3:06 "Large relays" - the left one is a power supply, not a relay 3:08 that's a current transformer not a "voltage sensor". If you're going to do this stuff with any credibility, please get someone who actually knows what they're looking at,for a company that represents themselves as experts in the teardown field, it's just embarrassing.
@noel7620
Жыл бұрын
Agree here. Munro usually holds a higher standard and this felt a bit rushed. Also found it surprising that there was no comment on a WiFi antenna inside a metal enclosure.
@edc1569
Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of “servicing fuses” as if we’re talking about a 1970s refrigerator. How often do you service the fuses in your TV for example.
@instanoodles
Жыл бұрын
Not surprised at all, this channel shows how little they know about what they "review" all the time.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to assume that he just misspoke when he said voltage sensor instead of current sensor, but I think that correctly explaining the two black boxes is a pretty fundamental thing, especially with the amount of attention given to the fuses on the input of that power supply.
@BatterVswithAntonio
Жыл бұрын
@@charliesullivan4304 The electrical team walked us through it but yes, voltage sensors, transformers, relays...its amazing how much things blend together mentally when you're being filmed. We're adding text where we catch it and appreciate the *constructive* feedback.
@GerthebearBrady.
Жыл бұрын
I worked for an OEM and we did validation on about 15 different home LV2 chargers and the grizzle was the most rugged device unit and what I'd buy for my home charger.
@SamKhoury
Жыл бұрын
How does the ChargePoint Home Flex compare to the Grizzl-E?
@CFHGARZA
Жыл бұрын
I have a Grizzl-e classic and it's built like a tank. I was surprised how simple it was the first time I opened the enclosure. Great product and made in Canada
@unitedchargers
Жыл бұрын
Fuses are an additional over and above the UL required protection exactly to save the board in case of the external spike.
@thomasbonse
Жыл бұрын
Ahh, but everyone knows that the $500 control board will fail, in order to save the 10¢ fuse.
@unitedchargers
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasbonse We had hundreds of instances where 10c fuse saved the $200 PCBA
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
@@unitedchargers, do fuses really blow that often?
@unitedchargers
Жыл бұрын
@@zroger73 We sell a lot of chargers, that why "hundreds" seems to be a lot. In percentage it is below 1%
@BatterVswithAntonio
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! We'll use this info to better understand chargers!
@deef3
Жыл бұрын
I've been using this charger for two years or so for my Model Y. Very nice simple no frills charger that I've never had any issues with. I recommend it to everyone who asks.
@jayz007
Жыл бұрын
my Grizzl-e has been working great 2+ years. I purchased it because it is simple & rugged.
@andrewt9204
Жыл бұрын
Same here. I've had mine for 2 years and 0 issues. Really is a solid unit. Wanted the Tesla Wall Connector, but decided on J1772 just in case.
@ISpinUWin
Жыл бұрын
Two years here too. No issues. K.I.S.S. Engineering. Let the car do all the scheduling. Get new car with more features, the charger will always do what it is made for - provide power.
@scottxiong5844
Жыл бұрын
I like the replaceable fuse feature on the Grizzle! Thanks for doing these. I know you all like to dissemble stuff for engineering analytic sake, but I enjoy these for repairability sakes as a possible customer :D.
@MunroLive
Жыл бұрын
More to come, thank you for watching!
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
Even better are e-fuses that automatically reset and don't require the device to be disassembled for replacement following a transient current fault. Some potential problems of one-time fuses are: The time and cost required to source replacement fuses, the time and cost required to pay someone to replace the fuses, and the potential shock or electrocution hazard associated with unqualified persons opening up the device to replace the fuses.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
@@zroger73 While we are listing them, another is the potential for someone to replace the fuse with the wrong one leading to a lack of protection or a false trip. On the other hand, these are not in the main current path and really aren't a very important feature of this unit, so the focus on them here is a bit odd.
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
@@charliesullivan4304, excellent point. I can see creative owners installing whatever fuse they can find or bypassing the fuse in a panic attempt to charge their EVs.
"BEAR WITH ME" When ever anyone would unconsciously say that to my friend on the phone he would ask "Grizzly or Polar?" to which they would typically reply "What?!"
@johnpublicprofile6261
Жыл бұрын
NO NOZZLE MENTION? Possibly using exact part, but that itself would be informative. You are slacking guys 😅 Also any difference in cable length, or cable core re copper cost, current&heat resilence, flexibility. After all the cable is the main device to human interaction item.
@johnpoldo8817
Жыл бұрын
Next time, add an electrical engineer to the presentation. I expected you to tell us why Topdon charger had so many discrete components and Grizzle E did not.
@BatterVswithAntonio
Жыл бұрын
we'll do a synopsis once were done, the early ones are still benchmarks. Understanding the normal.
@jrghays46
Жыл бұрын
I have the extreme edition (camo paint) without wifi and it's working well. I appreciate the simplicity in design. It's heavy but easy to install. Mine doesn't have all the smart features, but I wanted something dumb. Too many folks have been burned by OTA updates bricking their charger.
@Pikminiman
Жыл бұрын
Dunno if I'm imagining this, but Antonio looks fitter than before.
@EnerGeezerSquirrel
Жыл бұрын
If you go back to the first Munro episodes (2020) even Cory was a bit "chunkier."
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
@@EnerGeezerSquirrel Cory was a lot chunkier - one suspects he spent all of lockdown eating... He does look dramatically less likely to keel over with a heart attack at any moment now, so well done him.
@Alex-je6od
Жыл бұрын
I do wish y'all would look at the OpenEVSE next. I love mine... serviceability is A+ (though, the modular design means it's a bit complex)
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
Жыл бұрын
🙋♂️THANKS ANTONIO,JULIAN and the MUNRO TEAM…for the tear down, cute stories and puns are always BEARABLE 🐻😁💚💚💚
@SlowHandism
6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best review videos I've ever seen. Excellent job very detailed.
@UnlikelyToRemember
Жыл бұрын
The Tesla charger case neatly holds its cable. Given that these are little more than 'junction boxes', that's the major feature difference in my mind.
@jrghays46
Жыл бұрын
The Grizzl-e comes with a holster to mount on the wall to hold the plug when not in use. It has a groove on the top side of the holster to carry the cable. It's not as elegant as the Tesla set up, but it's simple and it works well.
@mattbrew11
Жыл бұрын
The grizzle comes with a nice holster for the cable therefore there is zero difference
@ag135i
Жыл бұрын
Munro deserves to be watched in 720p kudos.
@johnreese3762
Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, well done!
@EZ_shop
Жыл бұрын
Love the home chargers (EVSE 😉) teardown series. Thank you for making it, I find it super interesting and greatly educational. Ciao, Marco.
@ExtraPotatoSalad
Жыл бұрын
Julian is a muscle cub, IYKYK.
@dscarty
Жыл бұрын
One of the first things prospective purchasers look for is the charging cable length. Did you discuss that?
@chunkychuck
Жыл бұрын
24 feet
@AraCarrano
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Does the sealed can structure affect the WIFI range?
@VedaSay
Жыл бұрын
There are petting zoo in Oklahoma where you can pet a tiger cub too!
@Clark-Mills
Жыл бұрын
3:07 Current sensor? (rather than a voltage sensor)
@garyankney2456
Жыл бұрын
Please add in the cost comparison for each charger.
@alanp7888
Жыл бұрын
Very nice, would love to see a tear down of the GRIZZL-E MINI portable charger.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
Maybe wait until the get it through UL, so it's the final version.
@MrSnicol
Жыл бұрын
Early next year I will allow you to tear down my Xmas decorations. You are welcome!!
@batchint
Жыл бұрын
do you do flashing light arrangements… 🎉
@ohwahtdaheck
6 ай бұрын
I see some comments online that the bays for the hard wire lugs are pretty specific size wise. There's at least one video of someone (foolishly IMO) modifying lugs with a grinder. I think Grizzl-e does give specifics but it would be nice if you covered hard wiring options. Otherwise great video, the product looks great.
@MrFoxRobert
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MunroLive
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@junkerzn7312
Жыл бұрын
I love my Grizzl-E. Basically got it for the weather sealing... I figure, if it is designed for Canada, it can handle anything. I don't need (or even want) wifi or app control or any of that sort of thing. I just want to plug it in. Beyond that, all of the EVSE's are pretty much the same thing, just big glorified contactors with a handful of safety features.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
What I would be interested in on this one is a careful look the terminal strip. There was a run that had a lot of failures there, attributed to a short term problem with newly trained assembly workers, and improper torque. It would be interesting to know the details on who makes that, what current it's rated for, and how much margin there is between too loose and overheating vs. too tight and stripping out the threads in the thin copper piece.
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
Grizzl-E Smart is $449 and charges at 40 amps. Tesla Wall Connector is $425 and charges at 48 amps, has built-in cord storage, a longer warranty (4 years vs. 3), the Tesla connector version has a button to open the vehicle's charging port, and is arguably more stylish. Why would I buy Grizzl-E over Tesla for either a Tesla or J1772 application?
@jezza6575
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, not to mention the Tesla Wall Connector is rated for outdoor use as well as additional smart functions to use multiple Wall Connectors on the same circuit to share and distribute power.
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
@@jezza6575, don't get me wrong - I like choices and I'm trying to keep an open mind here, but I just don't see any advantage to the Grizzle-E - it seems like paying more for a base-level work truck with a V6 engine and vinyl seats than a V8-powered model with leather interior.
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
The Grizzl-E also uses 42% more power when idle and the power loss at full current is nearly 28 TIMES higher than the Tesla Wall Connector according to Energy Star tests.
@andrewt9204
Жыл бұрын
I bought this over the tesla connector because of the simplicity and cold weather performance of the cable as I live in MN. I didn't want or need wifi as the car can already do scheduled charging. Also wanted J1772 just in case I needed to charge something else or switched from a tesla. I don't anticipate having 2 EV's so load sharing wasn't a factor either. I also have enough panel capacity for another circuit, or I could use the welding plug if I really needed. It's my backup with the mobile connector in case something happens to the grizzl-e although I don't expect anything to happen, it's built like a tank. It came with a remote mounted holster/cable hanger which I'm able to mount a bit closer to the charge port than where the unit is mounted.
@rpdx3
Жыл бұрын
@@zroger73source links please. Thanks.
@frankhage1734
Жыл бұрын
I'd like a more in-depth discussion of the circuitry. More of a BigClive approach. It's not magic.
@Stefan_Dahn
Жыл бұрын
Good idea! Big Clive / Munro co-video. 😁
@josephezechukwu1960
Жыл бұрын
Good work 👏
@FBIMitch
9 ай бұрын
Wow Grizzl-E impressive quality and Made in Canada that tops it.
@JosephWall117
Жыл бұрын
I like seeing these. Could you do a teardown of some portable units? I know it's not something you recommend using, but that's why I want to see the workmanship that goes into them compared to these hardwired units. Clipper Creek makes hardy reliable UL listed units, for example, if you'd like to crack open one of those. Thanks for the great EV content.
@selvakumarr6672
10 ай бұрын
Hi. Good one. left side black part is not a relay but AC/DC converter.
@omelborpon3159
10 ай бұрын
How long was the charging cable? What was AWG gauge of the cable? How many strands in cable? What was insulation rating? How robust is the cable to car connector? Etc?
@bleep86
Жыл бұрын
I bought the classic less than a year ago to do 30A out of my house for now. If i move up to 50A, you just need to change the dip switches inside, they said.
@jezza6575
Жыл бұрын
Only rated for 40A…don’t for to upgrade your breaker when you trip those dip switches!
@ruftime
Жыл бұрын
Just installed another Tesla wall connector, hard to beat for price, ease of installation, cable management and styling…..not sure why a Tesla owner would jump ship for an aftermarket charger at Tesla’s competitive price.
@linuxmill
Жыл бұрын
i used to build remote sensors and we used these boxes. they are excellent!
@harriettanthony7352
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ho! This review echoes Mr. Tom Mologney , State of Charge, review. This is a first rate charger which will survive if you have kids in the house. I have two of this brand, and I have had no problems nor concerns with it. They COMPLETLY left out the fact that you can have this charger device with a plug in OR a hard wired installation method. To the curious reader in search of an excellent charger; this is the one to buy! {For all the linguistic Karens-- 'charger' is the vernacular term for what is, in plain terms, an extension cord with a computer attached to it, to feed electricity to your EV. The true 'charger' lies inside the EV}>
@rfekztjpkrpd4988
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a standard ESP32 module with a USB-UART IC for programming. Some opportunities for further integration are left aside. The Wifi module could have been integrated onto the main PCB. Or is anyone going to retrofit this? Does not look like there is a lot of protection circuit going on. Spring contacts could have been used instead of the screw terminals. Less chances for failure because they can't be under/over torqued. The side labels could have been replaced with laser marking the case. Also no info about what color states which status? If Tesla could get away without the EMC measures (ferrite cores) they would have probably.
@qcsupport2594
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate these tear downs. I'm going to be "that guy" for a moment and suggest you avoid the word "simplistic" since it usually has a negative connotation that you clearly didn't mean here. Not a biggy, just paws for thought. Keep up the great stuff!
@rpdx3
Жыл бұрын
Had the same though. “Simple” would be better than “simplistic”, or better a “clean” design. 😊
@finnmccool5879
Жыл бұрын
The Hall effect devices are current sensors, not voltage sensors......
@skataskatata9236
Жыл бұрын
I suspect that the WiFi range is compromised by mounting the antenna inside the (very rugged) faraday cage.
@skyrace4306
Жыл бұрын
That is correct. Grizzle is a devopment based on the old eMotorWerks Juicebox (before they got bought by EnelX). The old Juicebox had a top antenna puck. The Grizzle does not have that and lower range. The charger itself is good. If you want smart EVSE features, look for a different device. Their software and app integration really sucks.
@nikwax
5 ай бұрын
Quite a few Grizzl-E units caught fire at the terminal block. Any comment on that? Likely to be an assembly issue, or is the terminal block under spec for the load?
@phtofl
Жыл бұрын
waiting for the Emporia charger... its one of the cheapest on the market, including WiFi, power monitoring, etc.
@NoInfoFound
Жыл бұрын
It is good to hear that some of the engineers are open to inviting Furries into their poker games. 00:01
@Firestorm637
Жыл бұрын
They are called wall connectors. Charger is in the car level
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
You need to talk a bit more about the software. The grizzl-e is nice because it will connect to any OCPP 1.6J provider, so you can easily control your own charger. Most other chargers don't give you this option.
@skyrace4306
Жыл бұрын
In theory it does... reality shows that the integration to other than their own partnership with a third party company is subpar at best.
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
@@skyrace4306 OK. Interesting to know. I wonder if that's their implementation, or other people's. Standards-based charging and power control is the only way we are ever going to get away from the crazy world of having to find triplets of vehicle/EVSE/power supplier that work together. We need more charge-fests like they do for bluetooth, zigbee and USB. In general if it's not been tested, then it probably doesn't work right.
@EnerGeezerSquirrel
Жыл бұрын
Weight is a factor for shipping, but in a static installation is it much of a factor? I realise it's part of the specs and is a valid data point, but I don't think my wall would complain by saying "You're too heavy! Get me a Tesla instead!" Given it's built with much less bespoke design required, is so simple to build, and is safe, I'd say the weight is a fair trade-off.
@squee8174
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's a solid package
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
I think they are discussing that as a very rough proxy for cost of materials.
@BatterVswithAntonio
Жыл бұрын
weight is often a large factor in manufacturing cost, but it really comes down to form/fit/function, the metal case provides a ruggedness function that is worth the extra weight
@tomshire5152
Жыл бұрын
As Charles Sullivan already stated, weight is a rough proxy for material costs. It is also a rough measure of efficiency in design and a product's carbon footprint. We may want a heavier product for the sake of durability or serviceability, but hopefully that won't come at a significantly higher carbon cost.
@ranig2848
Жыл бұрын
Really nice design but I doubt that the Wi-Fi will work (prove me wrong of course). Placing a radio inside of a mostly sealed enclosure is a REALLY bad idea. Most devices enclosed in metal boxes require an external antenna. Theoretically, it might be possible to have the holes on the bottom tuned to allow Wi-Fi to go through but I doubt if they did so. They've basically places a Wi-Fi device in a Faradey Cage (which is a device specifically targeted at blocking RF signals). I live the model but NOBODY should buy the Wi-Fi model. Again... I'd love to be wrong on this but I am VERY skeptical.
@edc1569
Жыл бұрын
I’m confused by that too, the Wi-Fi performance must be awful
@concinnus
Жыл бұрын
When I saw that I figured they just routed the antenna thru the PCB, maybe to an extra wire antenna in the cable or to the box itself. But no, the antenna is that little black bit on top of the wi-fi PCB, and its reception must be trash.
@Chris28mmz
Жыл бұрын
I have the Grizzl-E with WiFi and the Wi-Fi works well. No problems at all.
@Miata822
Жыл бұрын
You guys should learn how an EVSE works. It would have been nice to see some detail of their control circuit. Lower coil appears to be ground fault sense and upper to be current. Neither is "voltage." Would be nice to see what chips they are using. Is it one relay for each leg? Fuses are certainly on the relay coil circuits. That means the board is likely repairable if a relay coil goes short.
@360MIX
Жыл бұрын
ISSUES I see... WIFI Card completely encased in a fully shield/metal box will reduce reception of signal (think faraday cage for those RF Peeps) . I don't see external antenna or any way for RF to pass thru the metal box. Also no Blast-proof ceramic fuses are used..
@edc1569
Жыл бұрын
Why would you need blast proof fuses, they’re just protecting the on board power supply, not the load to the car.
@brandonsmith4698
Жыл бұрын
Can you shorten the charger cable on these, seems pretty easy to do?
@BeepasGarage
Жыл бұрын
Chargepoint Flex next!
@DarrenMansour
Жыл бұрын
I bought the wifi model and the wifi functionality never actually worked. It does charge good though. Just don't buy the wifi one
@ranig2848
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the fact that it has a metal (aluminum) case is part of the reason for WiFi not working or just having really bad reception. Usually, when you have a metal enclosure you need to add an external antenna.
@nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
Жыл бұрын
Does the Grizzl-E provides ground and arc faults protection using GFCI and AFCI breakers ? or only uses fuses for overloading protrection?
@skyrace4306
Жыл бұрын
Just ground fault, no arc fault!
@MartinKamau-uj4ie
5 ай бұрын
Which method is being used to label the top casing?
@thenetworkarchitectchannel
Жыл бұрын
GM sells an Ultium branded one made by Flow. A review of that would be appreciated if you are able. Thx for the Vid. I enjoyed watching. I have my eye on the Grizzl-E to add to my garage wall. Looks purpose built.
@LuminairPrime
Жыл бұрын
They really need to offer a case that gracefully holds the cable like the Flo does... people will pay up...
@aikafuwa7177
Ай бұрын
Simplicity is not simple to achieve. Simplicity allows to higher quality components to shine thru and not need a bunch of things to mitigate and compensate for lower cost lower quality garbage.
@BrianOlmsted
Жыл бұрын
The terminals for hooking up the wires for the NEMA plug (and the “charger” wand) with the crimp on spades makes it pretty much impossible to convert to hardwire configuration because the width of the terminals is too narrow to get off the shelf connectors to put on your #6 L1/L2 and #10 ground wires. I found someone on KZitem trying to do hardwire explaining this and I steered clear of Grizzl-E because of this as much as I’m Canadian and wanted to support them
@BrianOlmsted
Жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/kYOnp6CfqWalpn4
@BrianOlmsted
Жыл бұрын
Correction #8 L1/L2 and likely #10 ground since this 40 amp charger. The KZitem link I posted has part 2 where he converted to these Southwire lugs so perhaps doable solution. The liquid tight install using OEM compression fitting from OEM NEMA plug seems bit dicey as he should have used proper liquid tight connectors to go to box Hope his info helps you out in your decisions but I steered clear as much that I wanted to support Canadian brand - as I need hardwire outside install preferably at 48 amp instead of 40 amp for product designed for this setup and didn’t want outside rated NEMA covered plug on the outside of my house and a pricey GFCI outlet when hardwire is simpler, cleaner look, cheaper, and faster charging
@jamesburian5203
9 ай бұрын
I just finished hardwiring one. It would have been nice to have them at least include 2 of the 6 gauge terminals similar to the ones they already use. Except with proper screw holes in them. Not 2 sizes bigger. I used aviation grade non insulated terminals which had a screw hole one size bigger. They were slightly oversized. Instead of grinding the terminals, I took a dremel and notched out enough of the outside plastic dividers (not the ones next to the ground terminal) to allow the terminal to fit right in. This shifted the screw hole of the terminal slightly to the outsides of the assembly, but still had no problem with screw lining up due to larger terminal hole. Used 3/4 inch flexible conduit from Lowe's which press fit perfectly into existing compression coupling.
@ronaldfradet4033
Жыл бұрын
I bought one and i have issues with the current limiter not working properly. It keeps blowing my 30 amp fuses once in a while. i wonder if you tested the current limiter circuit as mine is set for 24 amps and blows my 30 amp fuse . The wiring was verified by a certified electrician. So the wiring is ok. I am suspecting the charger the company is slow to provide answers.
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
It's not clear if this thing has the 6mA DC leakage detection built-in or not. Maybe US regulations don't mention it, but this is needed in the UK to avoid having to fit a dedicated earth rod.
@andrewt9204
Жыл бұрын
It does have built in GFCI with integrity check. Or mine does at least. I can't install it on a GFCI breaker as it will just trip since the Grizzl-E is continuously sending out that 6mA pulse to check for grounding stability. Even an insufficient ground will disable this EVSE as it's checking the impedance. I think they've lowered the mA pulse on recent models so it can still be installed on a GFCI to meet codes for receptacles. Mine's hardwired so I don't need a GFCI breaker.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
It's UL listed, and that's required by the UL standard (as well as by the SAE J1772 standard and the US National Electrical Code).
@memrjohnno
Жыл бұрын
Tough looking bugger. Nice.
@Stefan_Dahn
Жыл бұрын
3:06 Looks like a current sensor, not a voltage sensor.
@SR-he5wi
Жыл бұрын
Do you guys check if the relays utilize zero crossing technology or not? Seem to be really small and cheap pcb-mounted relays. Similar cheap relays as tesla, though
@zroger73
Жыл бұрын
I’d guess not because the relays don’t switch under load. The charger doesn’t ramp up charging current until after the relays close.
@corycombs9802
Жыл бұрын
first! very interesting video
@MunroLive
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being here! 🥇
@HydrogenFuelTechnologies
Жыл бұрын
@@MunroLiveCool 😎 but what happens when you gaslight ⛽ a grizzly? A Thermonuclear fusion reaction? Only "heavy" water 💧 and a lithium carbonate pill 💊 ✨ 😏 💪 can fix that "meltdown" Bear 🐻 🐻❄ 🧸 🐻 Power 🔋 💪 is ☢ Danger mfs 🤣 😂 H-Cat ☢ 4 Life Hyliion = KarnoKluxKlan
@tazeat
Жыл бұрын
@3:08 You say voltage sensor, those are hall effect current sensors...
@tedryan5606
7 ай бұрын
Why are so many Ford Mobile Chargers failing
@shazam6274
Жыл бұрын
Underwhelming, poor design and execution (see the crooked label and ludicrous light pipe). Made to be cheap (i.e. leaves out the $3.47 O-ring to make it splash proof), but fails, as it costs the same as the superior competition. Blatant Mistakes: 1:20 "subtle differences" consist of two: paint color and Wireless card not plugged in. Not exactly "subtle"!; 3:05 Those ferrites are not voltage sensors, but EMI filters and likely a Current sensor; 3:30 "Lead Free" symbol is actually on the antenna portion of the wireless PCB, not the main PCB, so the "Avalanche" version would not have it; 3:48 "injection-molded stanchions" are extruded nylon spacer tubing, cut to length; 5:00 the DIP Switch simply lets the processor know a Wi-Fi card has been plugged in; 5:13 "no real estate being wasted..." ridiculous, same size PCB and layout; 5:30 "presence of actual fuses..." demonstrating again lazy engineering and trying to save money (note that neither fuses, fuse holders or the assembly is cheaper than other "fuses-less" solutions, also note that entire Vehicles, and the charger connection boxes, from Tesla with scores of electronic modules, including very high power components of the power train have no fuses, yet are fully protected!): "hard mounted fuses...serviceability" If properly designed and agency approved, when the fuse blows there is an internal overcurrent, which is not readily repairable, especially for "garage handymen"; 9:03 Again, with the moronic evaluation and rating of electronic devices which are installed on the structure of a building by Weight! The small weight or mass is not affecting the performance of an aircraft or a vehicle! Whether it is 1 kg or 100 kg make no difference to the intended use case or application! This is substandard to the level of Munro's other videos and an embarrassment. On par with the cringeworthy analysis of Freezers from a few years ago.
@rwojo
Жыл бұрын
Summed up well. Very sub par review. Also did the handle not have a temp sensor?
@stefan-bayer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the points you listed ! Have a nice day :)
@JigilJigil
Жыл бұрын
Made in Canada on the cover, even though 99% of all the components are made in China.
@kkc1931
Жыл бұрын
Even the iPhone components are made in china too.
@mrzinky9620
Жыл бұрын
This is drivel. I expect Monroe to comment about engineering for manufacturing, durability, and performance. Talking about how much a circuit board weighs and how easy it is to take a unit apart is completely irrelevant. Also, if you know why there are physical fuses in lieu of electronic circuit breakers, say so, but you don't know, you're just speculating. I get enough of that from talking heads on TV
@benjaminrindt2699
Жыл бұрын
also slacking analysis - "lead free on the board" - the icon is on the 3rd party daughter board, the small board with the controller soldered on the "wifi card" - which doesn't mean anything for the whole board. the chip might even be an esp32 which would be interesting to know they are using this in there. Also is this an electrical engineer talking about the "integrated pad presenting the electricity to choose different paths for electricity" ? Really?
@BatterVswithAntonio
Жыл бұрын
This is the third one we've torn down. So we don't have a baseline for "normal", yet. We are seeing some common circuits and the hall-effect voltage sensors are common features. We'll do a synopsis at the end to actually point out what is unique.
@J.W.W.
Жыл бұрын
This unit was on my short list for my home charger. I ended up choosing the Emporia
@batchint
Жыл бұрын
grizzled by a nosey plate… I’m thinking someone feed a real live grizzly some sweet food…
@skyrace4306
Жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: Do not hire Munro in regards to electronics and EVSE design. This is an embarrassment for an engineering/consulting company!
@jonedog2567
10 ай бұрын
This thing is made to fail
@no-eb2xx
Жыл бұрын
"Charger" literally pointless box that could be eliminated. It's a relay that turns on and off and nothing more.
@edc1569
Жыл бұрын
This is dumb, there needs to be some negotiation to ensure safety of the user and vehicle, to ensure that you aren’t just pulling plugs out on load, that exposed contacts are safe in all weather, that the vehicle does not overload a circuit, etc. it’s actually a very simple and fairly elegant, open protocol for these things.
@no-eb2xx
Жыл бұрын
@@edc1569 you could fit all this crap into the electrical box on a DIN rail, if negotiation and a relay is all that's needed... The car can recognize the capability of the element and self adjust the charge speed. These boxes are not needed at all.
@charliesullivan4304
Жыл бұрын
@@no-eb2xx Eaton has a EVSE that has all of the multiple necessary functions built into a circuit breaker, so the wire goes directly from the circuit breaker to the J1772 charge cord. You might appreciate that design. But a lot of their example installations still have a box on the wall, just serving as a junction box. If you've done a splice with AWG 6 wires, you probably appreciate that having significant space in the box is helpful.
@MartinKamau-uj4ie
5 ай бұрын
Which method is being used to label the top casing?
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