The value of a college degree has gone down but Ivy League schools thought they were exempt from that and people realize Ivy league is starting to mean wealthy family instead of a smarter student
@johnvaleanbaily246
3 ай бұрын
Yup, too politically correct. Get back to teaching and discussing all sides of a topic, not just the 'acceptable' side.
@Seanpfree
3 ай бұрын
Not just the "Leftist" side.
@biscaynesupercars
3 ай бұрын
@@johnvaleanbaily246 i wouldn’t say politics because in things like STEM fields its mostly math and science but companies are realizing most Ivy League graduates went to the school because their families were rich or connected, not necessarily because they were smarter. That college admission scandal a few years ago showed that, all those kids lied and cheated and paid money to go to top schools.
@INgirl812
3 ай бұрын
@@johnvaleanbaily246That depends on what you consider the “other side.” If you mean magat drivel based on spoon-fed lies from fascist rightwing propagandists platforms like fox & other trash, like OANN & NewsMax who btw are not even considered as journalists, then the answer is NO, in general. However, there are classes where propagandists would be studied (not as legit sources for info), but as actual examples of fascistic propagandists, and the harm done by false narratives that brainwash gullible viewers. Psychology classes might also consider the delusion of gullible viewers who don’t live in reality because they’ve been brainwashed by ppl who get paid to lie to them for the R ‘party.’
@swarleysheen9016
3 ай бұрын
It's really not. Ivy Leagues are still incredibly difficult to get into and still retain value
@flyingcat2054
3 ай бұрын
Ivy League is where you go for connections, meet other students whose parents are connected!
@ritzbrecio
3 ай бұрын
Sounds more like a fraternity/sorority for the intellectually gifted
@TurdFergusen
3 ай бұрын
@@ritzbrecio no just people who suck at critical thinking, which appears to be intellect but in reality you can convince them of anything
@ritzbrecio
3 ай бұрын
@@TurdFergusen the cognitive dissonance as a form of cope is real 💪
@pensiveintrovert4318
3 ай бұрын
How many Hamas supporters are well connected? Most of the connected students are home, afraid for their safety.
@ST-rj8iu
3 ай бұрын
Meeting wealthy people doesn't mean they will help you. Many large corporations do not give favors.
@BrianM-44041
3 ай бұрын
It's almost like elitist schools for the rich and privileged aren't a good idea 🤔
@jamesb4789
3 ай бұрын
let the elite and privileged go there . The employers are not recruiting them.
@kreativeforce532
3 ай бұрын
@@jamesb4789 the employers are their parents. it won't be a problem for them.
@pensiveintrovert4318
3 ай бұрын
And now it's a dumping ground for people who are illiterate and innumerate. Congratulations, you got equity but it isn't doing much good.
@bobroberts2371
3 ай бұрын
Another issue is that hiring managers are completely out of touch as to what it takes to succeed in a position and only look at "paper" rather than actually talking to the canidate.
@Jimothy-723
3 ай бұрын
the issue is that managers no longer make hiring decisions. thats HR now.
@RodSherwood1
3 ай бұрын
The only difficult part of going to an Ivy League school is getting in.
@scottwaters998
3 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't want temper tantrum throwing activists. Im sure that is an asset to any company.
@glennknauer2696
3 ай бұрын
Protesting genocide is dumb, defending genocide is smart. Thats you
@TurdFergusen
3 ай бұрын
@@glennknauer2696 using the term genocide without any context or depth is dumb
@TurdFergusen
3 ай бұрын
@@glennknauer2696what is it called when 2 parties want to kill each other but one just sucks at it?
@TurdFergusen
3 ай бұрын
@@Pl-ax0 ohh like all that October stuff
@sheba8433
3 ай бұрын
75 years of opresión and you bring up Oct 7, ? I applaud these students! Standing for justice!
@user-py5zk6gb6t
3 ай бұрын
Hire the people who work and pay their own tuition. I worked two jobs and commuted two hours a day when I was in college. Didn’t have time to act like an idiot. Worked hard in my job and got promoted several times till I retired.
@nosam1998
2 ай бұрын
This is so out of touch that it's laughable.
@Mis-AdventureCH
3 ай бұрын
Our firm decided long ago to set the resume engine filters to discard anything coming in from these universities. They have produced nothing but little radicals that will be more trouble than they're worth, irregardless of whatever credentials they might have obtained (the sources of which having become questionable themselves). Our best recrutiing has been rural community colleges and state AG schools. They're teachable and eager to explore different aspects of business. The only reason I see to hire Ivy kids is if you're still flogging your firm as "Ivy League" and your customer base is legacy wealth from same.
@wolfheart3085
3 ай бұрын
Have you have your car, plumbing or air conditioning units fixed lately? My son went to trade school for computer repair and has has $150,000 career with no college. And no school debt! Cost us a total of $5000 which he had saved for his college. Needless to say, he bought a house, has a wife and kids and DOESN'T live in our basement l
@alejandrohazera7895
3 ай бұрын
Congratulations to your son. Skills are what count.
@___Anakin.Skywalker
2 ай бұрын
ya but its a dirty job. i dont wanna go to trade school and graduate to become a plumber and swim in fecal water
@jayde1009
Ай бұрын
@@___Anakin.Skywalkerhe works in computer repair, not a plumber
@Seanpfree
3 ай бұрын
ONCE prestigious universities
@nancyo6342
3 ай бұрын
When Ivy turns into Poison Ivy.
@peterl545
3 ай бұрын
I don't need an Ivy League grad disrupting my company's operations.
@cafepablo1968
3 ай бұрын
‘Entry level jobs’? Give me a break!! To them it’s $150k+ but to us it’s $70k+
@javiersaenz1040
2 ай бұрын
Or 50k
@sundager8735
3 ай бұрын
These universities are not worth your time or your money they repeatedly keep showing that, seriously what kind of education are they actually getting of value
@jamesb4789
3 ай бұрын
Sorry, but this Elitist whining. the stark truth about the Ivy leagues was clear 30 YEARS ago. Lehigh University runs a non-profit that has tracked salaries and job situations for most universities and colleges across the nation since the 1960's. the data was % with jobs at graduation, 6 months after graduation and a year later. They also tracked the salaries that were reported. I used to have access and I can tell you that in 1992, the Ivy League university grads who did not go on to grad school AVERAGED salaries at the 60th percentile. By the '00's the vast majority of the undergrads went to grad school. I had a nephew who graduated in the early '10's from Princeton and he could not even get interviews. The entire Placement Department was a part time secretary. Why? Because next to no one bothered to recruit there. By contrast, my alma mater Lehigh University with 4500 undergrads had 29 full time and 14 part time employees for the Placement office. The Ivy's have been living on reputation for 50 years. Some of the grad schools are top notch, but the undergraduate programs leave a lot to be desired. I have hired people from about 50 colleges and universities and I have seen only a few people worth hiring out of the Ivy League. Far too privileged and far to arrogant.
@crypto_que
Ай бұрын
The Ivys never produced great talent! They attract great talent and then use those individuals as branding for their organization. Their endowments grow but their enrollments shrink. They keep a constant demand curve for their brands by offering exclusivity.
@Youtuber-qb7rx
3 ай бұрын
You can get just as good an education for a lot less money at a state school.
@Dakid015
3 ай бұрын
Bingo! And plenty of recruiters from big companies get candidates from these schools
@maple-leafs13
3 ай бұрын
The point of ivy league is not about just education but the connections you make. Think about all the presidents who went to harvard, ceos of tech giants who went to an Ivy League. You're surrounded by children whose parents probably own a company of some sort. It's more about building connections.
@samuelweir5985
2 ай бұрын
Well......actually, no.
@ebyim
3 ай бұрын
This is a bunch of double-speak nonsense. So you are picking colleges for "recruiters" to recruit from based on HIGH SCHOOL test scores??? This is the lazy way out. Why don't you do the leg work to look at the experiences colleges provide to prepare the students with the tools for the real world.
@jamesb4789
3 ай бұрын
The better way to evaluate the real value of a degree form a school is how many get jobs before graduation and 6 months out and where do the jobs fall in the percentile range. Ivy's stink at that for undergrads falling in the 60's percentiles most year.
@bluehorseshoe444
2 ай бұрын
You mean they would actually have to read resumes... that's too much to ask
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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3 ай бұрын
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@captaincarrot8180
3 ай бұрын
So many people get protested and banned from campus for so many reasons. But somehow the prescence of corporate recruiters is OK.
@erpollock
3 ай бұрын
The Ivies have created the disruption by actively recruiting for social justice activists, while eliminating the best students, who are known to be Jews. The Jewish percentage in the Ivies has therefore been deliberately reduced. Hence the Ivies deselected for the most academically inclined students.
@byzameli
2 ай бұрын
So what you're saying is Zionist aren't happy with students being against genocide
@fdr2275
3 ай бұрын
American higher education is becoming trash in recent years. Most American colleges have become test optional in recent years. They have officially abandoned the traditional method of recruiting students based on objective standardized testing (like the SAT). Instead, they are playing a game which they call Holistic Approach that puts excessive emphasis on non-academic factors like extracurricular activities, teacher recommendations, college application essays, racial quota, legacy quota and first generation college student quota etc. Make no mistake. These things are completely irrelevant to a student's academic potential. Academic standard is dropping like a rock in America and it's no wonder why college graduates cannot find high paying jobs anymore.
@madeleinbronner3943
2 ай бұрын
TO ALL THE KIDS WANTING TO BE A PHARMACIST, ANY SCHOOL WILL DO. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON AN EXPENSIVE SCHOOL. PASSING YOUR BOARD AND GETTING YOUR LICENSE IS ALL YOU NEED.
@mukakaka
3 ай бұрын
Go woke go broke
@samuelweir5985
2 ай бұрын
You said it...... • "Georgia man sues over false ballot fraud claim in film", AP News. • "‘2,000 Mules’ Producer Apologizes to Man Depicted Committing Election Fraud", NYT. "Salem Media Group, which co-produced the 2022 film, issued the apology to a Georgia man who was falsely depicted as stuffing a ballot box near Atlanta"
@bridgettedenise
3 ай бұрын
Entitled brats
@XxXenosxX
3 ай бұрын
Ivy League= snooty child who has no life skills due to being sheltered by their parents money
@ExtraordinaryLiving
2 ай бұрын
Well, this (the Ivy League Universities) is yet another example of the contemporary maxim "Go woke and go broke!" 😂😂😂😂
@samuelweir5985
2 ай бұрын
You said it, buddy. • "Georgia man sues over false ballot fraud claim in film", AP News. • "‘2,000 Mules’ Producer Apologizes to Man Depicted Committing Election Fraud", NYT. "Salem Media Group, which co-produced the 2022 film, issued the apology to a Georgia man who was falsely depicted as stuffing a ballot box near Atlanta"
@sunnyboi1221
2 ай бұрын
A select few Ivy universities such as Columbia university has deviated away from test scores and focus on Academics.
@Yookgaejang
3 ай бұрын
Georgia Tech is top notch school!!
@ezraspiritualandworldlygui8266
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the enlightening info.
@Th3MostWond3rfulTim3OfTh3Y3ar
3 ай бұрын
Boston College? Really?
@erpollock
3 ай бұрын
Hurray for my graduate university - Johns Hopkins! First on the private college list. I rejected Columbia for Hopkins, and lucky I did. Fabulous program, though it was in the 70s. A serious university for learning when I attended.
@MonicaWB
3 ай бұрын
Hopkins students held large protests against the Vietnam War, and they’re also protesting right now.
@alejandrohazera7895
3 ай бұрын
Johns Hopkins, great institution
@erpollock
3 ай бұрын
There were no protests when I attended from '74 to '76. And the recent encampment has been unfortunate for Hopkins' reputation, but the Sun reports as of Sunday, May 12, the encampment is being taken down. And it remained peaceful and caused no major disruption to university operations.
@mattzun6779
3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see schools rated on ROI for the average grad in each degree program and percentage with a firm job offer by graduation time. If you are paying 250,000 dollars for a degree and a state school costs 50k, you better be making at least 20k per year more as a graduate of the Ivy league school.
@mattzun6779
3 ай бұрын
@@MiMiiViVi And the Ivy League is 500k - same math applies
@dx9867
Ай бұрын
My observation, kids going to ivy leagues are very good test takers and top academic achievers. But that does not mean these kids can work well with people and be creative. Some ivy kids lack certain social skills needed in the real world.
@kmdskins
3 ай бұрын
As a business owner, I am not hiring anyone with a college degree unless it is from: University of Wyoming Auburn Alabama Brigham Young Liberty TCU Harding Texas A&M
@alaa-eldin_hamdan
3 ай бұрын
Hiring low tier losers in other words.
@kmdskins
3 ай бұрын
@@alaa-eldin_hamdan nope, just hiring kids that are not indoctrinated Leftists.
@kmdskins
3 ай бұрын
@@MiMiiViVi and if the kid is a Leftists, he’s welcome to go work somewhere else because he or she is not working for me.
@kmdskins
3 ай бұрын
@@MiMiiViVi good, the Leftists have plenty of other choices, but then again, most of them will do everything they can not to work
@kmdskins
3 ай бұрын
@@MiMiiViVi good, I’m glad the Leftists have plenty of other choices. But of course they will probably do everything within their power that they have to work.
@stevenewton6720
3 ай бұрын
If they are Hamas supporters, I wouldn't hire them.
@rw2382
3 ай бұрын
I would.
@the80386
3 ай бұрын
overwhelming majority of them are not. it's a dishonest way to try to discredit the whole movement by labeling it as such.
@kathleenking47
3 ай бұрын
It may harm their chances later..if they protested
@pootieheadroflmao
3 ай бұрын
You would...because to not hire them could be considered discrimination under EEOC rules.
@scottwaters998
3 ай бұрын
@@pootieheadroflmao no Hamas is a designated terrorist organization you will end up in federal prison....kids nowadays think the world didn't exist before them.
@nufsaid80
3 ай бұрын
Ivy League = Snowflakes
@PurplePugLove
2 ай бұрын
great video. this is the ultimate reason why many are opting for more affordable universities.
@mjg239
2 ай бұрын
*Dear Forbes, does this topic doesn't require 10 minutes of one's time to get to the gist of what you're talking about? No.* Since you're a magazine, could you please offer a link to an article that people like me can read or just some KZitem/TikTok Shorts style video of this topic to save time. I skimmed through it and still don't know all the "20 New Ivies" you're talking about. Only heard 3. Such a waste of time.
@user-gs2zl6zb8q
3 ай бұрын
No, it is the other way around. Employers are seeking students who stand up to tyranny, and injustice! We have seen brave students with a moral compass!
@kevinmcfarlane2752
3 ай бұрын
No, we have seen simps for Islamic totalitarianism.
@whimsical_travesty
3 ай бұрын
haha
@newrunner91
3 ай бұрын
I am a physician, a small business owner and live near Cornell. I doubt I would hire anyone who went to an Ivy for undergrad. They all seem to project a sense of entitled victimhood and crazy DEI mentality.
@erickanorris567
Ай бұрын
It's been proven that test scores and success are not linked , which is why many schools are not requiring them. What is more indicative of graduating with good grades is a long term history of academic achievement and family support.
@JuliaM-hy1yn
2 ай бұрын
Yeah yeah uhhh ….”😅. Paid to sell these new ivies ?
@duruphd
2 ай бұрын
I wish there was some specific data in this reporting. Sounds too much like hearsay and over-extrapolation. For example, has the distribution and profile of new hire positions actually changed for Ivy League graduates? Why do we care that employers are "taking a harder look" if the results are the same, for example?
@techserviceondemand9409
3 ай бұрын
No different than French fries. Wendy is now so much better than MacDonald. The only question is how do MacDonald let that happen?
@remibailey8340
3 ай бұрын
She did tried to renew her passport but failed because she didn’t have NIN. As she said, she didn’t have enough time to do or register for NIN.
@patlee131
3 ай бұрын
You should name SMU if you are in Dallas area. It is a private university but gives out very very generous merit based scholarships which brings down their tuition on same level as UT Austin. Also SMU has very strong grip on Dallas Market.
@jamesb4789
3 ай бұрын
The alternate school include many that are no better than the Ivy League. Bennington's greatest claim to fame is they have for decades boasted about being the most expensive school in the US. Value for cost in higher education can be seen in job placement and salaries. With Ivy League grads leading companies over the cliff in a lemming like pursuit of Woke/DEI, where is the value for employers?
@striker44
3 ай бұрын
This list is a waste too. There are better state schools. L for elitist ives.
@dougwalls6266
3 ай бұрын
Yea we're seeing what all these radicalized ivy League students will do for your company just ask Google! 😅 What a absolute joke
@jasonlucas2328
3 ай бұрын
Don't hire'em. They sympathize with Palestinians who danced to celebrate. Ultimately, it'll be a problem for the employer.
@jbunboxingstuff2559
3 ай бұрын
Consider the students that ‘protest’ against anything….you may have hired a worker that feels privileged and starts a strike at work because they thought it worked at school. Check their school disciplinary record before you hire !!! Hopefully the corresponding Universities expelled or held back on their graduation….NO REFUNDS !!!
@deebrown7160
3 ай бұрын
BINGHAMTON 😎 great school
@gooser__43
3 ай бұрын
Harrison Butker played for Georgia Tech.
@EwaRiro
3 ай бұрын
😂🤣 - previous brand names schools fell short...what's the solution? make a new brand list of brand names - what's the definition of insanity again?
@sl1737
3 ай бұрын
Lol, right! Employers should be school-blind when hiring. Hire people based on desire to succeed such as level of initiative to upskill even through online micro-courses, or perhaps volunteerism. Those with no money to pay the Ivies are more hungry for success!
@sharinaross1865
3 ай бұрын
I belong in The Kitchen.
@CashMoneyReckadz
3 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@harrychu650
3 ай бұрын
Binghamton University? That is a test optional institution that had about 10% of their applicants who submitted scores. This lady just contradictes herself.
@juancolina7654
2 ай бұрын
That list is woke colleges without the IVY Brand
@user-ru4jl4vd5g
3 ай бұрын
Justify
@jacobthompson6265
3 ай бұрын
I went to USC
@sugarmagnolia1475
3 ай бұрын
Good!
@robjohnston366
Ай бұрын
Forbes is hilarious. You exclude the UC schools UCLA and UCB because they're test-blind. But yet UCLA, as a matter of fact, had an acceptance rate of 8.7% in 2023, which none of your top-10 public universities came near with respect to %s, has made Princeton Review's top-10 dream colleges list numerous years, and had 59% of its freshmen who entered with a straight-A 4.0 uwgpa in 2023. This is not to mention their having an average of 10 AP and honors courses they've taken in high school with a wgpa of 4.5-4.6. And since it might be apparent that ETS and College Board are paying you all, please note that the hardest university to gain entry to in the country is Caltech which is also test-blind, [in which a perfect score on either test would not be able to predict students' ability to stay in good standing]. Caltech also undoubtedly has the highest % of geniuses in the nation.
@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd
3 ай бұрын
Almost like modern jobs require competitive skills, and degrees that are just receipts for old money rich to launder their assets back to themselves through tax exempt donations and institutions.
@minttjulep
3 ай бұрын
listening to these women is almost painful. it’s crazy that this is the editor in chief. their voices belong on a cooking podcast.
@user-zx6oj7uz8w
3 ай бұрын
Well they’re finally waking up!
@siouxsan5705
3 ай бұрын
Not sure about this…..the “interview “ has a lot of “yea” ( that hard for a reporter to say yes?) Lot of stammering, a lot of “I mean” and a lot of valley girl tilt at the end of her sentence. Don’t know if I can put much faith in her findings. It would be great if it’s true but they need a better spokesperson.
@bigboomer751
3 ай бұрын
liberals
@user-mo9kd8rh6j
3 ай бұрын
Go BC!
@anandpaulraj8094
3 ай бұрын
If only schools granted admission on merit!!! 😂
@deebrown7160
3 ай бұрын
They need people who can think outside the box not give the area of a square.
@tonyduarte9503
3 ай бұрын
This interview is distorting the data. They are judging by high school acceptance statistics by Universities, not the employer hiring practices. I can say firsthand that the major Silicon Valley recruiters will almost always interview Ivy League candidates - even when, to technical people like me, they should be looking at different candidates. I have to conclude that this interview is mostly propaganda - an effort to get the Ivy Leagues to be less accepting to LBGT and other "renaissance" values, as our society tries to get modernize our values beyond simple greed.
@kevinmcfarlane2752
3 ай бұрын
Woke is not “renaissance,” it’s an evil totalitarian ideology. It’s quite distinct from someone's being an individual L, G, B or T.
@juneaborealis8658
3 ай бұрын
It's about time those college's are horrible. Those students don't even know what www means.
@Penguinracer
3 ай бұрын
What extracurriculars do you need for Oxford? kzitem.info/news/bejne/z2N3vmhuanOfn5w
@EliaSarsenLo
3 ай бұрын
Go Georgia Tech! We are all about career preparation along with leadership in business, engineering, and science. We have no lefty hooliganism on campus because everyone is busy with research and business.
@user-kn9hi1zg5c
3 ай бұрын
Nobody cares just thank DEI....
@deebrown7160
3 ай бұрын
What? DEI is gone what are you talking about
@user-kn9hi1zg5c
3 ай бұрын
@@deebrown7160 I got all my sisters, so we are family... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion it is getting a job/position based upon being a minority not based upon merit.
@davidbarraco2045
3 ай бұрын
They should tear down these private University institutions and build affordable housing repair.The damage that they've done to public education non profit education
@kathleenking47
3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't tear them down, just revamp EVERYTHING
@debimorrison6422
3 ай бұрын
Hooray
@pensiveintrovert4318
3 ай бұрын
DEI.
@deebrown7160
3 ай бұрын
That's gone. Remember that court case
@striker44
3 ай бұрын
@@deebrown7160still at work places.
@phobicx5999
3 ай бұрын
😂The foxnews effect
@patay168
3 ай бұрын
My preference would be either Jews or Japanese. The rest I would just pass. Sorry.
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