@@welcome2myworld1.o89 there is tons of good engine sound mods.
@TheOriginalPhatMan
4 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Savimbi Mods help a lot.
@TackleTheDog
4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if that happened, but im not sure is Scania or Volvo would like it if their trucks in the game overheated. Might send a bad message
@thesis4349
4 жыл бұрын
Even if there are, this trucks are made for this kind of heavy cargo.
@DennyFelisianus
4 жыл бұрын
With the results of this test, I understand more. If the convoy is required to use a 6 speed gerabox because it is faster in accelerating. During this time always use 14 speed gear box ..
@Kuronekaux
4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't show you that the Allison has split gears on gear one and two
@DeeKay773
4 жыл бұрын
But when you're with light cargo and straight road, in manual mode, you can skip through gears and it will save you time shifting, effectively having 6-speed box. Same as in real life.
@kennedy796
3 жыл бұрын
If you were shifting the gears manually, the 14 speed would be better as in real life, there is no reason you cant just shift through the pattern and only split the last gear
@phillipreif4053
3 жыл бұрын
Doubles Heavy Cargo Trailer?
@reaper8f
Ай бұрын
Where is this uphill from?
@kacaktv
4 жыл бұрын
6 speed is better for 0-100 14 speed is better for max speed
@M._.l._.R._.A
4 жыл бұрын
6 speed are trash, period.
@panickyk2300
4 жыл бұрын
@@M._.l._.R._.A combine 6 speed with a 600hp engine and you're pretty much good to go for cargoes up to 40t,
@romppa6649
4 жыл бұрын
6 speed because of manual 👌
@panickyk2300
4 жыл бұрын
@@romppa6649 I changed my Actros's gearbox to a 16 speed R since before that I had the 6 speed, the engine is a 598 hp and with the 6 speed it went up to 148 km/h, with the 16 speed it only goes up to 118 km/h, I immediately switched back to 6 speed since it also reached 100 km/h faster
@zaiton6236
4 жыл бұрын
6 speed better for normal cargo (realife) 16-18 speed better to heavy cargo 60-130+ ton (realife) I-shift For all cargo
@pqhkr2002
4 жыл бұрын
Do an engine brake down hill test would be interesting too.
@iso_master
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think over rev??
@madmax2069
4 жыл бұрын
@@iso_master no, mainly due to either exhaust brake or Jake brake, or retarder would keep it from happening.
@paul1e
4 жыл бұрын
@@madmax2069 scania has only exhaust brake (flap in exhaust manifold) but volvo had or has some kind of jake brake thing in some models at least
@totzinfo
4 жыл бұрын
but you must set to engine brake option
@wrenchtheroo6557
3 жыл бұрын
@@paul1e volvo had the same jake brake concept except it did 2 strokes before opening the exhaust valve compared to the 1 stroke of a traditional jake, if i remember correctly it made them quieter
@Neo587
3 жыл бұрын
LOL I was thinking "oh, there is a bug with the two front wheels, they're not moving anymore", then I realised there was a small gap between the road and the wheels and that they were not even touching the ground anymore because of the weight pulling hard on the tractor. Damn that was intense.
@AltijdMatthijs
4 жыл бұрын
Light wheigt cargo 6 speed Heavy cargo 14 speed
@cutliss
4 жыл бұрын
Why is 14 speed better for heavy cargo?
@AltijdMatthijs
4 жыл бұрын
Because the truck accelerates faster then
@naufalkusumah2192
4 жыл бұрын
@@cutliss because 14 speed gives the truck more wheel torque which is necessary for heavy hauling
@alessvadlenka1474
4 жыл бұрын
For light cargo there is 12° gearbox
@dazzershell
4 жыл бұрын
Why not to make universal solution. First speed with tractor gear ratio, for such a heavy climb, and the rest 5 for flat terrain, sufficient in most cases.
@BN4
4 жыл бұрын
I think the uphill test doesn't show much (especially in the first test) because the two trucks didn't have the same speed at the bottom of the climb. Maybe you should set the cruise control to 50 km/h and see which one loses the most speed at the end.
@IceRaged
4 жыл бұрын
Had alot of enjoyment testing this, thank you so much for having me! There was expectations to each haul, but we didnt know how much different but now we now 😃 Great work with all the effects and testing as well really well put together ❤
@GhalkeLawl
2 жыл бұрын
Ya should have an shout-out with an Heartpin ;P but i only think that cuz i define it cute that ya left such an comment behind. Myes. (runs off)
@MrPomomies
3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually quite surprised that the Allison is faster on acceleration on even ground. But then again, As you were on Automatic you cant skip gears (Thuogh I'm not sure can you skip gears on modern trucks) I drive a little bit older 36 ton dump truck, with only 460hp (Dont remember torque) And my usual shift patterns are Empty: 3high-5low-7low-8low-8high. In ETS terms it would be 6-9-13-15-16 Loaded: 2high-4low-5high-6high-7low-7high-8low-8high In ETS terms 4-7-10-12-13-14-15-16 Unless really slow speed is needed or terrain is sketchy.
@JaidenJimenez86
2 жыл бұрын
Gearbox behaviour in ETS isn't that good, but yes, autos can skip gears... They do it badly and this is why most drivers hate them. Allison is faster on level ground because although it's weaker in a general sense, there's no loss of momentum in the gear changes. This is why the dual clutch ishift system is so good.
@690_5
2 жыл бұрын
Our Auto Volvo apparently skips gears, however I haven't driven it, only our Manual Kenworths and the manual Volvo. It's still weird to think it's just an automatic manual.
@djm_7397
2 жыл бұрын
I play ATS, and I drive a KW W900 with an Eaton super 18, and my shift patterns are very similar.
@Krashulka
2 жыл бұрын
@@djm_7397 Same for me with the Eaton 18 speed.
@Krashulka
2 жыл бұрын
Lol at the 6speed auto trying to pull 122 tonne uphill ! 😆
@JopaxxOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
Well the 14 speed is made for hauling heavy loads. Not for anything else.
@klemendebevec8777
4 жыл бұрын
Why do you think that, all trucks i've driven had 16 gears, 1-8 and the halfs, makes it 16... talking about MB actross mp3 450hp, mp4 480hp and Man TGX 480. In USA all big rigs, ment to drive on snow have 13 or more gears, anything less is a joke.
@Joni-bz8nj
4 жыл бұрын
Jopaxx thats bullshit m8
@JopaxxOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
@@Joni-bz8nj no its not. The more Gears you have the more options you have, to pull a load up a hill in the perfect gear where the engine has the most power
@Joni-bz8nj
4 жыл бұрын
@@JopaxxOfficial yea no shit sherlock
@konradjohannesen9723
4 жыл бұрын
Well the 14 speed is made with 3 settings eco normal and power mode and hes using normal mode in this video if he did it in power mod the 14 speed would be faster
@timmytubede
4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Allison gearbox come with a torque converter? That should permit for higher rpm at low speed by allowing the engine to run faster than the drivetrain. I have a feeling that this behaviour is not 100% realistically implemented in ETS2. I have driven a truck with 6 speed + torque converter in real life and from that experience I would say the torque converter can make up for missing crawler gears/low range in tricky uphill situations
@jakeslay9180
4 жыл бұрын
Even with a torque converter on a 6 speed and you were to lock or unlock it in any given gear it would still be very hard to get up a hill with 40 tons compared to a transmission that has Hi Lo and a Splitter, because it’s either slipping or the gear is too tall. The Auto transmission will be good for different applications, but when you are hauling some weight, you’ll always have more control with your Manual/Standard Transmission.
@mlippert
4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeslay9180 Also the torque converter produces a lot of heat with a big engine drivetrain speed difference.
@owenater0780
4 жыл бұрын
fuck a 6 speed, 18 speed eaton or nothing
@faisalkamran07
4 жыл бұрын
@@mlippert I don't really thinks so.... leave the lockup on auto and you won't get the overheat issue, unless flow of oil gets abnormal
@thepreserver83
4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeslay9180 when you are hauling some weight, you’ll always have more control with your Manual/Standard Transmission - ONLY ON WINTER TIME maybe can be good, and offroad situations like forest and wet conditions. Otherwise - automatic transmission is best.
@jarnailsingh9415
4 жыл бұрын
Using trucks with more gears in automatic mode is useless. Take manual control and 14 speed will destroy 6 speed.
@maxpayne892
4 жыл бұрын
so true
@milesromanus7041
4 жыл бұрын
How would a manual transmission with 14 speeds even look
@diljith.cjithu8703
4 жыл бұрын
@@milesromanus7041 if on the game just double or triple tap the gear shifting switch(usually shift or control button)... In real life most trucks are manual with 12+2, 14 ,16 and even 18 gears... Its hard to explain through text, basically a stick shift with switches and more direction to move around.. there are somany videos available
@MrKorn666korn
4 жыл бұрын
@@milesromanus7041 on here search for 18 speed eaton. That's kinda how it works but with less gears
@stefanstefan2105
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@killthebums
4 жыл бұрын
With a light load it's easier and faster to just skip gears with the 14 speed as you only need them with a heavy load
@gd_media
4 жыл бұрын
I’m not even into trucks but I still watched the whole video. Thanks KZitem algorithm. I still knew that the 14speed would outperform on the uphill test. :D
@18birko1
4 жыл бұрын
9:12 Well, well😅
@Yasteni
4 жыл бұрын
i understand why Turkish use 6 speed in automatic now, thank's !
@alig.20
4 жыл бұрын
I use it in manual since it makes you gain a lil bit more acceleration control.
@Erazerek
4 жыл бұрын
Its also easier with H-shifter to use 6 vs 12 or 14
@sebastianketnouvong-ung4502
4 жыл бұрын
14 is better for heavy haul
@wino0000006
4 жыл бұрын
And 6 speed Allison have no torque loss gap during gear shifting.
@RyanBurnsRed
4 жыл бұрын
@@Erazerek that's the main reason why I use the 6 speed. I don't have one of those fancy $200 shifters that have the switches for 12+ speed trans
@arseniomakhele7317
Жыл бұрын
6 speed is for busses and not trucks*
@DMCarReviews
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't like the 6 speed. It's not bad if you have no load, but if you have at least some load, the 12-18 speeds are ideal. You also get that nice downshift at wide open throttle once going at speed, and it gives a nice push. When climbing up ramps, it always keeps the truck in the powerband. The 6 speed is very bad for those purposes, and the driving dynamics on the highway.
@MG041987
9 ай бұрын
I drive with 8 speed manual gearbox and its nice to shift… 6 speed is a shit. Yes
@angelicdragon9823
2 жыл бұрын
I can just Imagine the smells off the last test as clutches burn
@scaniverz1
4 жыл бұрын
14 speed more flexible high start ability & high top speed
@satriawibisono3270
4 жыл бұрын
Mantap mbah
@hakimHAKIM-uc7kq
4 жыл бұрын
It allows you to reach maximum torque more quickly which imroves acceleration and climbing, but because of its shorter ratios it has a much slower top speed than a 6 speed, but why would you look for top speed in a big truck anyway??
@scaniverz1
4 жыл бұрын
@@hakimHAKIM-uc7kq high top speed means the truck is good for cruising, high speed with lower engine rev
@HelluvaAnt
4 жыл бұрын
that shifting wasn't cool
@marcausn
2 жыл бұрын
test is completely done wrong: in a gearbox with splitted gears as the 14 speed is, you don't shift through every gear (what would be half a gear in fact). at older trucks, you had a lever or button on the shifter, if you wanted to use the splitted gears. you used them only if your truck struggled. in your test, you shift the 14speed through every (half) gear, what is absolutely unnecessary... if you shifted with the wheel, it is no problem to shift 2 or 3 times "in one go" before the truck takes on gas (did that in the simulator, too, to get a somehow realistic driving experience)... try it with this next time. the least thing you should do, is using the ingame autoshift... it is horrible.
@almalynzafe8443
4 жыл бұрын
New Scania(S) VS Old Scania(R)
@ds_lyst05
3 жыл бұрын
R 2016 vs R 2009*
@rommysoeli
4 жыл бұрын
I hope you could test the 14 speed in manual, I mean in manual mode you could keep the 14 speed transmission closer to the engine peak power for much longer.
@MrJonas7
3 жыл бұрын
@Kondzikqqq Or you can switch the gearbox into performance mode... Which it wasn't in in the video.
@thejuicyorange8526
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, he loose time waiting for the transmission to check which gear is next Manual mode is faster
@wojo6135
8 ай бұрын
@@MrJonas7How to do it?
@MrJonas7
8 ай бұрын
@@wojo6135 It's in the game settings :)
@wojo6135
8 ай бұрын
@@MrJonas7 Thanks for answer :) it's working only for manual transmissions or automatic too, like Alisson 4500?
@Redbikemaster
2 жыл бұрын
More speeds = more efficient engine usage I've driven a 9 speed and it just couldn't handle hills like my current 13 speed can, even with the exact same engine and engine power level in both. BTW I'm a truck driver IRL lol. I'm talking real world.
@MrGeati6783
4 жыл бұрын
61 tons would kill the Allison gearbox uphill after a few minutes...overheating has to be added to ETS.
@kaparone21
3 жыл бұрын
we are talking about 750 hp not 260 hp, in real life a truck with 400 hp 14 gear can pull 70 ton without overheating so that doesn't make much sense and by the way, before u asking, i work with a mercedes actros 440 hp 16 manual gears 6x4, if u say 122 ton now i believe u
@MrGeati6783
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaparone21 the 6 speed allison gearbox is not built for climbing or fuel efficieny, it does not even have a clutch. The ATF oil in an automatic transmission heats up, when the torque converter can't close between gears or especially on first gear. Its built for fast and seemless shifting in citys with smaller trucks.
@kaparone21
3 жыл бұрын
You are right, i did'n't know the name of the transmission i thought that u're talking about de 14 gear manual sorry
@dufonrafal
4 жыл бұрын
You need to adjust the game setting so the gearbox will shift at max rev and not 1500rpm
@RS81556
4 жыл бұрын
There is no need for a diesel engine to hit max rpm, they produce max torque at medium revs not at high revs
@dufonrafal
4 жыл бұрын
@@RS81556 it's power that matters, not torque... Having a lot of low end torque means that this engine produces 500hp at 1000rpm. But the 730hp are produced at 1900rpm. By up-shifting at 1500rpm you never even reach 700hp.
@RS81556
4 жыл бұрын
@@dufonrafal no no, since diesel engine works on compression to create power rather than a spark, due to the high compression in the cylinder the materials are in constant high stress levels, if you rev it up then they experience very high stress levelss.. And diesel burns slowly as compared to petrol so yeah
@dufonrafal
4 жыл бұрын
@@RS81556 I know that, so what? The maximum power still is at 1900rpm on this engine, not 1500rpm. I don't know of any truck driver that upshift at 1500rpm with such a heavy load.
@megimargareth4015
4 жыл бұрын
@@dufonrafal dude Even in race cars torque drop at most setting is halfway near the top, usually 1-2k rpm gaps You haul heavy loads, power aint means, you need torque When you hits redline, you use more fuel (if you turn on the fuel consumption) and risk of overheating (in real life) for basically slight to none advantages If its power matters, why trucks have thousands of torque ?
@w4hid
2 жыл бұрын
14 Speed Transmission would be faster in manual transmission mode.
@petru5286
4 жыл бұрын
If You had a shifter for the 6 speed it would be another story
@davide30541
2 жыл бұрын
the allisons im ATS and ETS behave so diferently its amazing they are both SCS games. its like the allison in ETS locks up the converter completely amd bogs the engine down...
@ЕвгенийМищенко-н7ф
4 жыл бұрын
RUS В этом видео чётко видно враньё. На 14 ступенчатой коробке передач, намеренно не давали газ. Это видно по видео. На 6 ступенчатой коробке передач хорошо перевозить малотоннажные грузы, чем тяжолые. 14 ступенчатая коробка мощьнее, чем 6 ступенчатая коробка. ENG This video clearly shows lies. On a 14-speed gearbox, intentionally did not give gas. This is visible in the video. On a 6-speed gearbox, it is good to carry light tonnage than heavy ones. A 14-speed gearbox is more powerful than a 6-speed gearbox.
@DMCarReviews
4 жыл бұрын
Ну ее просто не выкручивали как надо. Можно идти через передачу, и все будет нормально.
@haschid
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the torque converter simulation in both ATS and ETS2 is absent. They are simulated like a softer clutch, and the lockup happens on every shift. I had to mod the physics.sii file to simulate a proper torque converter, but by doing so, the torque converter no longer locks. It is forever in hydraulic coupling only. It's way more pleasurable to drive, but the fuel consumption increases a lot.
@ConsiderateRider
4 жыл бұрын
Fuel consumption is also interesting for the decision making. More gears allow you to drive the engine at a very efficient RPM at any speed(even some cars with automatic transmission have up to 9 gears). However, I expect that even the 6speed allows efficient driving for the speeds in typical scenarios (highway and country roads).
@nikostalk5730
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. The less number of gears you have - the less flexibility for everything you do have. Also, the author not showed a D4-start method, or switch UP to 3 gears in one moment. No side-by-side video, so, well, overrev could produce better results for 14-gear box. Very shady video, saying this as a usual car-driver.
@ndcentral8194
2 жыл бұрын
@@nikostalk5730 It's not that it's shady, it's that ETS doesn't have transmissions that work 100% true to life. They're oversimplified for the sake of keyboard players.
@user-pq4by2rq9y
8 ай бұрын
in ETS2 the Allison does burn quite a bit of fuel on uphills, even if it has decent performance on flats.
@TheNismo777
4 жыл бұрын
Damn thats impressive! So much work in this!
@Alexander_701
4 жыл бұрын
3:31 How can you transport two locomotives?
@Alexander_701
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, why?
@HudsonMesquita.
4 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_701 because he already written in the video (sec 3:29)
@Alexander_701
4 жыл бұрын
@@HudsonMesquita. i didn't see that thanks
@carzonebr
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/lp58yZV-kqxnaXY
@duplessis2006
4 жыл бұрын
rather meet the bridge builders...244 tons yeesh
@dezpotizmOFheaven
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed myself that my truck became slower and consumed more fuel when getting from 6 to 12 speed. ut shouldn't shorter gear ratios help it accelerating faster with more load?
@ndcentral8194
2 жыл бұрын
the thing is that the higher gears are longer, which means it takes more power for the engine to turn the gears because there's also less torque reduction. Final Drive has a lot to do with it, your 1st gear may be much shorter, say like 14.40, but your final drive gear will probably be something like 3.25 or 3.37.
@Joaofigas1
4 жыл бұрын
Guys remember the 6 gearbox speed in ets 2 isnt like the real life ones , as you can see in the 6 allison speed gearbox under the specs got something saying x2.40 binary , like SCS said one it was maded on purpose to those who dont have controller/ steering wheel , allowing to be more easy to play with keyboard , for myself i always stay stick with 16 gears !
@Drache191200
4 жыл бұрын
I also stick with more gears, gives me more Range
@ZeldaACFan17
4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense to have more gears in a big truck anyway because you need to keep the engine revs in the right spots to haul anything (torque/power band)
@Joaofigas1
4 жыл бұрын
@@ZeldaACFan17 true
@walternyakwaka5481
4 жыл бұрын
Does a a 6 speed provide sufficient torque multiplication. How does it manage to haul cargo that size when previous generations needed at least 12 speeds
@Joaofigas1
4 жыл бұрын
@@walternyakwaka5481 ingame the 6 speed was alterated to those who play with keyboard so it doesnt represent the 6 speed of real life , the real ones are designed for city and for carry around 10 to 15 tons max , not what u see in this video , players use them for speed but only works well with cargos around 1 to 15 tons
@user-bd1xq1hc2x
4 жыл бұрын
Which dlc is This map???
@SparrowRz
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome test, thats is the way to show what we need in rpm multiplier about power or torque(depending of gear ratio) its a shame that scs didnt improve inertia, grip and traction to realistic feeling yet, but i like think they are working on that
@sirius4k
4 жыл бұрын
Now go back and pull the other truck up.
@siphoernest2278
3 жыл бұрын
So that's why freightliner has an advantage uphill ..cos of 18 speed gearbox
@icecreaminc8013
3 жыл бұрын
eaton fuller makes 18 speed gearboxes for any truck you want. in general EF 13's are for normal trucking and 18's are for heavy. 18's can do normal stuff but waste fuel, even with gear skipping (driving like its a 13 where you skip the splits one through four, sometimes 5 and 6 as well).
@jankunst7619
4 жыл бұрын
14 gears are much better
@the_vehicle_spotter
2 жыл бұрын
So in conclusion The 6 speed is for acceleration and speed and the 14 speed is for pulling Nice info man👍
@zanix3226
2 жыл бұрын
the 6 speed would've been better if it was manual
@mirkonurmela8993
3 жыл бұрын
you shoud've compared the fuel consupmtion on long trips,
@lld4ae
29 күн бұрын
It is just the wrong Allison automatic transmission model. If they used a 7-gear Allison, the first crawler gear would be at a maximum speed of 5 kph. But it is right to say that “normal gearboxes” have an advantage in fuel savings, while full automatics (Allisons) can accelerate faster.
@GodzUnit01
4 жыл бұрын
9:42 - 9:53 did the front wheels come off the ground? all haul, no stall + no steering? 😂
@TheNismo777
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, thats torque at its best :D
@OfficialUSKRprogram
4 жыл бұрын
Steering is for loooooosers
@ganggenius
4 жыл бұрын
GodzUnit01 with 8x4 you can still steer with your 2nd axle
@darkwolfcz434
4 жыл бұрын
@@ganggenius i wonder if the second axle was made for this excact reason
@fabygiusty3164
4 жыл бұрын
@@darkwolfcz434 no, tration on it to have more grip in uphills and steering for make tighter turns ;)
@Mr.ElPelonLeoos
2 жыл бұрын
Playstation needs to add to there system & Software American Truck Simulator! Since there's already truck driver, Will there be double trailer 18 wheelers? I'm think a little about american truck simulator something similar! We'd love tunable - there should be customizable 18 wheelers! Wish the player could load & un load the cargo! & customize garage & truck & trailers & better in game reality!
@AJsBusVideos
4 жыл бұрын
Try doing a version with the Adaptive auto transmission
@tino_moser_999
2 жыл бұрын
Stupid... drive in sequential instead of automatic - you can have a way higher RPM in sequential and thus a better acceleration. I like to keep my truck at around 15-20k RPM
@derlurje1348
4 жыл бұрын
Well tbh during my early day at ets2 I usually double shift to go faster
@bearthunder7831
4 жыл бұрын
I still do that lol
@derlurje1348
4 жыл бұрын
@@bearthunder7831 and still to this day ,double shft
@unstop2910
4 жыл бұрын
Well I tripple shift sometimes
@Minist4R95
2 жыл бұрын
Never heard about these gearboxes in european trucks,new ones are mostly automatic .Man tga i drive is 8 speed manual gearbox with how we call it halfs. Its every gear with high and low in total it is 16 speeds
@KuntalGhosh
4 жыл бұрын
If this game had proper physics.. the torque converter or clutch would have been on fire right now🤣
@turboflush
3 жыл бұрын
Was always curious.. Still not much consequence in game to using wrong engine, trans, tires, axles.. Etcc Would love to see more use of the scales requiring proper axle counts. I remember a game years ago used to penalize you if you picked the wrong load.
@나니내네
2 жыл бұрын
How did you play Double Heavy Cargo? 122ton??????
@TGMStefa
2 жыл бұрын
We used save editing method to modify cargo weight
@valferdinandmonissabiano8641
3 жыл бұрын
The frequent shifting from the 14 speed made the truck lose some time. Imagine if the 14 speed has seamless shifts then it would outperform the 6 speed.
@SirAser.F__k.you.Google
2 жыл бұрын
But think about it if it was the 12 gearbox instead of 14..?!
@ruben11450
2 жыл бұрын
in real life you'll just skip gears, i do it all the time on ets, from 1 to 3 to 5 to 7, only when i want a more defined gear i use the between (midle gear, the 2,4,6,8) the 12 ofc for max speed.
@joy_0109
Жыл бұрын
True, the 14 speed is much better at keeping the engine at optimal torque, if only the shifts were seamless
@UncalBertExcretes
4 жыл бұрын
Allison gearboxes are for buses and bin lorrys.... Totally pointless in this game
@JesseEder
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Now, of course, the 14 speed can pull heavy cargo because it's designed to do that the 6 speed doesn't have C1 so that's why it's useless at pulling heavy cargo plus the 14 speed has more great although the 14 speed is a bit slower at accelerating so yeah.
@Marcmec
4 жыл бұрын
Its beacouse THE Allison is limited tog 2200 nm thats wy in a Long climd THE 730 can use all its 3500 nm in THE higher gears om THE opticruise its also limited in low gears otherwise it Will distroy THE axels and differential .so if this would be done with a 480 then it would be more acurate to compare gearboxes.i Have a 470 with Allison cearbox in reallife..
@Pitcon
3 жыл бұрын
Should try this while manualy shifting. Not that automatic bullcrap
@riccardoconte7298
4 жыл бұрын
This game can not select te correct gear for every moment... I isn't so realistic...
@GB_Junge
4 жыл бұрын
I think they shift Manual
@xtremegamer2218
4 жыл бұрын
@@GB_Junge No, it was automatic.
@GB_Junge
4 жыл бұрын
@@xtremegamer2218 how do you know?
@xtremegamer2218
4 жыл бұрын
@@GB_Junge Where it says the gear they were in, it has A in front of the number, indicating that they were in automatic. For example, A14 .If they were in manual, it would either say D or just the gear they're in. For example D14, or just 14
@GB_Junge
4 жыл бұрын
@@xtremegamer2218 ok
@abhisheksavant4307
3 жыл бұрын
I actually preffered the Zf's compared to the others.
@Tokyu-oj8oz
8 ай бұрын
Wait, judging from the shifting speed... 6 speed truck transmissions are hydraulic tourqe converter gearboxes just like in buses?
@kelvincarvalho2459
7 ай бұрын
exactly they are Hydramatic transmissions with torque converter
@lawerancelanham
4 жыл бұрын
That last one pulled the front wheels going up that hill.
@GY9944
4 жыл бұрын
Soo is that why those heavy haul trucks in 8x4 configuration have 2 sets steering wheels ? Not only it helps in maneuverability but also in the case of front-most wheel gets lifted off the asphalt such as in this video, it can still steer itself with 2nd row wheels ?
@dbclass4075
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, though not as responsive with both steerable wheels on the ground.
@tunizieca9373
4 жыл бұрын
750hp new Volvo VS 750hp old Volvo! :)
@DranweRagetotem
4 жыл бұрын
Have not seen the New volvo yet. Well i have, though that was on the news,. but not on ets.
@dbclass4075
7 ай бұрын
@@DranweRagetotemHe might be referring to FH vs. FH Classic.
@Marcmec
4 жыл бұрын
THE Allison gearbox is limited tog 2200 nm so the 730 is redused from 3500. i have a 470 scania r series with Allison it gives 2200 nm so it does not need tog be redused and it take of like No other truck i Have driven. It easely out run 650 HP trucks with opticruise same load.
@abenamusic2948
4 жыл бұрын
Good work 14 speed uphill 👍
@BerraLJ
4 жыл бұрын
Would not like to haul those 122 tons west trough Karlstad in Sweden over to Norway, the last hill there tend to bring me down to 40ish from 90 and that with like 15-25 tons.
@fadhlifizz94
4 жыл бұрын
where the location of uphill?
@aggelosmai7254
2 жыл бұрын
Which mod are u using for 122 t can u answer please ty
@saulogueds
3 жыл бұрын
I need to congratulate you guys for that test. Cheers!
@jhonathanq8983
4 жыл бұрын
el que hizo este video nunca ha manejado un semitrailer cargado
@rockybalbao5004
4 жыл бұрын
Diesel engines have high power at low engine rpm. High RPM = less power that's why trucks have so many gears. This game is unrealistic.
@nicoleibundgut534
4 жыл бұрын
Diesel Engines do have high torque power comes with rpm on all combustion engines. But as you named it in some way the power curve in an truck engine is very narrow so you need good gearing to maintain the power in any situation.
@rockybalbao5004
4 жыл бұрын
@@nicoleibundgut534 That's right The infinite number of gears is the best. That's why CVT gearboxes are designed - in theory you always have "best gear" In practice, less power and high failure rate.
@EsmeraldaAguiar
2 жыл бұрын
Parabéns pelo seu trabalho. Vim pela divulgação da Alessandra do Canal Família Simples. Tmj 👍
@tatrman813
2 жыл бұрын
There is problem in gearbox software. 14 speed gearbox is shisfting up in "economy mod" at 1500 rpm. 6 speed gearbox allows to go to 2000 rpm and at this rpm the engine has higher power. You should try manual mod of 14 speed and go to the limiter. I think, we could see different results.
@TriwinGR
2 жыл бұрын
i have g920+shifter and i use on my scania r770s 6 speed transmission tried 12+2 but i couldnt play because i dont know how to change to high gears
@TGMStefa
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, in Controls settings there is option to select which gearbox u can use for shifting
@Turgineer
4 жыл бұрын
6 Speed: Speed boi 14 Speed: The simulation boi
@caneru19
4 жыл бұрын
Sa
@caneru19
4 жыл бұрын
Her yerde sen varsın
@Turgineer
4 жыл бұрын
@@caneru19 Technopat 😁
@GeisemoOUTATIME
3 жыл бұрын
Ive got a scania r 2009 with a 730 hp engine and the 6 speed gearbox..well uh without cargo it goes 0-100 in 9,6 secs and with cargo maybe 19,7? Idk oh and it has a 6/4 chassis
@tommeiner9983
3 жыл бұрын
Change it to a 14 speed immediately...
@karma4859
4 жыл бұрын
What even is this. 14 speed is definitely more for heavy stuff. Otherwise normal hauling just use a 12 speed or 12+2 speed with those two extra forward gears C1 and C2 for slow moving offs.
@imamsyaifuddin603
3 жыл бұрын
u should try to drive real 14speed scania. if u not carry heavy load. u can start in 3. skip from 4 - 6 , 6 - 8 ( skipping gear ) . if it a rigid truck have a 6 speed is better
@imamsyaifuddin603
3 жыл бұрын
14 speed is alottt alot better !
@JachuJustyDriver
4 жыл бұрын
I'm using Allison, because I usually haul the lightest trailer possible ;p
@jackdyer8405
3 жыл бұрын
What’s the game called?
@marcosrafaelfleitascohene8788
3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdyer8405 American Truck simulator
@agentscott96
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcosrafaelfleitascohene8788 European truck sim 2
@randomwatermelon1
3 жыл бұрын
@@agentscott96 ite just Euro btw
@agentscott96
3 жыл бұрын
@@randomwatermelon1 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@Foxic_Plus
2 жыл бұрын
Use Manual 😉
@PeterESSA
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! This was really interesting!!
@ОлегЛогинов-ф7д
4 жыл бұрын
Ну в реалии бы на понижающие передачи перешёл и в гору спокойно заехал бы.
@SoggyToast506
4 жыл бұрын
14 speed gearboxes are designed for heavier cargo, that’s also another reason why it takes a while for it to get up to speed then the 6 speed gearbox, the 6 speed only has 6 gears while the 14 speed has 14 gears, with lighter cargo the 6 speed can easily get up to speed very quickly because it has less gears, to go through but with heavier cargo the 6 speed is very slow and can’t really handle it as much as the 14 speed can. Because the 14 speed kicks a bit more power to the engine then the 6 speed. I may be wrong to some extent and correct to some extent.
@mlippert
4 жыл бұрын
I think the main Problem is that the games automatic transmission doesn't skip gears like a real person would. (With light load you would maybe start in 3rd gear, then go 5-7-9-11-13-14) The engine has a useable RPM-Range, and an optimal power RPM. With 14 gears you are more likely to find a gear that is close to that optimal RPM at a given speed.
@hyundaigrandi1098
2 жыл бұрын
Lol the front wheels dont touch the road because the truck is pulling si hard it lifted them, good video! 9:40 but one question, those flashing lights in the rack of the truck is a mod or you can put them normally?
@dbclass4075
7 ай бұрын
Normally, with Special Transport DLC.
@ddreas
3 жыл бұрын
Allison can be just as good as the 14 speeder, but the default final gear ratio is waaaay too small. I've done heavy hauls with it, but changed final drive to a shorter 4.8 instead of defalut 3.91. I like the allision because i have to shift less from the paddles, and engine braking is smoother, but bigger gear gaps make it hard to accelerate uphills. However i've modified it to have 8 gears and the ratios of ZF8HP gearboxes used in cars and now it has the best of both 14 and 6 speed
@PropperNaughtyGeezer
Жыл бұрын
Bigger Gear gaps. The Allison has a hydraulik torque converter. The translation between the 6 gears is again 2.3-1.2 infinitely variable (instead of a split gear) until the converter lockup clutch closes. Of course I don't know if this is simulated in the game. We had similar 4-speed ZF transmissions in the Army 100t tank transporter.
@alfistiful
4 жыл бұрын
Auto shft is rong.. fail test.
@chaoswarriorbr
4 жыл бұрын
This is a bit pointless considering the automatic shifting simulation for the 14 speed manual is all over the place. The game doesn't properly change gears in manual gears, making it bad at accelerating and fuel efficiency. I personally use sequential manual in ETS2 and ATS to properly control the shifting, though a proper H-Shifter with high and low ( or more since tge ATS 18 gears are actually 3 different gearboxes) are even more precise to make it faster and more efficient.
@nickwhite6717
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, 18 speed RR boxes are one gearbox, with 2 auxiliary sections. Older spicers and mack gearboxes are 2, sometimes 3 different and separate boxes. Good day
@chaoswarriorbr
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickwhite6717 Really? I thought they were still making up to 3 like old Petes and such! I'll look into it when I can.
@szymon5295
4 жыл бұрын
Too big engines, in magnum 12-gearbox Is very helpful
@michaelrohrer5165
4 жыл бұрын
Where is the hill?
@madmax2069
4 жыл бұрын
Derp
@polemankassambara5803
2 жыл бұрын
Can't i have the Highway mod or thé motoway mod.
@brutal0486
4 жыл бұрын
Thx bro! We want more videos in this theme/subject!😁
@tvk-9cop
4 жыл бұрын
Automatic transmissions? I usually use manual shifting so I can skip gears. Skipping gears allows you to turn a 12 speed into a 6 speed or a 14 speed into a 7 speed.
@RyoTheTiger
4 жыл бұрын
Automatic also skips gears if they're not needed...
@kylecampbell1444
4 жыл бұрын
@@RyoTheTiger Depending on the programming. Have been in some that dont skip
@fabygiusty3164
4 жыл бұрын
In automatic, you can see that It skips even when It'd be better don't skip
@ivanmandic8437
4 жыл бұрын
I do the same.
@FernandoMedina1995
4 жыл бұрын
Automatic transmission always works on the lower RPM.
@alexbedel6320
3 жыл бұрын
It's weird to me they use those configurations for the gear boxes. I drive semi trucks and have driven an 8, a 10, a 13 and an 18 speed. The 8 is basically a 10 with only 4 high gears, And a 13 is basically an 18 that doesn't split the low gears. Why anyone in their right mind would put a 6 speed on a semi astounds me.
@monete4475
4 жыл бұрын
why are you not using max RPM?
@thetruepen.s
4 жыл бұрын
nitrolelle need torque and torque is from 900 to 1300rpm
@gamtax
4 жыл бұрын
@@thetruepen.s Yeah, but the one that uses Allison shifts at 2,000 RPM but the 14-speed shifts at 1,500 RPM.
@theblitz1687
4 жыл бұрын
@@gamtax it only shift that high when passing to 2nd gear, ita bcs of huge diffetence in gear ratio. u dont wanna be lowerthan 1000rpm when u shift
@theblitz1687
4 жыл бұрын
@@thetruepen.s net force is called HP. torque is only a factor
@gamtax
4 жыл бұрын
@@theblitz1687 Yeah, and you can change the automatic mode. Power mode will shift at the redline. Also, they are adaptive enough to shift and skips a gear or two. Although sometimes it skips too much and bogs me down below 1,000 rpm. But the video seems someone uses power mode and the other one use normal or economic or some sort.
@bigboyud
4 жыл бұрын
if you use manual it will go faster and better hill climb in heavy haul
@ВасиаткаБезпутная
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a clear and understandable test even without translation!
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