You're one of the few people I see do a soft version of sanchin I was always taught a hard version
@azlaroc12
4 жыл бұрын
Simply superb. Thank you.
@Shinobi1Kenobi
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting essay on Sanchin.
@squifflessquaffles6339
3 жыл бұрын
I've only been training Uechi Ryu for a year but already I'm enjoying Sanchin. So far I'm only able to do the movements but tightening everything and getting my Ki flowing is a challenge I feel I'll be working on for years. I'm 23 by the way, so I still have a long way to go. Sanchin already gives me tools for combat, the spear hands, circle blocks and double thumb strikes. I subscribed and am looking forward to seeing more content! Oh and if any senior Uechi-Ryu practitioners have pointers I'm more than thankful to recieve them.
@MartinJutras
Жыл бұрын
Tightening blocks the flow of ki.
@TOMHILLSVISION
8 жыл бұрын
Hi Hayashi, Good explanation as usual, Our Goju Sanchin is a little different but the principles are the same. Good understanding of the energy practice. I have many reservations on exact foot positions (for example I think 45 degrees is too extreme and would apply too much pressure on the knee ligaments). But there is a whole unwritten encyclopedia on the subject of Sanchin. Well done for attempting the first few pages. Regards and respect Tom
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
Tom, always good to hear from you. I agree about that 'unwritten encyclopedia.' What we need is a forum to open up a broader dialog. Too little is being discussed about the Sanchin form(s) in this regard and there is a lot of misinformation out there. We've had no problems with the foot angle here, but avoiding undue stress on the knees is important. We see a margin of about one to two inches of difference before there is a noticeable switch in meridian flow. So each practitioner has to be sensitive to the joint pressures throughout.
@TOMHILLSVISION
8 жыл бұрын
Hayashi, Regarding the foot position. I like the idea of geometry; Take a point center of the heel and another center of the ball of foot directly behind the big toe joint. Imagine a line intersecting each point from each foot they would converge (as you turn your feet inward (but not 45 degrees)) a few feet in front of you at the point of force of the punch. This allows for good energy transmission, either physical energy or esoteric energy (Chi). Sanchin is a geometric and body dynamic marvel, but I have noticed that even a very small discrepancy in position sometimes less than an inch changes the effect considerably. That's part of my thinking (and feeling) on the subject. Respect and regards Tom
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
I agree. The geometry you ascribe to is accurate. As you mentioned, there is a precise range of motion that maximizes a move, after which muscular power drops off considerably. Proper mechanics generally reflect a technique’s esoteric nature. We both know the knees, hips and breath must also be aligned. Where it gets interesting for me, for example, is when you ask a student to run an imaginary line down the outside of their legs to the ground, which opens the Yang channels by means of mental visualization, then without changing a single biomechanic of the stance, the strike will be suboptimal. This is why we get two schools of thought; the form schools and the no form schools. The latter dispenses with ‘perfect external form.’ Here we have two means to accomplish the same end. Always good to chat, Hayashi
@TOMHILLSVISION
8 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! Regards Tom
@varanid9
8 жыл бұрын
When I studied Bamboo Forest Southern Mantis, we used the toes pointed in. Chow Family Southern Mantis and the White Eyebrow boxing I practiced, however, had the toes more forward in a natural position, though the elements of ground gripping, squeezing with the thighs and sinking were the same. I saw pictures of another White Eyebrow school that used the pidgeon-toed stance. If you read the description of Hsing-Yi's san-ti posture, the description is the same as sanchin, even though the stance itself looks more like a cat-stance. I understand that Okinawan Tomari-Te's version of Sanchin also eschews the pidgeon-toes in favor of a more natural foot placement. I have come to the conclusion that the toe-in foot placement came from some teachers who needed to see physically that their students were applying correct principles rather than for any practical reasons.
@herstar9510
3 жыл бұрын
Really cool thanks.
@AD-dt8kr
8 жыл бұрын
Just curious how this type of training relates to say weightlifting...?
@mustafazeyneloktem6577
4 жыл бұрын
Sanchin in slow motion would be helpful. Thanks
@smileyou100
8 жыл бұрын
Sanchin with sandals. Never seen in my life.
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned this. It’s a bigger topic than one might expect. There are four things to consider in regards to the feet; current training trends, foot protection including hygiene, the effects of various footwear on internal practices, and the aging martial artist. The U.S. is trending toward martial footwear, not just as sparring gear. There is a rise in immune system compromises in the U.S. population as well as indicators that the modern foot lacks the durability of old world practitioners. More young people are flat footed. They have less arch in the foot leading to faster foot fatigue when barefoot. If you are training barefoot 1-3 hours on hardwood floors, your feet should hold up okay. More than that and you want to watch how your feet are feeling. I’ve trained 20-35 hours barefoot weekly for over 45 years. Arch support is an absolute must or you will ruin your feet as you age. Lastly, with internal practices it’s important to have consistent training uniformity. Barefoot is one way to do it. The other is to train consistently in the same kind of footwear. Constantly switching the type of footwear can yield different biofield results.
@varanid9
8 жыл бұрын
Why not? Chinese boxers do it with boots on.
@Jameskeith1972
3 жыл бұрын
We have a Matsumura Sanchin in our system. Its very difficult.
@christophergoedecke8071
2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy, I am familiar with a number of Sanchin variations. It could drive one crazy to understand the reason for each one. As long as you are looking for and/or practicing the principles behind it, this form is worth pursuing.
@CLINNYY_1
5 жыл бұрын
That’s a strange demonstration of Sanchin
@christophergoedecke8071
5 жыл бұрын
Can't help you understand the form unless you want to get specific
@keciatoptopkecia5237
8 жыл бұрын
So the "Yin motion" draw energy inward from opponent in close proximity . What if my opponent does the same thing ,how can I prevent opponent absorb my energy?
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
Internal energy sensitivity is developed in stages. All physical actions influence energy flow. And this flow follows certain principles. These principles were then embedded in the essential kata.The first thing that has to be understood is what is happening with your own flow. Let's take the Yin channels and ask first, if there are any blockages. This can be tested. Next lets remove those blockages beginning with letting go of any unnecessary muscular tensions. It's a bit more than this simple answer, but it's a start. If you understand what stances activate what channels, you will then select the appropriate action. So to answer your question directly, the one who has the strongest draw will have an edge. To prevent having your energy taken you will have to 'seal' the Yin channel. This can be done a few ways; physically, one way is by tightening the inside of the leg, mentally, with advanced practices- giving the mind direct control over the channels. (not many can do this without training.) This is an exciting subject and a complex one, particularly if you've never worked with internal energy before.
@keciatoptopkecia5237
8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the response. one more question : Is there any kata that uses an arm motion insead of a leg motion (like sanchin) to absorb energy ?
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
I will be writing more extensively about this subject. The essential kata are all showing proper energy manipulation techniques. But this has become mostly a lost art within an art. It's not that the legs take in energy and the arms do not. The body is an open-ended energy system, receiving and sending energy in a tide-like fashion. Either of those attributes can be magnified by certain physical actions. If you are ever in New Jersey, I could show you what I am talking about. It's an art, with many layers worth practicing. What is your martial background?
@keciatoptopkecia5237
8 жыл бұрын
I have been doing Wado Ryu for 15 years and my sensei not long ago started talking about the sanchin and how our bio-energetic field can be manipulated by our thoughts, I'd like a deeper knowledge of this subject. (unfortunately I live in Italy)
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
My teacher was also interested in the mental side. However, he never addressed the specific movement sequence itself; why the moves were specifically chosen. I'll have to check out your Wado ryu sanchin. We have yin and yang variations, tension and no tension versions. This subject is slowly gaining more interest. Are all your fellow students doing energy work?
@ShawnMartin31
8 жыл бұрын
It's our Uechi bread n' butter. We Uechi guys breathe a lil different, you'll hear us do this tiny "sssST" when we empty the breath on the shime. We only take a half breath in and keep our diaphragm 1/2 full, with the lungs depressed because we squeeze the chest in, so we dont break ribs if we don't have our chest puffed up when hit. We also try to keep our guts squeezed inward... if you squeeze outward too much while being punched: you'll get a hemorrhoid. Oh the real terrible secret of sanchin is... you might break your "O ring" ...if you practice with too much ego and machismo and take more than you can handle. No really... it's a thing that happens to EVERY style of sanchin. So... be mindful of your anus.
@christophergoedecke8071
8 жыл бұрын
We don't see much comparative analysis among the many sanchin variations in existence today. It would be a good project. For example, Uechi sanchin is a yin variant, while goju is a yang variant. We also have the 'no tension' schools. In terms of breathing, depending upon what you are trying to accomplish, diaphragmatic action, mouth, tongue, jaw posiition etc, all effect chi channel flow. Noy surprisingly, different structural formulas can accomplish the same ends. The question to ask is what is each person trying to accomplish with a move or sequence, because the action can be tested. I recall back in the early 1970's being told the same thing about the anal sphincter. One must be careful performing the Hard versions of sanchin. Too much pressure or incorrect pressure is damaging. Needless to say, sanchin is one of the best contributions by the Chinese and Okinawans and one of the essential forms. You and I are lucky to have them in our systems. Yours, Hayashi
@shawnmartin1289
8 жыл бұрын
It would be neat to do a real analytical comparison with all the known forms of sanchin for sure! I'd love to hear what the Iron-shirt Qi-gong guys do. There are also good similarities between sanchin and gymnastic "hollowing" of the core.
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