Thank you for doing this. It is a massive undertaking, and I look forward to the final result. Also powered Z is pretty cool...it's the next logical step and you know you will eventually want it anyway.
@onassisnottage
5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I am in love with this series! The Bahamas votes yes on the powered Z axis!!!!! Can't wait to see your other videos!
@yootoob7048
5 жыл бұрын
I vote yes for a powered Z axis.
@angelg796
5 жыл бұрын
I vote yes also for powered z axis. I have been waiting awhile for this series to continue. Please don’t stop. I’m going to build one once you finish.
@devers6
5 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite project on KZitem at the moment. I am collecting parts and materials to build a similar cutter - I am trying to use Unistrut where practical for the structural parts of the frame, reserving the v-slot rail only for the moving axes and places where the slots are useful for mounting and adjustment. Hope to save a bit of money there. Watching your build will help me identify where best to use the rail. Looking great so far!
@krakaka4726
5 жыл бұрын
11:55 might be better to do that the other way around. So looping the belt through to top of the plate first and pulling back through the bottom. That way when clamping them using the tightwrap the teeth of the belt grab into each other. Hope you understand what I mean. Good luck with the project further on.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! that's the way I would normally do it. I'm trying it this way because it keeps the belt flat to the rail, rather than coming up over the plate first and then down. Just curious to see whether it makes a difference.
@a1mg0d48
5 жыл бұрын
You are making great videos! I thought about building a Laser Cutter myself but many people heavily relied on 3D printed parts, so I am really happy to watch your project ! I guess this project will take a while and I will think about building one for me aswell. I really appreciate that you planned everything and test it and give us all the information on your build. I guess the most difficult part will be getting the right parts, but that will probably be possible after searching a while. Thank you again for sharing this amazing project!
@bytesizedengineering
5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Rob, thanks for publishing your work! Add my vote for a powered Z axis.
@bensherlock5834
5 жыл бұрын
100% yes for powered bed. If you are running a Ruida controller you can have auto focussing by using a stepper etc. My current laser rebuild will be heading in that direction.
@Sundheden
5 жыл бұрын
If you fold the timing belt the other way, teeth against teeth it also locks itself in, not only the friction from the zip ties.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Nice catch, that's how I've done it in the past also. I'm trying it flipped this way round because it lets the belt sit flatter to the rail but yeah may change it if things start slipping
@originaltrilogy1
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication There are some nice belt compression fittings you can get that are cheap and work great. I'll try and find a link.
@UnexpectedMaker
5 жыл бұрын
Pulleys will need "some more betterer alignment"? You are starting to talk like me! Awesome build video. Presented very well, and easy to follow. I can't wait to see this finished!
@TheBmpenn3
5 жыл бұрын
you left little bits of zip ties... lol great vid man love the series
@manuelvillalpando6665
2 жыл бұрын
You make Fabrication, FUN! Thanks for the videos!
@TheUnofficialMaker
2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a good t shirt!
@luigibasa95
5 жыл бұрын
Love this!!! Can't wait to see which electronic you have decided to put in!
@troubridgesj
5 жыл бұрын
GREAT Video! Looking forward to the release of the docs, files, etc. Cheers! :-)
@AstroCharlie
5 жыл бұрын
If you've got a control board with a Z-axis driver... might as well right?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
hmm this is very true...
@ramsing1
5 жыл бұрын
Agree. The steppermotor is inexpensive and its a nice touch.
@Merlin1234-t2d
5 жыл бұрын
Could you use one of these for your rockets? (Hint hint)
@iconjohn82
5 жыл бұрын
You know what's the hardest part watching this video project of yours? the anticipation of waiting for the next episode 4...please stop torturing me. p. s. Nice work by the way.. Very informative with a touch of cubby moments. Good luck Paul
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
hahaha thanks for the comment
@historiadivertida1888
5 ай бұрын
clean clear.. your work is amazing..
@Rockhopper1
5 жыл бұрын
Good effort, love the edward scissor hands nail clippers for cuttimg the belt. Where the belt goes inside the extrusiom I would probably put some teflon or ptfe there to minimised rubbing, Great job looking forward to seeing your next video. Still waiting for the post to bring all my parts so I can crack on with my build. Thank you for a good episode, straight to the point, no frills awesome.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks that's a great idea with the teflon! the belts aren't touching, but they're veeery close
@giovannipetitti1588
5 жыл бұрын
I am sure that in the end it will be a masterpiece.👍
@eggy_ramen
5 жыл бұрын
So excited to start building my own, I'll probably go for a manual z-axis, just to save a bit on cost. I could always upgrade it to a powered z-axis in the future if it is necessary, although in my experience with laser cutters the z-axis is not moved much at all, I think a manual would be just fine. Looking forward to the next episode! Keep it up!
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly my train of thought, thanks for your input!
@originaltrilogy1
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication Yeah, leaving the option in for a powered Z would be great, but on the units I use at work, we move it so little that a manual one would make not much difference.
@Cephalon_Shade
5 жыл бұрын
A powered z axis seems like a good idea. Will save you a lot of time down the road.
@Weird_guy79
5 жыл бұрын
coming along nicely.
@andymottram8546
5 жыл бұрын
Liking the look of the build so far. At the end of it all could you do an extra video telling everyone what would need to be changed / altered to turn it into a cnc plasma cutter. Thanks.
@jangeurtsen7768
5 жыл бұрын
Great video again and an excellent presentation of the build .Definitely add a z-axis motor, it would be a great addition to your project
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It would be a nice 'fancy' feature to have
@skidz8426
4 жыл бұрын
you got this video out quick like 4 sec. after I was finished with the last one.
@Bloodray19
5 жыл бұрын
I worked at two places with a laser cutter. One was smaller but with a motorized Z axis, the other was way bigger with a manual Z axis and honestly i never missed the motorized one. I had so much more fine control over the height with the wheel. I could dial it in just perfect and my cuts were thin as a hair. (i know, that depends on a lot of things, but all the other factors were "perfect" so this is what made a huge difference)
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I've heard mixed reviews about powered z-axis, so thanks for sharing your experience!
@fpvcoder9200
5 жыл бұрын
loving the series! Great job man.
@fyrstorm2010
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great build.
@franckthetanck9905
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, do the powered z axis. Great series, I subbed.
@fernandonunes1011
5 жыл бұрын
I from Brazil, thank you!!
@mamoonnaseer1886
5 жыл бұрын
WTH man, I have been struggling with smooth running of CNC machine and here he is building a cnc/laser cutter.
@juppster5694
3 жыл бұрын
Great work - You are a very talented man! I bet you played guitar for the musical interlude too, eh? :-D Thanks for a fabulous series - trying NOT to binge-watch, I think these vids are best savoured, and contemplated between episodes.
@rickmccaskill7888
5 жыл бұрын
Great work. Can’t wait to see it done. I would like to upgrade my 40 watt to a larger bed and 60 watt laser.
@Catalysis1144
5 жыл бұрын
Great series keep it up!! Am watching this to decide if I should convert my customized V rail CNC to a laser cutter. What I found when working with those profiles with T-slots it is better to keep a few extra T-nuts on the rails while building in case you want to add any component in the future much easier than disassembling things.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! and thanks for the tip, that makes a lot of sense
@mikaelhenning2
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Just awesome!
@DanielGliebe
5 жыл бұрын
When I was building my 80W laser cutter, I found it useful to buy the Hammer HeadDrop T Nuts which can be inserted anywhere along the extrusion and rotated to grip instead of using the slot T Nuts you are using which require insertion at the ends of the extrusions. Makes for a much easier time. :-)
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree, for me, I prefer the slide in ones, I just trust them a bit more
@DanielGliebe
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication And I just saw your previous episode where you address this exact topic! Doh! Sorry about that. For what its worth, all of mine are rotating type and I've had no issues with them for the past 2 plus years.
@AsEr90100
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing thanks help me to much
@rickmccaskill7888
5 жыл бұрын
I would recommend a power z table. I put one on my K40 and love it. Much easier to use.
@rohan25392
2 жыл бұрын
It is very good informative series , looking forward such informative videos, I want to know how can i get vertical movement accessories, like rods, bearings, belts, etc
@christopherhemmings
5 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to a BOM and parts list. I need to upgrade from my k40
@СашкаБелый-ч6м
3 жыл бұрын
Why you need the linear guides at 6:35 (for Z-axis) if you have 4 Rolled Ball Screw? They do not give horizontal backlash.
@OuroborosArmory
5 жыл бұрын
I am watching this because I am trying to see if I want to build or buy a Chinese one...
@thomashendricks9774
5 жыл бұрын
The same reason I'm here. I currently have access to a 50w Epilog laser but not all the time. I would like to have a laser cutter in my house so eyeing the Glowforge as well.
@OuroborosArmory
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hendricks glowforge seems pretty expensive for what you get. For the price you can get a much larger laser, so I’m not sure it’s really worth it. Unless it’s like epilogue and has super support, and you will be using the hell out of it.
@darrenlee8685
5 жыл бұрын
spare parts are made in China
@ramsing1
5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I seem to find so many things on the chinese ones, that I want to change. Maybe better to build one myself.
@kevinm3751
5 жыл бұрын
My thought is, so long as you are doing it may as well future proof it as much as possible and go for setting up the power Z axis. Looking awesome and cant wait to see it finished and in action! Question: Where you cut the belt and used those clamps to tighten it, I am thinking it might be better to use some sort of a spring mount tension system. That way it retains the same tension even down the line when the belt gets older and starts to stretch. Or maybe set the spring tension idea up on the parts you setup to tighten with nuts. Thoughts?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the thought crossed my mind also. especially as the new belts will stretch out quite a bit in the beginning. My conclusion at this stage is, if it's not causing an issue I'll leave it be. Though it might be something I address in the future. Thanks for the comment!
@DarrinSK
4 ай бұрын
Do you include the 3d print files in the plans?
@matthewneesley761
2 жыл бұрын
...So WHY did you say in the printed build guide to initially position the vertical shafts 100 mm in from the corners?? That's WAY MORE than 100mm!!
@MD_Builds
5 жыл бұрын
Nice build making me want to start my own.... As im trying to get my own D: Anyway.... One thing, I noticed when you were ziptying your Y belts. You really should loop the belt so teh teeth face each other. The strength of the zip tie works by the teeth locking onto each other. With the smooth back faces being tied together theres a chance your belt could slip.
@MD_Builds
5 жыл бұрын
Oh just reading comments noticed that some one already said this and you replied :p
@drac08624
5 жыл бұрын
You went through all the trouble of making the z axis adjustable might as well power it
@idankk
5 жыл бұрын
Go for auto leveling the Z as well!
@pw3111
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have access to a 3D Printer. I have downloaded the three booklets for the Y400 model and was wondering whether I could get the Y-Mounts in a format such as Illustrator etc so I can get the mounts cut out of 8mm acrylic.
@DeadiDexx
5 жыл бұрын
Which control board do you plan to use? perhaps something that allows the use of a camera + registration marks?
@electricbrain1736
3 жыл бұрын
The bed moving... Why not the laser head holder instead
@cvasold
5 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍. Subscribed and following.
@onacustomsurfboardsvalenci665
5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so neat I'm seriously considering building a laser cutter just like yours! How about a nice hand crank for the Z axis? I've used the laser cutter at my local makerspace plenty of times and the only time I touched the powered Z axis I still had to level it manually... turns out powered z axis in big machines tend to be awfully wobbly, if it had something like a hand crank maybe I could have felt the pulleys skipping some belt's teeth and not ruin a whole mdf plank lol. Yours should be ok with a powered z axis though, given the size and especially the precision you're putting into the assembly ;)
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! that's a great point about feeling the skipping teeth
@HowardAlison
4 жыл бұрын
In the video you have lead screws moving the z axis (table) with 4 steadying rods. On your documentation the steadying rods have been omitted. Are the rods not required?
@TheUnofficialMaker
2 жыл бұрын
no
@thenotionlab
5 жыл бұрын
I say do a manual Z table. I see you are using nema 17 motors and it might struggle to lift the bed once there is weight on it. If I may ask, why not go with nema 23 motors?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! good point about weight vs nema 17s. I went with 17s because that's what my last build used and they were fine, however upgrading to 23s is definitely still on the table
@thenotionlab
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication Sounds good. Thanks for the series. It will be a great resource for people looking to get into co2 laser. did you come up with an exhaust design?
@toolzshed
4 жыл бұрын
Is the diameter 20mm for Mirror 1 and 2 holders?
@deepwaterbetta2420
4 жыл бұрын
How many watts of your photography light?
@evo-labs
3 жыл бұрын
Is the X Axis genuine hiwin or a clone? I used genuine hiwins in my 3D printer build but they are very expensive.
@kmyerslp85
5 жыл бұрын
I'm confused on the laser head you purchased or the mirrors location. Which are you switching to get the beams path to work correctly because currently that setup doesn't work.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
haha I was wondering if anyone noticed that! I just threw them on quickly when I was adding the components, but don't worry the mirror will be turned the right way round before I shoot a laser at it!
@zl9o1
4 жыл бұрын
I miss the STL files for the Z axis that you use in this video. I can't find them in the files I bought. Am I overlooking something?
@jonasstockton1546
5 жыл бұрын
I think you might have used your calipers wrong at 4:36...
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
hahaha relative distances my friend
@GregorShapiro
5 жыл бұрын
Cut your zip-tie ends flush with a flush snipper (for example Knipex 78 03 125) so you don't scratch yourself bloody on those razor sharp ends (tip from AvE).
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah that's probably I good idea, thanks!
@greengoatman
5 жыл бұрын
On my machine I opted not to power my z axis because it's a lot less fiddling abound with up in down when you move it by yourself, my school laser has a powered z axis and I find it a lot more frustrating to get at just the right height
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a great point, thanks for your comment!
@ThingEngineer
4 жыл бұрын
Just IMO, it’s likely that if you want a laser cutter/engraver of this caliber you already have one or more 3D printers.
@Whiteoverred5
5 жыл бұрын
Put a steeper motor on the z then you can engrave curved surfaces
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
oh I hadn't thought of that possibility, thanks for the input!
@coryjeffreys5146
4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about getting all your files to build your laser cutter. Is there anything you made drastic changes to your cutter that improved it? And if so did you mention this or update the plans?
@brakodeacachimba1185
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a 3D print files for parts of this laser?
@andyspoo2
4 жыл бұрын
Did you get a good deal in the extruded frame parts?
@FurtherFabrication
4 жыл бұрын
I had a local supplier nearby which saved on some shipping costs, but it's still a large percentage of the overall build cost
@KindredNetwork
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I missed it, but I am curious as to why you chose belts instead of lead screws? Was a it a weight and or cost saving method or you hadn't considered lead screws over a pulley/belt system. .: EDIT :. Yes, a motorized Z axis.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Great question! cost, but mostly movement speed. I've never come across a cutter/engraver that used lead screws on the x & y. There's so little weight moving around on the gantry that I don't think lead screws would be a benefit.
@KindredNetwork
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication Fair enough. However isn't the movement speed issue be resolved with a higher thread pitch? The only reason I ask, is lead screws offer greater accuracy as belts tend to stretch over time with use.
@Setmonkey13
5 жыл бұрын
My vote is for a powered z axis. Got room for a rotary access as well?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
don't tempt me haha
@Setmonkey13
5 жыл бұрын
I would love the ability to etch glasses. Having that option would push me even more to doing this build.
@theekdunn
5 жыл бұрын
You could put together a small kit of the 3d parts for sale to those who don't have access.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a possibility, though I'll try to find some good alternative parts as well
@matthewneesley761
2 жыл бұрын
7:46: The PAID instructions CLEARLY show the pulley oriented THE OTHER WAY with the screws on THE BOTTOM. SO I did that, and the belt keeps jumping off the takeup pulley, because the travel of the belt is being forced upward due to the orientation shown in the PAID instructions...That's GREAT, now I get to disassemble all 4 vertical threads/brackets to reverse the pulleys. ARRRRGH!
@SAILxKamal
5 жыл бұрын
Amazing , will it be 100w Laser cutter ?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
I'll probably go with 80w, since that's more of a sweet spot for engraving and cutting for me - and it's a bit cheaper. No reason you couldn't put a 100w in if you wanted though.
@billpeiman8973
5 жыл бұрын
I just had a number of bearing supports arrive and noticed that the bearings were misaligned (pushed in not square); you may want to check that.
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! A couple of the pillow block bearings I got were also seated misaligned.
@billpeiman8973
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication Love your project; have you considered using corexy belt arrangement?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. No I hadn't, I've seen them used on 3d printers but I don't have any experience with them myself.
@billpeiman8973
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication First, the bearings are self aligning, so that's why the bearings looked skewed. The corexy arrangement means long belts, but no moving motors or wires; for a laser you don't need the resolution of a 3d printer. I have 45 years in the cnc service industry.
@pete.n.
5 жыл бұрын
Is it planned to have material pass through?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
At the moment it's got pass through on both ends
@JamalKhan-il3iv
3 жыл бұрын
My help me please buy the parts
@Pan_Borsuk
5 жыл бұрын
about powered Z axis... Just do it!
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
YEAH!
@pete.n.
5 жыл бұрын
Movable z axis! I mean you've basically done all the work already, why stop here?
@Sven.W
5 жыл бұрын
Really cool build, been following it! Keep up the great work 💪
@ErikQuintana
5 жыл бұрын
Un trabajo único, me alegra estar suscrito.!
@Dunc
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a motorized bed. No question.
@trevfindley
5 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome . I'm totally engrossed in this build. Well done so far, and good luck with the rest of the project.
@THEbaDrehtoMrEKCUF
21 күн бұрын
I love this, great Job! Respect!!!!!!
@iheart3dprinting951
5 жыл бұрын
Is there a link for a small donation?
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, I haven't got anything setup at the moment
@iheart3dprinting951
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication The quality of information is worth a few bucks from individuals. I strongly believe people need to be more motivated. Accolades only go so far. Can't feed the kids or pay the rent with attaboys. Likewise the ad revenue doesn't help with the upfront cost of taking on a project. I would like to throw some money your way. Thank you for coming back and continuing your hard work.
@originaltrilogy1
5 жыл бұрын
@@FurtherFabrication Yeah, I'd happily chuck a few bucks in appreciation.
@tombouie
4 жыл бұрын
Thks, but maybe raising/lowering the laser head instead of the bed... Zed axis huh, you folks use the wrong alphabet.
@atibudeen3892
2 жыл бұрын
hello i wanted to know if you have the CAD+MODEL for the rod holder
@briangermain8403
4 жыл бұрын
What is approximate cost for this build?
@SAILxKamal
5 жыл бұрын
Music Please ?
@JamalKhan-il3iv
3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@helderlage
5 жыл бұрын
besise beeing a CO2 Laser Cutter / Engraver, i have no clue about what are you bilding :)... i could not replicate, or even prossead with a simple montage of one finishe equipment like your's... however it is so f***** fascinating seeing you doing and explaine it... BRAVO... a hug from Lisbon, Portugal, EU
@FurtherFabrication
5 жыл бұрын
haha well I'm glad you're enjoying it anyway!
@learnMax
5 жыл бұрын
Go for the powered Z-axis!
@robert5
4 жыл бұрын
VARY COOL BUILD. I would do one thing different since I am welder fabricator I would weld up the frame from 1" thin wall steel tube. I think I would also build it so it could be a router as well as a laser cutter. Now to watch the remaining videos and see how it came out. I think I will buy a cheap K40 Chinese laser cutter to start with then if I find myself using it a lot and need a larger one, I'll re-watch these videos and build my own version using the knowledge from these videos and what I learn from the K40.
@youngjaeji
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I bought your plan and building accordingly. so much fun!! thank you for putting all this up. I have a question about linear bearing blocks. they don't show up in your build guide. Is it absolutely necessary? 4:01
@ammej768
3 жыл бұрын
Going for the mk1 version. V wheels and linear rail arrived today. I have my controller and motors so will be drawing those pretty patterns with a Bic soon!!!!
@rajneeshpratap1234
5 жыл бұрын
Who wants to watch Netflix when you have this to watch. #Awesome
@dougfields23
5 жыл бұрын
powered z axis would be a good upgrade part definatly offer both options, for ease of buildability and upgradability in the future
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