I used to call the older models "singing trains" because of their unique and beautiful sound. That is what a real high speed train is supposed to sound like.
@DanielJacksonMusic
3 жыл бұрын
True
@User-3O3
4 жыл бұрын
The sound of a Class 373 passing at speed is one of the greatest sounds I have ever heard in my life. The aesthetics of the 373 are timeless - it looked like something from of the future in 1994 and still does more than 25 years later. While the 374 might be an all-round superior design to its predecessor; it can never live up to its pedigree.
@Yosh-wt4lg
2 жыл бұрын
its not really a superior design. In terms of being a high speed train, the TMST is better than the SIemens (In design, the TMST is both more stable and comfortable during high speeds, and also safer). But the Siemens has more seats and is wider (because it didnt have to follow british loading guage).
@bonkersdude9844
7 жыл бұрын
I love the alstom sound more than the Siemens sound
@mpfy2k
7 жыл бұрын
TAT thetrainguy me to
@marcusalexander3910
7 жыл бұрын
hcæ o
@UberChargedTV
7 жыл бұрын
not just only the sound, also the overall design
@Unix_0
7 жыл бұрын
TGV TMST
@156abellio
7 жыл бұрын
BonkersDude I Agree But The E320 Has More Seats
@darrenmccoy
6 жыл бұрын
The original Eurostar is the most beautiful high speed train ever made.
@xfeb388
4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@ameerali.ouarda
3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie the e320 has set a new level, looks even better than the DB ICE
@travelwithaoi7140
3 жыл бұрын
The ice 3 is the most beautiful and more fast than the Eurostar 373
@westy6214
3 жыл бұрын
@@travelwithaoi7140 ICE 3, 403/406/407 and ICE-T are amazing
@vojta4045
3 жыл бұрын
Tgv reseau is also beautiful
@pineapplejuice7703
6 жыл бұрын
Where I live I can hear the howling of the Eurostar trains when they come off the Medway bridge and through a tunnel about ten mins from the bridge
@hartstukken
3 жыл бұрын
Well lucky you...
@darkfighter3333
3 жыл бұрын
When that E320 passes by, i miss that "woew woew woew" sound of e300 carriages and motorwagens racing by
@michaelk.608
Ай бұрын
Das liegt daran, dass der TGV kürzere Wagons hat!
@sergiokodemo6925
7 жыл бұрын
The Siemens E320 can be a more modern train, but I prefer the Alstom design and sound.
@lausimeyer6558
4 жыл бұрын
Best thing of the old Eurostar trains was third rail (750 V = ) ability. That made those trains really special and made it possible to bring modern trains to britain.
@opicatchu2164
7 жыл бұрын
without hesitation ....Alsthom for the "sound" !!!! but both are beautiful !!!
@Wirralspotter
5 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the 373, always have, always will
@soundseeker63
7 жыл бұрын
I must say the older sets in the new livery look and sound superb!
@esthermckenna3149
4 жыл бұрын
The original livery has the better interior, but the newer one has a nicer livery
@georgecrane8250
7 жыл бұрын
i swear the E320 is just an ice 3 (which is a german high speed train) repainted
@verhulstlucetsab
7 жыл бұрын
yes
@nagierwin5705
7 жыл бұрын
Might of George Crane
@JRSSchattenberg
7 жыл бұрын
ICE 4 you mean?
@Cloudrak
7 жыл бұрын
You mean the ICE Velaro D?
@steffenreimann2854
6 жыл бұрын
iZyxel What are you talking about? All 17 Velaro D running smoothly in Germany and France. And their door windows are rectangular too.
@stephenbinkley
7 жыл бұрын
the old ones looked cooler and sounded better
@noahshoesmith4106
6 жыл бұрын
1:14 put on ur headphones at half way volume its so cool
@lamontcranston4436
7 жыл бұрын
The old Eurostar was so much nicer. More comfy, quieter and more spacious. The new sets and interiors are the product of spreadsheet imagination. Great shame.
@zeisselgaertner3212
6 жыл бұрын
Lamont Cranston That was the decision of Eurostar. Instead of adapting the quiet elegant and classical interior of the German ICE3 they took an Italian design studio to creat something unique :)
@kiyahicks356
5 жыл бұрын
The one that looks bad and makes those horrendous noises
5 жыл бұрын
Seriously !? I was not lucky and by two times, my train got changed by the vintage Eurostar. Travelling in it was so uncomfortable with seats tilted forward, too low. I had cramps all over my legs.
@paulhester1675
4 жыл бұрын
My first and to date only trip on the Eurostar was on the e300 . I thought they were very comfortable and nicely styled inside and out, Hopefully I get to go again and try out the new sets this year.
@treinspotterhoofddorp9841
4 жыл бұрын
It isn’t more spacious... It’s very cramped because of the weird british track gauge. I really hated the trains(partially because of a 45 minutes delay)
@Unix_0
7 жыл бұрын
i like the TGV TMST more then the class 374 really brings up good memories
@unofficialleeds9084
7 жыл бұрын
From an external perspective at speed, the 373's in the new livery (absolutely unbeatable sound) just beats the 374's. However, from a passanger and engineering perspective, the 374 is better. Both are incredible trains though.
@basictransportenthusiast4386
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Holloway I rode in a 374 as a passenger and it was rattly loud and very rock hard and uncomfortable. It vibrates too much and I just did not find it fun to sit in for 5 hours. The 373 is very comfy and is spacious. The 373 rides a lot smoother and doesn’t vibrate. But I would agree that the engineer would like the 374 better
@dansolo6417
4 жыл бұрын
@@basictransportenthusiast4386 I guess the new models are quicker and hold more people which means more money (and less comfort) on each journey which is what they want as it's a business after all and they probably designed better in terms of less defects that bugged the original Eurostars and probably the reason why they reached the end of their lives so soon. aesthetically the Alstrom units looked way better and i loved the sounds it makes when at high speeds!
@pirozcontractor6006
4 жыл бұрын
@@dansolo6417 The sets for the 373 were articulated, hence the much smoother ride. The E320, however, reverted to traditional two bogie carriage sets which might explain the rattly ride. If I say so myself, it comes off as a bit of a backwards design step.
@Yosh-wt4lg
3 жыл бұрын
The new one isn't "better" but cheaper to maintain, the old ones actually are safer in a lot of ways, but were to expensive and required too much maintenance compared to the new ones. And the new ones actually are less energy efficient because they consume 10% more energy than the old ones.
@sherringhamnse2627
5 жыл бұрын
Can't beat the sound of a Class 373/E300 at speed.
@Cactus732
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the sound of the E300, especially that roar of the power cars at low speed.
@trainlover658
6 жыл бұрын
Alstom just has this look and sound that is just-... Iconic. Something the microwave/TV branded train will never live up to...
@fuyo5834
3 жыл бұрын
Lol microwave and TV
@ttvvideos2050
3 жыл бұрын
Shitachi
@westy6214
3 жыл бұрын
Class 800 🤮
@ttvvideos2050
3 жыл бұрын
@@westy6214 fully agree
@breeze1472
7 жыл бұрын
not same not having the ooshing sound as the e300 have.love that
@duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627
7 жыл бұрын
I like the way the track-side has been planted.
@variouxical4897
7 жыл бұрын
I Like the Old eurostar alot more but Why is the new one look like a repainted DB Class 407/406?
@ErebosSan
7 жыл бұрын
Because it is derived from the DB Class 407.
@멘둬
4 жыл бұрын
E300 new paint is very beautiful
@alexoverton152
5 жыл бұрын
I love the new velaro trains, but I love the sound older Alstom trains make with the shorter cars.
@mrlegoboeingfan6749
5 жыл бұрын
I liove the E300 better because I love the classic Hum sound when it passes.
@Trainsforlife89
8 жыл бұрын
Magnifique....or should i say sugoi desu!!! Amazing shots, really professional trainspotting here!! Eurostar have done an amazing job in choosing rolling stock. It's sad to see the majority of 373 trains retiring...
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you (ou should I say efcharisto!). I like 373 series too.
@Trainsforlife89
8 жыл бұрын
ErebosSan Domo arigato, Erebos san! Keep up your amazing trainspotting action! Also looking forward to your next trip to Japan, i am a big fan of the Japanese railways!
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
I return to Japan next November :-)
@Trainsforlife89
8 жыл бұрын
ErebosSan Looking forward to some new videos from Nihon!
@williamradford9631
5 жыл бұрын
Never been on the new Euro Star E320s, they never stop at Ashford. The standard Euro Stars are great, nice seats and on board buffet
@TrainzDr3ver
8 жыл бұрын
Belle compilation! =D Elles sont déja très sale!
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
oui, malheureusement...
@hmasonhicks
5 жыл бұрын
Actually, I prefer the look and the general level of passenger comfort (seats and interior appointments) of the Siemens trainsets, but the ride quality of the old Alstom trainsets is far superior. This is best experienced inside the Eurotunnel itself: There, the Alstom trainsets felt like they were stationary. Inside the blackness of the tunnel, there were few motion queues to indicate the speed that you were traveling. However, the Seimens trainsets have all the motion and track sway that you would experience on normally exposed tracks...
@KoploperMau
8 жыл бұрын
Nice thumbnail. :p I have spent 4 hours along the LGV Nord last month and I didn't see the TMST in new livery, unfortunately. :-( I did see a lot of other Eurostars though. :-)
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
Today, there are only three refurbished TMST. Hard to see one!
@darlinelundy8819
8 жыл бұрын
kopomesmo ce London out😺🚄🚃🚌🚇
@MS46532
6 жыл бұрын
KoploperMau hi
@misahohimeima1981
4 жыл бұрын
ErebosSan It’s sand now that the last TMST set has gone out of service, it’s just the loco’s left now.
@CraftyPeach1
6 жыл бұрын
Am I acvtually one of those people that don't hate on both of them? I like both of them. Likes of e320: Nice aerodynamics, looks modern. Has more seats, and is longer. The right requirements to go to the Netherlands(which it is) A cool sound when it departs. Can go up to 320km/h. Likes of TMST: Really nice sound when it departs. Old, but fast. They look pretty cool. It just has that..thing to it. When you pass it, it goes either wooowooowooo, or vevevee(I cannot reproduce the sounds) Can go up to 300km/h. (Not as fast as the e320s, mind you.) Both of them are good in my opinion.
@williamradford9631
5 жыл бұрын
The standard Euro star looks awesome, with its power cars, Bogies between the coaches, so races around corners like a TGV
@LaChaineTGV
8 жыл бұрын
Superbe vidéo ! avec tous les Eurostar de la famille TMST et les nouveaux ! la seule prise de vue qu'il manque est d'avoir saisi un des trains sur la bif de Vémars en direction du Sud ! mais ça vaut 20/20 !!!
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
Merci Silvio. A 1:48 je suis à Louvres, c'est pas très loin !
@bowlerwildcatGaming1991
4 жыл бұрын
I like the old trains they look and sound awesome
@1cmman
7 жыл бұрын
Great footage and nice angles, wish I could see these trains for real but they don´t exist in my country. I think the Siemens trains are rather noisy when driving off especially compared to the Shinkansen which is far more quiet.
@tankman_tv9332
2 жыл бұрын
Its a siemens, they always flex the noise of their motors lol, even on their diesels (one example the sc-44) the motor is louder than the engine itself
@temslink2000
4 жыл бұрын
The problem i have is the og livery and logo was better imo if thet wanted to update it maybe make the doors a destinct colour to help the blind but secondly the thing i like about the alstom tmst e300/br373 is how it built on the arguably better platform of the tgv (and i still think its better than the siemens units even if the modern designs are fugly) but also the old units were a joint venture between gec in the UK, alstom in france and BN in Belgium providing jobs for the 3 contries in which the units would be serving, selling the job off to siemens seems like a low blow for a europe that is supposed to be working together yet all the orders seem to be going to siemens at the expense of the workers in the countries in which these units serve
@PlanesTrainsFan
5 жыл бұрын
The e300 is my 3 favourite train after the intercity 125 and 225
@chrispaw1
7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the original eurostar trains i think...
@jackpez
5 жыл бұрын
E300 has its own design while the E320 is literally just an Ice Velaro D repainted
@Beefandbird412
5 жыл бұрын
The e300 sounds more better. It is more comfy. The seats don’t even recline at all in the e320.
@LudoTrain
8 жыл бұрын
Belle vidéo ! Niveau esthétique, je préfère l'ancienne version, et non la nouvelle déjà pour son bruit qui fait plus train que l'E320 dont le bruit n'est pas vraiment évocateur, et pour la livrée je prendrais la nouvelle appliquées sur les TMST!
@Metal85King
8 жыл бұрын
j'aime vraiment beaucoup tes vidéos
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
merci !
@elnido9907
6 жыл бұрын
Looks like your not all wrong there about the original Eurostars. They do look and sound more powerful as they pass with that uuuummmmpphhhh in them as each carriage passes and less rattles as they have articulated boggies. They want very reliable however in the winter when snow and ice got into their large side vents. Alstoms AGV used in italy never been used back on home soil yet. Also on youtube there is a video called Abandoned Eurostar that is now scrapped with graffeti on it in the middle of nowhere in France. The video on You Tube is The abandoned eurostar train.
@irelandbloke
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent shots ! 👍
@ErebosSan
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@irelandbloke
2 жыл бұрын
@@ErebosSan You're welcome !
@Ferrouest
7 жыл бұрын
Belle vidéo ! Combien de TMST seront rénovées en e300 ? En tout cas, je trouve que la nouvelle livrée est vraiment magnifique...
@TuukkaVarjoranta
8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with some good shots of both series!
@TrainNutter
7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the e300.
@Klonoa
6 жыл бұрын
TrainNutter me too
@sullybully
6 жыл бұрын
jayr kevin I agree à lot 😄 Not because I'm French 😂😂 But the TMST is nice to see
@hamesjeff
5 жыл бұрын
Same
@hamesjeff
5 жыл бұрын
I like the E300 better because it looks better and I love trains
@johnboscosekyewa269
5 жыл бұрын
Arapalpjl fflkatkx thttttjjj1st
@TheBritishAce
6 жыл бұрын
Love 374 sounds
@Dbiza
4 жыл бұрын
#BR373 WINNER FOR SOUNDS
@Dbiza
4 жыл бұрын
#E300 WOOSH WOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOOWOOWOOWOOWOO WOOSH so relaxing .
@DB_137
6 жыл бұрын
I like how the new Siemens e320s look, but I think I prefer the old class 373 e300s
@TM-fz9je
8 жыл бұрын
Ah de bon souvenirs de Juin dernier lorsque je suis parti en voyage scolaire à Londres. Moi les TMST sont mes rames préférées parce que ce sont des rames qui ressemble à notre TGV français et puis j'aime bien le bruit à grande vitesse. Alors que les e320, le bruit à grande vitesse est plus silencieux mais on dirait le bruit d'un passage de TGV sur une ligne classique.
@darlinelundy8819
8 жыл бұрын
Selon le train 320 cilometre se tro rapide que a TGV 250 cilometre ce tro rapide pour toi!
@darlinelundy8819
8 жыл бұрын
celon letra ta pas le temps perdu il me pe passe pas à la gare
@SouthCoastTrainspotter
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video
@LumaControl
6 жыл бұрын
is the alstom tmst is more TGV/TGV-Thalys like?
@TheDoof0412
3 жыл бұрын
More TGV like
@christianfalke121
4 жыл бұрын
0:35 Typical german ICE sound 😱. At high velocity I really must admit that the fast waggon change of the alstom eurostar sounds very impressive and demonstrates the high-speed ability. The Velaro Eurostar instead sounds a little bit boring but more continous and silent. Maybe good for people which are affected from the track noise.
@jakiymajnun
Жыл бұрын
What's type of 2 coach in the middle that's put between some others coach that has large window it's only there's two coach?
@bugofcake
2 жыл бұрын
Alstom just makes the best trains, simple
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
Class 458? Class 180??
@basictransportenthusiast4386
7 жыл бұрын
The old ones are a lot more comfortable than the new ones. And the new ones are tight so the Alstom ones are way better. And the new ones rattle more than the old ones.
@donaldthomson7682
7 жыл бұрын
I Live near Didcot Oxfordshire, were they are just installing the gantries for electrifying the line . I would like to know why it is that the Eurostar lines gantries are just like street lampposts (unobtrusive ) were as the ones going in at Didcot are great big ugly heavy steel girders. Are us brits being 'RIPPED OFF AGAIN '
@Cloudrak
7 жыл бұрын
Same thing there I live... (Slough)
@jackcassady9786
6 жыл бұрын
i am one of your subscribers because i love trains
@lausimeyer6558
5 жыл бұрын
E320 is the best train, Eurostar could get. German perfection.
@mathieujouan
6 жыл бұрын
Is there no colour chart at Eurostar? Why do the new trains not use the same blue and the same yellow? The new colours look cheap.
@TrainzEchelleN
6 жыл бұрын
MJ i actually like it
@johnbarber6433
6 жыл бұрын
The new design of the Eurostar e320 is fussy and bizarre. There are fewer seats with window views than the previous model e300 ....but I note that the luggage racks are next to windows. Unbelievable! Was this model actually designed by a person or by a robot?
@CoolTransport
3 жыл бұрын
the 373 has the better noise however I like the look of the 374 more
@Hobomayoy
6 жыл бұрын
I miss the whistle made by the older model.
@alwantamalus3709
4 жыл бұрын
Just enjoy the silence before and after train passage.
@owenevans83
8 жыл бұрын
Great footage.
@BobNewbie
8 жыл бұрын
It appears that the class 374's have more pantographs than the 373's, but i was expecting at least 4, seems to be more than that
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
A class 374 trainset has 8 pantographs: one for each current system (25 kVac, 15 kVac, 3 kVdc, 1.5 kVdc), all duplicated for redundancy.
@BobNewbie
8 жыл бұрын
Oh I see, thanks
@chillinbro5423
6 жыл бұрын
Both are good
@hierony5471
5 жыл бұрын
E320 looks much better, but I agree the old ones sound better
@Croco140
Жыл бұрын
What ? This horrible thing looks like an earthworm
@victoriacook734
6 жыл бұрын
New Year of stars are the Eurostar E300 is my favourite train in the world in the whole wide
@denelson83
4 жыл бұрын
Also known as PBL vs PBLA Eurostar sets.
@celovity_747
6 жыл бұрын
E320 is faster
@mementomori1553
4 жыл бұрын
But the E300 sounds better
@멘둬
4 жыл бұрын
But i think e300 is more beautiful than e320
@Bregott07
4 жыл бұрын
By only 20 km/h
@awesometrainsandbuses
4 жыл бұрын
373 by miles
@nico5173
6 жыл бұрын
I really prefere the old one, look more agressive , the new one look like a caterpillar.
@ptitguerrier13
8 жыл бұрын
Très belle vidéo! :)
@railvideography8362
6 жыл бұрын
i will always like the old ones... even though there alot louder and longer and less efficient i like them i think they should run them down the Midland mainline and use the HST for the ECML/WCML they'll always be better than the newer e320
@russouk
5 жыл бұрын
Front of old eurostar looks like homer simpson
@alfiewhittaker3763
7 жыл бұрын
RIP eurostar classic thumbsdown for e320
@ischbinsnur
7 жыл бұрын
For any valid reasons or fanboyism?
@fariasttiago
7 жыл бұрын
ischbinsnur because the older train had Parisian style and was simply better and chic and outside it had a much better noise from the wind
@alfiewhittaker3763
7 жыл бұрын
the sound as they go by is better
@lukasdell134
7 жыл бұрын
Tiago Farias you don’t buy a train just because ist sounds better from the outside...? You buy them because they are more energy efficient and more comfortable!
@steffenreimann2854
6 жыл бұрын
Most of the e300s were doomed in winter 2009/2010. Without a replacement of the rusted TGV scrap their would be no permanent connection between the island and the continent anymore.
@VinneighPinneigh
3 жыл бұрын
The old one sounded better but I personally like the new colour scheme more
@itzepicgaming_774
6 жыл бұрын
Eurostar 320 is better because its up to date tech. It looks much sleeker, more energy effecient, and carries more passenger, which means more money for Eurostar. The cars are longer than Class 373. 373 was sucked because it corroded very fast.
@たまゆう
7 жыл бұрын
ユーロスターもカッコいいですね!!
@therealracer_1476
6 жыл бұрын
That sound of that Alstom sounds more like a F1 that goes fast
@xx-superklak-xx8254
7 жыл бұрын
Les deux siemens E320 cote à cote sont dans quelle gare ?
@ErebosSan
7 жыл бұрын
A la fin de la vidéo ? Gare du Nord à Paris.
@xx-superklak-xx8254
7 жыл бұрын
Merci
@fugf1623
3 жыл бұрын
Another exemple how Old things can be better than the newest one. And its not nostalgia, the old eurostar are better in every damn categories, except acceleration maybe. Those units are 27 yo ...
@jamieleestransporthub
7 жыл бұрын
Class 373 FTW class 374 FTL
@awesometrainsandbuses
6 жыл бұрын
Mr bean was on the Eurostar E300, that’s why I like E300
@ErebosSan
6 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@tchautdefrance9982
4 жыл бұрын
Je préfère Alstom TMST E300 eurostart que les Siemens E320
@aewctev
6 жыл бұрын
Imagine a new train with the look of the E320, and the sound and whoosing of the E300
@DieselDudeRailway
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@Unix_0
7 жыл бұрын
1:34 anyone noticed the plane in the background?
@ErebosSan
7 жыл бұрын
We are close to Charles-de-Gaulle airport.
@Unix_0
7 жыл бұрын
ooh thats why still great video ;)
@danigaming1800
4 жыл бұрын
I really like the old hero star cause the other thing Is an ice train and k think they taker it out the German depoad
@domigogms6745
4 ай бұрын
hope type E300 will back with new TGV M model. otherwise this sound will be missed in
@R9naldo
6 жыл бұрын
Why does the e320 have 8 PANTOGRAPH'S ??? WASTE OF MONEY FOR 6 UN USED PANTOGRAPH'S
@zeisselgaertner3212
6 жыл бұрын
Dese Different countries require different width of pantographs. So when these trains are supposed to connect the UK with France, Belgium, the Netherlands and perhaps Germany one day they have to be equiped that way.
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
It's for different countries - 25kV AC, 15kV AC, 3kV DC, 1.5kV DC, two pantographs for each one for redundancy
@maraboutdeficelle3763
6 жыл бұрын
Eurostar E320 is the best
@scmsecuritycrackmalwares783
5 жыл бұрын
3:56 Saint denis?
@ErebosSan
5 жыл бұрын
Oui Saint-Denis Stade de France
@jensonsteenhuis3406
Жыл бұрын
The old eurostar my favorite train 👌👌🚅👌
@OntarioTrafficMan
8 жыл бұрын
Dommage que l'e320 manque le bruit magnifique du TMST à pleine vitesse, mais c'est probablement une indication que sa forme est plus aérodynamique.
@ErebosSan
8 жыл бұрын
oui, et il y a aussi la ventilation des blocs moteurs qui participe au bruit caractéristique des TMST.
@Dbiza
4 жыл бұрын
@@ErebosSan le SIFFLEMENT DES BOGGIES 😍 / autre choses
@Dbiza
4 жыл бұрын
@@ErebosSan le SIFFLEMENT DES BOGGIES 😍 / autre choses
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