Keep these videos coming. It’s great advice. “Boxy” is a great word to describe that chocked sound.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support!
@KCElstun
5 жыл бұрын
There is simply so much to drumming that is glossed over or just not taught at all. I am coming up on these videos from back to front; bravo, bravo, bravo. Hands down, this is the best lesson on snare tuning I have ever heard. I'll say it again; bravo!
@Pearl127
6 жыл бұрын
How do you guys not have more subscribers?? This is good, well-produced stuff!
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
We're just starting out- the first videos were only posted about 9 weeks ago. Thanks for the kind words. Help spread the word to your drummer friends!
@Pearl127
6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely will! Keep it up!
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
@@Pearl127 One year later, we're incredibly grateful to all who have helped spread the word to grow our community. Cheers!
@Pearl127
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum thank YOU for all the amazing videos and information! :)
@muuriciodegollada3870
5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows drums . Your explanations are perfect. Thank you
@PC-je4es
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you guys do. Your videos are great and serve all of us in the community from beginner to pro. My story: I have a vintage snare I was struggling to get a decent snare sound. I tensioned/tuned the heads in pitch so my tone was great except when I turn on the snares. CHOKED no matter how tight/loose the strainer. I was baffled because I had new straps and pure sound wires. Well watching this video I was inspired to dig deeper. I pulled it apart. I noticed immediately the snares would not evenly tension with the straps. So I changed the straps out for the puresound blue wires. Still no good. Baffled...until on my second "pull apart" I laid the snares on my desk. They did not lay perfectly flat. Somehow they had gotten twisted slightly. Changed the snares out for a "flat" set of puresound. What a difference. Saved me from buying something new and kept one of my favorite drums on the stand and off the shelf.
@woodypernell416
Жыл бұрын
A little trick i learned from an old jazz drummer about snare side tuning and wires. Get the head in tune with itself, obviously....then press down on the head (not too hard) in the middle right next to the snares with your finger, if you get a nice long buzz from the snares you're in the ballpark as far as tension...adjust to taste. Works for me, give it a try.
@akela1
5 жыл бұрын
i watched several videos from you guys today sitting in front of my two snares. after every video i come closer to the snare sound i always wanted. thanks!
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Glad to hear it. Be sure to turn on notifications so you don't miss any upcoming releases. Cheers! -Ben
@akela1
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum first thing i did after watching the first video :)
@marcusbrown87
4 жыл бұрын
This channel is the reason my snare drums sound better than ever
@SoundsLikeADrum
4 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear it, Marcus!
@glsmaverick
6 жыл бұрын
I think that the reason we find that snare wires get cranked up so tight is to reduce or eliminate sympathetic buzz while playing the rest of the kit. Are you guys going to do a video on sympathetic buzz? If not, what should we do to address that issue. I understand that it is going to happen but sometimes it is just unbearable. These videos are great and I look forward to watching them every time.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent point! Yes, we are definitely going to cover this. Sympathetic buzz is a thing we do have to live with to a degree, but you're right that it can get to the level of being a real problem regardless of the playing situation and sometimes you really do have to reach for whatever solution is available. I've had a couple experience when set up too close to the bass amp that were pretty jarring :)
@Dummertrummer
6 жыл бұрын
I can get that problem as well. But could the case be that my snare is untuned somewhere? Because it sounds like "bo-wo-wo-wo-wo-wo-wo"... :P
@Eurodrummer666
6 жыл бұрын
There are millions of factors that could make your snare buzzing. Unequal tensions of one head or two, would make your note going "up and down" in pitch, and your wires would catch all of it. You could try set of wires with less numbers of them, like 12 wires, or Sonor 8 wires. It helps a lot, but only if tuning is equal.
@austinshoupe1506
5 жыл бұрын
@@Dummertrummer the wave in the sound is definitely a tuning issue. but its not really the place to fix your sympathetic buzz. that comes more from the pitch of the head than the 'intuneness' of the head.
@ILikeWafflz
5 жыл бұрын
I randomly decided to either tighten or loosen (I can't remember which) the four lugs closest to the snare wires on the resonant side on my snare: just a little though, like, I think it was a 1/4 turn. It seemed to reduce it to me, and I didn't notice any particular loss in quality of sound. I'm not an expert though: it was just my experiment.
@tomsensabaugh1894
6 жыл бұрын
THE BEST video on tuning subtlety you can watch. I already improved all my main snares sound 100% using this and the snare tuning video. The bottom head loosening was a watershed moment for me and I thank you for it. My snares never sounded so good. Thats coming from an old man.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! We're so glad to hear that you got some valuable information from the video. Please help us spread the word by sharing the video and the channel. Cheers!
@tomsensabaugh1894
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum. I will and again, thank you. Have a wonderful week.
@portley777
6 жыл бұрын
Loving these zen inspired drum tweaking videos. Keep up the good work!
@nickferrence8593
5 жыл бұрын
Another informative video. I find your videos very useful. I haven't seen many videos that approach drums the way you do. Thanks
@testabeatdrums
6 жыл бұрын
Ya I loved this episode. Until about 6 or 7 months ago I was scared to take wires off because I thought I could never get them back to where they needed to be. I did research and started to watch other drum techs like Kenny Sharrets who have a great video on snare wires. Like you said these tips are so vital to making your drum sound amazing and sound correct!! Keep killing Cody and Ben 😁😁😁😁
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad this one his helping people :) All these little details matter so much!
@testabeatdrums
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum so true 😁😁
@ianmuessig
6 жыл бұрын
You may have mentioned this and I missed it (I had to watch this video in a few sections at a time) but I've always had luck clipping out a few middle wires to reduce sympathetic buzz while still allowing you to let your wires move. It's not a "cure all" but it is a drastic help especially with problem drums. I don't do it on my 12" snares as often but I do it on every 14" drum I've ever had. I usually use 20 strand wires on my 14"s and cut out the middle 4 leaving two sets of 8 strands with the middle open. Most of the buzz comes from the middle of the head so taking those wires out cuts it down. My snare recipe: Evans hazy 300 reso tuned very hi, 20 strand wires with middle 4 removed at medium to medium high tension (no "fart" sound but not boxy and choked), Evans coated g12 on the top tuned medium to medium high (depends on the band, session, etc). Versatile, punchy, dynamic, pleasing snare sound and feel that is equally at home live or in the studio, from metal to country, and from sticks to brushes.
@arkadiuszrutkowski2287
5 жыл бұрын
I think that you are right mate. I've started to use puresound equalizer snares and I love the sound.
@pr192001
6 жыл бұрын
Bro that Acrolite sounds great, I have one also but mine is 1976....blue and olive badge...great drum
@Bobbroberg
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the time and effort you’ve put in your videos . You’ve literally helped make playing drums exciting for me again. 👍🤘
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! Glad to hear that we could provide some inspiration. Cheers! - Ben
@Klaus312
6 жыл бұрын
That helps a lot in understanding how snare drums work, very good points, thank you!
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
There are a surprising amount of intricate elements at play. We'll cover more of them in the future!
@Veitski87
6 жыл бұрын
Best video on this topic ever
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Be sure to share this with your drummer friends if you haven't already. Cheers!
@lgnd6188
6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Much more info than any other source. Simple techniques, great sound.
@TheSMPStudios
3 жыл бұрын
My problem with my gretcsh (same one you have, lol!) was the sympathetic buzz. Your snare side tricks video helped out with that a lot!
@nikitaptashko3430
Жыл бұрын
This is precious ❤
@DzDavidxD
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was confused why my snare wire was only to be heard when I hit hard but I didn’t tighten it enough 😅😅
@ineedstuff8286
Жыл бұрын
can anyone throw up a time stamp (as he's tightening the snares), at the point when it sort of hits "choked."? Thank you!! this channel is incredible! I feel like 3:21 is kinda the first hit that doesnt sound sloshy... the point where I think it hits "choked"?... maybe about 3:29. I know it's all about what "I" think, but.. still, I wonder what non-amatuers think :D
@fransterhorst3694
6 жыл бұрын
That is good advice, makes sense. I too am probably making that same mistake tuning the snare head super-tight and the sares too just to get rid of snare buzz. it sounds good from where i'm sitting though.. ha ha.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
It's tough to get past the sound from where you're seated. If you're just practicing at home, the sound to you is all that matters. If you're playing music for other people, their perspective becomes equally (if not more) important. It's great to have someone else demo your drums for you so you can hear them at a distance and make some informed decisions about how your tuning approach works from another perspective. Cheers!
@mattildahubbardo
2 жыл бұрын
Your the best
@thomaskleinhans2384
6 жыл бұрын
So profund! Good job!
@stubkar
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Thanks
@kushking420
2 ай бұрын
Strange question. My snare wires tend to break a lot faster than they did 6 ish years ago, for 15 years before that, I never had snare wires break. I don't over tighten them and they still break so much faster then ever. Have you guys or anyone else watching this channel recently noticed this?
@lonely_ghost9857
2 жыл бұрын
3:10 😂😂Omg i looked at the nob for my snare and it was COMPLETELY LOOSE. Everything else was fine but that part of the snare was so loose and i tightened it and Great now my snare sounds...like...well an actual snare🤣
@funkyvas
6 жыл бұрын
Great videos you’re doing! Excellent!!! Very important info! That snare drum is sounding great! I also have a 1969 Ludwig keystone acrolite... all original hardware, including the snare wires (20 strand) ! They are all twisted right now, but still: I didn’t find a set of snare wires with a similar kind of dark sound as those originals... I have a G1 and a Evans 200 snare side head! I really dig that head combination because I use a lot of subtleties in my playing, and I do play a big range of dynamics... besides that I feel like the Evans 200 controls a bit more of the sustain of the drum’s resonance which I dig!... in the near future, I might go try a different head combo, as the Evans strata 1000 top along with the Evans orchestral 200 bottom, but I’m quite unsure which snare wires to go for... I was investigating in the KZitem and I quite enjoyed the Puresound concert snare wires 16 strand! Is that the wires you are using in this video? Thanks a lot in advance.
@funkyvas
6 жыл бұрын
This is quite in the very high tuning zone... Meanwhile after this video I dropped the tuning because it was sort of chocking a little bit, and for some musical contexts it didn’t work out as well... it’s just an example of the darker sound of the original snare wires... kzitem.info/news/bejne/mJil34mgqmd1mKw
@schinbeindrumco
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, these are so good.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@shadowlandstudios86
2 жыл бұрын
Would you happen to have the drum dial settings for your batter and resonant heads on this Acrolite? It’s exactly at the tuning range I want for my Acrolite.
@djkdrums88
6 жыл бұрын
god I love this channel thank you
@Drumdre
5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@cutitshaveit
2 жыл бұрын
Thanknyou
@zhongxina8426
5 жыл бұрын
make a video about the difference between 42 strand and 8 strand wires pls! 🙂
@djentlover
5 жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that the snap seems to suffer noticeably when the wires are too tight.
@cranberryjuice3998
4 жыл бұрын
I've been using my dads old kit from his old band and HOW THE HELL DID THAT GUY HAVE IT THIS CHOKED OUT???
@gregseverance1481
2 жыл бұрын
What kind of snare wires do you use?
@Slalom_Steve
3 жыл бұрын
Only problem is this advice seeks to only make the individual snare drum sound best. I find that, in combination with the rest of my kit and especially my bassist's amp, when my wires are set at a tension that makes the drum sound best, the sympathetic buzz is out of control. When I tighten the wires up, the drum sounds worse but the buzz is reduced. I hate buzz and am always trying to find some compromise between the two trade-offs. ugh.
@rchayes1996
5 жыл бұрын
Over tightening snare wires will also cause them to break over time. I learned that the hard way as a young drummer.
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
It's highly unlikely that quality snare wires will actually break from being under realistic tension (they'd straighten out first). Still, they will start to lose their quality of tone as they stretch but this happens even under normal usage. -Ben
@zachschwark2719
5 жыл бұрын
How do I get articulation with out having ear piercing high over tones? Must I just put on a moon gel ?
@Thiscatsgotclaws
6 жыл бұрын
Can you borrow a 1st generation Pearl FFS and educate how to set up the snare strainer mechanism and wires? That be cool AND you'd be the first (as far as I know).
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Ha! Believe it or not, my (Cody) first snare drum was actually a stainess steel Pearl FFS back in the day. If we stumble on one I'm sure we can put something together :) I do remember that mechanism being unusual....
@munton5150
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. Really knowledgeable and well produced. I subscribed.
@erikvessey7001
6 жыл бұрын
When using a string to tie the snare wires to the strainer, are there any good knots that you would recommend? Do you have any techniques that you use when attaching snare wires to the strainer?
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Episode 18 of our series is all about this very subject! 😊 - Cody
@skarvid
5 жыл бұрын
I have my snareside tuned to 380hz.(by recomandation) And my snare does not sound any good atm, what tuning would be recomended as maximum tension on the snareside?
@Eurodrummer666
6 жыл бұрын
What is the influence of the length of the wires on the snare sound? Sonor strands are shorter than the regular ones for example, almost the length of those made for 13" snares. Have you ever tried shorter ones?
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Yeah I’ve tried a lot of different ones and I personally don’t find a huge difference in sound with regard to length (I put 13” wires on a 14” drum once in an emergency and still worked pretty good). Some sets are a little too long and start to interact with the snare-bed in strange ways so I tend to avoid those :) wire count has a much more dramatic effect for sure. -Cody
@Eurodrummer666
6 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that is to avoid getting close to the snare bed. As it is not flat, the wires would behave strangely. I might experiment with 13" just to see as they work. Thanks for sharing this experience!
@chillpillology
3 ай бұрын
does everyone comment about how you look like you are related to Tom Wood the actor?
@SoundsLikeADrum
3 ай бұрын
You’re the first.
@bluestacks5222
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video, In your opinion does the luddy supra work better with straps or cord/string ?
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
I've done both as well as strap on one end and string on the other with a vintage P-83 (strap being a no-go for those) and in the end found (As with most drums) that overall string is a bigger note/fatter with more overtones, while straps are more articulate across the head and yield a tighter sound overall. I used to be a 100% strings all the time person but have been coming over to the strap side more and more :) - Cody
@sleetyhurdle300
3 жыл бұрын
does anyone know why when i tighten my wires it just barely tightens it and it doesnt really do anything
@SoundsLikeADrum
3 жыл бұрын
Are the wires slipping at the strainer or the butt plate?
@sleetyhurdle300
3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum i dont think so it doesnt seem like it
@Michael127gerard
6 жыл бұрын
Have you found the thickness of snare cord to have much effect on response etc ? I recently installed some new wires that came with cord which is really thick. I've found that using this cord lifts the end-plates off the head and forces the wires to press against the center. they sound nice to my ear. (For reference the drum is a yamaha copper and the wires are 20 strand Fat-cat with pitch)
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed! The mounting method can mean the difference between a great sound drum and a non-functional set of wires. You're spot-on with the details regarding the wire needing to be pressed against the head in the center. Too much pressure on the plates and you'll choke out the head and likely have a difficult time reducing extraneous snare buzz. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@jackpainting7150
3 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Hoping you guys can offer some advice...I’m having issues with my Ludwig lm400 blue and olive badge in the high range, ie it totally chokes. I’ve realised that the snare wire plates are not properly in contact with the reso head no matter whether I run the snare strings on top or below the plate. Any suggestions? It’s like I’m only getting contact with part of the wire as it’s not all permanently lying flat on the head? I guess this is probably affecting the medium and low tunings as well!
@frankiepalermo3881
Жыл бұрын
Check to see if the wires lie flat when there’s no tension on them. The wires may be twisted. It was a problem with some of the Ludwig Snare wires that came with supraphonics years ago.
@jackpainting7150
Жыл бұрын
@@frankiepalermo3881 appreciate the response. Changed out to some Canopus wires which are totally straight and lined up equally, it’s a little better but I think you may have highlighted something I hadn’t considered or realised. I also took it to a drum tech who said everything looked fine, played it and said ‘dude, that’s really confusing’. The new wires sit flat when snares are off. I just record and gig with it at medium low tunings. It sounds great in those ranges, but I’ll look at maybe changing out the strainer. Thanks again
@frankiepalermo3881
Жыл бұрын
@@jackpainting7150 you’re welcome, hope it all works out for you!
@terrylangenderfer8720
6 жыл бұрын
Are you going to feature that Gretsch Round Badge in a future video?
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
We sure will!
@dansartin
5 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a wicked buzz sound on the decay from my snare. Any insight on what might cause this?
@SoundsLikeADrum
5 жыл бұрын
Tough to tell, as that's super subjective but it has everything to due with the relationship of tension between the wires and the snare side head. We've got several videos from Season One on tuning up your snare side head and dialing in snare wires that should help. -Ben
@dansartin
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum Rad, I'll check it out. Thanks!
@EmanueleMoriero
6 жыл бұрын
I've always had problem mounting my snare wires. Usually what I do is completely loosening the throw off, disengage it, dial in the wires, engage the throw off and then start tightening. It is the only way for because if I don't do so, I can tighten the throw off to the limit and the wires are still hanging and buzzing like hell. Please tell me what I do wrong, I can't find a single guide that tells me exactly what to do step by step. I've been playing for years and this is something that I still can't get my head around. Sorry for typos or bad english, i try my best since it is not my native language ahah
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! I see what you mean, it is kind of a tricky thing. Here's what I do: As you do, I loosen the throw off entirely before getting started. After placing the wires on the head, I install the strings/strap on the side opposite the snare throw-off and make sure that the length of those strings/strap is such that once the throw is engaged, the wires will be centered on the head. Then (this is the tricky part), I go to the throw-off side and install the strings/strap on that side in a very specific way. I will put the strings/strap into the throw mechanism but then, before tightening the mounting screws, I put tension on the wires by pulling on the strings/strap with my left hand gently WHILE I tighten the mounting screws. This gives you some tension on the wires ahead of when you start tightening up the adjustment knob on the throwoff, imitating what the throw will do when it's engaged. With some drums (especially old ludwigs where you have to tie the strings onto the throw rather than clamping them with screws), I'll loosen the throw all the way and also disengage it while I tie the knot (and I still pull the strings as I tie the knot in this situation, again just to add some tension to the wires before we start turning the mechanism on) because some tension will be lost as the knot settles. This is a super hard concept to describe with text, but let us know if this is helpful to you! Perhaps we'll put together a quick video soon to explain this visually. And no worries, your english is great!
@EmanueleMoriero
6 жыл бұрын
As soon as I put my snare back together (ordinary drums cleanup) I'll try that and see what I come up with! Thank you for taking the time to answer me!
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
We've got a video in the queue right now that demonstrates this process. Cheers!
@joerico9461
4 жыл бұрын
I tried this and the drum sounds great until you put it on your kit then every Tom rattles the hell out of the snare. But standing alone it sounds awesome.
@sdoijhadaoskdjfasokd
6 жыл бұрын
Is there anything that can be done with bent snare wires?
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! You can perform a little bit of surgery with wire-cutters and remove the bent wires, but you run the risk of the sharp bits that remain on the ends of the wires poking through and tearing your snare-side head (or your fingers when packing/unpacking your gear). Bending them back to straight again is virtually impossible in my experience, and given that a new set of standard wires can often be under $10, it's probably best to replace them. Cheers!
@sdoijhadaoskdjfasokd
6 жыл бұрын
The last one I bought online and it bent during shipping since it wasn't a rigid package. I thought I'd bend it back, but then > Bending them back to straight again is virtually impossible in my experience ....totally true.
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Best to request a replacement in that case.
@georgemartinez9685
5 жыл бұрын
My wires sound like they’re loose even after they’re tightened.
@tensheiloguinsa7561
6 жыл бұрын
How to adjust the wire in the inside drum
@SoundsLikeADrum
6 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about drums that have an internal snare wire system?
@tensheiloguinsa7561
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum I don't know what your talking about but sounds like it
@BoxUpMyBones
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum I honestly would be interested in seeing how one works and how to get certain sounds out of it. It would actually be interesting to have one in a "modern" style snare drum, more particularly near the usual "sweet spot" for ghost notes. 🤔
@SAHBfan
5 жыл бұрын
BuddhistDrummer - I have a 1930s Premier Dominion with internal and external snares. The internal snares (on the top head) give it a really crisp tight sound, like a Brazilian caixia (probably spelled that wrong) and you can play really ultra quiet on it and it is still responsive. You can have top snare on, bottom snare on, both snares on or no snares - so four different sounds ;)
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