The "By all accounts it doesn't make any sense" might be one of my favorite gags in all of animation.
@scottevensen2615
4 ай бұрын
"Oh Well" 🤷♂ 🤣🤣🤣
@101jir
4 ай бұрын
And so relatable! Reality is complicated.
@ReconViper1
4 ай бұрын
That and Yzma breaking for forth wall with that WTF look while Kronk is talking to the angel and devil on his shoulder.
@gamingartbeasts
4 ай бұрын
@@ReconViper1 I thought she was looking at Pacha and Cusco. They both shrugged in response.
@mndy129
4 ай бұрын
It's so much funnier in Spanish
@keldera
4 ай бұрын
The only response to Kronk being added solely because of the funny is: Oh yeah. It's all coming together.
@robertlauncher
4 ай бұрын
He is the best character in the movie
@SuperJman1111
4 ай бұрын
And then he was such a good character that he was the star of the sequel
@nemasisdemarini8339
4 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY SAID THAT IMMEDIATELY!!
@Mariwend
4 ай бұрын
@@SuperJman1111 Sequel?
@3DSCarnaje
4 ай бұрын
@@MariwendIt's not like a true true sequel but yeah. Kronk's new groove, she says it near the end of the vid.
@eugeneomalley6303
4 ай бұрын
See, I think Ysma is honestly a perfect villain. She gets fired and then decides to go ballistic. Simple and perfect.
@libraeevee9467
4 ай бұрын
“It’s brilliant brilliant BRILLIANT I TELL YOU!” (I just had to quote her)
@TheXtremeBoltGuy
4 ай бұрын
@@libraeevee9467GENIUS, I SAY!!
@stonethemason12
4 ай бұрын
i mean. she certainly beats villains with no discernable motive whatsoever not that ive even seen the movie or know ANYTHING ABOUT IT BESIDES MEMES
@elfaro1607
4 ай бұрын
I think the initial idea for her character was so trope centric I’m so glad they changed it. Even if the person playing her wasn’t thrilled.
@crazyscarecrow8136
4 ай бұрын
@@elfaro1607 No kidding, "old villain trying to regain their youth" is incredibly played out.
@Fyrsiel
5 ай бұрын
It does not surprise me that the movie was pieced together that way. It absolutely has that energy of "oh my god, guys what if THIS happened?" "OMG YES LMAO!"
@fenixchief7
4 ай бұрын
Never seen "omg" as an abbreviation and fully spelt out by the same person before. I feel the chaos
@couththememer
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean? "Oh my god" and "OMG" totally have different vibes to them
@locrianphantom3547
4 ай бұрын
@@fenixchief7I mean, the phrases were said by two different “characters
@TheTreeLober
4 ай бұрын
It is a *new groove*
@lacey_and_her_stories
4 ай бұрын
That’s the greatest way to write with others :D
@Swenglish
4 ай бұрын
- So is the script ready for archives? - Oh, the movie is finished. - Not the movie. The...you know... *Waves frantically at interns to have them put some pages together* - Oh, right. The script. The script for the movie. The script written specifically for the movie. The movie's script. That script? - Yes! That script. *Hands over a stack of haphazardly stapled notes and documents wrapped in a sticky tangle of tape.* - Got you covered.
@GeldarionTFS
4 ай бұрын
Amazing
@CapnAlces
4 ай бұрын
I know there isn't any contest happening, but... You definitely won.
@KeenEyeStudios
4 ай бұрын
My friend… you have made the best comment on the platform.
@mick6247
4 ай бұрын
Bro this MIGHT be the script
@rexemondaforever2283
4 ай бұрын
Love that XD
@markvicferrer
4 ай бұрын
"For animation, the script is locked down before any animation is done because to do so is inefficient" Emperor's New Groove crew flying by the seat of their pants: we ain't got time for that. If it's a good pitch, it's in the movie.
@Can_Head
4 ай бұрын
The embodiment of "F*ck it, we ball" and then they won
@Good_Hot_Chocolate
4 ай бұрын
"to not* do so"
@Name-nq7tj
3 ай бұрын
Doesn't South Park also make all their episodes on the fly? Perhaps the best way to do animation is by doing things one step at a time and really fast. In this way the thing that gets promoted are the things that are funny instead of whatever else people focus on when making movies. For instance one of the worst things is when people bring in politics into movies like this or try to add weird themes. But these all disappear when everything is done one step at a time and what's funny and brings the creators the most enjoyment is what is pushed forward.
@markvicferrer
3 ай бұрын
@@Name-nq7tj South Park's simplistic art style allows for unusually quick turnaround, so their social commentary stories are very on point.
@Bluepikmin64
4 ай бұрын
I think Emperor's New Groove is an inspiration, because it's a cult classic. Disney snobs don't really like it, and Disney tries to forget it, but it has a dedicated fan base. It shows that you don't have to have something planned out and grandiose to make something that people will enjoy.
@Jckfrbn
4 ай бұрын
Disney still sells Llama parkas to this day, greenlit a tv show, and a sequel. "Try to forget it" sure Comment patch notes: Changed sequals to just sequal, realized the 2nd sequal I thought existed was just the first 3 episodes of the tv show
@andynonymous6769
4 ай бұрын
The difference between emperors new groove and wish is astounding. I can't say for sure that disney used AI for wish but it really doesn't feel human like emperors new groove does: they're like two equal and opposite extremes
@3DSCarnaje
4 ай бұрын
I feel like it's the closest we'll ever get to indie animation from a big studio. Kind of a shame when most of the time indie animation is better than the studio movies now.
@cloudskat3r
4 ай бұрын
@@3DSCarnajeI wouldn’t call it a shame. Indie animation these days has more heart and creative freedom then most things made in a big studio could ever have… generally. Of course there are plenty of big studio films where creative freedom is preserved, but indie preserves it much more consistently and often authentically. I love indie animation so much💕
@3DSCarnaje
4 ай бұрын
@@cloudskat3r Same. I meant it's a shame that the big productions so rarely match the quality of indie animations now. The only ones that I can think of that are somewhat recent are the sonic movies, the Mario movie, and the last wish.
@williamstark9568
4 ай бұрын
It's like a bunch of the disorganized chaotic creatives somehow got their shit together long enough to actually make something and this was it. It's beautiful.
@Can_Head
4 ай бұрын
Literally "Oh I like that, PUT IT IN!" and it just WORKED
@TrainerAQ
4 ай бұрын
The movie has aged like fine wine
@yizzardpalmero
4 ай бұрын
Emperor’s new groove legit was written like a dnd campaign lol
@EmptyZoo393
3 ай бұрын
Group creation. Honestly, a good campaign will be made that same way with a DM creating a thread, the players taking it and running with it, and the DM adjusting as they go.
@metamoof
4 ай бұрын
“Do you have the script?!” “Riiight. The script. The script for Groove. The script drafted specially to shoot Groove. Groove’s script. That script?” “Yes, that script!”
@LemonThymeArt
4 ай бұрын
LOL
@NemisCassander
4 ай бұрын
Oh, this is great! :) "Tell me you have the script. I need to hear these words!" "Do you need to hear all those words exactly?" "You mean it's not written!?!?" "Well, it's not as written as we might've hoped..."
@thatguyblu23
3 ай бұрын
Im sorry i have to point this out "Ah yes I love shooting animated movies" :D XD
@beanteaboy5534
4 ай бұрын
hearing Izma's voice talk about Izma is not something I was emotionally prepared for
@SeppelSquirrel
4 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, it was always so weird to hear voiceactors talk about characters as if they weren't them. My little brain couldn't separate the actor from the character! Now, all grown up, it would feel weird the other way around.
@narrowbeatle1176
4 ай бұрын
Fun story: In my Spanish class, we got to watch a movie, so I brought in Emperors new Groove ON DVD, and the class instead voted to watch Home Alone 2 over this. I have never forgiven the Home Alone franchise
@Dontclickmychannellll
4 ай бұрын
Dang bro I’m sorry
@sofiagj841
4 ай бұрын
You need to watch Shrek in Español Latino, THE BEST MOVIE EVER! Much much better than the English version
@HellecticMojo
4 ай бұрын
I mean HA2 is pretty good. It's got Tim Curry.
@swampfire6600
4 ай бұрын
your entire Spanish class committed the biggest sin
@sirflimflam
4 ай бұрын
You know I could maybe argue for Home Alone...but home alone 2? come on
@music79075
4 ай бұрын
"What. How did you guys get your movie to theaters!?" "Well you see, we- Spade, how DID we get this movie finished?" *David Spade pulls out a board with sticky notes pinned to it* "You got me, by all accounts it doesn't make any sense.."
@RepOfAntarctica
4 ай бұрын
David Spade using a Patrick Warburton character line is an interesting subversion.
@TrainerAQ
4 ай бұрын
Perfect
@reneflores5976
4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: In the LAT spanish dub, the voice of Kuzco was made in a day, that's because the original actor (who was more known for soap operas than dubbing, they do that a lot to promote movies) made such a poor job that they just decided to make a last minute replacement, it was a success and the dub of the Emperor's New Groove is one of the many loved ones here
@Liliphant_
4 ай бұрын
That's insane
@jimbeam7636
4 ай бұрын
¿They literally pulled a llama off the streets to do the, voice of course, yes?
@canalmuerto9382
4 ай бұрын
Also, in the Lat Spanish dub, the opening theme for Kuzco is sang by a popular musician from Venezuela named Oscar D' León.
@Kotifilosofi
3 ай бұрын
Sounds like that fits perfectly with the methods the movie was made with: spontaneous, honest, fun, a little bit crazy 👌
@anarchohelenism
4 ай бұрын
I feel like this is the closest we'll ever get to a fully improved animated movie.
@FiftySixishTV
4 ай бұрын
The improv really did improve it
@maximecloutier-gravel8908
4 ай бұрын
Let me be that guy. improvised* Improved is a completely different word so it makes your sentence confusing.
@anarchohelenism
4 ай бұрын
@@maximecloutier-gravel8908 I just made it a word. And you know what I meant.
@maximecloutier-gravel8908
4 ай бұрын
@@anarchohelenism What I mean is improved is already a word hence why its confusing. I did get confused otherwise I wouldn't have bothered correcting you lol.
@NeilHaskins
4 ай бұрын
@@anarchohelenism I didn't know what you meant, but it makes sense either way.
@seanmcmahon9946
4 ай бұрын
Someone needs to start a petition to get Cusco recognized as a Disney princess.
@NeilHaskins
4 ай бұрын
I'm sure he thinks he's Prince Charming.
@blu0065
4 ай бұрын
and when he protests, tell him it was a clerical error but the other princesses like him so much that it doesn't really matter and nobody wants to kick him out
@doomawsogaming
4 ай бұрын
Kronk fits better he even talks to animals
@jollyrose7198
4 ай бұрын
new film theory idea?!?
@anneo8393
4 ай бұрын
@@blu0065And he would absolutely love the attention so he would decide to stay on his own
@Cmdr_Meiloorun
4 ай бұрын
Literally watched this as a kid so much to the point that our VHS caught fire. Never before has the fear of God been put into me more than seeing kuzco catch fire along with the television.
@EJSmith145
4 ай бұрын
WHAT!? NO WAY 😭😭
@Cmdr_Meiloorun
4 ай бұрын
The funniest part is, my grandfather told me that the fire initially began after Kronk ran to get his spinach puffs 😭🤣
@EJSmith145
4 ай бұрын
@@Cmdr_Meiloorun LMAOOOO
@Cmdr_Meiloorun
4 ай бұрын
@EJSmith145 yeah, now it's just a reflex to look at the console whenever I get to that part of the movie 😭
@Em_Elizabeth
4 ай бұрын
"Is something burning?"
@koalaeucalyptus
5 ай бұрын
I never knew any of this! I knew the movie had been a flop in the US, but here in Brazil it was a hit. This makes it all the more special to know how spontaneous its creation process was! I wonder if this "no script" method would ever work again for other movies, I'd be curious to see them.
@livedandletdie
4 ай бұрын
I say more masterpieces would be created if the movies were made this way, where everyone involved gets to have a blast making it. Tons of silly jokes, visual gags, etc. Trust me when I say, that Emperor's New Groove is the best movie ever made.
@perrymeril
4 ай бұрын
I don't think it was a flop. It got an animated series afterall.
@evanmichaelpearce1367
4 ай бұрын
Mark Duplass loves this method. The One I Love is a sci-fi dramedy that only had a scene outlines, and the actors just tried to hit the points outlined while improvising the script. Same with the movie Bluejay, a black and white drama. (Both starring Mark Duplass!)
@NeilHaskins
4 ай бұрын
I didn't hear about it being a flop, but it did come out around the same time as Shrek, which could have hurt sales. I don't think Shrek was half as good, but computer animation was still a big novelty back then, so it got a lot more media coverage and such.
@eticketchannelofficial
4 ай бұрын
And now I need to know how to say "squeek squeeker squeek squeeeken" in Portuguese.
@Can_Head
4 ай бұрын
This movie is the embodiment of "F*ck it, we ball" and hits a slam dunk from the 3 point line to win the game
@henrymars6626
4 ай бұрын
My youngest sibling would loop the sequel all summer for multiple summers when we stayed at our grandparents. The line "They say eyes are the windows to the soul; hers were like triple-locked steel doors with a combination I just HAD to crack" is engraved into my soul and I wouldn't have it any other way.
@heyheyitsjae2475
5 ай бұрын
Kronk's chad walk in the background as you say "two weeks after the movie was in theaters" is everything
@dawesome_sauce
4 ай бұрын
Emperor's New Groove defined my sense of humor for the last twenty-four years.
@EmpyreanRagnarok
4 ай бұрын
There are two things that Disney has irrevocably altered in my mind: 1) The phrase "Let's get down to business" 2) The ability to pull a lever, or worse, instruct someone else to pull a lever.
@cosmicbrambleclawv2
3 ай бұрын
FACTS 😂 Ill be at work and hear someone say "Lets get down to business" and it doesnt matter what Im doing I have to yell "TO DEFEAT. THE HUUUUUUUNS"
@espvii
4 ай бұрын
So THATS why emperors new groove feels like an animated dnd campaign
@Pandie2828
4 ай бұрын
Anyone else think the og concept fo Ezma got turned into Mother Gothel? A villain obsessed with getting her glamor and beauty back and wanting to live eternally beautiful, sounds exactly like Mother Gothel. Heck could Corona not be described as a kingdom of the sun? Food for thought. (Side note Pacha's wife hitting Kuzco with pan immediately made me think of Rapunzel lol)
@Lung2691
4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Yzmas original characterisation was recycled into mother gothel, it sounded identical to her!
@PatManDX
4 ай бұрын
I also think parts of the concept of KOTS's prince and pauper story were partly reused for The Princess and the Frog. Doctor Facilier his villain song "Friends on the Other Side" also vaguely reminds me of "Snuff out the Light". Though Facilier was clearly motivated by greed and ambition rather than vanity. Generally, I think they reused a lot of ideas that worked in KOTS in other movies going forward.
@Evilriku13
4 ай бұрын
@@PatManDX what does KOTS mean?
@mistyazaleski6542
4 ай бұрын
@@Evilriku13kingdom of the Sun
@NightmareShadows13
3 ай бұрын
...y'all know Mother Gothel already existed, right? They didn't have to recycle anything for her because that's how she was in the original story of Rapunzel...
@JoJo_Binks_
4 ай бұрын
Movie: *just artists and directors having fun Audience: “Man that was so fun! I love this movie!” Hollywood: “Wait a minute, what just happened”
@arthurmoore9488
4 ай бұрын
While I haven't seen the documentary. It's probably more like having fun while spending every waking moment for a year and a half at work.
@Ferrochrome12
4 ай бұрын
Your note about CN using a more board-driven approach for their shows reminded me of something- Recently, Ian JQ (writer for Steven Universe and creator of OK KO) wrote on twitter advising people to beware of fake 'production scripts' for Steven Universe being sold on eBay and such. He noted that ANY listing for a script for the show was guaranteed to be a fake, because they NEVER USED SCRIPTS! The production of every episode was entirely storyboard driven!
@MichaelEvans-i2r
4 ай бұрын
3:44: "[The Sweatbox] has never been released officially. I'm actually unsure of why Disney wants to burry it." It's because "The Sweatbox" is a little too honest about how the sausage gets made at Disney. Their entire brand as a company is predicated on being "The Happiest Place on Earth" where everybody's dream comes true; to the point where they adopted "When You Wish Upon a Star" from Pinocchio as their corporate theme song. The experience of Roger Allers contradicts that narrative and the documentary paints Allers as being more sympathetic than the Disney executives he's answering to.
@emilysmith2965
3 ай бұрын
“Why doesn’t Disney want us to see this intimate and vulnerable moment in their art?!” Uh, Disney creatives do. Disney execs don’t. The end.
@kylienielsen6975
3 ай бұрын
It would also remind people of when they used to make good movies with feeling in them
@DJCosmicLatte
2 ай бұрын
Disney is a corporate machine churning out carefully polished products. They don't want you to know what's going on behind the scenes unless it makes them look good, and the development of these two films is far too human.
@123hattan
4 ай бұрын
Honestly no wonder so many several jokes are just so perfect: Kronk talking with his angel and demon and Yzma pointing it out at Kuzco and Pacha, Kronk and Yzma literally noticing map-markers on the floor, the whole sequence of Kronk becoming a cook. All of these were jokes that just made me crack up.
@ellierubrick5816
5 ай бұрын
It was a MIRACLE that this film turned out as fantastic as it is. I also agree Kronks New Groove is a great movie and I will die on this hill. Great video EJ! :D
@jelifishi
4 ай бұрын
my sixth grade art teacher was a storyboard artist for emperors new groove and she said it was her favorite project shes ever worked on :)
@Peace_And_Love42
4 ай бұрын
At 4:14, you ask why Disney would bury a documentary about the art and making of a movie. That's because it highlights how these things are made: by people. Disney does not want people to think about how F-ing hard it is to make quality art, they just want us to consume cheaply-made content.
@Utrilus
4 ай бұрын
They don't want us to think "these people" made the movie. They want us to think *Disney* made the movie.
@PJBarner
4 ай бұрын
I'd argue that "Into the Unknown" does a good job at showing how the Frozen 2 team worked uphill to get the movie out on time.
@NightWink129
4 ай бұрын
@PJBarner And I'd say that that movie ended up being rather generic and anticlimactic.
@mickeymuse2
4 ай бұрын
Disney also doesn't want to admit that it makes mistakes. Like, ever.
@StephenOwen
3 ай бұрын
Kind of like Nintendo doesn’t want you to think about or hear about the developers and how they made their games, but just to take it at face value . Barring some recent appearances at Game developer’s conferences when they talked about making Zelda, it’s very similar
@rexemondaforever2283
4 ай бұрын
"Eh, how would you describe her?" "Scary beyond all reason" "Yeah that's it!"
@nekomarulupin
4 ай бұрын
It's funny cause after this video, I can see each scene play out as its storyboard form, and picture how it just went directly into the film.
@Skorpeonismyrealname
4 ай бұрын
And the points where Kuzco hijacks the projector booth is just the main voice actor trying to get things back on track.
@jerpica.d6735
4 ай бұрын
Omg the fact the guy that made this also made cats dont dance makes so much sense. The vibe is so similar its insane, I would have never called it out of my own accord but once the fact is said it seems so obvious
@XxsteamerxX
3 ай бұрын
Same. My wife and I watched that one religiously, along with Brave Little Toaster (Why is the original never on any of the streaming platforms?!?). And our son loves The Emperor's New Groove
@Swagmaster1102
4 ай бұрын
"Tell us where the talking Llama is, and we'll burn your house to the ground." "Uh, don't you mean Or?" "UGH, Tell us where the talking Llama is OR we'll burn your house to the ground!'
@ZaItan1
4 ай бұрын
"That seems like a pretty crucial conjunction" Lol this exchange turned me into such a snobby, precocious-wannabe, "well actually..." kind of kid.
@mariescholl7342
2 ай бұрын
Seems like a pretty crucial conjunction
@theross
5 ай бұрын
Yep. I was lucky enough to work at WDFA at the time and...pretty much what you said. Crazy times. Bonus fact: In one of the many attempts to fix Kingdom Of The Sun, they renamed it to Kingdom In The Sun (I think I still have some crew gifts with the logo)...then eventually reworked it all into The Emperor's New Groove. Fun stuff.
@squiddler7731
4 ай бұрын
4:12 My cynical guess here is that Disney (and many other companies that want to be like Disney) doesn't want general audiences to think of media as being made by "people," they'd rather you associate movies with the company instead, or a studio that they can simply buy the name of. You see this a lot in video games as well, when it comes to credit the work done by individual people is often downplayed compared to the name recognition of studios. It doesn't mean Disney is going to start burning records and hiding credit (because they're literally not allowed to, thank you labor unions), but it does mean that they have no real interest in highlighting older documentaries like this one.
@GodwynDi
4 ай бұрын
It does feel wierd hearing "older documentaries" about stuff that came out when Ibwas in college.
@TheBreadPirate
4 ай бұрын
A few years ago I made a 7 minute video without a script. It was extremely difficult, so I can't imagine doing an entire movie like this! Great essay! You had me captivated.
@thedreadpirateblacktooth5551
4 ай бұрын
Oh hi, not who I expected to be here
@Ian-j5c
2 ай бұрын
@@thedreadpirateblacktooth5551 same
@trevorhaddox6884
4 ай бұрын
One of my favorites is the canon continuity break. "By all accounts it doesn't make sense"
@flarestarsz
4 ай бұрын
"Guys, guys... what if we turned him into a LLAMA?" "Put it in." "Sir?" "I said *put it in.* "
@SlowMonoxide
3 ай бұрын
A whole movie made via TTRPG style group improv? That's genuinely impressive, but also it kind of totally explains the excellent flow and just genuine *fun* of the film. Thanks for teaching me something cool
@samala2931
5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this has been said a hundred times whenever the making of Emperor's New Groove is brought up, but I really wish there was a way for Kingdom of the Sun to somehow coexist alongside New Groove. Great video! I rarely see people mention the final film having no script whenever discussing the making of the movie. Also, glad to hear someone else that also doesn't think Kronk's New Groove is bad lol, but what do you think of the series? It's been like a million years since I last watched it, so I don't know how well it holds up.
@EJSmith145
5 ай бұрын
WOO! Another Kronk's New Groove enjoyer!! "Let's groove tonight~!" 🕺✨ Lol I actually haven't seen the TV show, as big of a fan I am of the movie - I've seen bits and pieces, but never sat down to watch an actual episode. Always happy they gave Eartha Kitt another musical number with the song "Yzmopolis"! :)
@orangeslash1667
4 ай бұрын
@@EJSmith145 Fun Fact: How to train your Dragon also took a year, and Toy Story 2 was made in 9 months.
@ShadowDreamer100
4 ай бұрын
With the trend Disney has had of making relatively more authentic cultural movies, this could still happen.
@Maddog-eo9ud
4 ай бұрын
This video feels like I accidentally brought up someone’s favorite movie and then they just sat their and ranted about it for 12 minutes
@keyscored3710
4 ай бұрын
Aka the best kind of essays
@ltrigga219
4 ай бұрын
I saw this for the first time as a freshman in college. Dorm room full of like 7 people just all laughing ourselves to tears. Obviously it became an instant favorite for all of us, and I couldn’t wait to show my kids (favorite of theirs now too). I am in awe that there was no script, but it also kinda immediately makes sense, since it always felt like a long-form comedy sketch by really funny people. Thank you for sharing this with us all!
@RedUmbre
4 ай бұрын
it's a well known secret amongst disney animators that there's a statue of walt whipping ub iwerks like an egyptian pharoah at the animation studio.
@nullv0d880
4 ай бұрын
I’ve always stood by this movie as the best Disney film of all time (followed closely by Lilo and Stitch) Literally just the other day, I was thinking about the old man that gets tossed out the window in the opening, particularly his voice bc, going purely off of memory, I was like “huh, he kinda sounded like Piglet from Pooh Bear”. Forgot about that random shower thought until I saw this video and turns out I was right (not that it matters lol) So yeah, fun fact! John Fiedler: original voice of Piglet; also gets tossed out a window by order of Emperor Kuzco
@Schpoonman
4 ай бұрын
"Sorrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy!"
@ZaItan1
4 ай бұрын
His GROOVE! The rhythm in which he lives his life! I threw it off. And the emperor had me thrown out a window! Don't throw off his GROOOVE! Bewaaaaare...the GROOoooOoOVVE... . . . GROOoOooOoOoVE...
@peblezQ
4 ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite childhood movies. It weirdly makes sense that this movie was just thrown together with whatever made everyone laugh the hardest. It's still one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
@robertlauncher
4 ай бұрын
The problem with Kingdom of the Sun is that it wanted to do a Prince and the Pauper storyline… with the Prince being a Llama and ultimately unable to fill that Pauper role the switch is supposed to give him. One aspect needed to be discarded, and Emperor’s New Groove stuck to the Llama transformation storyline. I’m fine with that. Kingdom of the Sun, from what we know, feels like it needed a few more drafts before it had any chance at being the epic masterpiece it was envisioned as. What does blocking out the Sun have to do with Llamas thematically? Do we need a romance with the female Llama herder when we have the role swap, the evil sorceress, the Llama transformation, and the peasant trying to fit into the role of prince all in an hour and a half? Half of Sting’s songs don’t sound like completed musical numbers. What I’m saying is, it sounded ambitious, but the more I think about it, I’m glad it was retooled
@godslaughter
4 ай бұрын
I am so glad this happened, it seems when you let artists loose, very funny things are made. I dread that alternate timeline in which this movie didn't happen, they don't have Llamaposting.
@nrdkraft
4 ай бұрын
“No no, it’s not you. There’s a waaall therrrre.” Is probably the quote that comes to my mind the most, but not by much, there’s so many others
@Snoozie
4 ай бұрын
This explains the iconic "by all means it doesnt make any sense" joke and makes it even better cause legit they probably were like "How do they get there first? Idk lets just do it as a gag"
@CaseyWilkesmusic
4 ай бұрын
Even the title makes sense when you think of the movie being made from the remnants of another film
@hatertime
4 ай бұрын
The original idea was rightly criticized for being confusing. It was The Prince and the Pauper...but the then the real Prince leaves he gets turned into a Llama? Then Yzma is trying to summon the Sun god to devour the planet but the fake Prince falls for the Fiance and the Llama Prince falls in love with a Sheppard woman and then its also a Musical? It's too much at once.
@Necro718
4 ай бұрын
No wonder the movie felt alive, because it was, it wasn't just any old project, it was a passion project.
@liriohardy7240
4 ай бұрын
the sequence of your lil animated self losing it to Tom Jones brought me so much joy, the funniest thing I've seen this week, good video thank you
@DoodlesFool
4 ай бұрын
I would LOVE to write a story like this “What if [insert funny prompt]” “YES”
@ChrisGloomTube
4 ай бұрын
It's obvious to me why disney will never release the sweatbox-go look at the comments anywhere it's uploaded (and some here too) and you'll see people pining for the bad movie that got scrapped instead of the incredible, perfect movie that got made. (I saw new groove something like five times in theaters when it came out-100% obsessed) and the audience getting that takeaway makes sense-because that's ultimately what ends up being the incorrect message of the documentary itself: disney execs kill a beautiful project and make a rushed soulless cash grab comedy instead.
@anneo8393
4 ай бұрын
People who think that must not have watched the movie or have no idea how comedy works. If it was a cash grab they would have used really lame, overused jokes. You cannot have a movie this unique if you want a cash grab. In terms of comedy, this is quite literally the opposite of a cash grab, and has more comedic soul than it deserved
@ZaItan1
4 ай бұрын
I rewatched this movie recently, after Kronk retrieves the llama emperor in a bag from falling off the waterfall, it zooms out too far, zooms back in, and he's bumbling through town saying to himself "what to do...what to do..." In the best possible way, it feels like the story writers are flailing, don't know what should happen next. So they throw darts at a board, land on transition idea: "Kronk trips on a cat" And the show goes on. That chaotic energy is so perfect.
@sugar-high_kitsune
4 ай бұрын
Kronk's New Groove *is* a good movie. You are correct, and people are entitled to their wrong opinions. My favourite quote? "Three oinkers wearing pants, a split of hot air, and change the bull to a gill. Got it." I want to kiss the people that came up with every exchange in the restaurant full on the mouth. That is all.
@sepphero9639
4 ай бұрын
Fun fact, in Germany it's name was (translated) "a kingdom for an Llama"
@Brooke_Corbyn
4 ай бұрын
Emporers new groove is one of those movies that didnt grab me very much as a kid but i enjoy it more and more as i get older. Its aging like a fine wine
@Zoogore6777
5 ай бұрын
Emperors new groove is great, but I personally will always mourn the loss of Kingdom of the Sun. I’m a sucker for Prince and the pauper stories. 😂
@livedandletdie
4 ай бұрын
I won't mourn the loss of another Prince and the pauper story. Good riddance of bad overused plot devices. Emperor's New Groove has everything you need in a movie. And most importantly it's made by people who were having a blast while making it.
@101jir
4 ай бұрын
Prince _in_ the Pauper? Sounds spicy.
@Good_Hot_Chocolate
4 ай бұрын
@@101jirSounds historical
@marxmatter
5 ай бұрын
really good video!! also i feel like i need to mention it since i'm currently obsessed with it but, Yellow Submarine. Kinda like Emperor's New Groove but in its case, it didn't have a final script or storyboard, had a production of 11 months with over 200 artists working on it, which is insane to me. there should be more movies like this, no script. Since it's so fascinating..
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
4 ай бұрын
This makes me SO much more happy with my own creative process for my book; I take the themes relevant and decide how I want to progress them, I write scenes to that effect using ideas I think would be cool, then I write the scenes into chapters.
@stetson_newsie2600
3 ай бұрын
It's giving me ideas for building stories with little doodles instead of staring despondently at a blank word document.
@hollae
4 ай бұрын
no one will ever truly know how much of a hold this had over me as a kid. i remember age 12 i watched it, made all my cousins watch it, bought the sequel on dvd for christmas, discovered empire of the sun was meant to be a thing and read about the whole sweatbox situation, and then proceeded to send an email to disney that probably no one ever read about how if they ever wanted to do a more serious toned live action movie they should adapt the plot of empire of the sun. honestly younger me probably had a point there considering whatever is going on with disney remakes right now, but oml hearing the word sweatbox gave me flashbacks and i completely forgot i did all that for a mo.
@shadowregual7085
4 ай бұрын
The saddest part of Kingdom being scrapped to me is that simply, Snuff out the light, Ysma's supposed villian song was scrapped along with it. Its still one of my favorite songs period.
@chrismerrell7957
4 ай бұрын
What's interesting about the Ysma in Emporors New Groove 2 is they brought back that side of her that wanted to be youthful and it definitely didn't work in their favor.
@Flash33c
4 ай бұрын
Honestly I never knew the movie had no script, which speaks to the quality of the movie in that it still holds up regardless and that you would never know it had no script just by watching it alone. That aside it's definitely one of my all time favorite movies & I always enjoy watching it even today.
@thevanky8311
4 ай бұрын
I watched the "it was a sh*t show" on this a couple weeks back. They made it seems way more dire and stuck in production hell.
@thevanky8311
4 ай бұрын
sorry...not a negative, more please!
@egan1292
4 ай бұрын
Love when productions come together when they're down to the wire and blow everyone away. Like you said, stuff like this is a pure testament to the talent and chemistry of those working on it. Reminds me of how the work done on Halo 2 was scrapped with roughly a year before release and the team just shrugged and went on to revolutionize early 2000's gaming.
@Randomalistic
4 ай бұрын
This video has such a delightful editing style and it’s so informative and silly too OH MY GODD new sub instantly. Also because of the nordic bunny fancam
@EuphoricPentagram
4 ай бұрын
I think it would be so amazing to see what a movie that went for this idea from the beginning I love the idea of such a collaborative and intertwined process
@TheMewgen
4 ай бұрын
Kronk is just the animation team self inserting. Neither of them knew what the fuck was going on.
@thinmint5500
4 ай бұрын
The process reminds me of my own writing process🥹
@madmanjoe991
4 ай бұрын
I dont normally comment on videos, but I loved this video, for 11 minutes it went very fast and held my attention, you should totally make more like this, maybe a video about the thief and the cobbler
@GOOFYGOOFCLOWN
4 ай бұрын
I AGREE I LOVE THE THIEF AND THE COBBLER!!
@willreese7114
3 ай бұрын
This is the most entertaining and enjoyable talk about a movie I've ever seen. Usually I'm not interested in this kind of stuff, or it looks interesting but I tune out halfway through. You managed to keep my interest and make this enjoyable for me. Great job, and thanks. I think I found a new person to follow
@jayjaybob2
4 ай бұрын
This is a good example of what an animation studio could do with a budget and a co-op style development process. Focusing on the simple "what do we enjoy and want to see?" and just making that. So much of these productions goes into all the red tape and minutia that so little is left for the creative touch of those actually making the product, but that's what I want to see. I want to see something created by creative people, not the product of some conglomeration of HR, Sales, Marketing, Logistics, and Management with maybe a few creatives allowed at the table, but almost always the top brass. It just leads to the same safe, basic, predictable stories getting told over and over again.
@artloveranimation
4 ай бұрын
This was fantastic! Thank you for including the text of the stories behind different comedic moments 😂 I loved pausing and reading them all
@shalomjacobs7909
4 ай бұрын
I desperately want to read more of the notes when they were creating the scrips. Knowing the actors and writers took so much delight in Koronk’s focus being on the dinner brought me just as much delight
@sleepy.timaeus.arts.
4 ай бұрын
The music sequence and the thanks for watching card 😭😭 beautiful, thank you. And thank you for sharing this info cause that's actually insane but amazing!
@frederiklenk7756
4 ай бұрын
This gives me the vibe of iterative design-how many games and products are made. Keep testing till the thing works. Probably also why portal is such a great game. I don't think they did quite the same thing, but it certainly feels like they went down the road of "yo guys wouldn't it be funny if ..."
@leileyaravencroft
4 ай бұрын
When this movie first came out, people were not so sure it was going to be any good. I knew it would be and I needed to see it. When I did, I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! I got it on VHS (yup, that old) and would watch it over and over again. Sadly, no one else enjoyed it that I knew. Well they can all suck it! I’m not a David Spade fan (did like his work in Just Shoot Me), but I thought he did an excellent job in The Emperor’s New Groove. I actually liked everyone especially Poncho’s wife. I don’t know why… she wasn’t even in much of the movie but that woman was BOLD as heck
@9gammarays
4 ай бұрын
"No script" "What the F*** do you mean- NO SCRIPT?!" *ahem* "No script"
@galacgacwatson3102
3 ай бұрын
This movie is like a standup comedy show, and I love it even more because of it
@averagejoe455
4 ай бұрын
An old person with an obsession of youth?!? That's never happened before! So original! Nobody has ever done something so original! Oh wait, that's very common.
@sugar-high_kitsune
4 ай бұрын
This is insane always and forever, and I will forever love Emperor's New Groove. But, honestly, I kinda just wanted to take a moment to thank you for bringing back my memories of Eartha Kitt as Yzma. It was my introduction to her, and she quickly became my idol. Thank you for the memories, and RIP Eartha Kitt.
@Exas4000
5 ай бұрын
:D honestly, quite nice to get more insight on the movie's creation process
@Eira_99
3 ай бұрын
I can't believe you're not a long time video essayist, you go great editing, great manner of speaking, and are also insanely funny. Glad my recommendations was blessed with this, fr.
@MichaelBurkhalter
4 ай бұрын
Oh man, Cats Don’t Dance was a favorite of mine!
@dolfinyeti561
3 ай бұрын
I really love your energy as a creator. You’re very real and it makes your videos entertaining and funny. I really makes me feel like I took a Time Machine and I’m in 2012 watching KZitem again. Keep up the awesome work!
@magpie1466
4 ай бұрын
I LOVE Emperor's New Groove, but I gotta say I feel a little pain knowing there was an epic tale in there somewhere. That said I can't regret the funniest disney film imo
@fancydeer
4 ай бұрын
This IS an epic tale. Just bc it's wrapped in comedy and doesn't have romance doesn't make it less than any other Disney classic
@trolley661
4 ай бұрын
already seen the move, loved the movie, and can't believe it was WITHOUT A SCRIPT! such a masterpiece must be re-watched in light of this new knowledge. Also that end-screen is adorable.
@iammichaeldavis
4 ай бұрын
“Are you kiddin’ me? That’s solid mahogany”
@Kila-Innova
4 ай бұрын
Favourite Disney film ever and possibly my favourite film in general, I actually didn’t know this about it. This is so fascinating.
@enderslice8378
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, so many more movies should be made like this. It's just a perfect formula.
@StarrClaws
3 ай бұрын
You've made one of my favorite childhood movies even more near and dear to my heart, thank you.
@echogreyson1461
4 ай бұрын
So the movie based around Peru... Had no written script? Poetic.
@Sergio-nb4hj
3 ай бұрын
Oh my God this may be one of my favorite stories of art creation ever... I had no idea one of my most beloved movies had a story this interesting, thank you so much for sharing it!
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