Honestly i wouldn't say Willanów is the "future of Poland" it is Poland now, thats how the majority of modern housing building in cities look. The reason it is so well known is because back in 2002, it was sensational and modern and new, and indeed what everyone wanted, now i would say its pretty much the standard for the last at least 10 years
@user-bx2rx4bn9q
9 күн бұрын
Since Biedronka were built in Wilanów, it's not exclusive anymore 😂
@magdalenastrzelinski5617
10 күн бұрын
For averge Pole that kind of flat like in Wilanów is not affordable. Too expencive. But if you go to some town 100 km from Warsow you notice that new building projects are similar to those in Wilanów and much more affordable. There is as well other phenomenon. People are buying or building houses outside of cities. The Polish village has a lot of new inhabitants. Personally I know people who escaped from big city and it is not a single case. In that way they win better space to live (a spacious house) for less.
@piotr5338
7 күн бұрын
No właśnie o to mu chodzi .Przecież powiedział o exportowaniu tego typu pomysłu do innych miast .To oczywiste , że lokalizacją w Ciechanowie na przykład będzie wielokrotnie tańsza niemniej komfort życia może być ten sam jak nie wyższy. Ps W dziesiątkach miast i również tych do 100 tus są takie osiedla w dużej ilości Inwestycja sprzed 22 lut rozsiała idee po Polsce .
@waldek2303
3 күн бұрын
Akurat Miasteczko Wilanów w czasach gdy je sprzedawali nie było szczególnie drogie na mapie Warszawy
@kasiakarewicz1210
9 күн бұрын
Nowadays, flats are expensive not only in Warsaw, but generally anywhere ...in Poland... in Europe... In Warsaw as in every capital city you pay extra. Other so expensive cities in Poland are Kraków and Katowice. If you check prices very well, is not so big difference between old architecture and newer one... localization makes a price, and I prefer newer, than pay extra for modernization of all installations, which will be needed, and in summary you will pay the same. Everywhere in EU you have the same problem, young couples living with parents, or renting flats for many years, because they don't afford for their own, or have no creditworthiness.
@stanisawkorzeb1332
9 күн бұрын
Central planning, this concept of city inside a city, tram connections, schools, playgrounds... all of this was also included in so called "bloki". Also, you can find the same modern flats in every Polish city. I don't see what's the deal here. Prices? Well if you live in "bloki" in Warsaw you can sell it and buy a small house with a garden in countryside. In the same way as you can sell your 25m2 in New York City and buy a home somewhere in Wyoming boondocks.
@obsessedwolf
10 күн бұрын
Wilanów is a nouveau riche backwater (nowobogackie zadupie) where there is nothing except a big church, it is hard to get there without a car. Modern buildings, not too high, with security, underground parking and green areas can be found in almost every part of Warsaw and there is good public transport, close to schools, kindergartens and many other things that are missing in the town of Wilanów.
@barbac3742
10 күн бұрын
Not true. There is already a newly built tram line to Wilanów, it'll be opened soon
@moni1383
7 күн бұрын
Dowartościowałeś się? Wolę całe miasteczko wybudowane wg pewnych standardów a nie plombę wbudowana w syf z PRL lub rozwalające się domy przedwojenne (Praga) gdzie masz patoli pod oknem.
@moni1383
7 күн бұрын
Jeździmy do pracy autobusem btw. Więc beż samochodu też się da. Stoi w garażu.
@xdlol59
10 күн бұрын
Czy tylko ja wolę osiedla i bloki z PRL-u od nowoczesnych bloków. Komunistyczne osiedla to przemyślana urbanizacja, zawsze jest tam szkoła, przedszkole, sklep, park, plac zabaw itp. Na nowych osiedlach nie ma ani jednego drzewa, a budynki stoją 2 metry od siebie, jakaś masakra, patodeweloperka...
@johnsimpson5368
9 күн бұрын
prawda, ja tez tak mysle!
@Sabakinno
9 күн бұрын
I patusy w gratisie
@karolinak828
9 күн бұрын
Zgadzam się, mało tego jakość tych bloków jest lepsza niż tych nowych.
@robertklimczak5630
8 күн бұрын
Zależy gdzie . Są osiedla że prawie możesz podać kawę sąsiadowi z drugiego domu . A są osiedla gdzie jest przestrzeń. I zieleń i płac zabaw.
@Doris-mk8nk
8 күн бұрын
Zgadzam się, wolę stare osiedla
@brys555
10 күн бұрын
I've been there once due to emergency dentist visit. No, thanks... Buildings look modern but tasteless, it's nightmare to park a car, everything is gated and feels isolating. I don't understand what is all that hype about. I much more prefer living in modernised commie block. It gives sense of community and room for personal freedom. Somehow, I cannot imagine dog running loose greeting random people and barking at birds, guys hiding with beer on bench behind the bush and me fixing my old motorcycle next to carpet hanger happening in such "elite" place like Wilanów.
@zygmuntpostawa1
9 күн бұрын
I prefer bloki cuz they re cheaper, and offers more flats in it so more people can afford living in (cheaper for everyone), i also love the view from above 10th floor. Also because Usually in big buildings like bloki you almost always have small shop on floor ground. Im just sad they dont do anything with the roof of bloki, i think there could be a nice spot to chill also with amazing view on warsaw. Especially in my blok in city centre =),
@Immigrantwriter
8 күн бұрын
the roof idea sounds amazing!
@DOROTAPD37
9 күн бұрын
I live in Bielany district of Warsaw. It was built between 1950-1960 and the idea was exactly the same as you see in Wilanów. Small buildings surrounded by greenery. Please go and check for yourself. There are many places like this in Warsaw.
@marklisiecki5790
8 күн бұрын
If you travel to France you will find very similar buildings (Bloki)
@davfigue
8 күн бұрын
Before the bloki were built you still have the architecture style of the 1950s that pretty much reconstructed the destroyed city centres, E.g. Plac Konstitucy, Muranów, Bielany, Ochota (in Warsaw) or Nowa Huta in Kraków. In my opinion those are some of the best post-war developments of the XX century from practical and stylistically point of view, of course more expensive and slower to build, so it was obvious by the 60s that something like the bloki was needed which was partially prebuilt so cheaper and faster.
@agnieszkakowalska7564
6 күн бұрын
New estates often has too little space between the buildings due to economic pressure to earn so much money as you can from the surface you own... Bloki have much more green space between them, and often trees prevent from looking into windows of neighbours. Space and greenery is essential for mental and physical health, can even prevent agression. Wilanów is built too densely. Also closing "elite" spaces is a bad habit. All the spaces should be safe, clean and friendly, easy accesible, not blocking huge areas to pass to another street...
@ella.canna777
9 күн бұрын
These apartments look fantastic, but they're priced insanely high They're completely out of reach for regular people.
@AlbertoTorresr9
10 күн бұрын
as a foreigner I wouldnt like to like in Wilow... I've been in Mokotow and I prefer to be close to the river , was awesome to stay over there
@edytatehrani3934
9 күн бұрын
I grew up in blok community. They are solid buildings that can be beautified, renovated, and offer comfortable living. But I like the new concept you showed as well alongside single homes and townhouse communities. I personally really love old modernized kamienica's.I think there needs to be variety of good places for people to live.
@maggg.a
9 күн бұрын
It's not only in Poland that regular people are not able to afford more fashionable and sougth after places! At least they can afford any place. In England even regular folks can not afford to buy anything especially in London.
@wojstube9359
10 күн бұрын
I lived in 5 floor block of flats then 4 floor block and now I live in 2 floor block. We call it szeregowce. Now I have small gaden 80m2 and I'm happy 🙂
@andhw9187
9 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks and greetings from Warsaw
@yakoobski
10 күн бұрын
There is plenty of residential housing like that in Żoliborz, Wola, Ochota and all around Warsaw Districts with waaay better public transport already in place and waaay closer to the city centre or business district. Not sure what's so special about Wilanów. The massive traffic jams to get back to the city? I mean if you work remotely from home then yeah Wilanów is perfect.
@alexaus1980
9 күн бұрын
I did live in "bloki" all my life. It was a community, especially from your "klatka" (your entrance). Had many friends around it and it was super convenient to meet friends and spend time outdoors as children. I moved to Los Angeles and as much as I thought "it would be great" to live here, my children don't have the freedom or safety to go outside my building as I used to have. There are always some pros and cons and we make our choices. I love Poland and am proud to be Polish but also enjoy the opportunities that America offers.
@novy1198
9 күн бұрын
being scared to even walk outside your house is a big no for me, i could never imagine living in such a place
@ambientlife2271
7 күн бұрын
As a Polish born Aussie, the new area reminds me of Australia. Give me the blocki any-day, to me that is where there was a sense of community with the kids playing outdoors on the playgrounds.
@lesfleurs9781
10 күн бұрын
Never liked bloki. They were always so heavy and ugly looking. It always reminds me of people being ants and living in a giant. I think the shorter ones are much better and perhaps they don’t need to cost as much depending on the neighborhood. BTW, it would be great if you did videos on all the different Warsaw neighborhoods, separately not all at once. That would be interesting for us. Non-Warsaw people. Thanks.
@VigosDad
10 күн бұрын
noted! great idea!
@g.peters244
9 күн бұрын
In my opinion, "bloki" from 70-80's are better.
@T_Witek_T
9 күн бұрын
Isn't it the largest statue of the lemon squeezer?
@DS11129
8 күн бұрын
JT great history video. Poles are ones saying the old buildings were from communist time. My wife would tell of how grey they used to be and how the new paint brings them more modern; not as modern as the new buildings. Yet out of all the countries I travel I mostly only see the block apartments in old communist controlled areas. You tend not to see that in areas like Western Germany or even France despite their countries also being destroyed during WWI. In Poznan they have been on a building crunch for quite some time and lots of new apartment buildings everywhere. Even the smaller town of Wrzesnia near me has quite a bit of the newer apartment buildings that maybe have the 20 meter height rule and much cheaper than Poznan. I find in the cities Poles can afford to live as they make more money than places like where I live and multifamiles still live together or homes have been passed down. Yet I also see Poles over extending credit at high rates as loans are still newer to Poles. Or they lease cars. They seem to live well but most of it is credit. In America we see how over extending credit can affect people and sadly I think this may happen in the next few years hear in Poland unless Poles start to go back to the past in a sense and live within their means and not credit like their parents. A fun thing for people to do if they did not know is go on Street View in Google Maps. Most of the maps have past dates you can look at. In Poland it is great cause you can see how much has been built in just the last decade. All the best JT.
@PiotrJaser
10 күн бұрын
The biggest problem of "block housing estates" is their ugliness. In Poland, the most beautiful parts of cities are the so-called old cities (starówki). The 19th century also brought a lot of good architecture. The gigantic war destruction changed the face of Poland. This was accompanied by Sovietization in architecture. After 1989, we have urban and architectural chaos. Poland is becoming more and more beautiful, but there are still no coherent urban and architectural assumptions for individual cities.
@joannast3709
9 күн бұрын
I used to live in Wasaw, but I would never go back to live there, I prefer to have 130m2 house in a small village rather than flat in a blok... but I understand people are different and that's ok ❤
@CatherineHanners
10 күн бұрын
I would like to see what the inside of these apartaments look like. Looks almost like a college campus in a way.
@AlbertoTorresr9
10 күн бұрын
for you, where are the bet places to live as new guy in Warsaw? I've lived in front of the Kultural Palace and I liked so much
@aleksandrakoc1431
10 күн бұрын
People can't afford a regular flats, never mind places in more posh areas.
@katarzynaprzychodzen6230
10 күн бұрын
i call the high ones “wiezowce”.
@wolbashi
10 күн бұрын
I live in Wilanów but not in miasteczko. I liked the concept and idea, but since the very beginning it struggled with public transport, public schools, road network etc. It is getting better and better, there are more buses to choose from, tram is in making, more schools, shops, health care etc. But I don't see myself living there. You asked if average Pole could afford flat here, for sure not now, but also since the very beginning of was advertised as posh place, royal, for elites. The lower buildings the higher prices, you pay for that luxury of having less densely inhabited neighborhood 😊
@aileenmarzanna
10 күн бұрын
Nah, the average Warszawiak looking to buy a new flat in the same sort of style as Wilanów will do so in Bemowo or Białołęka.
@next-next-finish
10 күн бұрын
I have mixed opinions about it. In Trójmiasto there are neighborhoods like Zaspa, where the bloki are getting street art and being revitalized from the inside. That's a bit nicer aesthetically but also drives prices a bit up because of gentrification. Still, you're "inside the city". With places like Wilanów, on the other hand, they're built to today's standards and probably could shape Poland culturally going forward... That whole theory that every place now looks the same, this "homogeneous pattern" for housing and all the same shops and franchises all over. I particularly think that although it's modern, it has less "soul" than bloki, despite what people say about the past and how it came along. For cleanliness and safety, I don't think it matters much - at least not in Poland. Looks a bit more like a city escape or selection of who your neighbors are. In Brazil, on the other hand, this kind of thing is the upper middle class' wet dream, not only to flash yourself as a winner (because price), but also to be away from violence, since it has guards and cameras and so on. I like to call it "modern feudal" style, since they're built for people to never leave them, with all services etc. All in all, I'd personally prefer more transport connections, where it doesn't matter where you live, you could always reach city center fast, while housing prices could at least be a bit more affordable.
@paulinalauraamelia9956
10 күн бұрын
Agree, bloki are as safe and clean as any other neighbourhood in Poland, and you don’t need extra security in this country to feel safe. This is just some posh nonsense idea. Instead of renovating something that is ours and local, they’re going to make Polish cities look like any other in Western Europe. These modern blocks are soulless. In bloki, everyone knows each other, and you live like a community, I grew up in one and even as a kid I knew every single family that lived there. In these new neighbourhoods, people don't know who lives in the next door.
@aileenmarzanna
10 күн бұрын
Those places like Wilanów are very typically Polish though. You won't find these dense 4-5 story blocks elsewhere that much in Europe, German "big boring boxes" come close, but they're different in architecture - smaller balconies, smaller windows, and I have the impression that in Poland, much more is done with the common areas outdoors. What I would like to see happening is the local governments getting involved and setting aside at least 40% of these new developments for price controlled housing; where potential buyers can buy a unit for cost price but will have restrictions on selling this apartment or charging more than a certain amount for rent if they want to rent it out for the first 20 years or so to ensure there remains a healthy stock of good quality affordable housing in good locations. And closed estates. I see more and more of them pop up, like I can understand closing an osiedle for car traffic, but pedestrians and cyclists should have unlimited access. It's nouveau riche cancer that doesn't belong in a safe country like Poland. If I were in any sort of position of power, that would be something I'd end. And even that, many of the newer blocks have underground parking, and don't need many street parking places except for a few for disabled people, visitors or workers. Just make sure there's no through-roads in the newer ones and you don't even need to block cars from entering, while cyclists and pedestrians can just go through. But stuff like Jabłoniowy Sad where they just block off access to a tram stop with a locked gate, that should just stop, and I'd love to see the city putting an end to that.
@EMicheleAdams
10 күн бұрын
I'd love a place where I can park a car nearby but still (have hope to) take a tram when traveling in town. It does look sharp but still the same thing repeatedly and I wonder if you still hear your neighbor's music. I worry it add to elitism, like the USA gentrification problem.
@kurrwa
10 күн бұрын
Bloki are for poor people, also, the soviets took over big apartments and from one apartment they made 4 liveable apartments. The western side of Poland is richer, and the architecture is much different. Housing in Poland won't be affordable any time soon, too many politicians invested in apartments. the only way to make more affordable housing for people is to change the law. As long land will be the safest investment nothing will change. Personally, I don't like modern style. It just gives a fake luxury feeling.
@porcelaingk530
10 күн бұрын
I think for foreigners it would be interesting how much is m2 in Warsaw even regardles whether it's bloki or not but where in Warsaw it is and e.g. compare it with other EU cities to give ppl perspective how crazy it got in general!
@davfigue
8 күн бұрын
Warsaw is currently averaging over 25k pln per sqm, something around 6k/sqm euros approx.
@ewamoewina
10 күн бұрын
I would like it if everyone could afford it. Unfortunately, not a single chance. You have to sell yourself or still from others to afford that shit in Poland.
@Al1en_Boy_The_5th_Kind
10 күн бұрын
Hey man, what happened with those two Americans one of them married to Polish girl and other one Polish girlfriend?
@Immigrantwriter
8 күн бұрын
they are all doing good, Phil and Vigo’s dad are very good friends actually
@Al1en_Boy_The_5th_Kind
8 күн бұрын
@@Immigrantwriter but if it was one more dude from Baltimore area 🤔
@annamaria-pv1fw
10 күн бұрын
thx
@paularmstrong6092
10 күн бұрын
My partners live in ustsnyov near the auchen so I was like I have been there while watching your video 😅
@tranngocminh269
10 күн бұрын
I can see that the only bad thing about that Wilanow is that terrible big church. The rest is cool!
@kurrwa
10 күн бұрын
imagen hating your own culture and values, thanks to church you have rights that you right now xD
@agnieszkakowalska7564
6 күн бұрын
This is not the project which won (open, friendly, democratic, green by creator of Warsaw University Library). Lider of Catholic church preffered this brutal, dominating form...
@joannamadejczyk244
8 күн бұрын
Czy chciałbyś kiedyś zamieszkać z rodziną w DR
@Immigrantwriter
8 күн бұрын
mieszkalismy rok, z kotami, nie dziecmi 😅 jezdzimy w odwiedzimy ale mieszkac na stale nie chcemy
@joannamadejczyk244
8 күн бұрын
@@Immigrantwriter Rozumiem moja córka też ma z DR mężczyznę i była tam parę razy ale o zamieszkaniu tam nie ma mowy .
@Mirabella-t4k
9 күн бұрын
Who is going to buy those new apartments if they are so expensive???
@jakub3264
8 күн бұрын
It is not at all obvious that the newer ones are much more expensive than the old ones. The old ones often have much better communication, which affects the price. Appearance is not everything. Note that this is Poland, so all these places are rather safe.
@robertlulk
8 күн бұрын
I love bloki
@alicepopovski3643
8 күн бұрын
Bs , so they all are empty because its expensive .
@mitrydatmarek
10 күн бұрын
...
@matrixmannn
10 күн бұрын
Mnie nie kręci ani jedno ani drugie. Ja mieszkam w centrum miasta, dosłownie w centrum miasta w odrestaurowanej kamienicy, z której po remoncie została tylko fasada, a wnętrza są bardzo nowoczesne z odrestaurowaną windą i garażem podziemnym i mam widok na park i rzekę. Kamienica ma 6 pięter i jest w stylu art deco ale wewnątrz został kompletnie zmieniony układ wnętrz. Idąc ulicą nigdy byś na to nie wpadł, że to jest w zasadzie nowy budynek. Nigdzie nie muszę dojeżdżać bo mam wszystko pod nosem. 😁😁
@xdlol59
10 күн бұрын
Też mieszkam w kamienicy, uwielbiam wszystko, tylko za dużo płacę za gaz (bo wysoki sufit i ciężko nagrzać mieszkanie 😖)
@matrixmannn
9 күн бұрын
@@xdlol59 Moja kamienica to tylko z nazwy kamienica. Mamy ogrzewanie miejskie i zwyczajne kaloryfery z elektrociepłowni. Nie ma gazu w ogóle.
@martajacak3248
7 күн бұрын
Mieszkałam przez dwa lata w malutkim mieszkanku w przedwojennej kamienicy na Mokotowie. Super sprawa 😍 klimat nie do podrobienia 😊
@matrixmannn
7 күн бұрын
@@martajacak3248 Większości ludziom kamienica kojarzy się ze starymi zrujnowanymi domami bez wygód i piecami i takie tam i w 90% tak jest w istocie ale to się zaczyna pomału zmieniać. My kupiliśmy mieszkanie od developera po kapitalnym remoncie kamienicy.
@kasiahalota1199
10 күн бұрын
Yes . Polish housing market sucks.
@BlaugranaFAN
10 күн бұрын
When You started talking about soviet influence I've been thinking "wait, that's not true, that's Le Corbusier idea". But then You continue. I did't live in "bloki" and I'm glad for that. Wilanow sucks, but mostly because of the people who ows those flats. Good video as usual!
@juliam.8147
10 күн бұрын
After WWII life strongly centered in the citys, while (at least in my family) the younger Generation Starts to bouild houses in the villages again. There seems to be a longing to get out of the bloki and into your own home. Also the infrastructure in Poland is growing like crazy. Villages Are turing into self sustainig cities within years. I grew up in germany but all my family still is in Poland. In Germany on the other Hand there are being no Investments in infrastructure made so there is no possibility of buying a House on the countryside and hope the infrastructure to catch up. It’s bittersweet that my cousins can not fathom that villages here will not become small towns as they do in Poland. So I do think that Poland is in a Phase of deurbinasation just because people can trust the process and new citys will pop up thanks to a government, that is willing to put in the work. I personally dont like politics in Poland but the Part about Infrastructure, creating Jobs an places people actually want to live in is left to wish for in Germany 🥲😂
@xot80
10 күн бұрын
I don't like places like Wilanów. People with a lot of money live there and they think that with this money they can do more. One will call the police because someone is listening to music too loudly, and after all he paid a million for his apartment so he deserves to calm down. Again, the one listening to loud music thinks that since he paid that much he can do whatever he wants at home. Having a lot of money very rarely goes hand in hand with good upbringing. From my experience, in old blocks of flats everyone knows each other and everyone says good morning to each other in the stairwell. In new blocks of flats people are anonymous, if you say good morning you will cause a sensation. Note that in Wilanów all private land is fenced off, each community has its own inaccessible area. Walking through Wilanów you can only walk along the street. In old housing estates everything is accessible, you live in one block of flats, you can go for a walk to another and sit on a bench there. Wilanów reminds me of an expensive prison that people built for themselves. Show the alternative, the life of Poles on the peripheries, in the countryside, in small communities.
@BratWody
10 күн бұрын
Wilanów, meh...you like that shit?
@xHyqn
10 күн бұрын
Wilanów jest zajebisty
@aileenmarzanna
10 күн бұрын
The urban architecture is really good, although I would have started with rapid transit before large-scale construction of dwellings. The people who live there... Meh. If I would need to hang out with people from Muranów or from Miasteczko Wilanów (both upper-middle class places around 16-20K/m2) I'd rather go with the Warszawiak from Muranów.
@aileenmarzanna
10 күн бұрын
@@xHyqn ist = an ;-)
@supreme3376
10 күн бұрын
@@xHyqn Tylko dla szcórków z Korporacji
@xHyqn
10 күн бұрын
@@supreme3376 Dla ludzi z normalną dobrze płatną pracą, nie znam osobiście żadnego korpo szczura na wilanowie
@jasn46
10 күн бұрын
What is this accent ? Appalachia mixed with with European ?
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