Thank you for making this video! Now that we know more details, it's clear it's really not pay to win and offers nothing you can't get in game (in fact you could say it's "mid"), so I'm much happier with it. What has honestly annoyed me is the negativity and outrage that turned out to be uninformed, impulsive and premature. Honestly, it brought out some of the worst aspects of the community. The backlash caused by the initial announcement got media coverage by gaming news outlets, but in the world we live in, the "correction" won't get the same media attention because "negativity sells".
@lootandgrind
4 ай бұрын
They will jump at any chance to bash the game. It doesn't matter, real players will always be here o7
@Wyvernaut
4 ай бұрын
0:09 "Even folks who haven't touched the game in years..." Yeah, that comment was pretty spot on. The best description I've heard for the buyable ship-builds is that they're "pay to catch up", which seems to be pretty widespread in online games, tbh. I might even dob in myself, for early access to the Python Mk2 if it helps keep the servers running.
@wstavis3135
4 ай бұрын
Right? The fact that some uninformed and mentally deficient players have no common sense. I'm happy that Fdev is working to create cash flow in order to keep the game going.
@MrPelzi91
4 ай бұрын
if you can buy a decent ship with real world money that means it is pay to win it doesn't matter if you win in pvp, pve, exploration whatever. Pay to win is pay to win it is bad no matter what. There is no pay to catch up, pay to progress faster etc etc those words are just coming from people defending their favorite game and don't want people to say any bad things about their game.
@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity
3 ай бұрын
"Pay to catch up" or "pay to advance" is still pay to win. It's still gaining a time advantage over someone who didn't pay.
@Wyvernaut
3 ай бұрын
@@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity Dude, there's folks who have been playing the game for close to a decade now. I'm not sure any starter ship is going to give some nOOb a 'time advantage' over them at this point. In an ideal world... sure, no pay to advance, grind like the rest of us had to. But in that ideal world, the Frontier servers would be a UNESCO world heritage site, carefully tended by Tech-Friars of the Order of St Braben. Alas, we play in a live service game whose continued existence is dependent on Fdev, a company seemingly more interested in games about theme parks or formula one management. So yeah, something that puts some money in Fdevs pockets and keeps the bean counters from pulling the plug for a while... as long as they're not selling Imperial Cutters or weapons or modules that are only buyable with ARX, I'm fine with it.
@mikewaterfield3599
4 ай бұрын
Im 4000 hours in at this point. FDev would have to do something really intolerable to drive me away. Besides, I have enough ARX laying about for “early access”. Lets put this in perspective, how many of us spent more than this on the famous “horse armor” DLC? Nothing is exclusive to RW trading. So I take no issue with it. My biggest complaints to Fdev, why the hell is there no navigator on my carrier, and why the hell do I have coffee makers on more than one ship and have no HUTTON MUG FOR THE COCKPIT! Seriously I would spend stupid arx for it!
@nemong6167
4 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you, I would even go to the extent of paying monthly fees if it meant that the developer would introduce new materials into the game. Keep up the good work mate.07
@ShinigamiAnger
4 ай бұрын
A monthly fee to get actual content and maintenance would be good, I've done in other games and it's perfectly fine. The problem here is completely different, it's amazing how people are willingly refuse to see it, making all the possible exuses and arguments to rationalize it at all costs.
@dwsnz
4 ай бұрын
Yep, Burr Pit did a good even headed video on this too. All the pearl clutching will pass. Thanks for helping the antidote to the hyperbole.
@luckybrand6762
4 ай бұрын
It is such a breath of fresh air when a level headed person looks at patch updates. Thank you. Cheers man.
@mechagenide4612
4 ай бұрын
Nice video. A big part of me feels people are posting things that are obviously false or exaggerating the truth to get clicks and arguments in the comments section. Good on ya for rising above this!!
@EricLing64
4 ай бұрын
Haven't touched the game in a while, but if I recall correctly, it didn't take that much effort to grind up to an Anaconda. Just have to find the right contracts and stuff, maybe I got lucky. Had a lot of really profitable cargo/trade missions. Kind of wanted to go for a Cutter, but I think there's a rep grind for that that does take a bit longer. There are things to do other than fight other ships, so "winning" can be done however you like, I think.
@cmdrblp
4 ай бұрын
It’s been interesting to observe where members of the community chose to draw their line in the sand (hint: we’re gonna need a bigger beach). Comparisons between two new players, one paying for ships with ARX and one with credits are somewhat flawed. There’s not enough information released to know if the new Python is going to be available while CMDRs are in the introductory Pilots Federation area. As soon as a CMDR leaves that area they are up against seasoned and experienced players with much larger, more powerful ships anyway. I initially was going to wait to buy the Python Mk II with in game credits but I’m likely going to buy with Arx. Not because I’m trying to gain some kind of advantage, but rather I’d like to experience a different flight / handling characteristic and try new things. Because it’s been a while since we’ve had the opportunity to fly something new. Also it’s a good mechanism for FDEV to gauge interest from the player base for future optional revenue streams (emphasis on the optional). Thanks for the video.
@lootandgrind
4 ай бұрын
Well said o7
@odysseyisland2235
4 ай бұрын
I'm just glad that the Devs are still giving the game attention. If selling these ships helps new players get started, I'm totally fine with it.
@Thorned_Rose
4 ай бұрын
The outrage machine is a runaway train. Which is so sad because it brings out the worst in our wonderful community. My spouse has been a long time ED player, almost from the beginning and I've been a commander for about 2 years now. It has quickly become my all time absolute favourite game/simulator (and I've been gaming since the 1980s). One of the things I love most about this game is the community, yet in that same timespan I've seen increasing toxicity with little critical thinking. At this point I've all but given up on the larger community and gone back to just playing with my spouse and doing whatever tickles our fancy. I'll also keep financially supporting Frontier because servers and dev don't pay for themselves (and yes I have 'purchased' the Python Mk II and loving it!).
@Sighman
4 ай бұрын
Re the Python Mk II and paying for 3 months early access ... the funds from the early unlock could be lucrative enough for FDev to continue adding new ships and vehicles like this in the future, but without locking them behind a paywall. Who wouldn't like a skimmer SRV, for example? And not to open another can of worms, but imagine if they made a ship interior for the Anaconda or DBX, and then offered it for ARX with three months early access? After the three months everyone gets free access to it. If this type of monetisation turns out to be profitable, it could extend the life of Elite indefinitely.
@marmalade6681
4 ай бұрын
Just a different thought on the new ships like the Python mk2. Other companies, FDev could have done this also, would have bundles all 4 ships into a new 'addon pack' making anyone that wanted them have to pay to unlock them.. At least this way if you wait a little you can get it for in game currency :) Also, even though you didnt mention it, it will only be available to people that have the current game version meaning people that have bought odyssey. That also is not uncommon among games.. I think of it like, you want more updates? update your game and you can have them :) For free server access and updates (not expansions) i feel that this is not something that is too much to ask for. I remember back when Horizons was released. About a year later Beyond was given to anyone that already had Horizons for free, so its something that has been done before anyway. If you look at the content Beyond gave its quite possible it could have been made a whole new expansion (maybe mini expansion) Thankyou for your Vid. a thumbs up from me :) Have a good one.
@Trezker
4 ай бұрын
Maybe it would be good to make the game easier to explore ingame. Old players had to stumble upon lots of stuff, then created guides and tools to find all things. I'd like to not have to tab out of the game to find material traders, goods and all sorts of other stuff. Any usability improvements would be great.
@gregbower245
4 ай бұрын
Pay to skip progress systems are pretty established in MMOs. It’s hardly worth all the hand wringing I am seeing. This is very mild and not intrusive at all. It’s not like you have to pay to get better equipment.
@antwan1357
4 ай бұрын
6066 hours space trucking bgs in elite dangerous , and listening to this video.
@balazshajdu4612
4 ай бұрын
Finally someone understood the concept of prebuilt ships without shouting oh no pay to win in Elite! ... thanks for making this video!
@GregWilson635
4 ай бұрын
I've been bewildered with all these KZitem channels screaming Elite is going P2W . Seriously, how do you win at Elite? It basically has no end game. Even once your Elite in every area there is still plenty to do. I've been playing since since the Alpha and I still find things to do.
@thatgregguy
4 ай бұрын
It’s definitely not paid to win when a ganker or someone attempting to gank me in a Python MK II runs away from my IEagle.
@tiberiusdave252
4 ай бұрын
Thankyou. A balanced response. I’ve stopped watching the bigger your tubers like OA and Yamiks. They are just attention seeking (like the donkey from Shrek: ‘Pick me. Pick me!’ It is not pay to win. Python mk 2- you either buy it with real money now or just wait three months. That is not really pay to win: 3 months. People might not like it (fair enough) but it’s not really pay to win. And it’s either this or spend £10 a month for a subscription to the game (which it could have but has never done. )
@markthompson1520
4 ай бұрын
It's not pay to win. You can earn EVERYTHING that they put into that store. You can get uo to 400 ARX a week ffs.
@lordwontner3936
4 ай бұрын
Yep I’m with you it’s not pay to win pay to win is getting an op ship with all the bells and whistles that will beat other players or npc’s this is not that great video as always
@thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970
4 ай бұрын
I think a big part of their problem is a lack of ships. They basically have a handful of really good ones, another handful of very specialized one or 2 use ships, and the rest most players wouldn't use once they have enough cash for basically anything else.
@lootandgrind
4 ай бұрын
Hopefully, these new ship varients will fix that
@wilkoplabst8447
4 ай бұрын
buying early access to the MK2 for ARX does NOT automatically mean using real money. Many players like me, who spend a lot of time playing the game, will have sufficient ARX to buy the ship from in-game activites. For me personally it boils down to the MK2 vs. a new skin for my carrier, which is in the same ballpark costwise. So you won´t see me going ballistic over this change. I think there is a lot of clickbait hyperbole going on right now.
@lootandgrind
4 ай бұрын
Very good point
@Punnikin1969
4 ай бұрын
You can pay $10 to get the Python Mk II from the cash shop or you can wait to buy it with in-game credits, but only if you have Odyssey. You can also get prebuilt ships that skip a lot of grind, and that can easily lead to paying real cash to buy other engineered parts in the future. It's a step toward a scenario that could easily cause a massive imbalance in Elite, especially in PvP. What they offer now seems tame enough, but it opens the door to a real problem and Frontier have already shown a proclivity to leaving parts of their game wildly imbalanced. I would say there is most definitely a cause for concern here.
@Profane_Pagan
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your sensible approach! o7 That dilettante and toxic Yamiks is the bane of our community.
@saleseng
4 ай бұрын
Yamiks Is purely a digital creator looking to exploit controversial topics after elite proved to be too much for his brain to handle he simply converted to full-time exploitation of the considerable player base for whom the game was also just more than they could process in their small brains
@Thorned_Rose
4 ай бұрын
* waves at Pagan* o7
@Profane_Pagan
4 ай бұрын
@@Thorned_Rose *waves backl * Hello! :) o7
@sausageslaps
4 ай бұрын
id pay 10 bucks a month for access to the game if they needed it
@DUEL.FATALIS
4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the point of Yamiks and other members of the community massively STRETCHING the definition of P2W to make this fit. Helps no one and just stirs up hate against FDev. They’ve messed up in the past but this is actually a great move on their part.
@user-ji7lb2bh5j
4 ай бұрын
Yamiks just crybaby soyboy, nothing new
@steve6290
4 ай бұрын
It could also open up a whole new Game play. Imagine PvP Duels in Ships without Rebuy's ? Ouch
@Dydreth
4 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan at all, but it isn't game breaking. It does make some sense to help newer players find their way into new careers more easily. I'm happy to purchase things like paint jobs and other non essentials to help support the game, though.
@zeazevedo
4 ай бұрын
There is no possibility of paying to win in a game that has no conditions for winning. How the hell do you pay to win in a game that you don't win or lose, you just play according to your own goals? In addition to that, we will always have the possibility of playing solo or in PG's, which guarantees that we would only find those who pay to win if we wanted! At most, if FDev made the worst decision, the game would become about paying to have what others don't have... but whoever paid would continue to gain nothing, other than bragging rights.
@LiveseyMD
4 ай бұрын
You pay to skip a bad boring gameplay. You pay to save your time. Also, these two ships are only example. Tomorrow they may put fully engineered PvP FDL (0 rebuy cost), so those who pay can invest their time into training instead of grinding.
@filmkungth830
3 ай бұрын
you are not skip gameplay. you still have to grind
@LiveseyMD
3 ай бұрын
@@filmkungth830 Please explain.
@filmkungth830
3 ай бұрын
@@LiveseyMD get a engineered/guardian module without unlock the engineer/guardian doesn't count as skip gameplay. example you buy pre-built explore ship with G4 FSD booster but now you want G5 and that when you have to go through unlock process watching youtube tutorial like everyone else do
@LiveseyMD
3 ай бұрын
@@filmkungth830 I will repeat it again: nothing stops FDevCorp from putting highest grade anything to the shop already tomorrow.
@trigg-n7309
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, Commander. o7
@FSDraconis
4 ай бұрын
I gave a like and subscribed just for the title. This is completely hitting the bulls eye as it is. Personally, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if the builds were better. I'd like to understand more about the in game delivery. I would like to see a more broad listing of ships. There are a broad range of players and ships. I have been playing on and off since beta. For me the earlier jump start options won't interest me. I have multiple chieftains, multiple kraits, multiple corvettes and one cutter. If I could buy a cutter and corvette to reduce rebuy costs. I would be interested in that depending on the price. If I could drop rebuy from 22m down to 5m I'd be more likely to experiment in AX with the bigger ships as I am really really a noob in that department. I always measure the time it takes for me to earn that money versus the time to lose that money. It takes me a lot more time to earn 22m from bounty hunting compared to how quick I expect I will lose a corvette in AX combat in comparison. I usually fly a chieftain and have less than a 4 mil rebuy but it has a lot less modules and lower health. Those are my thoughts. Sorry for the big block of text to anyone that takes the read.
@brotakul
4 ай бұрын
Finally someone who gets it!
@alezandercorben4122
4 ай бұрын
At last, someone talking sense.
@alezandercorben4122
4 ай бұрын
3 months is perfect for the early access, any less and no one would buy them and just wait for release.
@PeterCadier
4 ай бұрын
I think it it refreshing the game and looking forward to Power Play 2.0 very much
@alexzk3
4 ай бұрын
Problem is re-buys. How they will solve it. Let's say u're new, you bought new ship, detached from the ground, hit the wall and explode. You have no ship for real money and no credits to get it back. It's a refund or lawsuit. So they will be forced to set 0 price tag on it which means 0 re-buy. And than this ship will OP for anything you do in the game = game killing ship. So until we see exact solution of the re-buys ...we should wait, yes. Another smaller worry is about engineers. They're gona to sell pre-engineered ships. Why would they make easier in-game use of them than ? I would expect they will make it so hard that you will run to open the wallet. Will see too. But I'm pessimistic again about those updates.
@Tamburello_1994
4 ай бұрын
If that chieftain or Type-6 scares you -- delete your account.
@milesredford6913
4 ай бұрын
rebuy is 0 unless things get added, then its the insurance for new items only pay to win cant happen in a game with no goalpost. I think its great that they are trying to stay online. I'd like to rent or build on request. I already have over 1200 ships, fdev can have a cut or figure out a way to use us as suppliers or something not interested in profit. i build because i can and what else is there to spend cr and mats on?
@alexzk3
4 ай бұрын
@@Tamburello_1994 It's just a start. It will be all ship there I bet.
@alexzk3
4 ай бұрын
@@milesredford6913 rebuy 0 means you can do any shenanigans at no cost (including killing other players, which was low cost already).
@milesredford6913
4 ай бұрын
i still dont see a prob. when everyone could buy vettes,condas,cutters thanks to mining.and carriers, sooo many cmdrs do NOT have the skill or the know how to KEEP them. you can't buy skill or experience i see many t-6's and chiefs dying all the way to lessons learned.
@sausageslaps
4 ай бұрын
finally someone sees the truth, its not pay to win at all. all the haters got an excuse to come out and cryhard about it.
@soulofachristian8704
4 ай бұрын
Lol I just downloaded it, I'm playing to learn.... I'm getting there tho...
@jordanbrancato7026
4 ай бұрын
i play solo so personally i wouldn't care eitherway
@anon2036
11 күн бұрын
Asking for money to skip the grind is admitting that the grind sucks. Sucks so much that people would pay not to do it.
@saleseng
4 ай бұрын
Remember all the elite players they were ranting and posting online about how they were leaving elite dangerous and star citizen will get all their money from now on?😮 and these are the same people probably bitching about Pay to win come on what hypocrite’s🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@hideshisface1886
4 ай бұрын
I'd say this is "baby steps" creeping death kind of thing. Or "boiling the frog" scenario we are dealing with. And when it comes to scummy mechanics and pay2win deal, they always sweeten this with poison words, playing around semantics and downplaying what it really is. It stops being pay2win only if you change the definitions. The fact that the new ship is ready and will be purposefully delayed is a definition of pay2win. And it shows that devs are more than willing to compromise their game for it - all the while plenty of issues persist, like questionable balancing of engineering upgrades or miserable state of the whole footslogging segment. People are right to be wary of this, because this has all the hallmarks of slippery slope scenario in the making.
@TheGremalin
4 ай бұрын
It and star Cirizen are worse: Their pay-to-Demo
@fartex1
4 ай бұрын
i dont know, buying a ship for arx that is actually not that good is now pay to win? heh... the loadout suck to be fair.
@douglasharbert3340
4 ай бұрын
You can't win Elite, therefore Elite can never be pay-to-win. 😉
@raysstlyn6346
4 ай бұрын
Grind is your win
@andrewmiller4753
4 ай бұрын
Totally - people are ridiculous.
@sennemaa5976
4 ай бұрын
I am fine with this.
@torquaymouse2236
4 ай бұрын
Well said!
@CONTINGENCY_sys
3 ай бұрын
Pay to win. The ships are not only available to new commanders, not only available in solo mode, not only available in starter location, not measured with the same loss assigned to other ships in the game, not measured with the same duration of aquirements as other commanders have and still do require, the same measure of success and fail is not applied when commander to commander is measured with prebuilt vs acquire. Its pay to win.
@julienduseyau703
4 ай бұрын
You completely left out the time factor: If you can afford it with real money, you can get a better ship SOONER than the players who cannot and you can more easily shoot them down. This is literally the definition of pay-2-win.
@Thorned_Rose
4 ай бұрын
Except none of the ships on offer are PVP ships. None have engineering. Anyone could in a fairly short amount of time get something similar together or more PVP orientated and go and gank/grief noobs. The overwhelming majority of griefers have already been playing the game for hundreds of hours and are in PVP G5'd ships. That's not even addressing the fact that this is a sandbox, open ended game and there is no "winning". Or the fact that players don't have to play in Open lol.
@filmkungth830
3 ай бұрын
yeah shoot other player down with ax ship. other player maybe manage to get anaconda in less then week
@anon2036
11 күн бұрын
Engineer the problem. Sell the solution. The problem being the grind.
@gabeghiby6935
4 ай бұрын
why is everyone so scared of pay-to-win..??.. it's a necessary evil, it's the nature of the beast, it's what all studios and/or publishers do to keep the lights on, or the game on to keep going... why is it such a big deal..??.. they need to make money somehow, someway... since no one is offering them donations, what else should they do..??.. and those first steps are not even pay-to-win, so all the creators are using the topic to get more likes and shares, and subscribers to please the algorithm... but, Fdevs will introduce to ED pay-to-win sooner or later, there is no way they can survive otherwise... just look at big names, Eve Online, GTA Online, ESO, and I could go on and on... so what if they introduce pay-to-win..??.. pay, if you are so inclined, or don't pay if you hate it that much, is that simple...
@nydaarius6845
4 ай бұрын
Elite needs anti aliasing way more than anything else ffs xD
@netwarrior1000
4 ай бұрын
Of course it isn't P2W, but it is typical of entitled gamers today to knee-jerk and claim the sky is falling. Sensationalism by certain creators for clicks/views has been ridiculous.
@mikewaterfield3599
4 ай бұрын
That is not really entitled. The average elite player being vocal on these channels has over a thousand hours. That is your core audience. Many a company these days has learned the hard way what happens when you piss in the cheerios of the core audience. For myself, I see it as a minor boost. Besides, at this point I have 26k ARX laying about. Ergo I’m getting early access to the python 2. My biggest complaint about elite? I want a DAMN HUTTON MUG FOR MY COCKPIT!
@ShinigamiAnger
4 ай бұрын
I bet this is just the first step, time will show you. You'll be able to buy and bypass everything, from engineers, to system permits, to influence with factions and super power rankings. But I'm sure even then people will be condescending, like "it's good for content creators who can focus on actual content" or "it's good for people who can actually focus on their goals" like the path to get there is nothing. What gaming has become....
@enrogae
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your content as a positive counterpoint to much of the constant negative criticism of others, but I do disagree here. Pay to win still applies even if it doesn't guarantee a literal win. By definition, these changes still fall within the P2W term and I don't believe these changes are a net positive for the game. This isn't player or game first, it's greed first. They created the (grind) problem and are now charging for the solution, introducing a paid early access for the first new ships in years, and have increased the arx prices across the board and even double or more in some cases. None of this solves any of the issues of the game or does anything to improve it other than to milk the already dwindling player base for more money. It's about trying to make money from as little effort as possible. I want the game to succeed. I love Elite. I wouldn't be complaining if they added more cosmetics to the store. If they added new carrier interiors, HUD or cockpit customizations, etc. I would've gladly paid to support it. Lord knows I've spent plenty in the Arx store in the past. Instead, these changes have made me decide to not spend another dime on the game because I refuse to support these types of EA-like tactics. I respect your viewpoint even though I disagree strongly. I just see this as the beginning of a bad path forward that I've already seen happen far too many times in other games, and it makes me sad because this is one of my favorite games of all time.
@cmdrls212
4 ай бұрын
5 stages of grief begins with denial 😉
@adrianwilliams6577
4 ай бұрын
Calling Elite Pay To Win isn't inaccurate, Elite's PTW feature will run for months or years to come as Frontier are planning to drip feed us ships as slowly as possible. Non Arx hoarders need to accept not having the best ships in the game, this is what happens when live service games aren't in the Steam top 100.
@noble6978
4 ай бұрын
Being able to purchase ships with fully engineered equipment, tech broker locked equipment, and no rebuy is by definition pay to win. This isn’t complicated
@chryc1
4 ай бұрын
Yea but the module are lock on the ship
@Tamburello_1994
4 ай бұрын
Win what?
@noble6978
4 ай бұрын
@@Tamburello_1994 the classing troll comment, the win is that you remove ALL risk and a significant portion of grind. This breaks numerous elements especially BGS since there is 0 repercussions to players who use these ships. Also it’s quite obvious they’re gonna expand on this to make it even more predatory and like scam citizen, I genuinely cannot believe people don’t see this
@crazygolm
4 ай бұрын
I have to respectfully disagree. It's pay to skip, not pay to win. I know that sounds picky but it's important. Based on the builds we've seen, they're going for a "starter pack" style thing, not "buy endgame ship to skip all progression and outclass everyone else immediately". That AX Chieftain build, even with the G5 thrusters and the modified Gauss cannon, still has a lot of room for improvement - e.g. if you wanted to make it a PvP hull tank (or even a better AX hull tank), you'd have a lot of engineering to do. So as long as they keep it balanced like this, in my opinion it's fair enough. This is coming from someone who at first actually wasn't that happy with any non-cosmetic microtransactions coming to Elite.
@chryc1
4 ай бұрын
@@crazygolm yea like i said is like a lvl token in a mmo rpg
@CrimsonGamer99
4 ай бұрын
The ships being almost totally stock doesn't justify it. The problem is that this is a slippery slope.
@Profane_Pagan
4 ай бұрын
The slippery slope was years before under one of your video regarding new ships you told your followers that they need come together and bully the devs to get what "we want in game". You literally used the verb to bully. Don't even start denying it, I saw it with my own eyes. Dial down your negative player engagement. This is just a jumping board for casual players with no time and some surplus money to get their bearings faster in ED, it won't affect the game world or others' playtime. If such a weak starter ship would shoot you down you would simply be a loser and the ship would not be pay to win.
@Tamburello_1994
4 ай бұрын
Oh geez. (eyeroll)
@marmalade6681
4 ай бұрын
Everything in this game except the purchase price and expansions are free. It may take grinding and time to get, but its all provided free. it costs money to pay staff, maintain and run servers. Without something to generate cashflow it will be switched off. Vote with your feet or your wallet as people say. You ARE entitled to YOUR opinion :) Im allowed to have my opinion also. All i ask anyone to do is form their own opinion and not just take other peoples word for things.. Otherwise we will be no more than sheep
@Profane_Pagan
4 ай бұрын
@@marmalade6681 you also need to remember that the pipeline of these extra additions of the game, namely new ships cost money too. In this industry the average cost of employing a dev is 8000 GBP (with liability fees, license fees, taxes etc). Even if we count with an absolute minimal dev team where almost every dev does the work of two, through several months of man-hours a single ship still costs Fdev 150 000 GB at the minimum. No wonder most of the other games sell these DLCs to recoup the costs. But ED will give it us for free after 3 months. I will still buy the ship at full price (third Arx package even though I have enough arx to buy it for 50% of its cost). I want to support the development of new ships which the community was asking for years. o7
@TheLotw
4 ай бұрын
So instead of fixing the game balance, make it so you can buy ships instead.
@crazygolm
4 ай бұрын
They're fixing the game balance too? They announced engineering changes were being investigated (and gave a non-exhaustive list of points)
@marmalade6681
4 ай бұрын
The game isnt balanced? im not sure what you mean? please explain?
@bloodgulchpatrick
4 ай бұрын
@@marmalade6681 some weapons are with greater damage output while being way more convenient to use than others, some weapons are outright useless trash. Some ships are never flown by people because they are worse than their competition in most ways. Engineering is not a side-grade, it's a straight up upgrage: with proper engineering, ships outclass unengineered ships tremendously... while there are engineering blueprints that nobody uses because, well, they have no place when there are good ones around.
@nolimetangere2364
4 ай бұрын
LOL. Everyone is still talking about this old, dead game. Like who cares if it is or isn’t pay to win? The tiny remaining player base on pc?
@LarryDerDicke
4 ай бұрын
I will get me the Python Mk II on May 7th and happily beta-test it! I want to support the development of Elite and I'm quite happy that all the new content isn't locked inside a big new DLC costing 35 bucks but rather do I pay 10 bucks to test a new ship.
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