Stay away from people who's first move is to run into towers and your PVP experience will greatly improve.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Knowing how to pick your battles in PVP is an obscure art, it seems.
@TheAscendedArchmage
16 күн бұрын
People? you mean 99% of dc and ad right? x)
@cowspoopmagic1
16 күн бұрын
"Stand there there and get Xv1" "LoS is an exploit"
@skulpturostone4621
15 күн бұрын
Run'v'Xers
@Kieran.Rob53
15 күн бұрын
@@skulpturostone4621Those people are very highly skilled, the ability to run into a tower as opposed to simply standing there and dying is not a bad thing, it’s intelligent
@yun.mp4728
16 күн бұрын
I think the main cheating bugs you’ll see are keyboard binding to instances in the game, or controllers that are coded to do certain things. For instance in PvP having an instant break free, automatic blocking in between skills and weaving better inputs can give you an advantage. But it won’t outright save you against any skilled player. The main problem in this game is lag not cheating
@SilverScythe65
16 күн бұрын
Those things don't sound very advantageous. They just sound like an automatic empty stamina bar.
@1848revolt
16 күн бұрын
This and they act like it's me. It's the game.
@yun.mp4728
16 күн бұрын
@@SilverScythe65 you’d be surprised how many more fights you’ll win if you correctly learn how to block. But having it on every tick you take damage is silly. Like I said lag will still kill anyone dead, and is any players worst enemy or biggest crutch haha
@Euphonia_
16 күн бұрын
It’s pretty easy to block cancel every skill, it doesn’t take a script
@NotinterestedHanna
12 күн бұрын
I'm on the oh so amazing PS5........ guess what.........lag.........I got a gig of bandwidth thru mediacom..................still have lag.........now the other day......I saw a group of characters 15 or 20 couldn't tell really running using the same move moving the same way as if they were all one player and I assumed it was.
@Cwibacca
16 күн бұрын
My favoutite whisper to get is "You're (mispelled your) just a Fengrush fanboy." Because i play DC. As if he would know me from a hole in the wall.
@BlueBaron3339
16 күн бұрын
This year marks the 40th anniversay of what we now call the MMORPG. Been there for all of them and have seen this same behavior pattern in every single one. The root problem is addiction. People playing not because they want to, but because they have to. Addiction is a fundamentally anti-social condition and can manifest itself in behavior akin to outright madness. It's more of a problem in ESO for more reasons than can fit into a credible YT comment. Short version: ESO relies on Skinner Box mechanics and player addiction to monetize the game.
@shadowasrial2158
16 күн бұрын
I personally love when a PvE player says they reported you for killing them in either imperial city or the various towns in cyrodil and are questing. I’m sorry but being killed by a player in a PvP zone even if you are just completing pve quests is not a reportable offense even if they keep killing you over and over. It may be that you as a pve player are just the only other player they can kill so of course they will capitalize on killing you as much as they can for either Ap or telvar.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
And, often, when those same players outnumber you by a big enough amount, they will magically turn into PVP'ers and try to swarm you.
@shadowasrial2158
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte which ends up with them usually wiping because unlike PVE the tank has no power over me! I simply wait until they are the last one standing and usually they either give up trying to rez the group, or die because I kept cc’ing them every chance I got until they ran out of recourses until they die.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
@@shadowasrial2158 Oh yeah, the only time I ever sent someone something that could be remotely classified as a hatewhisper was when I sent 'Nice try' to a PVE'er who had tried to 3v1 me after I had previously ignored them, which of course resulted in their rapid demise.
@user-fe5ky1qh6x
16 күн бұрын
I personally know people who use macros to max dmg from animation cancelling. Especially on bash builds
@user-fe5ky1qh6x
16 күн бұрын
Also some guys love to use this on builds with relequen set or blood for blood skill.
@DoyouknowtheHweii
16 күн бұрын
Just because they are good at it doesnt automaticially means they cheat thats the thing you can see in cmx or even see the consistenty of it but something like blood for blood is easily cancelable
@user-fe5ky1qh6x
15 күн бұрын
@@DoyouknowtheHweii I said “ I know them personally”)
@DoyouknowtheHweii
15 күн бұрын
@@user-fe5ky1qh6x Fair xd
@barrywalters6268
10 күн бұрын
@@DoyouknowtheHweiimy dude made a random account just to comment that, I believe him😅
@JimPence
16 күн бұрын
I don't take hatewhisper seriously, but it's unfortunate that there are always a few bad actors in any community who damage the entire game with such actions. I can always laugh it off when players accuse me of being a cheater. I've invested thousands of euros in this game, so I'm not going to risk a ban over something so trivial. Great video!
@SUBJECTM01
6 күн бұрын
Now, when you said *invested* ?
@JimPence
6 күн бұрын
@@SUBJECTM01 i mean invested a lot of money in the game, bought things you don't need
@Official_JakeClips
16 күн бұрын
Great video!
@User-skdbfksjf
16 күн бұрын
Yes, I have half a brain as the video said. This is common sense. Some support cheating in comments. Quite noticeable, lol.
@likes2playcatch844
15 күн бұрын
I've been around long enough now to say i have come across many people that actually do cheat on multiple accounts as well as every new exploit that is found you can guarantee certain individuals will be using them. Whenever we see them on any of the accounts that have been verified and confirmed by multiple sources on we just tend to ignore them an take the fights elsewhere and they soon get bored with nobody to fight. Although on another note when the unlimited meteor was in the game that shit was pure cancer at the same time funny until you ran into a group doing it then was too much lol
@Grimsforge-Gaming
16 күн бұрын
Really well made video! Someone once threatened to land a plane on my head irl.. I reported them with a screenshot and they are still running around in game! 😳
@1848revolt
16 күн бұрын
I've seen cheaters in cyrodiil. The infinite speed hack the flight I've seen.
@Kovuhiko
14 күн бұрын
3 Major cheat exploits DO need to be addressed. 1- Q out of imperial city at any moment without any penalty. 2- Scribing skills pulling players into enemy safe area getting insta killed. 3- Lightning staff Tri-focus heavy attack hitting Players with the splash dmg after hitting ads or bosses. This Tri-focus bug insta kills any player that comes nearby another enemy player heavy attacking ads, somehow the game reads the splash damage done to players without the pvp damage down penalty. In other words, players are being hit like if they were pve ads and with a pve heavy attack build, any player within the splash area will damage them by up to 35k, maybe more.
@Azuraaaaaaaaa
16 күн бұрын
idk sounds like a video a cheater would make
@sandroaugst2238
14 күн бұрын
😂
@JasonAndrew-zf3wx
13 күн бұрын
Haha right!
@RainFox919
12 күн бұрын
Amen oh and ESO dont care
@Splintygames1
11 күн бұрын
😂
@benjamineer3045
16 күн бұрын
Is this a Jigatus appreciation video?
@TheAscendedArchmage
16 күн бұрын
Cheaters and exploiters are not banned. For proof there's many xp exploits that can help reach 3600 cp quiet easly (i'll not share them for obvious reason tho) and these are out for almost 5/6 years. Also abusing mechanics, or scripting isnt banned either, some nb on PC EU greyhost are 99% untargetable (i'm talking about stealth issue, just plain untargetable) yet been doing this for years.
@poshlinahui6039
12 күн бұрын
I was threatened with report after i teabag'd our dead tank corpse in random dungeon...
@bryanbowen4193
16 күн бұрын
Some players have been cheating in the past and were banned. There was a cheat where on the client side you could adjust settings that on paper aren't noticeable.
@devilpig6
17 сағат бұрын
I commented before the video was finished... But my best rage whisper came from Law Dog and lasted 4 days... He saw me in a big after I told him in a KZitem video that he wasn't the best player as he claims... I kited him up a tower so we'd have some alone time and he couldn't beam me from behind his group... It lasted 3-4 seconds and he was waiting to respawn... 🤣🤣🤣 He was so mad, he was misspelling words and making no sense at all... That went on for 4 days... It was wonderful...
@Degonyte
14 сағат бұрын
Lol. Sounds like healthy behavior alright.
@ThatJordyGuy5
16 күн бұрын
It's rare to have a PvP raid as a DD without getting at least one of these whispers. Recently I killed someone who looked like they were afk, only for their salty whisper to come through the moment they died. 10/10 moment. Also I love that I recognised those serial reporters instantly
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
When someone suddenly stops in the middle of a field, you know they're typing a hatewhisper. 😆
@Euphonia_
16 күн бұрын
we send from 5 guilds
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
talk to gm in the morning?
@stonefire2795
16 күн бұрын
This is actually another problem because some guilds actually do that kind of thing and the number of reports leads zos judge the accusations to be true. And, all things considered, reporting system in eso is quite poor as it’s inefficient and hard to use for the general playerbase but at the same time easily exploitable by people with issues who are hell bent on banning someone
@nuarBlack
11 күн бұрын
It literally takes 2 minutes to find cheats for ESO with up to date comments saying it still works.
@Degonyte
11 күн бұрын
Try them and see how long you last.
@jmbproductions1838
12 күн бұрын
When a player has unlimited resources, takes virtually no damage so that it takes a dozen and more players to kill AND they deal a crap ton of damage, too, you can guarantee that's a cheater. That's what I look for. Months ago, there was a guy who stayed in the keep after we took it and it took 15-20 of us to kill him. I'm not a good player, but more than a few who were there with me are good players. they didn't die, but many of us kept dying to the ONE guy and he never ran out of stam or mag. Nobody can tell me he wasn't cheating lol. The game doesn't allow enough equipment slots to have unlimited rss, high damage and high resistances.
@skulpturostone4621
15 күн бұрын
Actually, there is still an add-on, miat pvp alerts. It's prohibited by ZOS, but it still works. For example, people start dodging and rolling, when a nightblade starts casting bow spammable "snipe" from 40 meters away and in sneak. He cannot see you, but he gets a notification of casting. Not only snipe. Javelin, dark flare also. And yeah, sometimes we in our small PvP discord get a hand on some s-tier players macros. Via some mutual friends, who used to play in this s-tier premade groups. And what about holding heavy attack while casting snipe and releasing them both at the same moment, bypassing GCD? But, all in all, the game is poorly balanced, so some tanky boys can in a duo wipe 5-6 people groups. Or just infinitely survive. And also have burst potential. I just saw such a duet in Cyro last night. Sometimes it is so frustrating, I mean. And there is little to no progression curve or guides to become like those godlike players. We, mostly casual PvPers are doomed to be cannon fodder because of not knowing those s-tier dirty secrets.
@FriedEgg101
6 күн бұрын
Miats addons exist, but that functionality is in the vanilla game. If you're out of combat and someone casts a ranged skill with travel time at you, then the combat music will start playing before the ranged skill reaches you. The further away, the more time you have to react. I've never used a miat addon, but I'm often able to do this, and it's annoying to think people will assume I'm cheating. Also light and heavy attacks are on a separate GCD to skills. And ultimates also have their own GCD. So it's possible to cast a light attack, skill and ultimate in 1s, without cheating or exploiting. Misinformation and misunderstanding is part of the problem.
@skulpturostone4621
6 күн бұрын
@@FriedEgg101 there is literally another youtuber who does bow heavy+snipe . Heavy. + Snipe. And ofc in the middle of a fight dude always dodges javelin, while not even facing me with no chance to see it coming. Even a weaving macros saves a lot of brain energy and attention. There is also an ild video here, on KZitem, where a player hits the dummy without and with macros. Just LA+Skill macro. There are also d-swing - medium macros. Not gonna lie, all this small problems are nothing, compared to class balance issues, for example. I spent too much time and money to just drop the game. But it starts to look like skam more and more.
@Old_Spicy1
5 күн бұрын
I'm still trying to figure out the 5 attacks in one sec with no animation.
@Hey-Jensen
16 күн бұрын
Being a Sorcerer lmao
@TheJoker-cz2rc
14 күн бұрын
Dont u blame that pellican guy all the time of cheating when he beats u?
@AkinosPvP86
15 күн бұрын
LMAO, good video, in my experience the people that usually send the most hate tells and are generally toxic are usually the people playing the meta OP classes, mainly nightblade and sorc mains who develop a god complex while playing said classes that are so strong that when they do happen to die in pvp they tend to send hate whispers and hackusations because to them dying to anything in pvp while playing those classes is unthinkable, especially when its to a class thats generally deemed the weaker class.
@thelegendarysmokey
16 күн бұрын
nerver played ESO, like the video anyways. Good Script and nice execution! Keep it up
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Thanks man.
@baccusolypus234
16 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting some of us vicariously appreciate being accused of cheating :) Irritating, but as you suggest, also a compliment. Some interesting insights into the psychology of game play.
@ksbrugh9886
16 күн бұрын
How did you get this KZitem video uploaded so fast. You must be cheating lollolol
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
I had this video ready a week ago but KZitem servers lagged.
@Jack-The-Gamer-
16 күн бұрын
I will say, switching alliances to leak movements of other teams isn’t “technically” cheating, but it’s pretty dirty. It’s one of the many reasons alliance locked is the most active PvP.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Very few people actually do this, though. The reality is that the movements of most guilds in Cyrodiil is painfully easy to predict. If an AD guild takes Carmala, you can bet a fair bit of gold that they'll be at Rayles 5 minutes later to try and take back their scroll. In any case, what I talk about in the video is referring to someone who stated that playing for another alliance than the one you started with, under any circumstance, constitutes a cheat. Which is obviously a bit silly.
@Jack-The-Gamer-
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte oh yeah, definitely. And I wasn’t trying to discount what you’re saying. Just giving another perspective on the whole “alliance switching” thing.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
@@Jack-The-Gamer- Yeah, there is definitely trolls out there. Like people who switch alliances to hand over scrolls. But rigid faction loyalists in this game are a different breed altogether...
@Jack-The-Gamer-
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte what do you mean? Any race any alliance was obviously invented so I can rep Ebonheart in every race. 😂
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
@@Jack-The-Gamer- As someone who mains Bretons and Dunmer on AD, I refrain from any commentary. 🤐
@KhamulESO
13 күн бұрын
Shoutout Jigetus, good video! Its tiring hearing all the nonsense excuses when ppl die.
@chrisromani8109
11 күн бұрын
Cronus is a problem on consoles.
@D4rkstone1337
16 күн бұрын
My reason for cheating didn't show up so I will add it to your list. You are hitting all your Light attack's
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Definitely grounds for a permaban, that.
@christinejones6277
16 күн бұрын
I will add that reporting a player and having them blocked does not prevent you from being matched with that player in things like Random Dungeons or Battlegrounds. I had someone harassing me that I reported and blocked who I ended up in a RND with the very next day, during which they continued even with them blocked (I was in the group with a friend who was able to relay everything to me and they deliberately ran AoEs over me multiple times trying to kill me). You'd think they'd at least prevent you from being paired in limited instances with people who you've reported and blocked...
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's a good point. Putting someone on ignore in ESO doesn't really do anything apart from preventing them from sending you messages, which is insufficient if the messages aren't the main problem. I suspect that preventing people from being grouped together requires a lot of extra tracking of individual player data, so ZOS either don't bother with it or straight-up can't do it with their technology. Be that as it may, 'put the person on ignore' as the initial response to player tickets isn't really the way to go in those cases.
@User-skdbfksjf
16 күн бұрын
Thanks to the video we watched. Now I realized when they called me a bad tank or fake tank. Idk how but I'm sure they exploit me in vet dungs to drop my block. It was my first suspicion. It's soo dumb I'm also the group team.
@flambingy
15 күн бұрын
you know that you have LEVELED UP when you receive cheating accusation whispers and a report threats. Never thought it would be their coping emotions hahah
@RazielNightfall
16 күн бұрын
Careful how you reply to the /whispers. I got a 3 day ban for replying "Zos says I shouldn't worry because your salty you can't get gud . To be fair, I started all my replies with Bless your heart.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Someone once told me that 'bless your heart' is Southern US slang for telling someone to get f'd, so maybe customer support caught on to that. But seriously, support often seems totally random with who they do/don't punish.
@RazielNightfall
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte ya I know. I would also get a 72 hr vaca in wow for telling hate whispers to go find their hand. Listening to the gun slinger series from Steven King gave me a lot of ammo when posting replies to hate.
@jimmy2745
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte The "bless your heart" is what sweet Southern women tell dummies when they say something dumb. It's akin to saying, "I'm sorry you're dumb." I've lived in Texas for more than 60 yrs now, and I've been married to one of those "sweet Southern women" for 35 years. She has nvr said it to mean 'get f'd.'
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
@@jimmy2745 Heh, the general gist of it was that it's negative, and not about actually blessing one's heart, which is what I was getting at.
@Euphonia_
16 күн бұрын
reportet
@sorenvalen
10 күн бұрын
someone explain how in one second you can be hit by 5 dizzy swings by the same person i have had alot of alot of ppl i have 80 to 100 ping to the server this is not lag on my end but how did they get 5 hits in i understnad a skill and a light attck or mabye a proc but how many times have you been hit by 5 even cyrtal farments in one second this is the the issue i end up calling someone a cheater for is when it 5 skills that only hit one time but it shows 5 attck mabye i dont know how they are doing it but thses sadly are confusing things the game does not make clear someone i see alot of procs and i read the tooltip this happen for someone build for warden nunatck hiting in 2 second 40 provc felt really werid till i seting his build it jsut seemed borkeing based on tooltip
@Degonyte
9 күн бұрын
Please use punctuation because I can't read this man, sorry.
@bookmagic9641
9 күн бұрын
Yeah i totally get what you are saying, when the tooltip showing how you die says you were hit by their skill or proc for 5 or more times but they killed ya in just 2-3 seconds at the most...those skills and procs shouldn't be allowed to hit from just 1 person that many times due to global cooldown being 1 second for each skill ability and for some procs should only hit once in 2 seconds. The game is showing it as either cheating or the game is showing it wrong. Either way it isn't a fair fight when someone can kill others instantly without even them having 1 whole second to cast anything, and even worse when game claims they got 5-20 attacks on you in that 1 second of actual time...and I am not even talking about a ganker.
@dannyc3954
7 күн бұрын
Wow I can't wait to get good enough in pvp to be accused of cheating.
@jasonchui111
16 күн бұрын
Most of the time is just casuals do not understand game mechanics. Most common one encountered is they do not know proc sets and skills enough to realise you can align them to all hit within 2 second window time frame. Second one is they do not understand well enough how buff and debuff as well as stats optimisation can min max your character to be both tanky and deal decent damage, while their poorly put together toon gets obliterated within 5 seconds. 3rd is they do not play all class and hence gets hard countered without even realising they got completely out classed when fighting in and against certain situations.
@Flatzn
15 күн бұрын
take it as compliment and trigger them more. their gameplay: is like 45% looking at map, 45% reporting ppl, 10% riding
@andyfranklin707
12 күн бұрын
As a relatively new player I've never been accused of cheating or even tried to cheat myself. I get killed a lot in pvp but that's just part of the game. I understand that as you play more you get more experience and learn to get better. The main problem is we as a society overall have lost a lot of our manners. Growing up before the internet users had so much dominance in daily life you had to know how to be polite and have at least some good manners. We need to take our losses as well as our wins in stride and be less emotional about our hobbies and game play.
@StarOfElyon
16 күн бұрын
I will never get why people get a thrill out of exploiting.
@graviton763
16 күн бұрын
Reportet cheater i got all on vid 🐸
@nomad4594
13 күн бұрын
I just say "thank you" to hate whispers. It usually works.
@devilpig6
17 сағат бұрын
I just nod my head and smile when I get called a cheater or trash or trash can or bot... This is an emotional sweat's way of acknowledging through denial that you fucked them up... 😂😂😂 As a NB main, I love it...
@Lord-Juanpa
13 күн бұрын
Thank you for standing up and speaking FACTS.
@hirogaminglat.7210
12 күн бұрын
we got to report those people !!! They killing this beautiful game ! cuz i know some people using Macro
@TheBigOBob
16 күн бұрын
Ive definatley seen those who get AP boosted early on to get a large lead on leaderboard... watching those gain nearly a mil AP over the course of a couple hours... def cheating.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
AP boosting is against TOS, zerging an empty map at the start of a campaign isn't.
@TheBigOBob
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte agreed... I'm not talking about PvDooring early on... definitely seen boosting and the two players were reported. But I'm in guild where I hear some players say "cheating" or claim "macros" and those I always call out as being rediculous.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
@@TheBigOBob Yeah I really hate AP boosting, but luckily it can be proven pretty easily. Caught a few players doing that myself. ZOS also acts on this stuff from what I've seen.
@TheBigOBob
16 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte yup... that person was removed from the leaderboard the next day as we had taken clips when we reported it.
@mattthompson3714
13 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte They don't act on it! There's a guy on PSN EU who shamelessly boosts AP to the top of the boards every campaign, nothing, nada is done about it! He even boosts the multiple accounts he has to boost his main account!
@polvocorrupto
16 күн бұрын
The real cheaters are long gone, except the "autododgers", which have been around for 2 years and use a modified version of CrutchAlerts addon to get alerts to rolldodge against players' skills in PVP.
@LogicalDae
16 күн бұрын
reportet
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
macros off!
@ericcardinal9138
11 күн бұрын
lol. i use summoning sets. when dueling, i often get called a cheater for having my personal mobs going after them along with my bear (i'm a warden). i don't nothing wrong. i simply use totaly legit sets (which aren't the best). other times, i get called a cheater for summoning my bear nonstop, as the other player kill it. it the warden's ult. it as zero cost. of course i'll summon it again, if it's killed. there's also those calling me a cheater in cyrodil for pushing them off the bridge, letting the piranhia kill them. the bow skill that push players away is perfectly legit, and so is it's destro staff equivalent. there's also the players calling me a cheater because i killed them which they were talking to npc (doing quests). it's part of the game. why wouldn't i? still legit behavior. there are also those calling me a cheater for doing an ambush near hq gates. i fail to see how doing an ambush is cheating. from my point of view, it's a simple tactic. final exemple i can think of. those calling me cheaters only because i'm running fast. they see me going toward them, start attacking, but i don't stop and continu toward the fort which was my true destination. they think i'm a cheater for what? because i'm don't consider them as important a target as a fort? because i didn't act like a sitting duck, letting them kill me?
@fdsgdxfgddfgdfgdfg3814
16 күн бұрын
Its because the game is horrendously, atrociously, disgustingly imbalanced in pvp. If you come from another mmo and see someone who can tank 10 people, heal to full hp with one button press, and then turn around and one shot those same 10 people with one combo, that looks like cheating. No, its not cheating newbies, Eso is actually just that badly balanced. You can't go into eso pvp thinking tank=bad damage, because more often then not its the opposite. In any other mmo if someone was doing this it would almost certainly be cheating, but in eso thats just how it is. Pvp is a dead husk of what it once was and the only players left are the le epic 1vXers whose sole purpose in life is to run laps around towers and put you in their sick montages. Just play a different game honestly. You can cope and say that you would shit on them in a game with balanced pvp(and you would probably be right). Its not worth it to play eso for pvp anymore. I mean that explains the cheat accusations from new players, but now why those same le epic 1vXers who literally never log off think I am cheating for Ganking them on my nightblade I will never understand. They know damn well from experience that nightblades can do insane burst, but they always got to call you a cheater. I think they just have such massive egos from owning newbs and watching their own 1vX montages on loop that they have convinced themselves that they cannot die fairly. Anyone that stops their montage must be cheating. Genuinely bigger crybabies then the newbies most of the time.
@MultiKwolf
4 күн бұрын
the guy doesnt play any other mmorpg he couldn't even comprehend what this is about, let alone read it
@superslacker87
16 күн бұрын
I call out cheating in chat, but I hope that I do it in a way that comes across that I'm obviously joking.
@LTLurch
16 күн бұрын
greatings from an old eu player that just will play pvp for ever so long eso exist
@TheOneXash
15 күн бұрын
Honestly my youtube account is gonna get suspended if I post the craziest whispers I ever got on ESO, I can send you the screenshots on Discord though, do you have a server I can join?
@Eso_lags
16 күн бұрын
The problem with eso is that there is no incentive to get better. So you have garbage players repeating garbage accusations that they hear from other garbage players. I've gotten these messages countless times across the years. Both on Xbox and pc. And I have never, ever, fought a player 1v1 or outnumbered that I thought was cheating.
@wdeemarwdeemar8739
16 күн бұрын
I play on PC NA. I was horsing across Alessia bridge a guy ran past me up the hill and was gone in 2-3 second I talked in discord to my group he arrived at sej as I was commenting. We all reported him. As for getting messages I get dm all the time. A gankers life.
@mobspeak
16 күн бұрын
They (ZOS) should just fire all of their spaghetti coders.
@errabbitc
8 күн бұрын
I alliance swap all the time. I don't spy for any alliance.
@errabbitc
8 күн бұрын
i get killed alot in pvp, I don't accuse them of cheating. I just kindly say nice kill.
@mihanshid2158
12 күн бұрын
I have never sent messages but i have reported all of the cheaters i have seen, most of them were not in pvp though.
@darlenehoover6577
16 күн бұрын
Grievers found a new tool.👍
@User-skdbfksjf
16 күн бұрын
They stopped being mean to me ever since this occurence. They are quiet as hell now! Holy goodness! But i can tell they want to say something to me in group dungs. You just feel who they are. Cause you get harrassed soo many times. The worse whisper msg i got was a threat msg about my friend in game. He said something of he didnt want him alive irl. That he hopes he will... etc. I wouldnt say it. I didn't report. I was thinking eso was just a bad social game for mature audiences. Ive recently heard about Rich, the eso dev. They are negatively impacting reverse merhod of workplace. Its nothing of how youd improve. They obscure that developer.
@Not_3z
16 күн бұрын
hmm i definitely agree on the reportet guy haha Some people don't understand the buffs obviously & have had poor teachers & the game should explain it better tbh, I agreed with you up until you started talking about bypassing global cool downs.. which is a common excuse that people use when using the biggest cheating device that's plagued every game since it released, Actual cheaters on all platforms of eso use it because they want a perfect rotation in pve & pvp can auto heal etc all sorts lol Surprised it wasn't mentioned here tbh not saying you use it at all for a cheater video 100% should have been mentioned though!
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
None of the players who the featured whispers were directed at use such a device, and the few people out there who possibly employ such methods can get away with it in part because these accusations get thrown at everyone and everything. Boy that cried wolf and all.
@Not_3z
16 күн бұрын
@Degonyte I guess so.. someone on ep should help that reportet guy understand the buffs especially group buffs, He even called me a cheater when in our ball group & I'm the most anti cheat on any game type ever! Despise people that cheat! Cheating also comes in many forms though on eso people are so petty like really really petty try gang up on people because alot of which don't even play the game properly in general.. different alliances form alliances via discord & because cyrodiil crates a hivemind playstyle it also creates a hive mindset, upset 1 upset 30 on each alliance that only wanna kill you etc & constantly team anyway possible to do it xbox was really bad for that lol I've had people from my own Alliance stand next to our ball group so others can proc him & kill us bozos forgot about the killfeed though & I screenshotted it each time always found his way next to our group when that group kept proc'ing him which in turn killed us lol emp boosters, teamers all sorts I've encountered personally cheating accusations from inexperienced players isn't even that bad compared imo haha
@Duz.n
16 күн бұрын
It is so good to recive msg like that... but i just recive a few, Im not that good xD
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Keep improving and you might too might be considered to be a cheater one day!
@clb1024
16 күн бұрын
I agree with most of your views, however as an older player your wrong about us just thinking that something is a cheat because we didn't know it was in the game. As far as the whispers, it's just whining wiper snappers 😅. I don't respond or report as it just isn't worth my time. I play to enjoy the game and not worry about making someone feel better about the lack of abilities.
@Degonyte
15 күн бұрын
Just to be sure, I am not saying all or even most older ESO players are like this. I know plenty who aren't. I have just noticed this particular 'subset' of whiners who usually fit a profile: older, lead zergs or zerg guilds, very vocal about how they think others should play the game, not very aware of what is possible in the game. I know a handful of players who fit this description to a tee and they're the ones who came to mind when I described this type of player.
@General-Sun-Tzu
13 күн бұрын
Gonna start linking this video to all my hackusers lol.
@3batscarr718
15 күн бұрын
I got a perm ban on an account that didnt even do pvp (bar getting the skills on some toons) and I got permanently banned for 4 days bcs I threw a pie (from the jester event) at a guard and the guard glitched out and didnt care so I did it again then I got a 307 error....basically I hit some form of anti cheat on an xbox 1.....with a in game item and using it the way the game wanted me to use it...
@RainFox919
12 күн бұрын
Thats exactly the justification video a Cronos, Autodoge, Autoblock "Mod" user makes. Cheating in a MMO just a myth you cant cheat bla bla bla.
@Degonyte
12 күн бұрын
Which I didn't say in the video but thanks for playing.
@DoyouknowtheHweii
9 күн бұрын
and you are exactly the type of person that does that to cope that you arent best player eso rip brotha
@Justintime2GrowNetwork
11 күн бұрын
When you play only the meta you do seem like you're cheating to someone who doesn't.
@evo444
16 күн бұрын
I wouldn't really about your account if you rack up false reports. I probably got more than 1000 hackusations and tons of whispers with "reported" and some saying they recorded a video of it, but I've never gotten any suspension before. If anything, I guess they might check your account for other stuff like Chat logs for naughty words or Character names as apparently that's happened to some other pvpers.
@Splintygames1
16 күн бұрын
There is a pay for add on people are getting.
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
understandable have a great day
@xX.D3DP00L_Xx
15 күн бұрын
he knows about it splinty. this video is contradictory to say the least. full of people in glass houses throwing stones.
@Degonyte
15 күн бұрын
@@xX.D3DP00L_Xx I don't but keep making shit up.
@derekcorman2112
11 күн бұрын
Ever seen the bots that farm on a script? Ya...now apply that to pvp where you can script a string of attacks and skills to fire off with perfect timing of 8 actions with one button. Get a grip dude and stop implying a problem doesn't exist.
@Degonyte
11 күн бұрын
Those same bots that are always level 4 because they get reported and banned super fast?
@MultiKwolf
4 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte They still exists TODAY and you're saying they get banned "super fast" ? are you blind or just dumb?
@deustauries
12 сағат бұрын
I cant speak for pc but on console , the max skills/attacks per second you can do is 6. And thats including 2 bashes. So 2 attacks, 2 skills, 2 bashes. Its impossible to do 5 skills per second on console. Especially since the skills have about 0.3-0.5 second delay. So yes, theres a huge issue with cheating lol. As mentioned, idk about pc but on console, on xbox specifically, in gray host cyrodil, safe to assume 1/3 of the players cheat. Edit: On xbox, ppl that are friends and are in different alliance literally farm poonts so teaming, griefing, boosting and the such do happen very often. Spies are also a thing.
@jmbproductions1838
12 күн бұрын
My other thought was: 99.9% of the game is downloaded onto each individual computer. Why is it so hard to believe that someone with Bethesda coding knowledge couldn't hack in and reprogram their skills, and mask what they did to scrutiny? There are some wicked bad hackers out there with amazing skills. Who's to say none of them game?
@orgun7413
16 күн бұрын
alot ppl still use ps4/pc/xbox cronuszen and strike pack same ppl who play cod lol ... ps5 locked device but bypass by usb dongle its there macro script is a thing in pvp pve alot console game and pc have macro script nothing new
@jacobring7274
15 күн бұрын
Is making macros cheating? Or is it just part of “getting gud”?
@Degonyte
15 күн бұрын
It is against TOS and you can get banned for using one if discovered.
@shaunwhite2514
15 күн бұрын
Nice take on blame it on the boomers.
@Degonyte
15 күн бұрын
Maybe listen to what I actually said.
@TheJoker-cz2rc
14 күн бұрын
Ok boomer
@_allthatjazz_8667
12 күн бұрын
No cheating im eso,thats just not true,so many cornus/macro players that just burst everyone.just just hear Sound and 5-6 skilled in 0,1 second.
@Degonyte
11 күн бұрын
Where in the video did I say there is no cheating in eso?
@nuarBlack
11 күн бұрын
@Degonyte hahaha not even close. Seen plenty and 2k plus CP
@Degonyte
11 күн бұрын
@@nuarBlack A bot farming train with each character has 2k CP? That seems highly unlikely.
@konkats-tg7pf
16 күн бұрын
yes, no1 used the double weapon enchantment on named jewelery, no1 used the bug were you can use potions every 2sec. come on bro cyro is full off cheaters
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
And once these exploits become public knowledge they get patched out.
@DoyouknowtheHweii
16 күн бұрын
For a short time but when they get patched its gone again
@konkats-tg7pf
15 күн бұрын
@@Degonyte imagine how many we dont know... an "op" content creator knew about the jewellery bug for 6months, he "never" exploited it but relesead a video 3days before fixed.. creators blur their ability bar, i wonder why? 2months laters i learn they pop potions every 5sec
@xX.D3DP00L_Xx
15 күн бұрын
yeah i get all sorts of hate whispers, but the craziest thing ive encountered was when i belonged to 2 guilds. the trade guild decided to repeatedly trash talk about the pvp Nightblade guild on their discord saying all sorts of derogatory things about the other one without even knowing who was in the guild at all. they just decided that everyone in the other guild were worthy of being made fun of without knowing anything about them. i wonder who would do such a thing. one person was especially critical of our guild. made several comments calling all of my friends trash because they received hate whispers from one person in the guild.idk, maybe you remember who that was, ive forgotten. i decided to leave that guild , discord , and unfollow the people in it at that point. not a fan of talking bad about people behind their backs.
@Degonyte
15 күн бұрын
Yeah that was after like 10 members from that guild [Lords of the Shaft / Bows n the Hood / whatever they call themselves] came to my video to call me a useless zergling for making an off-hand comment about KZitem ganking content. A guild like that can't expect to command any sort of respect when they behave like absolute dickheads.
@loooree3883
16 күн бұрын
CHEATER GROUPE OMG
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
You tell that your grandmohter!
@darkprince210
13 күн бұрын
Thè cheat that i dislike is the one where a player has a toon in their underwear and have many scamps running behind them and when you look at their name and it shows like 7 different names
@aurorathekitty7854
16 күн бұрын
I've been playing on and off since 2016 and i haven't really seen any cheating in PVP but have seen players using exploits but i don't count that as cheating that's completely on the game developers.
@sk8legendz
16 күн бұрын
Ive had 40k resistances, 20k pen, 6k Wd/SD 1800 recovery and all damage Cp slotted And there were still players that I could barely do any damage to while they melted me. Entirely. I don't think they're cheating. But I definitely think there's exploits that can put you ahead of most players running a non exploited build. In fact the stacked set exploit was evidence that this isnt impossible. It's also always the same players that I run into this situation with. It's never a randomly skilled player. It's always someone who seemingly get saved by the exploit bell.
@User-skdbfksjf
16 күн бұрын
I know what you mean. I have 48k resistance, 25k pen, 3k regen. Or even high dmg 40k pen and hit the minimal dmg. If u want to beat in pvp go with Dots cuz they have minimal dmg. If it's a DK use shield it stops affecting your resistance lvl completely. Tarnished is really bad cuz it's called meta gear. You know where I'm going. Look at death recap screen. It tells you exactly how they cheat. Also I've learned in some other games they do lobby hacks so no one else gets in trouble using the exploits. As you see their language shows you how we'd speak defending there was no evidence of.
@DoyouknowtheHweii
16 күн бұрын
Well because meta can tend to get very strong in eso
@EnKayNem
11 күн бұрын
tldr get gud
@LTLurch
16 күн бұрын
ai you are right but the old sneaky exploits like using a special cp with mara and raiyling ore with the set scavanging demise with one special drank will be not removed. olso i agre most older players will be reporded just only they know how to get out multible attacks in few seconds its normal and new players just dont know how they do it. and in moment oll older players get reported from new dudes corse they just know how to use the srcybing system for there benefit. But olso take in mind corse its since nearly release everytime a new dlc that get aout even if many players said obout the problems on pts it will be stay for few weaks ore month after releasing it on live server and many experiaced player just use it to exploit it befor it changed. mostly without no konsequesce. there is only one think that i realy dislike is about a special addon that allured you even if your enemey is in sneak/stealth and out of range corse u use a meale weapon so they dodgeroll emediatly but if you stay in range and target one and mage your havy midle ore litle attack you can recognise who use that addon
@Lithrons
16 күн бұрын
skibidi
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
what the sigma
@thepatriot6966
11 күн бұрын
I think a lot of these percieved instances of cheating is down to lag, decyncing and unfixed bugs going back over 7 years. Zenimax's stubborn refusal to aknowledge saaid bugs or server performance is the worst sin of all. But nerds being the morons they are still give Zenimax their money. So i have no sympathy for any one that bitches about the game's state.
@User-skdbfksjf
16 күн бұрын
Okay I had to laugh soo much. Playing tower defense in imperial city xD Omg that was soo fun. I didn't exploit I was wtf is that getting pulled to the tower. I legit used shield throw and laugh at all those players huddling in tower defense😂 Now I realized 831k logins went down last month. I was soo confused. I can't make sales now tho lol. There are 7k-14k players on PC NA now. I still luv pvp. My recent BG I see quad hits and NB 10 abilities in use of 2 abilities. Ofc I die. It's accuse. They talked in zone to get me in trouble when i said one thing. They happen to create their own idea making you reportable. Causes you to get reported. I reported 2 months ago about pvp cuz I can't play. Stopped me to hold block, heavy, lose resources standing still, 0 regen, 50k days of burning/hemorrhage status. Yeah correct they weaponized the support assistance. Cronus if anyone knows what that is...
@Doodelz02
16 күн бұрын
Played since beta, near daily. 3,200+CP, 20 toons, ALL with 320 skill points min. All know every slottable skill in the game. Never really prioritized PvP. 3 Colonels, 17 with all skills unlocked and typically at least a few ranks higher. Last event took my sorc to do town dailies. Heavy armor, Reinforced Chest & Legs, impen rest. Oakensoul. Nothing special ... the alliance I used owned 90% at the time and was just there to get boxes & scripts . Jumped off the Vlastarus tower. Sure, bit of fall damage but I always pick my landing spot to mitigate. Was dead before ai hit the ground. 2 heavy attack ticks, 2 global cool down spells, and another I didn''t pay attention too. Rezzed and repeated. Added Sorc shield. Same result. Figured he'd get bored, but nope. I finally gave up and moved to another town. ** Before hitting the ground ** I thrilled to learn from you there are no cheaters in ESO. Good to know.
@trottersindependentgaming3028
16 күн бұрын
Jigetus01 i purposely dont block him because his cheating msg is to funny when i told him i was using controller he said hahaha you admit using auto aim lol
@Apoxolypse
16 күн бұрын
I'm not sure just how much you've actually looked into the cheats that are available for eso. There are active damage hacks that essentially stack your basic attack on top of each other based of the value you put into the program. so for instance if you put in a value of 4 a single basic attack will hit 4 times off of 1 basic attack. there is also a cheat that when someone targets you generally when on your attack bar the game will instantly switch to the backbar without you even touching your weapon switch. another one that is active out there is imagine having a 2 bar build that gives you all Major and Minor buffs as if you were running oakensoul.... Take the time to look at the active cheats out there for the game before you start saying anything about people saying it doesn't happen as often as you think lol....
@Degonyte
16 күн бұрын
Cheating happens in the game. The whispers featured in the video were all directed at people who weren't. If anything, the abundance of these accusations makes it more difficult to catch actual cheaters.
@sw-gs
12 күн бұрын
So in short: 1. Cheating is in every MMO. 2. Cheaters are banned pretty fast. 3. Some people are better than you, but it doesn't mean they are cheaters. 4. If you call everyone from cheaters in PvP, you are not welcomed in the community. 5. Become better in PvP. Now you. Yes you, the person who reads this comment. You don't need to watch this video anymore and instead go, train in PvP. Become better and don't be such whiny ass.
@MidnightRider420
11 күн бұрын
PSNA all cheaters😂
@psyche_06
10 күн бұрын
There are lot of unexplainable things encountered: -PsNa, when one alliance gets low pop bonus but its 3 bars for hours. -1 hit kill on my screen but kill feed is filled
@danielwood4171
9 күн бұрын
I call those messages FAN Mail ....... and then I get smashed by someone else 😂
@valontiorossi
16 күн бұрын
the 5 abilities in 1 sec is def @jegetus 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lindafortner578
16 күн бұрын
What about if you have 25 2 30 people? I'm one player and that player doesn't health. Doesn't go down. Nothing staff, so go down. Nothing tell me that's dad. That's something that's cheap. I don't know what they did to do that, but it makes it hard when they kill everybody in one swipe. I mean, you can't even kill them with that. Many people, and I like some of your builds, too. I like to find a building A good bill for magic, a templar that can withstand being hit like a crazy, but still hit like a truck
@DoyouknowtheHweii
16 күн бұрын
Well those are minmaxed out builds most of the times
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