Those wheels were really slipping as the engine started around the wye. The crew did a great job of controlling the wheel slippage to keep the train moving. Thank you for documenting this!
@Green4321
2 жыл бұрын
Why was there so much wheel slip? Looks like there were only three cars attached?
@Green4321
2 жыл бұрын
I just read the answer in the description.
@oriontaylor
2 жыл бұрын
Especially since nobody let it get out of control and “Blue Petered” 4501.
@ThePaulv12
2 жыл бұрын
@@Green4321 Going around a sharp bend I'd say. There's no differential action of the wheels to account for the different radii of the rails so wheel slip could be induced by this. I couldn't see the wheel sanders working. It's possible this was deliberate since it was being filmed - either that or they were working and I'm wrong.
@ICUNA22
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePaulv12 At first I didn't think there were sanding pipes for reverse moves, but there is one behind the third driver. Maybe they were out of sand or maybe the sand pipes were blocked with wet sand (it happens...). Could have been on wet, greasy or oily rail, especially if there was a flange lubricator for the curve. Excellent throttle control during this move!!!
@crazy8ights686
2 жыл бұрын
The scene in which the #4501 rounds the bend before the tunnel with the whistle blowing is incredible. Feels like this is how it would have been 80 years ago. Thank you and stay safe!
@HashDogg06
Жыл бұрын
It gave me chills down my spine as a haunting sense came over me, what a great feeling.
@howardsimpson489
Жыл бұрын
Less than 80, I am 74 and remember icy morning wheel slip.
@jmeyer3rn
8 ай бұрын
This is truly beautiful.
@jmeyer3rn
8 ай бұрын
7:10 it may have been an era when these locomotives got old school that locomotives did not impress but which era was that? I still say this is a living breathing beast that humans must just must stand in awe.
@juans6639
8 ай бұрын
I am 77 years old and remember these beautiful Iron beasts while growing up in the 1950s. My beloved late father worked 38 years for Southern Pacific on the Bridge and Carpenter Gang. I have fond memories and pictures of him. One in particular catching Hot rivets. R.I.P. Beloved Dad.
@ferdinandfrancis9673
3 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Beloved Dad🙏
@Fierce_link10
2 ай бұрын
R.I.P beloved guardian 😢
@VinnyMartello
2 жыл бұрын
A steam locomotive is nothing more than a piece of industrial equipment, an oversized pressure cooker. And yet… it’s one of the most beautiful and fascinating things we have ever seen.
@joerivers1768
2 жыл бұрын
A boiler with 250# of steam pressure is not an oversized pressure cooker It's a very large BOMB!
@whogavehimafork
Жыл бұрын
The most beautiful pressure cookers on earth
@andreas7136
Жыл бұрын
My pressure cooker has no wheels!
@ИринаРатникова-т7п
Жыл бұрын
Главное едет на воде и на всем, что горит😁🥰
@bill091086
Жыл бұрын
@@joerivers1768: wimpy Karen. 🙄🙄🙄
@V0latyleUSMC
2 жыл бұрын
Great talent at the throttle, he didn't even let them slip a full revolution.
@Indianoffroadtrucks
Жыл бұрын
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@ICUNA22
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see this locomotive still operating!! My wife and I chased it from Manassas to Front Royal, Va., back in 1974 when the Southern had its steam program!!! It was in the Crescent Green Southern paint at that time, even though that was never what it wore when in regular service. I like it in both paint versions - it looks really great here!
@alexhaplau-colan5414
2 ай бұрын
They can talk, when I was a kid I was fascinated by them. Is almost human the way they talk, you can feel the effort on them. Wonderful machine!
@cmphighpower
2 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the steam whistle in the mountains ghostly
@louGriggs1944
Жыл бұрын
I love this video. When I was about 8 or 9 we lived about 2 blocks from the DeButts yard in Chattanooga and the sound of steamers slipping their drivers trying to get heavy loads under way was just a common thing, night and day. Those wheel slips trigger pleasant memories for me. Thanks.
@AP9575-jd
2 жыл бұрын
Great picture. The whistle sound when she was approaching the tunnel was perfect. Nice work.
@kam833
2 жыл бұрын
fantastic job on the engine crew keeping that slipping to a minimum
@CraftyFoxe
2 жыл бұрын
The camera quality is so crisp!
@andrewtheberkshireengine4385
2 жыл бұрын
Agree! :D
@nikesb9420
2 жыл бұрын
WAIT WAIT WAIT Crafty foxe I whatch all of your videos
@markusrobinson3858
2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully filmed! Well done. You captured the spirit of @4501 chuffing her way home.
@charliedew306
2 жыл бұрын
Engine 70 at dollywood was slipping a bit Saturday when we rode it for 1st run of the day. Good times it's a 1938 Baldwin narrow gage 2-8-2 from the Yukon and white pass rr Alaska. Now in Tn. They also have a sister Engine #192
@rogerlollar4325
2 жыл бұрын
I've been on that trained before
@RailfanLoy
2 жыл бұрын
I live 3 hours away from those locomotives
@amyreynolds3619
2 жыл бұрын
I ridden in the cab of that locomotive in 1987.
@RailfanLoy
2 жыл бұрын
@@amyreynolds3619 wait they did cab rides
@justahillbilly7777
2 жыл бұрын
@@RailfanLoy Them and Tweetsie Railroad both at least used to do cab rides. There’s plenty of video of cab rides from both parks from the 4 locomotives between them. I’ve heard tell that Tweetsie still allows ‘em, and that you just gotta ask the crew during more regular operations, and not during certain special events. How true that is has not been validated though, so take that bit of hearsay with a grain of salt. Though the first and last time I tried asking for a cab ride at Dollywood a few short years ago, the crewman I was talking with said they had stopped doing them, much to my disappointment.
@crsrdash-840b5
2 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of seeing the old USRA in action. Proves how good of a locomotive they created!
@dannyhonn973
8 ай бұрын
I think 4501 was built in 1912. About 5 years before USRA. Might have been a base to start with the 2-8-2 light
@gokulkrishm51
2 жыл бұрын
I really love when a twin cylinder motorcycle engine roars but this is unparalleled! Steam locomotives will always have a special place in my heart :)
@pilot3016
2 жыл бұрын
Moto Guzzi Le Mans guy here. V11..Nero Corsa. 👍
@gokulkrishm51
2 жыл бұрын
@@pilot3016 Ooohhh that's a great sounding bike! Looks very cool too! I really love how the Africa twin and Tenere sounds!
@pilot3016
2 жыл бұрын
@@gokulkrishm51 Thx. The Nero Corsa model came with OHLIN's too! Unfortunately they also have a oil pan, oil pick up at the front. Mine is being punished in storage. Total rebuild is needed along with a known oil pan mod to stop starvation. Sad. But what a bike to ride!
@gokulkrishm51
2 жыл бұрын
@@pilot3016 Ooh that's sad :'( I hope you can rebuild it soon enough :) Too bad India doesn't get every bike. So many great bikes never come to India. I really wanted to experience the Tenere first hand, but guess what, Yamaha has no plan to get it here anytime soon! Also it takes time for the updated international models to be updated here! And big bikes cost a fortune here, hahaha!
@pilot3016
2 жыл бұрын
@@gokulkrishm51 Best wishes to you.
@DivergingClear
2 жыл бұрын
It could be the resolution I was watching at, but it looked as though the sanders were not in use during the backup move. That would have helped control the slippage if it wasn't, though sand would be an extra expense that they could avoid... running steam isn't cheap. That shot down the throat at Whiteside Tunnel is always a classic!
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
This is Why, I am Still in Love with the Railways
@evanstauffer4470
11 ай бұрын
The sanders seem to be blowing air, but not applying sand. Cantankerous sanders are the nemesis of steam locomotive engineers everywhere.
@joeslayter5841
2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. You could have left the entire tunnel run without an edit! It was that good. Beautiful work!
@DDavis-co9ck
2 жыл бұрын
Drayton, great Video! Looking forward to your live broadcasts to begin again! The 4501 was the bug that bit me when I was a child.
@santeebandit3246
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar camera work. Just wonderful wonderful footage.
@the.porter.productions
2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the Ohio Porters.🇺🇸 What a beautiful piece of our railroad history!🤩 That was a tight curve & pushing some good weight! 🧐 That would be wonderful to ride & also catch while in motion!🥰 Great action! 🥰😎✌️
@anthonyaveray1324
5 ай бұрын
Very well videoed. Lots of views of the driving wheels, that’s what I like to see. Even when the engine went past, the lens stayed on the wheels.. brilliant thank you.
@victorcontreras9138
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I'm always in video heaven when I'm viewing RR stuff, especially old steam.
@truefilm6991
Жыл бұрын
What a beauty! Looks like a light 2-8-2 Mikado with light duty trailing truck, built to USRA standards.
@dannyhonn973
8 ай бұрын
Actually, I think 4501 is a 1912 product. Could have been starting point for the 2-8-2 light
@gabrielbennett5162
2 жыл бұрын
I got to see the SP 4449 Daylight wheelslip like that once. She had been on display at the Oregon State Fair in Salem and there was a short string of Oregon Cherries tank cars blocking the track out onto the main line. Originally Union Pacific was supposed to bring a diesel in to switch them out of the way, but something or other happened that it wasn't available. So, Doyle McCormick, the 4449's engineer, got clearance to use the Daylight to move them out of the way; when she coupled on, she wheelslipped a bunch, but eventually got the job done. The 4449 is great when she's used as intended in fast passenger service and does decently well with freight, but a switcher she ain't.
@brycenew
2 жыл бұрын
Big ups to the Engineer! Masterful control.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
2 жыл бұрын
No surprise that the slipping would occur on the curve -- the wheels are guaranteed to slip a bit sideways because of the curve, and since dynamic friction is less than static friction, that little bit of slide slip primes them to slip in rotation.
@danielgausden4529
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation, was wondering if it was a grade change or if the tracks were wet to slip like that never occurred to me that the curvature of the track might be responsible
@m18tankdestroyer43
2 жыл бұрын
4501 is a beautiful engine!😎
@tomas5376
2 жыл бұрын
It didn’t look like they were applying sand to help control that wheel slipping, but great control never less!🚂🚂🚂
@rescue270
2 жыл бұрын
They only use sand when absolutely necessary because it wears wheel tires and rails very rapidly. For excursion operators re-tiring locomotive driving wheels is a costly endeavor so they want them to last as long as possible. The tires have to be made to order these days. Back in the olden days the locomotive shops often kept sets of them in stock to enable faster turnaround times.
@thomasdupee1440
2 жыл бұрын
@@rescue270 Thank you for the clarification. I, too, wondered why no sand was being applied but thought that it was related to wear. Sand definitely works to increase adhesion but abrasives absolutely cause shorter service life.
@martinsims1273
2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why very few loco's use the sanders these days. Slipping can burn the rails, and, if it gets away, can damage the crank axle & other parts.
@billwatkins276
Жыл бұрын
Great audio! Beautiful shots of the locomotive. Engineer did a great job of managing the slips and just coaxing it back. Would love to have seen the throttle action on the other side of the boiler as the engineer was coaxing it along.
@FTStratLP
Жыл бұрын
Ma grandpa told the story, that when he was a kid him and his friends once put some soft soap onto the railroad tracks at a slight ascent near the village where he lived. Then the boys waited hidden behind trees watching the locomotives struggling climbing up the hill. 😁
@truckerray7533
2 жыл бұрын
The wheels are pealing out on the shiny, smooth, wet steamed, track rail!!!
@zpw31
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Drayton! I really need to get back up there to get the 01 this year
@rossellis4365
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice shot of the 4501 struggling around the wye!
@STho205
2 жыл бұрын
The engineer is not struggling. I live up here and see this one often. The guys are masters. The slip let's them blow off a little speed without braking or jerking the momentum. The can couple up and not even shudder your coffee. It's amazing to see outside and just as amazing in the cars. You have to look for the doubleheader runs videos in the fall. The bend around Rock Spring is like it is 1946. There was one freight run they were doing to get movie stock footage.. all the cars waiting at the grade crossing and at the Lafayette station were antiques.
@lorettashepherd.
2 жыл бұрын
She's a beauty. Nice catch on the wheel slip
@Reggyrail
2 ай бұрын
That was some first class driving
@davidfuller7792
3 ай бұрын
What a beautiful train! I even like the whistle
@FrankDaBank25
Ай бұрын
Its insane seeing those giant wheels slip like that under all that weight
@bigblue6917
2 жыл бұрын
Where I grow up in the UK we had a little British J-72 0-6-0 tank engine which delivered coal to a nearby coal merchant. I remember hearing it slipping on frosty mornings as it tried to get up an incline.
@rossbryan6102
2 жыл бұрын
THE VIDEO TITLE SHOULD READ- “EPIC THROTTLE HANDLING!!” THE WHEEL SLIP BEING WELL CONTROLLED!! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍
@Ryans_Rail_Films
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your videos are awesome and inspire my channel!
@ToledoRails
2 жыл бұрын
Right Place at the right time! Good catch
@nanopreechapond3000
9 ай бұрын
I think the wheels on steam trains are very charming when they turn.
@peterzito1372
Жыл бұрын
Just beautiful love the steam and the whistle machines that ran on water and coal
@espeescotty
2 жыл бұрын
Ole A#1 was up to his old greasing the rails trick again! 😉
@jonlannister345
9 ай бұрын
Amazing amount of torque. Simple piston just filling up with compressed steam
@tomtroszak
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just phenomenal quality and sound.🤟Somewhere I have a video of 4501 struggling around a heavily-greased wye down in the Deep South while pulling something like 21-25 ish heavyweight coaches - which was also pretty epic in the wheelslip department😁 But that video quality would be embarrassing by comparison to what you have captured here, which is truly superb. Anyway, I cant help but notice here that there are some (exhaust stand?) drains blowing oily condensate *directly on the railhead, directly ahead of the drivers* on both sides, and a (feedwater pump?) blowing exhaust and drippings *directly on the railhead, directly behind the drivers* --- pretty much guaranteeing extra slipperyness in both directions, all the time.😂 It makes me wonder if it's intentional...😏The old gal is notoriously "over-cylindered" to begin with, which only adds to the fun. Anyway, the fact that such a "big engine" is running on such a "small railroad" is an amazing testament to the never-ending awesomeness of TVRM - both management and crews - which somehow make this glorious spectacle possible... at all. Thanks for sharing that awesomeness!
@SOU6900
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I knew this was 4501 just from the thumbnail image.
@MyOtherChannel-hm2lf
10 ай бұрын
Company initials + engine # " - A, Severe wheel slip, Out." The soundtrack to every rainy night with beltpack😭...
@garrettsubproductions8705
Жыл бұрын
That is super cool seeing the big old SOUTHERN wheel slip
@smitty9733
8 ай бұрын
It seems unbelievable to me that you can actually spin those wheels with the immense weight on top of them. Incredible power.
@ecphorizer
8 ай бұрын
1:39: Love the way the conductor gently holds his mic!
@johnwalters1341
Жыл бұрын
At 4:43, nice Carolina Wren song.
@MetikalMan
2 жыл бұрын
I feel retarded right now. I literally just realized, at 34, that the chugging sound is an exhaust sound, not from the tracks. The sound would regularly correlate in my head to some kind of clanking of separate tracks or some dumb idea similar. It was so cool watching it slowed down like this chugging away on power pulses.
@durgeshvelhal9304
Жыл бұрын
Love the whistle 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@robinhood48
Жыл бұрын
This engineer really know his stuff.
@prsearls
2 жыл бұрын
The wye's sharp curve doesn't help the situation. Looks like the engineer had good control of the problem. That is a fine-looking Mikado; I'm glad she's still under steam.
@darylsmioth1904
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice any sand coming out of the sanders. All the other slipping clips you could really see the sand dumping out but GREAT clip anyway!
@3RTracing
2 жыл бұрын
excellent whistle
@ReadingRailFilms
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌 dang that's crazy!
@kratoscarnage5228
Жыл бұрын
Sound and bells looks like to feel polar express movie ❤❤❤
@Marlene-Ferreira
9 ай бұрын
💫🌟❤🌟💫❤🌟💫 If I was on that LOCOMOTIVE... I would've been in my Element... I Love The Wheel Slips!!!! SO COOL!!! THESE GUYS ARE A TREAT!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! 🌟❤🌟❤🌟❤🌟❤🌟I had to look it Up to Say How I wanted to Put it!! In French, "JE NE SAIS QUOI" literally means "I don't know what." IT'S USED TO CAPTURE AND INDESCRIBABLY, SPECIAL DISTINGUISHING FEATURE, THAT'S WHAT STEAM LOCOMOTIVES STAND FOR... FOR ME!! ME'S A GIRL!! I LOVE LOCOMOTIVES ❤😂❤😂❤😂❤
@acersalman8258
2 ай бұрын
Beautiful very beautiful good machine ❤
@cedarcam
2 жыл бұрын
Well filmed action and a good engineer on there
@JodyBee
2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Eustis Florida and I remember that Orlando northwestern passenger car and a few other goodies that are now apart of TVRM
@RailfanLoy
2 жыл бұрын
Word of warning. Don’t go to the tvrm When they are doing day out with Thomas. Worst mistake of my life
@adogeatingapieceofbread9335
2 жыл бұрын
What happened
@RailfanLoy
2 жыл бұрын
@@adogeatingapieceofbread9335 to many kids
@chugwaterjack4458
Жыл бұрын
I remember from my youth, as I lay in bed at night, I could hear the UP switchers (0-6-0's at the time, before the diesels) struggling to make up trains in the Cheyenne yards, just four blocks from my home. Their wheel slip was quite distinct, and after a while, one could almost identify who had been called for goat duty that night.
@johnbrown9092
Жыл бұрын
Excellent driving skills by engineer. Great video. 😊
@ErnestImken
11 ай бұрын
The fasinating part of steam engines is the machinery is on the outside for everyone to see.
@cliffweinan3907
Жыл бұрын
Great short video, capturing romance of steam; whistle is not a horn. Steam invented and used before most of us born. Amazing heavy shop labor that went into building and maintaining these locomotives on a mass scale that supported world war efforts. If every drop of oil is gone in future, they may have to rethink burning renewable fuel like wood again.
@corriegetman6535
Жыл бұрын
Trains get a go bye-bye when they're weel slipping like they're zooming
@ChainsawNW1218
2 жыл бұрын
ChainsawN&W1218, always cool to see driver wheels slipping, seen some good footage of N&W1218 backing up with its drivers slipping.
@PortsmouthCherokee
11 ай бұрын
Thats just beautiful
@monsterdemolitionman1235
Жыл бұрын
like all other steam locomotives and just southern railway locomotive number 4501 what she just did was amazing and I hope that her siblings 722 and 630 will see each other some day
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
I Love That Steam Engine
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@danielwalton9012
2 жыл бұрын
Get it? Got it! Good!
@northpennvalleysteamrailroad
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video of 4501!!!
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@danbedford5419
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, luv them steam 🚂
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
Жыл бұрын
Great video...👍
@chrisrobinson5874
2 жыл бұрын
great footage here thanks for sharing 👌👏👏
@rixretros
2 жыл бұрын
What a nice Mike !!! Geat throttle control by the hogger !!
@davidkimmel4216
10 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@smollsaladhonestmistakes9493
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic shots, however, who else agrees that 4501 looks better in green?
@arupnath3477
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful view of locomotive 👍
@gingereby182
Жыл бұрын
They are just like, WE NEED FULL THROTTLE UP THE HILL WITH SAND!
@kevp9601
2 жыл бұрын
I Love It a Lot
@johncave9181
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent control
@geneticdisorder1900
Жыл бұрын
Wheel slippage.. When your power performance ratio out performs the gravitational frictional grip of your roundy things on the surface you’re riding on !
@vaughnmcmillan8400
Жыл бұрын
I don't need to tell all you Casey Jones wannabe's out there, why it's imperative that the engineer's got a gentle throttle hand in order to prevent wheel slippage. It's to be avoided at all costs. I was real impressed with the engineer starting at the 2 minute mark for how well he kept it under control, and how quickly he regained control when it did. Very smooth driving there.
@Patric5590
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍😎🇺🇸🚂
@JodyBee
2 жыл бұрын
That horn is amazing by the way ☺️
@wellingtonnorthjunction3911
2 жыл бұрын
British ones are better
@williamedwards1528
2 жыл бұрын
@@wellingtonnorthjunction3911 UK whistles have no soul
@williamedwards1528
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's a whistle
@vlogsify1862
10 ай бұрын
nice burnout man-
@LuzNoceda511
2 жыл бұрын
How can someone dislike this?
@glocksp80smd
Жыл бұрын
I wish we still seen them around our tracks
@Stefan_Boerjesson
Жыл бұрын
Clearly a skilled driver controlling the slip that well. Time 03:00. Is there no sanding equipment on the loco? During my time as fireman I walked beside the loco using a bucket to add sand on the rail.
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