my eDRUMin10 is going to be quite welcome!!
@bkf22002
3 жыл бұрын
This looks fantastic. I use SD3 for all my sounds instead of my TD17. Time to sell my TD17! Thanks Luke!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up - looks like they went out of stock just as my video got finished. Bookmark it though!
@dougmcpherson2045
3 жыл бұрын
If you gig with it, then you should always save that td17 as a backup.
@voederbietels
Жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop still sold out
@michaelk8642
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, Luke. Earlier today I went out to the Audio Front site because I wanted to download the manual for this amazing little box, and wouldn't you know it! For the eDrumIn 10, the little blurb stating "Out of Stock. Get Notified," instead had a yellow "Add to Cart" button. You think I didn't whip out my wallet and purchase one most ricky-tick! Needless to say, I won't have to wait until March 2024 to get my hands on one! Needless to say. I did check the site again about 30 minutes after I purchased mine and they had sold out again. If people want one, I suggest that they religiously check the site a few times a day because over the past two weeks, this is the second batch that has went on sale.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
What a great catch! Definitely seems like a good idea to keep checking in. I hope you enjoy it.
@StereoAnthony
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for such a clean and indepth explanation mate! The Edrumin just became available today again, so I grabbed one. Super stoked to ditch my DTX 700 module.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Awesome, really glad they're available again and that you managed to grab one!
@kyronnewbury
2 жыл бұрын
After a long time of waiting my eDrumin 10 is on its way!! I'm so excited!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Have fun!
@482jpsquared
3 жыл бұрын
I have the eDRUMin 10. There's NOTHING like it for "leveling up" (taking it to the next level) triggering response as Rob said. I use it to run SD3, but I also simply then run a 5-din MIDI cable from the eDRUMin to a Mimic Pro. The software and triggering control of the eDRUMin is better than the built-in triggering features and control within the Mimic, in my opinion. I actually get better triggering customization for my needs, and additional control, out of this setup. That says a LOT, because the Mimic is already very good! Further, use of a single MIDI cable with my home kit, allows me to quickly grab the Mimic and load up my gigging kit (a DIY beater kit) and off I go, while leaving my cables and everything set up in the studio. So when I get home, I only have to plug in the Mimic's power and MIDI cables and I'm running again. Love it!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've got an awesome setup going there! I'm definitely going to end up with one of these of my own down the line, there's just so many features that I think are useful. Using it alongside modules is certainly one of the main ones for me. I usually have everything hooked up to my TD-50 with MIDI out from there but could see this being a useful "module hub" for development, especially for the pad compatibility.
@482jpsquared
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop "Module hub" is a great way to describe it. The only thing that might make it better would be a 12-16 input version. However, since it can perform as a MIDI host, it's easy to connect two together or multiple combinations of a 4 and/or a 10. It's too bad you couldn't get the ATV ride to work with three zones and one cable with bell sense. I have it working incredibly well - MUCH better than any analog Roland ride I've ever played.
@progression_decibel
3 жыл бұрын
John I think you just convinced me of a eDRUMin 10 for the SAME exact purpose. I've been recently contemplating a second module for my beater kit (which kind of funny, is high end Roland pads!) and at home my full-on Mimic Pro hooked up to my ePRO kit and ATV cymbals I never really want to tear down due to sheer number of cables and it's setup perfectly. I agree as well - the Mimic offers some pretty advanced trigger control but the eDRUMin kicks it up a notch! Hopefully it's back in stock soon!
@twtobin941
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your excellent review has helped me determine that an eDRUMin 10 is a far more affordable and functional choice than a full drum module, as I will be doing an electronic conversion of an acoustic kit and exclusively triggering VI sounds on a Mac (e.g. SSD5).
@SaS-Music
3 жыл бұрын
Great overview of this product. Looks like a real winner. Thanks for your efforts and clear presentation!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@482jpsquared
3 жыл бұрын
I agree and I love my eDRUMin 10 so much, I bought another, just to keep under my pillow at night. In all seriousness, I'll keep one connected to my home/studio kit, and one in my bag for gigs.
@TomWatkeys
Жыл бұрын
I think an oversight in terms of the customer here is the man with the travelling kit(s) In my band for instance, the drummer either plays an SPD-SX, or plays a TD-20 weird hybrid kit. This would allow you to easily move your module around - as you're only ever connecting power and MIDI cable to it. So he could have this setup on the main kit, and bring only the module for SPD gigs - this ensures you have EXACTLY the same sounds, no matter the show
@MR-vg7yn
2 жыл бұрын
Damn it... this looks perfect for me: I already only use SD3, so I have very little use for most of the features of an actual drum module. Since I'm currently looking to swap out my TD-11, primarily to get positional sensing support and I really wouldn't mind fiddling around with the trigger settings to get them right, this video made me pretty happy. Then I was made very sad when checking out their page: The 10 input version is out of stock and in the forums, the manufacturer has said he's waiting for parts, but isn't expecting to get them until October _2023_ Quite the downer for me, as this would be pretty much perfect for me and it would be considerably cheaper than getting a new module.
@steevidrums
2 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, but hang in there, it'll be worth it!
@jackbritton5177
2 жыл бұрын
They just stocked the 4s and you can use two in tandem. I just bought a couple. Gl!
@MR-vg7yn
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackbritton5177 Thanks for the info!
@joshtarnow492
Жыл бұрын
You are VERY good at simply explaining topics that might be somewhat intimidating to some..keep it up.
@brucewatkins1624
3 жыл бұрын
Great review...opens a world of possibilities and alternative to sourcing a new module...sounds are spot on...🍒
@mikestein1024
3 жыл бұрын
I believe they sell a smaller version with less inputs as well
@damohsyoutube
2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I also interested with Ddrum Trigger Interface DDTI. Still no full review about it on youtube. 66Samus did use it but only to trigger his drum without using the cymbal and hihat control. It would be great if you can give a full review about it as the price is also quite cheap. Thanks in advance. 👍
@99beatmonster
2 жыл бұрын
Top class video Luke , as always I am impressed by your in depth approach.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce 🙏
@annekedebruyn7797
3 жыл бұрын
This is great. I NEVER play with the onboard sounds. Having this is much cleaner and more affordable.
@kaylanwade3392
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@deegrose1231
3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review. Really! I had never heard of Audiofront before. But, you sir, sold me on it. I had to subscribe. Bravo!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, I'll be picking one up myself in the future!
@atom_jack
Жыл бұрын
I was able to find an edrumin4 on the used market. Im using it on iOS to trigger drums from Garageband using ddrum mono triggers on remo silent mesh heads, and having a blast with it so far. The full editor software being available on mobile is a massive deal for me, and I’m now looking into upgrade my pads, cymbals, and software to make way when I upgrade to the edrumin10!
@atom_jack
Жыл бұрын
btw for those still looking to get a module, they go for sale often on the audiofront forum marketplace
@simondell5355
3 жыл бұрын
Seen it and I love the idea of connecting to this to my TD17 (Without a PC) to expand pads in a live situation. My only concern is getting the best sounds (like the ones you can purchase from your site)!
@michaelmathews7864
Жыл бұрын
This was a really great review, thank you.
@joedin9790
5 ай бұрын
18:43 @TheeDrumWorkshop It’s possible to do this inside Logic Pro using the MIDI Scripter function in the channel strip region. I use this to convert my cymbals incoming CC signal to convert to a regular MIDI note for a choking function. Not too sure on what the code would look like but if I can, I’ll post it as a reply here.
@paulussantosociwidjaja4781
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome approach, Bro. Thanks!
@JakeAntelis
5 ай бұрын
Fantastic review, thank you
@woodybear8298
9 ай бұрын
He never takes a breath of air, which is very impressive. Love the videos.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it looks like I've managed to post this just as they've gone out of stock. Hopefully it'll be back soon!
@EqDior
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use the edrumin software without the edrumin hardware?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
No, you need the device connected to use the software. It won't work without the device as it's just controlling the functions of the hardware. They do make another piece of software called DSP Trigger that you can use with an audio interface instead of the eDRUMin. Not quite as fully-featured as the eDRUMin software, I don't think, and if you want to hook up stereo triggers you might need to use 2 inputs with a splitter from the drum, but might be worth checking out as an alternative.
@bmaxwell
2 жыл бұрын
I'm crossing my fingers 8 months after your note that the 10 will be back one day. I'd gone halfway through the video and my mind was made up. Clicked over to the Audiofront site ready to break my budget and finally replace my old Yamaha DTXtreme IIS module (I've converted the IIS rubber pads to mesh, btw, with fairly good results), only to find it unavailable. Hunted around Ebay and elsewhere, too, but no luck. Thanks for the great work here--I appreciate your content and knowledge.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
What a shame! They do keep coming back but I think availability of parts in general are a bit all over the place. I recommend keeping an eye on the Audiofront forum, Rob might post about when he next expects to have some stock. Good luck!
@sonidojamon
3 жыл бұрын
this is the future
@dougmcpherson2045
3 жыл бұрын
I have the original (smaller) edrumin and love it. Your review is dead-on. The software is incredibly useful if you have a mix of pad types/manufacturers. I'll be picking up the 10port version soon. (When gigs start up again...)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, totally - that software is something else in terms of flexibility and detail!
@demonicsweaters
3 жыл бұрын
After seeing this video, I got the eDRUMin 4 and had a terrible experience with it. It was triggering randomly constantly basically all the time, even when it was just sitting there. The only way I could get it to stop was by setting the threshold so high that you had to slam every drum to get a reaction. I was going to make a video on it, but it was so absolutely horrible I didn't want to make a video just tearing it apart. I found the software to be completely wonky, not intuitive at all, and the overall experience to be a clunky, poorly functioning device. I could have just gotten a bad unit, but I quickly returned it. If anything these devices seem to be very inconsistent.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Woah, that's really weird. I've genuinely never had that issue or seen anyone else mention it before. Did you try reaching out to Rob to see if he could help? I found he's responsive and gives great advice for troubleshooting. It definitely sounds like something was up with it though as I only get that kind of triggering when I drop the threshold below the noise floor (usually down to like 0.7, which is pretty low). Maybe for some reason there was some additional noise interference.
@demonicsweaters
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop yeah, I talked to him, he suggested doing an update which I did, but it didn't help at all. I also was not impressed with the build quality of it at all. Seemed like a toy to me.
@DrummClem
Жыл бұрын
I remember waiting for these a few years back... They looked incredibly promising but had too few inputs and I settled for a Megadrum module that I didn't really figured out. Well... My Gear Acquisition Syndrome is kicking out again.
@bobjenkins4110
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke, another great and very detailed review. For me it'll be the way of reasonably limitless future expansion for SD3 VST, Mimic and digital pads. It would be very interesting to know your and Rob"s thoughts on MIDI 2 that I keep hearing about and whether this will be a future implementation on the eDRUMin product.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Yeah, absolutely - I'll be picking one up when they're back in stock. As for MIDI 2.0 - to be honest, I've not done that much reading up on it but I've yet to see much of an advantage over the current MIDI standard for eDrums specifically. For velocity and position, we don't need more than 128 values as it's imperceptible. But I really ought to fully look into it as there's probably some stuff I'm missing.
@bobjenkins4110
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you for your reply Luke. Since then I have done some in depth looking at Midi 2 and I can see some advantages for more sensitive human expression down the line not least for CC info etc. I was wondering if you became aware of less latency going from eDrumin trigger to your VST rather than sending from Mimic or Roland modules ? as from my TD50 triggereing of SD3 I have round trip latency down to 1.5ms but I can feel that as opposed to directly triggering and monitoring from the Mimic or Roland. I noticed also that you use a BT1 for Xstick and was wondering if the rim sound or Xstick function from Roland digital snare pad worked, or is that exclusively a facility from the Roland module ? Apologies if you've already answered some of the same queries from others, I have have read through many of your replies but don't have the time to read all of them. I really appreciate your help and guidance.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to do some more reading into it! As I said in the review, the speed/latency of the eDRUMin is about on par with using a good module like a Roland to trigger VSTs. Are you sure about that latency value? Roland modules typically have about 3ms as a standard - it typically takes whatever the "scan time" is set to plus a little more to process the trigger signal before it sends the data out. As a standard, Roland us usually set to at least 2ms of scan time, some presets might be higher. You can decrease the scan time to sub-2ms levels but you usually start getting bad performance if you go too low. So the eDRUMin's scan time value will do the same - this is just how long it takes to read the waveform and any increase in scan time (on the eDRUMin or Roland module) will increase the overall latency. If you want to use positional sensing, you will need to have the value set to at least 2.3ms. Then you've got your computer's latency in the mix. I doubt you'd perceive any difference between using either device unless you had to increase the scan time of the trigger settings because of an awkward pad or something.
@bobjenkins4110
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for your swift reply Luke, sorry I was quoting the "round trip" 1.5ms from module to SD3 and back and not including the initial typical latency from module, which as you correctly point out is always there. Great that you confirm that eDRUMin performs on a par with modules as Roland and Mimic. It means I can think of replacing my Roland with a couple of eDRUMin10s to get more trigger inputs that I require and still retain my digital pads too, once that is, when they become available in numbers to satisfy demand.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, shows you how little I use VSTs as I've got my terminology mixed up haha! Fair enough! Yeah, in that case, I doubt you'd notice any difference. I certainly didn't!
@johndef5075
3 жыл бұрын
That is an impressive piece of gear!
@seanwalsh999
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Now if they could just make a box to store my VST samples then I could leave my computer at home. I think I saw something called Smart or some thing like that, but the learning curve for the folder layout seemed quite intimidating and the box it came in certainly wouldn't stand up to the road but it was only $100.00.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, the SmartWAV2. I've got a couple of the units but I haven't done my proper dive into it yet. They can support 4 sample layers per MIDI note, so you won't get VST playability out of it. I'll have a video on it soon so look out for that!
@seanwalsh999
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Will be on the look out for that one, take your time, the folder layout will take some getting use too, don't burn up to many neurons.
@josephquinn4933
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Luke, I've heard about this unit online but this really outlines it. I'm currently using my td12 on an A to E kit with Steven Slate, using goedrum triggers, stealth, gear drum and ufo triggers. What I'm really keen on is getting more out of my hi hat settings. I have a diy/goedrum dual zone switch trigger. I have heard the best in the market is SD3 which seems to have all sorts of extra features to get the best response. Do you think this would help? Keep up the great work! Joe.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I should imagine that the extra hi-hat options with this could help playability but I didn't end up testing my Goedrum controller with it due to time constraints (and the stand I use it on isn't great either so it might not have been super accurate). So I can't really say 100% for sure, but I was impressed with the playability with the FD-7 over Roland modules
@randalscandal1588
2 жыл бұрын
Very very nice work.
@baterizmo
3 жыл бұрын
I need this :-D
@sierratrey
3 жыл бұрын
That sounds pretty freakin good. I love “pop” on the back-end. Although that’s probably the VST. Also, way to keep it real using the old reliable RHH-135.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, it's Superior Drummer 2 that I'm using on my this video for the sounds. The Yamaha pad is actually just a PCY-135, using a Roland FD-7 as the pedal!
@sierratrey
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop 😂 well, the old reliable PCY acting as a semi RHH is pretty good too. 🤦🏼♂️
@mattvent
2 жыл бұрын
I am having a great day, thanks Luke 😂
@lbu4191
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty awesome, good vid, have you had any problems with latency at all?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, I didn't have any noticeable latency issues. However, I do have a decent audio interface (Focusrite Scarlett 18i20) and had the buffer settings very low - I think I had it down to 32 samples - which really helps!
@edrumsense
3 жыл бұрын
I´m impressed. The only thing that worries me a bit is the latency. The add of the Plugins plus any latency of the module itself and how heavy the software itself looks gives me the impression that I won't be reaching the low latency I can reach with a standard drum module... maybe I am wrong
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
As I said in the review, it's as fast as any good module with a VST. The software itself doesn't add any latency, the only real "latency" is the scan time which is the same on any module. I couldn't feel any difference once I had the interface's latency down (as you need to with any software).
@edrumsense
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Then I will definitely try to change my old modules to put my hands in this little big one. Thanks for the review and the answer
@steveinflorida773
2 жыл бұрын
Great Review, If they could just make a module using this software and downloading 2 box samples that would be something.
@KingsDenStudios
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this! 👊👊🍻
@Holtenstein
3 жыл бұрын
I think they made this just for me! Too bad they're out of stock. I would immediately buy this.
@Holtenstein
3 жыл бұрын
They're back and It looks like they updated the eDrumin4 too
@JCReyesJCRACING
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke. Just a thought if you may, can we request for a separate video using this + Mimic Pro? Thank you in advance, brother!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Carlo! Yeah, I can look into that. I borrowed the unit for this review so could only do so much, but I'll have my own very soon!
@JCReyesJCRACING
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thank you, sir. Looking forward to that! More blessings!
@TheFrancoprincipe
Жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much for this review. I am using an old Roland TD 7 (prehistoric I know lol).... I was looking to hook up some PD 85/PDX100 and Cy 5/8 pads to it. Unfortunately due to the age of the head unit, I wasn't getting dual zone triggering on the PD85s and the PDX100. Somebody has just told me about this unit, which I'm looking to purchase now. Hopefully this will give me the ability to use those pads with the TD7 and get rim shots! Your review has helped out heaps! Thanks so much and just to let you know I've also subscribed and liked :-) One question - do you know if the 10 & 4 are essentially the same minus the number of inputs?
@samjones4125
2 жыл бұрын
On the audiofront forum the company says this. "After I get the rest of my casings and those last 50 units are sold, I don't expect to have any more units until October 2023 at the earliest. This is very frustrating because I put in orders for parts in February 2021. Unless an angel drops a bunch of mk66fx1m0vlq18 microcontrollers on my doorstep, it's going to be a very long wait. Brutal.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no, that's awful! Must be really difficult to deal with. Such a great product being hampered by uncontrollable circumstances, I feel for Rob.
@zachmacrockproductionsinc.9902
11 ай бұрын
cool
@czr.
3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the video. I am looking for more customization on my Roland set because I speedrun games with the set. I plan on lowering the sm64 wr by adjusting the controls to improve gameplay. This might just give me the tools to do just that!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting idea, sounds great! Hope that you find what you need with this!
@filipeperry
10 ай бұрын
Great Content as usual! I'm still considering the possibility of buying an eDrumin 4, but I would like to know if it would be possible to use the Roland VH-13/14 with my Yamaha DTX Pro module (which is only compatible with the RHH135, unfortunately). As for your second question, once configured, does the eDrumin need to be connected to a computer or tablet? Sorry for my NOOB questions! :)
@nodevit9950
3 жыл бұрын
What drums are you using? Do you have a video explaining your drumkit? Looks very custom. Great content!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
I explained a little about a few of the drums in this video! If you seek out my Electronic VS Acoustic drums video, I break down an older version of my setup too. I've been asked about my kit a few times recently so I guess I'll probably need to make a video about it eventually but I feel like I've talked about parts of it on a few videos so never remember! Cheers!
@cjleongson
3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be big. An ekit. Like diy or after market or custom stuff. Then vsts
@fmcampodonico
3 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation .. I would like to know what are the differences of this product with the DDrum DDTI Trigger Interface .. thank you very much.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've never used a DDrum DDTI unfortunately so you'd have to have a look at the manuals. The DDrum is a fair bit older though, if I remember rightly.
@harrygordon7612
Ай бұрын
Hi great videos, I have a edrumin 10, I am changing from a rack to stands. I would like to fit the edrumin inside my bass drum would this be a problem Thanks
@galgogergo
2 жыл бұрын
Which drum software/VST did you use throughout the video? I'm impressed with the sound!
@looseburdens4259
3 жыл бұрын
That was a great review thanks man! Would you say this plays better with DIY triggers than an average module? Or does it just have a finer level of control that enables DIY triggers to function a better? Cheers man
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd say so. It's a little of both, really. They visual/waveform display helps a lot in understanding what needs adjusting, but the trigger response itself is very good.
@looseburdens4259
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop sick! Thanks for the info man, i'm very tempted to sell my TD-20 module and pick up one of these
@gunnarwaage4343
Жыл бұрын
I have Alesis Strike module and VH-13 roland hi hats. Those hats are not really compatable with the strike module. Could this box fix that ?
@steevidrums
2 ай бұрын
Yes. You might be better off connecting more than just hihats to the edrumin and then midi-ing into the strike module. Say for example, the snare.
@hunedog8693
3 жыл бұрын
I am guessing those of us with modules ( Like the TD 15 I own) with cable snakes will have to purchase stereo cables to connect our pads.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, unfortunately it can't take a cable snake.
@pete3816
3 жыл бұрын
Or have a loom wired to connect to your snake. Stereo outputs on the other end to the module.
@maximo2112
6 ай бұрын
Hi! I like a lot your videos. I have a question, I need a recomendation, I only want to play my drum with my laptop and use ezdrummer or other VST, I prefer a module without sounds but a good module for all the zone sounds of my cymbals and pads. I have no problem of buy the best cymbals and pads but I realy need the roland or yamaha more expensive for have the best drum experience?
@feliperiquelmet
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understood enough, so, if i want to expand my e-kit while i'm using a VST, can i connect the edrumin to the auxiliary port on a TD-17, or i have to connect it directly to the computer and config it to trigger the extra sounds? Cheers man, love your channel
@KitCatStudio
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Tnx. What’s your opinion of the other edrumin product, the one that has 4 trigger in’s? And most importantly- will this work with my tm6pro as an expansion for more pads, cymbals and so on? Subscribed!
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I've not used the 4 input version myself but as far as I'm aware it works as well as the 10, just with fewer inputs and without a couple of features like the USB Host port. So I imagine it should be great if it's what you're after. As far as "expanding" a TM-6 Pro, it depends on exactly what you mean. If you mean "can I plug the eDRUMin into my TM-6 Pro to get more sounds out of the module" then no, you can't do that because the TM-6 Pro can only play sounds that are assigned to the trigger inputs. There are only some modules that allow access to extra sounds via MIDI and none of the newer Roland ones do. I did a video on MIDI a while back on this channel that explains why some can and others can't. If you just want to run the eDRUMin through a computer or other device alongside the TM-6 Pro then that would be a different matter and would work.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Here's the link to the MIDI video - kzitem.info/news/bejne/q46c2KWgpIiUfpw It's long but it should explain most things you'd need to know about "expanding" with MIDI!
@KitCatStudio
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Tnx, this is a big help! I figured as much, as tm6pro doesn’t have any midi in port. So u think using edrumin and tm6pro as two separate units via usb to computer with a Vst (sd3) will work? Can sd3 use two modules one being tm6pro and the other edrumin? And actually besides that what I’m really looking for is a unit for live hybrid situations that has the ability to load samples and has multiple trigger in. So far I have only found tm6pro for this. But! Thinking on using SPD-sx and expanding it with edrumin 4. Will this work? Tnx! Great channel, so happy I found it 😎
@Rupert_chiesa_gigliotti
3 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 I have a question! With that, is it possible connecting 5 toms and 2 double bass? I mean regulate it? Or it requires a splitter? Thank you
@tommason1698
2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent, detailed review. Thank you. I’d like to use this with 2 different A to E drum kits. Can it be programmed for more than one set of Kit parameters with some means of switching? I use a 2Box module with both kits. Thanks
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I believe you can save device snapshots in the software by clicking on the icon for the device and saving a preset, so you should be able to swap between multiple setups that way.
@Henry14arsenal2007
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, a couple of questions: 1) So you can hook up multiple edrumin units with each other for kit expansion through either the USB host or MIDI in ports, right? 2) When connecting digital pads through a USB host device, does this allow to circumvent the limitation of the TD27 module where the cable snake inputs become disabled when digital pads are connected to the module? Can you use the edrumin to trigger stuff in the module while having both digital pads connected to edrumin through the host AND the ride/snare snake cables connected on the module? Sorry for the messy question but basically i want a way to cheat the module into keeping both the digital and analog snare/ride inputs enabled while triggering the sounds inside the module and not that of a VST.
@lichtigroovt
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Have you done any testing with acoustic triggers ? I‘m interested in comparison to the Roland tm-6 pro Thanks in advance
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Unfortunately not, no. If I end up getting one of my own down the line I'll definitely do an update with some pads/triggers I didn't get chance to try out, though I'm aware that's not helpful right now! I can't see why it wouldn't do a good job with them though
@taufanaguszulkarnaen8646
10 ай бұрын
hi luk.. i always amazed bout how ur edrum sounds.. just so natural, so tralism such as an accoustic kit. i did mail u on ut site bout it, would u kind enough to check it out a bit, thanks 4 ur enlighment
@heatherjedrik7498
5 ай бұрын
can i use edrumin4 with yamaha ku100 (kick edrum pedal) with abletone push 2 to fingerdrumming on push 2 while playing kick pedal with my foot?
@musiqsoundsproductions
Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the tmc-6. Im not fond of adding an extra software step between the triggers and Ableton. But I do like the usb and 10 inputs option.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
I've not used the TMC-6 myself so can't really comment. If it helps, the software doesn't need to be running once you've got your triggers set up as it has a standalone mode - it's only for configuration that it's necessary. I understand that a lot of people prefer being able to adjust parameters with physical dials etc (I'm usually one of those people), but functionally it's pretty much the same as using a sound-less module otherwise.
@piotrzapasnik2168
Жыл бұрын
I HAVE A QUESTION, CAN I CONNECT TWO TD-07 TO A COMPUTER AT THE SAME TIME USING THE Fideco H418S USB Hub AND RECORDING IN LOGIC PRO X USING A MORE NUMBER OF PADS?
@Colognedrummerboy
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke, first things first . . . Great Video as always!!! I’ve got one question. . . Is it possible to daisychain or hook up 2 edrumin10?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is indeed possible! I do mention it in the review (though I couldn't show it off as I only had the one unit to test) - you can either host another eDRUMin using the USB Host port, or you can just hook up multiple units to your computer and they will be recognised by the software.
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth having a look at the manual - it's available on their product page to download and can help shed light on some functions that I couldn't cover here :)
@Colognedrummerboy
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop this make for me a dream come true 🤩!!!! I'll get me two and build my dream kit 👍👍
@taufanaguszulkarnaen8646
8 ай бұрын
Hi luke.. what source bank sound u use in this video? thanks in advance
@Mimic000
2 жыл бұрын
But then will be keep plugging in and out the cables from the module?
@danimorrison7994
2 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you for your video! I have a problem and I ask anyone for help if they have encountered a solution to the same problem I am having it has to do with using the DTX900 module by Yamaha. I don’t understand how to wire the head and the rim and successfully get dual triggering on my snare drum. How do I wire the rim and the head and plug it into my DTX900 and for the cross tick, the rim abd the snare head? I heard it’s piezo/switch not piezo/piezo. Is this tru? Is there anyway around this like using a drum splitter cable would that fix this problem??
@richa1894
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Can I expand my Roland Tm-6 pro with this?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The TM-6 doesn't have any capacity to be "expanded" with MIDI, if that's what you mean. It can only play sounds assigned to the pad zones available on each kit, so you would need something else to be the source of the sounds if you wanted to use an eDRUMin with it for that application. I did a MIDI video a while ago that explains why some modules can be expanded and others can't - kzitem.info/news/bejne/q46c2KWgpIiUfpw
@DugiDevetCarabolium
Жыл бұрын
What about Alesis Crimson 2 support?
@Lemon_Drums_USA
3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if you where able to get the Lemon cymbals to work better? Im hoping Audifront does an update to address the issue. I actually ordered a whole set to go with this device🤦♂️
@tbip2001
Жыл бұрын
Any idea why the 8 is in stock but the 10 isnt? Difficulty obtaining cases? Also would love to see them add their own kit library that can be used inside the software so literally an all in 1 option
@TheeDrumWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was to do with parts, yeah. I feel like I remember reading on the Audiofront forum that the 8 was being designed with a different board due to the chip shortages but there's a chance I'm misremembering that! The answer will no doubt be over there somewhere.
@mgall3844
2 жыл бұрын
Sooo this product is out of stock until AUGUST 2023 according to the website. Any good alternatives?
@dieguitars
2 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew about this product sooner. This is exactly what I need right now, but it seems the wait will be long for the next batch, and there is no similar product from other brands, right?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know of anything else that fills the same role really, no. Megadrum used to be a really popular option for this years ago but I believe that it's nowhere near as user friendly. There are also some options like a second hand Roland TMC-6 or there's an Alesis one that some people really liked, but they're a lot older and probably pretty outdated nowadays. The eDRUMin's big strengths are in the software with its ease of use and features. It's a shame to hear about the shortages affecting the eDRUMin as it deserves every success.
@LochNessAnthony
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Are any features lost when using Roland Digital Triggers with eDrumin to trigger SD3? Is using Roland Digital pads the best route or are there better alternatives? Thank you, your videos are great and amazingly helpful!!
@laloadler8044
2 жыл бұрын
No positional sensing
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lalo, I'd somehow missed this! But yes, the biggest drawbacks are that positional sensing doesn't work this way and you also have no access to the trigger parameters for tweaking the response of the pad (sensitivity, threshold etc)
@FrancescoGadaleta
2 жыл бұрын
very nice! Can you use an eDrumIn 4 with a Roland TD-17 (in case the roland runs out of inputs)
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
The eDRUMin 4 doesn't have a USB Host port and the TD-17 has no MIDI in port so you can't use them together, from what I remember. Even with an eDRUMin 10 though, you can't "expand" a TD-17 if you're using all of the pad inputs/zones because there is no way to trigger sounds that aren't assigned to a pad zone. You can use the 10 to trigger every available zone over MIDI if you want, but it's a pretty limited use case.
@rondeangelis7384
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Luke. You mentioned audio interface which i have on my acoustic kit 18i20. How do you use edrumin with the audio interface… using midi?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, the eDRUMin has MIDI over USB. The interface is used to handle the audio for using drum software/VSTs and outputting the audio. Having an interface to handle the audio helps offload some audio processing power and usually gives better performance than using onboard audio drivers on your computer.
@rondeangelis7384
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thankx luke for clarifying edrumin. So how do you connect the audio interface via computer?
@TheeDrumWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
You just connect it with the USB cable, plug in the power cable and turn it on! Then connect whatever speakers or headphones you want and configure the inputs/outputs in the software that's being used.
@rondeangelis7384
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheeDrumWorkshop aaah ok 👍 🙏 Cant wait to get my hands on edrumin hopefully shipping in october. Probably 2. Edrumin10 until next year crazzee.
@taufanaguszulkarnaen8646
11 ай бұрын
Hi Luke... im always very pleased bout how u explained things in ur content... i had Efrumin8 recently... but in this video I was really, really amazed when I saw you playing sidestick and rim only on the same snare (I think around the first minute of this video).. how on earth you can do that? ive been tweaking for it since eDrumin8 arrived st my door till now but i still hsve no luck... is it because of eDrumin youcan do that thing? im begging for ur enlighment if that di, thanks for ur care n your kindness
@TheeDrumWorkshop
11 ай бұрын
Hey! Thank you 🙏 I'm glad you find the videos useful! I've got a Roland BT-1 attached to my snare which is triggering the cross-stick - it's not that visible in the first demo (you can just see the corner of it if you look hard enough) but you can see it quite clearly at about 1:03. So I've got rim only on the snare's rim, rimshot detection when you hit the snare head and rim together then the BT-1 is doing cross-stick with some cross-talk rejection to stop the snare from triggering at the same time. Hope that helps and makes sense!
@taufanaguszulkarnaen8646
11 ай бұрын
aaaah.. great enlighment. thanks mate, means a lot to me... Hopefully that will make me sleep better tonight, tho actually I hope Edrumin is enough to make that kind of miracle... LoL. Hey... whats ur opinion in lemon T950 snare pad if connected to eDrumin? Does it will handle positional sensing flawlessly? tho the hotspot might can make us quite dizzy yes? any experiences Luke? u r the best in e drum tweaking IMHO. thanks in advance
@TheeDrumWorkshop
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. Unfortunately I've not tried any of Lemon's drum pads, only their cymbals, so I can't offer any insight there.
@bluesiliconedot2190
2 жыл бұрын
Bell sense works but don’t expect perfect results, it works 70-80% of the time
@stupik666
Жыл бұрын
Would it expand the Roland SPD-SX? I see it would not work with Alesis Strike but no info regarding the SPD-SX...
@TheeDrumWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
No, it wouldn't. There is no way to trigger sounds that aren't already assigned to a pad zone on the SPD-SX, so there are no "extra" sounds to trigger. All inputs can already be split with simple Y cables so you can have a pad per sound without the need for extra hardware.
@BrandonWells
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to find one of these for sale for 2 months now lol. Does anyone have one they are willing to sell? Looking for the 4-input one but at this point I’ll take the 10
@KiddiAgnars
Ай бұрын
what hi-hat is that you are using?
@Old_Toby
Жыл бұрын
Will this work with Drumagog VST plug-in?
@bwclay
Жыл бұрын
I purchased the Edrumin10 to expand by Mimic Pro which is maxed out of ports. How do I hook it up without a computer and add say an extra cymbal or two? Can someone provide a basic instruction for this. Which cords do I use and where to plug them in precisely? Thanks, I am pretty new at this.
@steevidrums
2 ай бұрын
You can use it in stand-alone mode via a 9v power supply like shown in the video and then connect an iPad/iphone/android device via the usb port.
@petterrong1590
Жыл бұрын
Is the software actively processing the data or is it just a controller for the device?
@fabianbrooks6385
Жыл бұрын
can you use this with Abelton Live?
@randalscandal1588
2 жыл бұрын
Would you trust it in a live situation? That's my biggest issue.
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