I think Bo Nix will end up being a surprise great pro
@RB-.-
6 ай бұрын
Signing day deadline discussion and more NCAA court stuff woooooooo
@spencerleland6772
6 ай бұрын
There's no football games for 6 months. I'm sure you have plenty of great ideas for what the shows topics should be?
@MrDrewmooz
6 ай бұрын
I’m happy the players are getting money… but man. I things I loved about college football are changing… and if we can get into more eligibility, full free agency… even a draft!! The appeal of college football to me is dead… it’s sad. I never watch NFL but would watch any college football game available - because it was all about young men playing for the passion of their school (that they chose)… but all of that is dying 😢
@rayontita1912
6 ай бұрын
This is a very fair comment, but the best of those young men were already getting paid under the table. Bagmen, envelopes, car dealerships, houses etc. There was passion (and still is), but passion doesn't pay bills and many of those kids come from really brutal backgrounds. The passion will still be there. Guaranteed. If coaches can move freely, so should players. They commit to schemes and staffs. There's a need to harmonise everything to make it sustainable for sure. However, there's a reason the recruiting rankings are so vital, there's a reason so many CFB coaches don't cut it in the NFL. The Jimmy's and the Joe's make them more than the X's and O's. Take away the talent advantages and many of them are really just salesmen. Time to pay the real stars too.
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
The question of whether it's ethical for young athletes to receive payments under the table raises complex issues. The notion that two wrongs don't make a right resonates deeply with me. While I empathize with individuals from challenging backgrounds, the argument that they should receive payment simply because of their circumstances warrants further examination. Should financial support be extended based on one's background, and if so, how do we value the opportunities already provided, such as college scholarships? These scholarships offer more than just an education; they provide a lifetime of benefits, representing a significant investment in the future of young individuals from all walks of life, particularly those from underprivileged backgrounds. Having experienced the life of a scholarship athlete on campus firsthand, I've observed the array of resources and privileges afforded to them-access to top-tier facilities, personal tutoring, complimentary meals, and a network of influential individuals offering endless opportunities for personal and professional growth. This perspective challenges the narrative that collegiate athletes are universally exploited or disadvantaged, highlighting the substantial benefits and opportunities that accompany their roles. While it's undeniable that there are instances of injustice and exploitation within college sports, these should not be seen as the overarching standard. It's crucial to engage in a more nuanced discussion, moving beyond sensationalist headlines and social media commentary to understand the broader context and the myriad ways in which athletes are supported and valued within the collegiate system. The reality is far more complex, and while there are certainly opportunities for improvement, it's important not to overlook the substantial benefits and opportunities that many athletes receive. @@rayontita1912
@rayontita1912
6 ай бұрын
@@JBK415 no question, nuance is needed, and I don’t disagree. However, my mentioning of their backgrounds was simply to contextualise their situations. It wasn’t intended as a legal argument. The legal argument was put forward by Justice Kavanaugh (writing on behalf of his fellow judges) in the Supreme Court’s unanimous ruling on the matter. It is plainly illegal to exclude the possibility of people who perform such valuable work (and it is work) getting some form of direct pecuniary benefit. That part of the fight in itself is over. SCOTUS was unanimous (and that’s IMPRESSIVE given how divided America is right now) and the wording of their ruling seemed to invite more people to bring matters of a similar nature before them. Now, the next legal battle is over whether or not they are employees. Preliminary decisions are mixed, but obviously judges have to consider the effects (in precedent) of ruling either way. If it goes all the way up to SCOTUS, it will be interesting to see what they decide. What schools (and the NCAA) will find difficult is arguing in one chapter of their filing that student athletes are not employees and then arguing in another chapter that they should have the right to control the athletes’ ability to transfer contractually. Both cannot be true. They have to choose one. The other legal battle is over the NCAA’s anti-trust situation with their rules on transfers and NIL. Tennessee and a bunch of other states are on it against the NCAA. If that goes all the way, the NCAA will lose that emphatically. Preliminary rulings suggest this, with a judge recently indicating that claimants were “likely to succeed” on the merits of the Sherman Act. Here’s how I see it: College athletes are not slaves, most D1 athletes live pretty well. But at a certain level, living well is not enough when you’re not receiving the value you put out. Scholarships are not objective compensation. If I decide that my university costs $50,000/year for out of state kids and then give you a $50,000 scholarship, I haven’t necessarily paid you $50,000. It’s effectively a coupon. If your value to an institution is $1.3 Million/year, then an arbitrarily valued scholarship, a gym (which is necessary for your ability to play the sport anyway) and lodging isn’t enough. Of course this will vary on a case by case basis, but the principle is that it should be possible to pay them. Excluding that possibility (banning payments, punishing people who pay them etc) is unlawful per SCOTUS.
@stephenjefson9775
6 ай бұрын
Y’all need merch
@lsuvsfar5071
6 ай бұрын
One problem I see with a potential draft is that players would have to sign away their rights to transfer, right?
@kgk4L96
6 ай бұрын
I've wondered when was the last time a major NFL coach willingly left his position for CFB? Bill Walsh? Now, how many big time coaches have willing left CFB for the NFL?
@Jon.A.Scholt
6 ай бұрын
Yes, Jim Harbaugh was fired, but in 2015 he could've gotten an NFL that off season had he wanted one. He chose to go to Michigan over an NFL team that off season. I know it doesn't technically fit your criteria but it is close.
@johncombs829
6 ай бұрын
I know you all are having fun with draft talk but school admissions make it impossible.
@tavianthomas4402
6 ай бұрын
Wow.
@twister148148
6 ай бұрын
Didn’t Chad Kelly the former ole miss QB get into a fight at a HS game?
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
What is the lifestyle and quality of life of Minor League players in Baseball, Hockey, XFL/USFL/UFL? These college athletes are given so much; I think it is crazy that they believe that these kids owned anything. Again, I suggest forcing the professional leagues to open their leagues to 18-year-old individuals.......if you want to be paid, then go pro. If you want to play college athletics, get an education, and be athletically developed, then go to college. I don't want to stop an individual from having the opportunity to make a professional income, but this is to be done through a professional league and not a college system.
@Sooner_Spy
6 ай бұрын
I agree! The problem is the ESPukeN, FOX, NBC & CBS Medias of the world viewing collegiate football as their piggy bank to fortunes which bastardized college football to what it is today. College used to be a place for student athletes to go to obtain an education, get a degree and prepare themselves for life in the real world. Now, college has become a place for kids to go grab a bag of cash, waste their college learning experience, and spend 1-2 years getting paid to play football or basketball before going pro. It's nothing more that media making billions exploiting college athletes to get rich.
@tavianthomas4402
6 ай бұрын
I agree, but unfortunately college football is playing on a different playing field than those other sports. And, for what it's worth, a QB at Notre Dame is worth millions more dollars than a pitcher on a minor league team. The economics are in different stratospheres so to compare them is apples to oranges.
@rayontita1912
6 ай бұрын
There is absolutely nothing in the definition, statutory or semantic, of the college experience that precludes them being paid. College kids work real jobs along with their educations all the time. Even kids on full ride academic scholarships can choose to work real life jobs to supplement their income. The Supreme Court will not let the NCAA or schools successfully argue that a rule should exist that allows them to pick and choose which part of student status the athletes can have, especially if it has the effect of suppressing market value (anti-trust violation). The NFL will not give up a free farm system like CFB and spend money on a minor league system. That's money (setup, overhead, customer acquisition etc) they don't need to spend. Any attempt to compel them to do so will be met with stout legal opposition, and the NFL can afford to fight these battles in court. The only reason you think of professionalism as being separate from college football is because of the illusion of amateurism. The guy that came up with that spent his final years on earth saying how wrong he was. Nothing about college as a concept makes it the antithesis of professional work. It has been at least 50 years since broadcasting revenue came into the sport. That was the end of any amateurism that existed. That was also the end of any pretense of education for the elite teams. Do you really think degrees in things like "human relations" have any real life applications? They just exist to keep the "student" part of the tag defensible. College football makes way more than the other sports primarily because of the generations of players that built up these college brands, and the incoming ones who could do the same. Which is why there is such a fuss over recruiting rankings. If these were just replaceable robots, then nobody would care where all these 5 stars went. It's why Kirby and co care so much about getting these freaks of nature in their buildings. It's not about their essay writing ability.
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
Nothing I write will change anything; my intent is to drive thinking! It seems you and I are observing different realities. On one hand, there's the factual state of affairs, and on the other, there's what's morally right. The reality is that hundreds of thousands of people are entering our country every day without proper authorization. The right approach, however, would be applying for a visa or citizenship and gaining approval before arrival. While the majority welcome visitors who come temporarily or those who aim to become citizens, as many have done before, there's a clear distinction between reality and the ideal path. Globally, and certainly in our country, cash often takes precedence, with many prioritizing personal gain over moral righteousness or the greater good. This is an unfortunate aspect of life. Regarding college athletes, my stance is clear: I have no issue with them holding a real job. However, earning money for working out, practicing, or playing college football games is where I draw the line. If one wishes to be paid for playing football, there are appropriate avenues like the Arena League, UFL, or the NFL. I fully support those who seek to earn through KZitem by garnering views or securing advertising sponsors, or those who land commercial deals with companies like State Farm, provided their compensation is market-appropriate. However, I do not endorse foundations giving players exorbitant sums for minimal effort, nor do I support car dealers offering $500,000 for a day's work when professionals like Patrick Mahomes earn significantly less for similar endeavors. The issues of loopholes, corruption, and manipulation, which essentially amount to sanctioned cheating, are tarnishing the integrity of the sport. In conclusion, I have no objection to young athletes choosing to pursue professional sports over college education, which is fundamentally intended to enlighten young minds. My preference leans toward a college football landscape where 90~95% of players graduate. Currently, 46% of NFL players hold college degrees, indicating that many utilize college as a stepping stone to professional sports rather than for educational purposes. Allowing them to directly enter the professional arena might be the best course of action.
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
Is college primarily for obtaining an education or for pursuing a career as a professional athlete? My concern lies with young individuals being misled into believing that college serves as the minor leagues. I fully support any young person who opts to bypass higher education in favor of a professional sports career. Take Shohei Ohtani, for instance, a Major League Baseball player who recently inked a 10-year contract worth $740,000,000. After completing high school, Ohtani did not pursue college; instead, he entered the professional baseball arena directly. In his initial two seasons, he earned $17,000 annually, and by his third year, his salary jumped to $913,000. I believe any quarterback from Notre Dame would be willing to play in a lower-level league, understanding that with dedication to their craft and outstanding performance, they, too, could potentially secure a $740 million contract after a few years. Similarly, consider LeBron James, who was drafted at 18 and received a four-year contract valued at $18,788,000. These examples highlight the viability of young athletes, at 18, transitioning directly into professional leagues. @@tavianthomas4402
@powerhouse539
6 ай бұрын
Ohio St owns their own Hotel
@powerhouse539
6 ай бұрын
Nabers will be the first WR drafted
@Guthbox
6 ай бұрын
That would be really surprising to me, but maybe I’m biased because I saw him get clamped up 2 years in a row against FSU
@powerhouse539
6 ай бұрын
@@Guthbox Both are top 3 prospects. theres some teams that have Nabers wr 1
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
I am so against paying players, I blame the NFL, why can't the NFL be forced to change the draft age to 18, if you want to be a professional go to the NFL.
@CRang973
6 ай бұрын
18 year olds would get injured significantly more without those 3 years to develop properly. It’s nothing wrong with paying the kids it’s just the rules need to be fixed to prevent all of them taking money and leaving for more money
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
I don't disagree with the need for any athlete to develop, BUT it is not the responsibility of Colleges to develop athletes. Is it a PERK as a "COLLEGE STUDENT" while getting your degree. @@CRang973
@JBK415
6 ай бұрын
The relationship between college sports and professional leagues warrants a thoughtful evaluation to ensure that appropriate actions are taken. One potential solution could involve professional leagues, like the NFL, establishing partnerships with existing leagues, such as the Canadian Football League (CFL) or the United Football League (UFL), to create a more formal pathway for athletes who prioritize a career in sports over collegiate education. It's essential to clarify that college is not, and should not be treated as, a minor league system for professional sports. The decision for young athletes should be clear: if their primary goal is to pursue financial gain and a professional career in sports, then moving directly to a professional league is the appropriate path. Conversely, if education is their priority, college offers an invaluable opportunity to achieve academic goals alongside athletic development. This approach respects the autonomy of young athletes to choose their paths based on their personal goals and values, ensuring that each pathway is supported and structured to meet their needs and aspirations. @@CRang973
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