What she was really saying....."It was a lot easier for me to stay awake."
@vendingdudes
26 күн бұрын
Keep napping Kris
@jaybravo2199
25 күн бұрын
@@vendingdudes clever…?
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
lol
@braydenweese1407
14 күн бұрын
Thanks for showing us that you’re an a$$hole.
@brianevans5573
25 күн бұрын
As a questioning member, I don’t understand…. If this is a solemn ordinance, and God is perfect and never changing… how can the endowment change? Several times over the years. Pls help me understand
@Paradisefalls65
25 күн бұрын
They did a poll from LDS members that recently left and changed based on feedback. They did this before when they removed the penalties, and again when they changed the ceremony to make it less subjective to women. For the record, I believe that God actually loves women and wants them to covenant directly to Him and not their husband's. He also doesn't want our faces veiled during prayer, etc. Meaning, it wasn't a "perfect" masonic ceremony from God to begin with.
@someotherplanetband4248
25 күн бұрын
The answer is the LDS leaders are sexist. Still leaving an old law. The church leaders do not speak for Christ but they think they do. The church is always about 50 years behind. Think race and priesthood, LGBT issues, women's issues. It's all there.
@FreeSpirit5150
24 күн бұрын
They removed a couple of phrases that had been repeated, thus concentrating the attention on the meaning of the endowment and less on the action. Every word is still the same. 🩷🩷
@FreeSpirit5150
24 күн бұрын
@@Paradisefalls65you're silly. One main reason people leave is because the church doctrines are based on Christ's teachings and will not bend to political correctness. 😂🩷😂🩷😂
@someotherplanetband4248
24 күн бұрын
@@FreeSpirit5150That's what LDS church tells you is why they leave. You should try asking somebody who's actually left. People leave because the truth claims are unfounded and do not hold water. Scripture central stop deleting my comments!
@joshua.snyder
20 күн бұрын
The endowment is being watered down. How fresh can it be when it is being simplified and neutered?
@gd8205
21 күн бұрын
Guys. There weren’t any changes. It was just “abridged “ 😂
@joenelson5819
25 күн бұрын
In the Bible, adjustments in the temple were never made. God doesn’t change.
@joepro66
24 күн бұрын
Go do some research on the deuteronomists.
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
The actual ordinance never changes
@joenelson5819
21 күн бұрын
@@alycran have you researched the beginning of time Mormonism rituals and the ones now? They are completely different.
@MsUnknown300
15 күн бұрын
In the Bible, the temple veil was torn when Jesus died on the cross and the temple was destroyed. The LDS put it back up, lol
@TRUTHandLIGHT4809
12 күн бұрын
It's a sign of how evil the earth is
@danielclingen34
18 күн бұрын
Remember when Joseph said to never change them but the church constantly changes the temples.
@MsUnknown300
15 күн бұрын
I don't think Joseph would recognize the church as it is today.
@patriciafinn5717
25 күн бұрын
But why are they changing it? Oaks said nothing should be changed?? 😢😢
@dianenaylor4770
25 күн бұрын
The endowment ORDINANCE isn’t changed, only the way it it presented.
@FreeSpirit5150
25 күн бұрын
They removed a couple of phrases that had been being repeated, the words etc of the endowment are exactly the same it's just a few minutes shorter.🩷🩷🩷
@jaybravo2199
22 күн бұрын
@@dianenaylor4770 This is the strangest apologetic responses... One, the ordinance did change, out of respect for you and this channel, there were certain covenants made where "unaliving" was pantomimed. There have been other significant changes as well.
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
@@jaybravo2199but that’s still not the actual covenant that changed
@JohnGasper
21 күн бұрын
@@FreeSpirit5150that is not true they cut 15-20 minutes out. Sure they removed some repetition but that wasn’t all. And they removed very specific lines from Satan. Kind of makes you wonder who is inspired here when they keep removing stuff every few years now.
@elliek5350
Күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your feelings and opinions, but those are exactly that - feelings and opinions.
@johnnyscoolstuff8427
25 күн бұрын
Joseph Smith said the endowment should never be changed. So much has been left since I first went through in 1978 it’s not even recognizable. Did God change his mind?
@joepro66
24 күн бұрын
He never said that in fact he said the exact opposite
@yeshalloween
23 күн бұрын
@@joepro66he absolutely did NOT.
@jaybravo2199
22 күн бұрын
@@joepro66 No... no he did not.
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
The church is becoming woke and removing the offensive parts of the endowment.
@nickdipaolofan5948
20 күн бұрын
@@joepro66 show us the quote from Joseph.......we'll wait.
@johnwerahiko6226
13 күн бұрын
Many people have been praying for changes to it, I know I have been.
@TRUTHandLIGHT4809
12 күн бұрын
The changes are not doctrine. What did you want changed?
@samuelpike1248
21 күн бұрын
Boy I love how some people so conveniently skipped over the part where she used the term abridged.
@wallydibble7342
23 күн бұрын
Nelson is trying to remove all references to Michael being a Creator God. If you think the repetitiveness is just relearning you have been missing the doctrine that was being taught. Before Nelson's presidency the endowment taught that in addition to Michael being given dominion upon this earth, he was made Lord over the whole earth and all things on the face thereof. When Michael was declared Lord, that gives accurate meaning to who the Lord is when mentioned in the Pearl of Great Price. That's a degradation of the Restoration not an expansion of the Restoration.
@jc72outdoors
25 күн бұрын
The sacrament prayer is word for word every single time. If it is said wrong it gets repeat until correct. Same goes for baptism. So why is the most sacred aspect of the church, the endowment changing? So much has changed since my first time in 1996
@FreeSpirit5150
24 күн бұрын
The meaning of the endowment is exactly the same. The changes I've seen over the years distill the teachings of the endowment, making it plainer for people to understand. As it gets translated into many different languages, there is no exact equivalent for some words and ideas, so it must be kept as close to the original meaning as possible while having some flexibility as to the exact wording 🩷🤗🩷
@joepro66
24 күн бұрын
Big difference between the Presentation of the Endowment and the Ordinance of the Endowment. 👍 Presentation may be adjusted Ordinance blessings and spiritual consequences remain the same.
@yeshalloween
23 күн бұрын
@@FreeSpirit5150you’re just making up “reasons” to settle your cognitive dissonance.
@jaybravo2199
22 күн бұрын
@@FreeSpirit5150 So should I submit to my husband as he does to God still, or keep the covenants I made decades ago which included penalties, am I still disallowed to participate in "loud laughing"? My great-grandparents took a covenant of vengeance in regards to the death of Joseph Smith in the temple... if they were still alive, would they be held to that?
@adamholloway7963
21 күн бұрын
@@FreeSpirit5150 You said, "The changes I've seen over the years distill the teachings of the endowment, making it plainer for people to understand." Wouldn't an omniscient & omnipotent God know how-to and have the ability-to provide the most distilled version of endowment teachings the first time?
@ekaterinabrumit374
17 күн бұрын
I had to rape my head around the new way it was not having the live move but then the sprit let me know we are not her for entertainment and now I really appreciate the new way and also the easy way of the endowment ceremony and also appreciate having the writing so that those who can’t hear can engage a lot better than before.
@MsUnknown300
15 күн бұрын
Interesting word mistype there...
@melissar2943
Күн бұрын
Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol.4, p. 208
@hollilolli5600
17 күн бұрын
Love this ❤ couldn't agree more.
@SladeMacGregor
26 күн бұрын
I'll be going very soon.
@serenamg
22 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m going tomorrow and the following day. You are amazing and an inspiration! ♾️
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
She's here to make you feel better about your life choices.
@eddiebourdonnay5038
22 күн бұрын
Thanks
@roxysdad40
25 күн бұрын
What a blessing to have the prophetic mantle on our leaders! The Savior leads His church…
@milly5374
22 күн бұрын
Sounds like he can't make his mind up
@cdeanneeckles
19 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@AdamRichards-v2f
22 күн бұрын
What is the origin of the temple endowment ceremony?
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
It’s in the doctrine and covenants
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
Nauvoo had the full endowment ceremony in 1846. It has been cut from the nearly four hour long ceremony to around one hour.
@AdamRichards-v2f
19 күн бұрын
@@alycran Thanks. I’m a returning member and trying to learn as much accurate history as possible.
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
It's from Masonry. Joseph smith became a mason then copied most of the ceremony. The Book of Mormon condemned masonry and secret combinations back when Joseph Smith believe masons were evil. Google it. Lots of history.
@danielclingen34
18 күн бұрын
@AdamRichards-v2f The origin is Joseph was a mason and copied their 400 year old ceremony.
@kasram0121vn
14 күн бұрын
If you complained about any adjustment in ordinances, you shouldn’t attend sacrament meetings nor be baptized in first place. Because these ordinances have already been adjusted time to time.😂 There have already been essential part of ordinances and not essential part. It is natural to alter the non-essential part
@nataliemitchell9219
25 күн бұрын
It was terrifying for me. It felt satanic.
@joenelson5819
25 күн бұрын
Because it’s from masonry
@FreeSpirit5150
24 күн бұрын
They removed a couple of repeated phrases, thus shortening the length of the endowment a bit. 😂😂
@JonathanSmith87
23 күн бұрын
That’s exactly how my wife felt & she isn’t alone
@yeshalloween
23 күн бұрын
It wasn’t just you. I felt like I had participated in a satanic ritual without informed consent.
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
Are you talking specifically about the changes or the whole thing in general? Just remember it’s all symbolic
@coreygrua3271
17 күн бұрын
BRAVO!!!
@sharlanaumu7465
18 күн бұрын
Just let me know when they’re gonna allow us to choose sessions with 1.5x 1.75x 2x the speed
@MCdarkeyes2
20 күн бұрын
Yeah because watching the same old boring movie over, and over and over again till the they you die will get you closer to the Lord.
@amygreen758
20 күн бұрын
That's how cults work!
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
Rinse and repeat! I saw the 2005 movie probably 20 times. Once a week in the MTC for three months learning chinese! It drove me so mad I never went back to the temple ever again.
@ldskarlita
19 күн бұрын
I need to go soon! ❤
@deegold6233
26 күн бұрын
❤❤❤
@raydoucette2407
26 күн бұрын
My wife and I work there every Thursday afternoon. We love it. Cardston temple.
@katekack108
5 күн бұрын
Vomit 🤢 🤕 🤮
@ZakCiotti
6 күн бұрын
My my gosh your hair!
@davidhatch7603
18 күн бұрын
I must insist on the original all-day endowments.
@phillammi2870
18 күн бұрын
Well put.
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
Why not just have the session on zoom? Save a lot of time and money on gas and time. No fundamentals change, just the "format". See how you can just spin it anyway you want?
@anitaanita1039
18 күн бұрын
I’d love your comment about seeing it with fresh eyes. Never thought of it that way thank you.
@tracygittins6343
21 күн бұрын
Adjustments, not changes, riiiight
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
ooops they're on to us!
@CelestialComrades
26 күн бұрын
I can’t wait for my endowment 🙏
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
It's culty. Just fyi
@CelestialComrades
19 күн бұрын
@@outlawedmedia4336 I care why?
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
@@CelestialComrades As I said, just fyi. It's culty. Has you doing a bunch of hand waves and secret hand shakes promising you will never divulge or you will be cast off. I wish someone warned me before I went. Now I regret it.
@danielclingen34
18 күн бұрын
@CelestialComrades There’s blood/death oaths! They try to make it more subtle now 🫴✋ but it is still there. Look up the history of the ceremonies. They used to touch people’s bodies under a pancho too,
@CelestialComrades
18 күн бұрын
@@danielclingen34 I’ve seen the history, honestly not that bad. Also they didn’t just touch you bruh, it was a ceremonial cleaning.
@Latter-dailyDigest
25 күн бұрын
Hastening the work😊
@joenelson5819
25 күн бұрын
Has anyone seen the original temple endowment?
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
Not if you weren’t alive in the 1800s
@joenelson5819
21 күн бұрын
@@alycran it’s easy to find on the internet
@joenelson5819
21 күн бұрын
@@alycran As noted by LDS scholar David John Buerger, sometime between 1900 and 1930 several objectionable elements of the endowment ceremony were removed or altered, including certain aspects of the penalties: “A number of the endowment’s graphic penalties, all of which closely followed Masonic penalties’ wording, were moderated. For example, the penalties for revealing endowments included details of how they would be carried out (the tongue to be ‘torn out by its roots,’ etc.). Today’s endowment [in 1987] only alludes to those earlier descriptions as various methods of taking life.” (“The Development of the Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Vol. 20, No. 4 (Winter 1987), 120.)
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
No one filmed the original endowment at Nauvoo, but members kept diaries in the 1840s. It was nearly four hours long. The washings and annointings were full immersion in a bathtub. Original endowments used live actors. There were major changes in 1990 with penalties removed. Since the 1990s there have been a number of changes. These are never announced formally by the church. You just show up and surprise! Something looks different.
@jaybravo2199
25 күн бұрын
You’ve lost all credibility when you claimed the reasons behind priesthood ban were only speculative and never taught as doctrine. You are a smart person… don’t degrade your intelligence for the sake of apologetics.
@someotherplanetband4248
25 күн бұрын
She's paid by the church to play dumb and try to make the church look good....
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
They are both doctrine and policy. Telling black they can't have the priesthood because their ancestors were "uppity" in the premortal world looks like doctrine. It was also a policy for many years with any doctrine reasons for the priesthood band being downplayed. It took until 1978 to make the changes. The church has never apologized for the priesthood ban. Even when given an opportunity at the 2018 40th anniversary of the declaration, Elder Oaks used apologetics in his talk.
@MCdarkeyes2
20 күн бұрын
She is not smart, she is a fraud working for a multi billions company.
@amygreen758
20 күн бұрын
Since when did fast-talking equate to smart? I've yet to hear a smart thought from her.
@poppadoc5614
24 күн бұрын
Somehow this isn't even funny
@kadehogg
21 күн бұрын
The mental gymnastics you have to go through to bend yourself into a pretzel like this must be *exhausting* 🙄🤦
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
scripter plus is one of the most deceptive and ghas-lighty apologists.
@alananat6628
26 күн бұрын
Ajustments made to the "presentation?" How much are you being paid? I hope its worth it.
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
Why would she be paid for this?
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
No one mentions how the church pulled the four new videos. There were four sets of actors in each video. There was a scandal a few years back where the director of the endowment films was criminally charged.
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
@@alycran She's getting paid. Let's see if she comes clean...
@j.gverse6344
13 күн бұрын
You're deeply mis informed.
@tombaker6083
18 күн бұрын
God never changes. The temple is invalid because of Christ atonement. "The vail was wrent in twain" I say yhis in the name of Jesus Christ
@johneasler9967
21 күн бұрын
God apparently can't make up his mind
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
What does God have to do with it?
@beckic1372
20 күн бұрын
🤣
@milly5374
22 күн бұрын
The denial you're in is sad
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
The apologetics is legendary. She has to be positive due to the focus of her KZitem channel.
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
@@user-og2wt3le4j Plus she gets paid.
@milly5374
22 күн бұрын
Everytime they cuange shit you just find anew way to justify it. I hope the take out the stuoid ass signs and tokens
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
The same reason I’ve always heard is that the ordinance never changes
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
Mormon logic "If you change you're apostate. But if we change it's ongoing revelation" Awe I see...
@katekack108
5 күн бұрын
You are in a flipping cult wake up sis
@johnnyscoolstuff8427
25 күн бұрын
Joseph Smith said the endowment should never be changed. So much has been left since I first went through in 1978 it’s not even recognizable. Did God change his mind?
@alycran
21 күн бұрын
The actual covenant never changes. Just parts of the interpretation/representation
@user-og2wt3le4j
21 күн бұрын
The Nauvoo version was nearly four hours long. It has been abbreviated/shortened since then. 1990 saw major changes. The current one is just under one hour.
@joshua.snyder
20 күн бұрын
@@alycran Clearly haven't read the original version, or the pre-1990 version yet.
@outlawedmedia4336
19 күн бұрын
You speak too much sense. We don't like that. Go away Mr smart!
@Marine450x
18 күн бұрын
This is a test, a test of where you place your faith. In dead prophets or living prophets.
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