Don’t hate EV’s per se, I personally would panic every time I got below 50% range……..I do that now in my car! The big but is we have a tank gives me 300 miles of towing still. This is my personal nightmare of running out of charge on British motorways…….😂😂😂
@Harris70-70
Жыл бұрын
Hi, to be honest I watch you mainly for your excellent filming of Scotland , particularly the Outer Hebrides! Love Dougal and Ted too . Loved how Ted was tilting his head side to side at the sound of the birds😊 See the weather is not always worse in Scotland 😂 although love the sound of the pouring rain on the caravan window . Andrew please keep on sending us great footage , keeps us chilled out in a crazy world x
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@rhinogooner
Жыл бұрын
I don’t hate EV’s as you put it, it’s the charging availability. We like to go off grid a lot so it means finding somewhere to charge on route which can’t be done because you have to unhitch or mess about going off site to find a charger. This hatred as you say, will disappear amongst the towing community when petrol forecourts have charging points where you can just roll on, roll off and carry on with your journey. EV’s are coming there is no stopping them but governments are putting the cart before the horse, banning petrol/diesel cars when the infrastructure for EV’s just isn’t there yet.
@craig.bryant
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree 🙌
@NoOne-jy6mc
4 ай бұрын
To be truly off-grid, I would simply put 3kW of solar on that caravan roof. You could camp somewhere for a week, then tow for another 100 miles, and so on, forever. No EV charging stations ever. And if you're already at full charge, you can just run the air-con all day in summer while the sun is out.
@garethlightfoot3665
Жыл бұрын
Loving the appreciation of the EV haters🤣🤣👍👏
@roserado8228
Жыл бұрын
This would be informative and interesting,if only he didn’t use a computer voice for narration!
@JamesBalazs
11 ай бұрын
@@roserado8228eh? That's literally just the guy that owns the channel talking into a microphone. His real voice is in every one of his videos...
@paulredhead8603
Ай бұрын
Why, if you disagree with any ev matter are you labelled as a 'hater'? It really is very infantile and rather tedious.
@PompullaMaailmalle
Жыл бұрын
Interesting findings. I hope you'll get to test a low profile caravan in the future. Something like Eriba Touring could be a nice caravan to try out.
@jacekkapanowski5815
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been following your series about EV towing (other episodes too, for a few years now) and my impression is that you basically travel from charger to charger :-). Distance that you can cover on full charge, a little over 100 miles (to leave some juice in the battery), is pathetic. And as I understand there is no way to stay a few days far from civilization, especially if you use car’s battery to run caravan’s equipment. I totally understand the pleasure of quiet ride of an EV, effortless acceleration, etc. but charging time (and the fuss with the payment) and range are unacceptable, so is the cost of an EV.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that I get about 1.8 mi/kWh with my much smaller caravan…
@craig.bryant
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Not an EV hater but very thankful for petrol and diesel after watching the faff finding charging. The electric charging network market needs to consolidate as well as massively expand before I take the plunge over
@G-ra-ha-m
Жыл бұрын
Another issue is if you want to park the caravan and then drive to a location without a charger. After watching all the EV stuff, I'm a bit puzzled where any energy savings are ;)
@leecromer3289
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen his video regarding his trip from Scotland to London. There was a ‘charging hub’ with about thirty chargers, none worked, the place was deserted and in a right derelict state because no one was using it🤔🤔🤔
@G-ra-ha-m
Жыл бұрын
@@leecromer3289 Diesel is my favourite fuel, it's the most environmental, and overall the least CO2. But people need to stop seeing CO2 as bad, it's actually helping feed the world.
@rocklover7437
Жыл бұрын
@@G-ra-ha-mElephant in the room they don't want you knowing about is CNG and it's why there are only 8 petrol stations that sell it at 42p ltr . Boot space isn't a problem since twin tank technology.
@TheRealSteveEllis
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help grow the channel😂, as an EV sceptic I am enjoy watching you explore this alternative power source. Not for me with current capability but can see how it is ideal for some lifestyles. We don’t need to agree on everything to be kind and courteous, keep up the good work sir.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Steve, and thanks for keeping an open mind. I aim to simply share my experiences and let people make up their own minds. It makes me roll my eyes when people accuse me of having an agenda. Why on earth would I? ;)
@katrinaclosier4872
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these honest ev/ towing reviews. We’re not ready yet to make the jump to an ev, but can see that this will be the way of the future. Thanks Andrew 😊
@rafilondyn
Жыл бұрын
131 miles range its a laugh. I'll be camping this year in Great Yarmouth traveling from south of London. My diesel car range is 46MPG which gives me over 600 miles range on full tank. I could go there twice and return on one tank and will take me 2 minutes to fill it up 😂
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Guess your bladder is stronger than mine then!
@scottwilson5426
Жыл бұрын
As always entertaining regardless of personal opinions about ev's! But no matter how many videos can't help, the need for another member called Jack.. your already from an island and have a Ted and Dougal, there has to be an additional jack waiting on the wings!! Looking forward to the next instalment.. till then stay safe.
@maryodonnell5760
Жыл бұрын
oh god no, not a Jack 🤣I'm not sure these modern vehicles need them now and...I don't think the clan would tolerate the language of Fr Jack, Mrs Doyle however....if ever there's a stray cat taken in... ps hear about the Dublin taxi driver had to pay 14k for a replacement battery in a couple of years...people will tolerate a lot if they believe it's the only way to save the planet, but electric has a bigger cost all round that peeps realise
@michaelstanley3961
Жыл бұрын
Wow. The caravan club states only 3% of sites with ev charging. Most coastal resorts have very limited points. We are too far away. As an electrical engineer i know ev limitations. No way would I buy one for my caravan, although as a vehicle for my local commute it's perfect. 131 miles what's the point, I want to get to Cornwall it will take 3 days if I can find charging points. Cornwall has a very limited ev charging infrastructure so getting back would be fun.......... keep youths diesel for towing at the moment and ev for commuting. Weight and mass are the key factors I'm afraid. But enjoy the optimism..
@stevep.8706
Жыл бұрын
Another great video thanks Andrew but, I'm not an EV hater either. I used to be a complete petrol head with no desire to drive let alone own a diesel car. Now I have a diesel as the government of the day said they were far less polluting than petrol, diesel promised economy and diesel fuel was cheap. But, the government did a complete U-turn on diesel and now it's demonised as is petrol. However, the French German and Italians have very recently vetoed the EU parliament's planned European banning of the sale of new petrol and diesel vehicles in 2035. The UK ban is supposed to be in 2030 so, is the UK government now going to do a U-turn on their plan. The London ULEZ expansion plans have just been scuppered with the threat of a High Court challenge by several London boroughs and Surrey Council. However, it's now likely that the government will be considering the scrapping of road tax and introducing a pay by the mile scheme backed by more ANPR cameras. So, we all lose out and EV drivers will lose one of the key benefits of EV ownership, no road tax. The whole thing is a total mess. On a personal note, I'm off to Northumberland at the weekend with my caravan, a distance of 220 miles which means that, if I had an EV, I would have to recharge it enroute. I watched a video recently where someone planned to charge their EV at a motorway service area while towing a caravan. It proved impossible without detaching the caravan and leaving it unattended in the HGV park and then going off to join the queue for the charging point. Until the infrastructure to support the wholesale use of EV's is in place and the cost of electricity is brought under control because, we're all facing massive price hikes, I'll be sticking to my Euro 6 compliant diesel.
@davidchaffey2207
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative but as a caravan owner I would not make the change to EV. I would like range to exceed 200 miles and for charging to be easier and quicker to feel comfortable with the technology. So for now I will stick to my F -Pace diesel.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
All I strive to do David is to inform people so they can make up their own minds given the data available. Thanks for keeping an open mind! Your concerns are 100% valid. Thanks for watching.
@jamesfoote8916
Жыл бұрын
Volvo who do the same car in electric and petrol worked out that an electric car is dirty upto 90,000 miles so there advice is buy a modern petrol engine and keep it. If we are wanting clean cars and don’t want to destroy our Society we need to go alternative fuels. We already have the infrastructure and all cars could be converted to it it. Most definitely at this stage is not electric. I don’t hate EV cars they Just don’t make any sense
@nickbrown6457
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very honest. I don't think I will ever get over the uncertainty of arriving at a place that is supposedly going to charge my vehicle, when it might be broken, or being used by someone else, or the app doesn't work, or some other problem. 5, 6, or 7 hours to charge, to just partially charge, a vehicle? Really? I have anxiety issues and electric cars just will never work for me. I think electric cars are a partial solution to the current issues, and will help in future but I think hydrogen power could be a more effective solution for most of us, as is being promoted by firms like Toyota. Much less polluting to build than electric cars and only water as the output from the exhaust pipe.
@cholseygrangecl2684
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew for mentioning our site here at Cholsey Grange CL and CL Booking - making it easier to book these small 5-van sites - and supporting the rural communities where they are based. It was pleasure to meet you and your canine companions! Next time, I hope we can arrange better weather and you can stay for a little longer to admire our views and walking opportunities.
@InverhavonRailways
2 ай бұрын
Perhaps the answer to ev charging is for caravan manufacturers to install a dedicated 13a socket suitable for car charging (or other uses) from new. It would certainly inspire confidence in the future of caravanning.
@caravanstuff2827
Жыл бұрын
Only 10% extra for a more civilized RV living standard well on your travels seems like a no brainer Andrew...when are going to trade up... Your invaluable information is making the investment in a f150 lightning to tow my 23ft 1800kg van a more feasible option in the future as I don't travel more than 200klm a day ever and would like to stop making C02 as soon as I can!!!♥️🇬🇧🇺🇦
@mikepepler
Жыл бұрын
Pleased to see the rest of the trip went well! 🙂
@leecromer3289
Жыл бұрын
Yet AnotherApp, a faff, I could go on…no thanks…
Жыл бұрын
I’ve just towed our 1800kg, 8ft wide, twin axle caravan for the first time this weekend with our XC40 Recharge. We got 1.4mi/Kw which I’m very happy with. Considering it was 9C and into a 20mph headwind and the size/weight of it I’m very happy with that, but I’m hoping to improve upon it in the warmer weather still.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, cheers!
@RCrudi
Жыл бұрын
I thought the towing capacity of the XC40 Recharge was 1500kg, which is what put me off them.
Жыл бұрын
@@RCrudi the Twin motor AWD is 1800kg. Single motor is 1500kg
@andykoldy8696
Жыл бұрын
Still towing 1800kg caravan with equal towing capacity car is risky/suicide it should be at least 200kg margin.
Жыл бұрын
@@andykoldy8696 Absolute rubbish. The car is specified to be able to tow that much and there is no reason you shouldn't. I suspect you are thinking of ICE cars where their kerb weight is lower and so if you tow the max load you end up with a trailer heavier than the car which is less than desirable (but still legal and safe if done properly). This is not the case with EV's as their kerb weight is so high thanks to their batteries.
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I loved your videos long before the EV inception, and I look forward to the day when, in the U. S. EVs e built to pull the longer distances between destinations with charging ports at the campgrounds.
@JWBFarming
Жыл бұрын
We’ve just got back from a trip with our 6 berth 1300kg caravan with our Ioniq 5. It managed a 110 mile journey with about 20 miles range to spare, not too bad I thought. And the warden turned a blind eye to us trickle charging off the hookup. 😊
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Daniel! Yes, that sounds about comparable with my experiences too. All the best.
@commuterbranchline8132
Жыл бұрын
What caravan are you towing Daniel?
@JWBFarming
Жыл бұрын
@@commuterbranchline8132 A fairway 570 from about 2006.
@leecromer3289
Жыл бұрын
Why would he need to turn a blind eye?
@ManxAndy
Жыл бұрын
Good evening Andrew, Dougal & Ted….🐶🐶. That’s quite a surprising outcome, given how much larger the Adria is over your own caravan……👍🇮🇲
@weenedonpetrol
Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video and it confirms my theory that aerodynamics are more significant than weight. I certainly think my next vehicle is going to be electric. Thank you, Andrew.
@dakotabcn
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it affects a lot, I have a small 300 kg shop trailer and being small aerodynamically it does not affect almost anything, consumption is quite good, surely if I took something like Adria, which unfortunately I cannot, consumption would go down by 50% further
@stevezodiac491
Жыл бұрын
All cyclists know that 90% of power used propelling you along, is used to push air aside.
@dakotabcn
Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew!!! Thanks for the great video, the Adria is incredible, and that the Ev6 handles it so easily I have a Kia ENiro with a small shop trailer (sorry if the translation is weird, I use google translate) it weighs 300 Kg since my Kia Eniro doesn't allow towing more weight, and I have 204 Cv. My average consumption is about 17kWh/100km, with a 64 kWh battery it gives me to do 80 - 10% at a speed of 90 km/h, which is legal in Spain for vehicles with a trailer of about 280 km. You make me very envious since I would like to be able to take even a simple caravan, but few EVs have the option like your EV6 I subscribe to see your trips and experiences :)
@andrewjones-productions
Жыл бұрын
From the point of view of torque, the silence and the advantage of being able to power you caravan from the car, EVs have a lot of advantages. Huge advantages to be honest. I do not for one have an irrational hatred of them. However, unless battery technology and charging times, not to mention the stupidity of the layouts of charging points, still convince me that hydrogen will become the main alternative popular energy source. I envisage a lot of trouble, scuffles and road rage at motorway service areas during peak holiday times when EVs become far more prevalent. It is bad enough being in a long queue for a petrol station, but that queue is going to be far, far longer if the technology doesn't improve drastically. Technological developments take time, effort and breakthroughs. What can immediately change is that the government steps in with legislation that motorway service areas etc. provide a charging point to every single parking bay by the same deadline when ICE vehicles cannot be longer sold. The Government is the biggest culprit and are far too keen in headline grabbing and stating 'we were first/fastest/greatest' instead of putting their heads down and actually planning for the mayhem that may occur and can be avoided by planning. There also needs to be legislation that charging points must be repaired within 24 hours, if not less. My beef isn't with EVs, it is with the lack of planning to accommodate them and especially, towing with them. However, Andrew, please keep up with this important work that you are doing as it will also help to encourage the government to get their act together. How about a collaboration with the AA or RAC?
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Andrew! Not yet found anyone who wants to collaborate with me because possibly I am too open and honest about both sides?
@chriscurwen3059
Жыл бұрын
Andrew, great idea to do a test with a 'family' sized caravan. Please, though, why didn't you do a representative 'family' holiday trip of several hundred miles to your final destination, and without preselected EV friendly stops?
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Not all families want to go hundreds of miles. When I was a kid we normally did under 50 miles: Dover-Herne Bay or Dover-Dymchurch.
@theworldaccordingtochris4370
Жыл бұрын
So basically get a petrol or diesel tow vehicle. 🙄
@richardhumby8704
Жыл бұрын
Stick with a diesel thanks, EVs are not the answer!
@richarddelasota1812
Жыл бұрын
I am glad I rediscovered your channel. If reviews, positive or negative, are adding subscribers, that’s good. To be clear, I don’t hate EVs. In my view, the kind of vehicle one chooses to drive should be a personal choice, not mandated, prohibited, monetarily discouraged or subsidized by any governmental body. Personally, I would not want to be limited to slightly over 100 miles in range followed by hours of charging. I have neither the patience nor the tolerance for stress for it. If others have a different view and different priorities, fair play to them.
@psiloiordinary
Жыл бұрын
I just wish they would stop subsidising the oil companies that are destroying the climate. Personal choice also sometimes has to be limited if it’s hurting others but of course we need the capacity to give everyone an alternative first. In the meantime: churn out those greenhouse gases! :-)
@WestfieldFreshAir
Жыл бұрын
Recharging every 100 miles just doesn't work for us. Too much faff. I'll stick with my current 450 mile towing range.
@philpoole5670
Жыл бұрын
Great to see all options BUT…. No one has done a full review on a family of 4 with an EV towing a caravan lets say Staffordshire to Cornwall for a fortnight holiday this would a real and complete test of how practical an EV is compared to a diesel engine
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
I get your point, but a family to Cornwall is just one demographic of a diverse church. Maybe I shall try it some time but no, Phil, I'm not taking your kids away for you! ;@)
@AvantionTour
Жыл бұрын
What an outstanding weather! Love it! 😢😢😢
@maureenclayton8554
Жыл бұрын
Oh Andrew ! I'm one of those girls that likes to pump gas and go. I have a Holden Spark, the smallest Holden, my foot print is not bad. Lots of rain for your boys and you. Loved it even though.😊
@GaetanHobby
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting review Andrew and beautifull caravan 👍😉
@askingforafriend6778
Ай бұрын
One year on and EV's are going only one way. Extinction. 33p per mile at a supercharger station and now cataclysmic depreciation and I mean cataclysmic. Two year old £70k plus EV's only fetching £25k - £30k. I sold my EV and went back to diesel but have now bought a Hybrid which suits our needs for my wife's work. We no longer caravan so don't need a big tug but an EV for towing is absolutely not the right choice.
@G-AWNA
Жыл бұрын
How are Dougal and Ted getting along?
@petesig93
10 ай бұрын
How do you manage to tow and handle such a large caravan with your EV6? Where I live the EV6 is only rated to tow a total (braked) load of 1600 kg and I would wager that Altea Dart is well over that weight, even when empty. I now have a Hyundai Ioniq 6 RWD and it is rated to tow 1500 kg braked load. I find that almost ALL caravans on the market will exceed my legal tow-limit and only the smallest of the Avan range of collapsible camper-trailers will be legally OK. I will probably have to resort to a nice tear-drop 'van' which has the kitchen in the back (outside) and have to use add-on annexes for exterior room in cooler weather. At least this smaller profile van with its 800 kg empty weight will be a LOT lighter on the energy consumption and much easier to manoeuvre and man-handle. Fascinated to hear what the UK towing load limits and rules are.
@scenicdti
Жыл бұрын
Cant wait till you get to do an Eriba Troll like mine, as 1400kg mtplm. I found a noticable difference compared to a previous similar weight Bailey with my fossil fuel vehicle, so as you say aerodynamics a big factor.
@erinmcgrathejm4985
Жыл бұрын
So nice to see Dougal really taking to Ted! ❤️
@jamesw7786
Жыл бұрын
Interesting point about the aero impact vs weight. Makes we wonder how much effect a camping trailer would effect EV range, being not only much lighter, but also more aerodynamic. We are tent campers, with an Ansemms GT500 VT1 trailer. It’s not easy to find any real world data about what kind of efficiency / range hit to expect. Our EV cannot tow so can’t experiment, we keep a back up ICE just for towing.
@andyemmpee3037
11 ай бұрын
Just seen this, love the anti EV people adding to your channel. Now an EV owner here but have a MH too. May try to charge the EV via the MH hookup. Interesting re cl's with chargers, better than £9 per night extra for 10amp snail charging via c&m club.
@TranceElbow
Жыл бұрын
Excellent work Andrew. No one else is reviewing larger caravans being towed by EV’s. I’m currently towing my Bailey Ranger 460/2 (approx 1200kg) with a PHEV. The Caravan Club having been giving confusing info out regarding charging on site. At first they charged £3 p/night for PHEVs and £9 for EVs. Next visit they got confused and didn’t charge me anything. Then they decided it was a flat rate of £9 even for PHEVs, which for my 12Kw battery in more than petrol so I don’t bother at all. Dedicated charging points that you pay per Kw, like you showed is the best way forward I think. Keep up the good work 👍🏻😎
@Wofl01
8 ай бұрын
Ok consider you have Holidays for 3 Weeks and you whant to go to the south of Europe, distance depending but estimate 1200miles. You could Drive 131miles on one charge. Well thats going to be a nice vacation just driving, because when you arrive at the Site you can immediatly leave to be Home in time.
@neilbirch8431
Жыл бұрын
Great Vid! I would love an EV to tow my van, I have got a 2016 Leaf as my daily run around and love it. Unfortunately, there is no way I could afford a new one to tow. The prices of new cars (not just Evs) are ridiculous, I would be paying another mortgage per month for the privilege. When did new car ownership become the preserve of the wealthy?! (Rant over)
@petesig93
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the "irrational haters of EVs" 🤣 I have just taken delivery of the Hyundai Ioniq 6 and we love it.
@zeproo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Adria. Great brand, we had an Adria back in the 80's.
@P00katube
Жыл бұрын
Adria needs to open up shop in The USA!!!!!
@Elizabeth-rq1vi
Жыл бұрын
I gotta comment that I absolutely love that European trailers/caravans (love that term!) have understated graphics on them. North American (read US built) ones seem to think “more is better” and splash giant stupid swooshes all over them. You also have brighter interiors & believe in windows💞.
@Sabumnim666
Жыл бұрын
So you call 1500kg enormous, how would you get on towing an average Australian van at 2500kg and quite often well above that very common to see 3000kg to 3500kg vans. Even the large electric trucks towing 3000kg with much larger batteries than your only manage about 80 miles before looking to recharge, yet they well quite easily get 250miles not towing. When tested at lesser loads the range is in between proving the amount of weight does have a direct impact. Simple physics you cannot move more weight with the same power usage.
@jonowilson5302
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, informative and entertaining. On the subject of aero efficiency, try the extreme by towing a normal trailer loaded with with sand/soil/bricks etc. to simulate the 1.5T with the smallest aero profile...would be very interested to see how much this would prove your point.
@philmarwood69
Жыл бұрын
Its a shame the sites don't have a standard 30amp hookup as they do here in north America. They dont charge extra here or so ive been told by people who sleep in their ev cars at sites when they're on a road trip, multiple 30amp outlet on power posts. Below is a copy & paste. If there are RV hookups, you can likely get a full charge on your EV overnight. Traveling this way is so much simpler than tracking down the nearest charger and waiting 30 to 60 minutes for a fast charge. Virtually all EVs come with a charger that will work in the RV park.
@mev202
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the comments of "there are no chargers." From people who don't own an EV. I always compare it to people who wear glasses know where their nearest opticians are. People who don't wear glasses will have to look it up. It is NO different to the very the rare occasion I have to use public charging, people with EVs know where the chargers are. There are now over 40000 public chargers in the UK (more than there are petrol stations) year on year there are 70% more fast chargers. Go on Zap Map or a better route planner and educate yourselves, stop using the daily mail to tell you things.
@gavinnorthants
Жыл бұрын
EV have proven their worth. Battery size will increase, and cost will fall. Also infrastructure, such as charging will become the norm. Especially when there is money to be made.
@CDConsulting
Ай бұрын
Uk is mostly flat, how would it be if you would driven on hilly side like let's say Türkiye or Greece?
@G55-j9z
6 ай бұрын
That is a Honking Big Caravan for any vehicle to tow never mind an EV,, Having the V2L is a Game changer I don't drive one but I see how they are going to change how we do things and the bigger the batteries get the better off we will be, I love these series of video's and watch them over and over, Thanks Andrew for all the effort you put in to them.
@steventostevin3085
Жыл бұрын
This car is about £50 .000 I love EVs but I cant afford the car But I cant afford a new car eather. I tow with an xTrail. Second hand and 16 years old.
@markpullinger3916
Жыл бұрын
Another good video Andrew But all this charging it’s just to stress full even though it is well priced keep them coming
@InverJaze
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this information I never realized just how much more expensive they are to run compared to diesel cars.
@michaelstanley3961
10 ай бұрын
I have an EV for around town a little VW, but use my landrover for towing the van, my big worry was range but also how do it Charge while travelling without having to un hitch, not ready to go the whole hog yet.
@vincentmeier
9 ай бұрын
Nice, I love to know more about towing a caravan and what app do you use for UK campsites that have the charing a E.V.
@MrBrooksonTour
Жыл бұрын
Neighbours sold there tycan as not enough high powered chargers around. When on a 300 mile journey wife was pestered while charging people kept asking how long she would be, and queue for ages.
@chriscurwen3059
Жыл бұрын
For instance, can you do a 'warts and all' tour of the Hebrides starting from London with the EV6 and the Adria?
@avidviewer1
Жыл бұрын
Really interesting episode, Andrew. Thanks! Ted seems to be growing up so quickly!
@salan3
Жыл бұрын
It is great that there are EV's that can tow vans now. Unfortunately £50K+ for a car to do so is way beyond my means. I understand some people can afford such money and spend similar amounts on vans. Not me I a afraid. also as a minor detail I would not be able to get into the EV6 but that is due to being disabled
@andykoldy8696
Жыл бұрын
Not EV hater but to buy the EV you have to pay 90% more than combustion engine, the range is 3 times shorter with caravan than without and charging time and availability becomes a problem.
@andythemad01
Жыл бұрын
While I am not a fan of EVs it was interesting to see that 1 of the larger caravans can be towed by an EV. Being both a Navara owner and an Adria owner I will still with my oil burner until I am either forced into an EV or the whole world EV is not the answer to everything and look to convert existing IC Engines to run on alternative, renewable fuels and let people make the choice.
@richard3004
Жыл бұрын
Good video but not for me, nothing against Andrew or his videos, been a long term subscriber but won’t be going down the EV route, seems a lot of faffing about, each time you get to a relatively close site car needs not far off a full recharge, which either takes 5 hours on the 1 charger they have or two days on a 13a plug. As I am I could put that same caravan on back of me diesel Range Rover and on full tank go 400 miles then takes less than ten mins to refuel for another 400 miles.
@psiloiordinary
Жыл бұрын
I agree that the weather and wind in particular is the big impact on range. Getting between 2 and 1.7 m/kWh with Tesla model y and 1500 kg Elddis affinity 550. Been on camc c site this week. Car filled up while I slept Total cost for 140 mile round trip of just under £5. It’s great to see the lack of fact checking by the ev sceptics. Keep up the good work.
@stockcroft
Жыл бұрын
We are considering a Model Y. Presumably you had the hitch option on purchase - would be interested to know if that option comes with the associated electrics for towing (including running fridge etc).
@psiloiordinary
Жыл бұрын
@@stockcroft its got the full electrics in the tow bar. At the moment the axillary pins are not powered. A fix is in the works and will be free when available but no time frame as yet. It does power all running lights but not the fridge or anything else running on aux - i.e. back up camera on van.
@muteposting
Жыл бұрын
@@stockcroft Model Y was high on my list but the auxiliary electric issue was a concern given Tesla’s attitude to functionality and there was very mixed messages about when or even IF a solution was expected. As I was taking the car on a 4-year scheme I didn’t want to end up without ATC should Tesla do a Tesla so I ended up opting for an EV6
@DennisBell-dbn
Жыл бұрын
As it seems to be the frontal area of a caravan that affects the range of an EV (or the range of an ICE vehicle) rather than the weight, I wonder if we'll see more people using a trailer tent or folding caravan. At least for towing behind people's first EV. After that, they will see it isn't an issue.
@waynehobbs5175
Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks Andrew. 100% correct that aerodynamics play the biggest role in consumption and another point is that this is exacerbated as travelling speed increases.
@markbradbury6076
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right about aero-dynamics. A freind of mine tows with a Vauxhall Vivaro van and he says the fuel consumption difference is minimal. The frontal area of the Vivaro is similar to the caravan so theres no additional aero penalty. Acceleration is more costly, but once upto speed it pretty much the same as driving solo. Try and stick to motorways and fast dual carriageways so you can stay at a constant speed, even if it means going a little further out the way. Comfort, wear and tear and economy all benefit.
@donnajohnson9324
8 ай бұрын
I really, really love for you to come to Australia and travel, all around Australia with a electric car and towing a caravan ❤❤❤🎉 every travel to Uluru in the electric car 😅😂
@John-se7rc
Жыл бұрын
How will gypsies charge them in the middle of a field or on the grass verge near roundabouts.
@christianmarler21
Жыл бұрын
Andrew thanks for a very informative video, worth mentioning that you can get 13amp charges which make quite a bit of difference to charging time and that your charger can charge at 10,8 and 6 amps when you temporarily need more power for the caravan !
@birdingbilly
Жыл бұрын
13 amp chargers are not legal in the UK
@christianmarler21
Жыл бұрын
@@birdingbilly interesting! I’ve own EV’s that come with 13 amp charger and at work we’ve LEVC vans which come with 13 amp chargers! 3000 watts is better then 2.2kw at times! They have thermal monitoring on the plugs! Strange that they are illegal!
@birdingbilly
Жыл бұрын
@@christianmarler21 A domestic (can't comment on what you have at work) 13 amp socket is not suitable for sustained 13 amp use, this is why normal granny chargers only run at 10 amp ( I know "some/chinese" chargers can be switched to 13 amp but they should not) . You certainly would not want to run a sustained 13 amp load through caravan wiring, it is just not designed for it. If you want to go above 10 amp you should have a 16 or 32 commando socket installed with appropriate wiring. Ironically if you could plug in directly to the EHU on a site that would be fine but most campsites will not allow it ( for good reason). And as aside the idea of turning down a granny charger to say 6 amps often won't work either as many EVs will simply not charge at anything less than 8 amps and even at 8 amps the charging losses are so high it is barely worth it. If EV vanning is the future sites are going to have to make proper provision (and soon) as mass use of granny chargers is just not a sensible solution.
@leecromer3289
Жыл бұрын
…so an extra £18.00 for two nights charging on a camping and caravan site…
@nealeburgess6756
Жыл бұрын
Intersting. Looks like we went to the same school Andrew! What a shame about the weather. It looked like the ducks you pictured were happy. I have been enjoying some lovely sunny weather for the last month or so here on the Costa Del Sol. Looking forward to a motorcycling trip in May/June through Spain, France, England and Scotland. Hopefully I won't have too much weather for ducks then.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
You're a 'Woody'? ;)
@darrenwilson8042
Жыл бұрын
I don't hate EV's Andrew I just do not think they are an answer for the needs of most motorists for many reasons in their current format - and the charging infrastructure when measured against the Govt declared aims is frankly laughable - it requires a level of investment that they do not want to acknowledge
@roberttaylor7551
Жыл бұрын
But where are the wife and kids in the car making the real world miles and car heavy as thats what most people will be doing
@hungryboy424
Жыл бұрын
Amazed to see it can tow such a large unit !
@iandavies1591
Жыл бұрын
And things will only get better too!
@GeertKnaapen
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos! As an ev driver with a caravan it's both very informational and entertaining 😊
@acceleratedriving
7 ай бұрын
How do charge EV at services etc. I understand you’ll need to unhitch. Park the caravan. What a chore? Tried the ev6. Love it but a bit too low for my creaky back so looking at suv. Renault scenic looks ok for towing capacity and good range. Do you have figures for impact of range when towing your regular caravan ( ours is 1050kg Elddis Xplore 304 se), so should be similar. Thanks. Just subscribed.
@andrewjditton
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub. There is a ton of info in the EV videos playlist on my channel. Happy viewing :)
@nealeTH
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your assessment if more aerodynamic caravans. Thought you might be interested in the stats I am getting with my EV towing. We met at the October NEC show after one if your talks. My setup - EV6, rear wheel drive. Eriba Troll (the largest of the Eribas with a weight of 1400kg though I tend to tow with 1300kg). Stats from my most recent trip, 5 April 2023 Newbury to the New Forest. Just 54.5 miles. Around 75% motorway and fast A dual carriageway. 25% regular A roads. A34 from Newbury is undulating hills but nothing major. But not flat either. I drive in the left lane with the flow of lorries so between 50 and 60 mph. Easter traffic on the regular roads so bit of bumper to bumper crawling traffic at the beginning and end. 30mph on regular roads otherwise. Weather was 11 degrees, a bit of rain, no wind. So not optimum but not bad. Stats: Set off with 100% charge Arrived with 74% charge Car reports back 2.6miles/kWh This translates to 200 miles range
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
WOW! Very interesting thanks Neale. Can't wait to give it a go. Cheers.
@flyinghedgehog3833
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant my two pet hates rolled into one lol.flogging a dead horse !
@greengecko1876
Жыл бұрын
Andrew, as ever a wonderful report. I can’t wait to get our EV and caravan together
@stevefarrimond
Жыл бұрын
We went Ev really early (2014) and went back to ICE. An Ev is a better vehicle, smoother no gearbox, loads of power. The range wasn’t even really the issue. The problem was the chargers were often not where you needed them to be and when you got to them you could end up queueing up or the charger not working. I know there’s more chargers now but 50p/kw ouch.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
And 50p/kWh is now cheap... we were paying 65-75p last week :(
@sliderkim1
Жыл бұрын
Nice video but but ridiculous. By that I mean can the average person afford it. I have just looked on the KIA web-site and the EV6 starts at 62k that's a lot more than a normal car. Take the extra the car cost then see what the running costs are. Then there's the caravan at around 30k. I certainly couldn't afford 92k.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
I paid under £45k for my EV6. Have a look around some camp sites and you'll see many £100k+ outfits. I think the same as you about houses!
@johnsutherland4615
Жыл бұрын
Off on our first EV tow at the end of the month. ID4 Pro Performance with an Eriba Triton 430... looking forward to it, and thanks for your informational and inspiring videos!
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Will be interested to hear how you get on, you should get a better mi/kWh return with the Eriba. Enjoy!
@jbf5117
Жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@CanadianCampaholic
Жыл бұрын
Your comment about aerodynamics is spot on. I live in Canada and tow a 2800lb trailer with a V6 petrol minivan. Weight is not an issue, but if I get a strong headwind performance is abysmal. Not surprised the same is true with EVs.
@johndavies1872
Жыл бұрын
Statfold would model Railway show would have been interesting. I was working at my mother's and could hear all the trains. Chuffing and sounding their whistles
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
It was a great day out! Thanks for watching.
@anneshirley1748
Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, missed you again! If you don't tell me beforehand, I can't come to tea can I?!! I know, it's probably the reason you don't!! Anyway, shame about the weather but it's that time of year isn't it? Looks a lovely van, looking forward to your adventures with the boys! Dougal took centre stage before but now it looks like Ted is muscling in and taking top billing!! Never mind, I'm sure you don't mind either! Oh, mum celebrated her 91st birthday Thursday! So happy she managed to see it! Take care, love and hugs xxx 😘🥰🐶🐕
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Sadly I was on a mega-tight schedule Anne...
@anneshirley1748
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewjditton Mmmm...... But I could have brought Holly to meet Ted & Dougal! Me too!!❤
@T-Mary76
Жыл бұрын
Ted is so cute! Looking forward to seeing more of that caravan.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@bordersw1239
Жыл бұрын
Seem to remember back in the late 70’s, some tow cars were using roof mounted spoilers to lower the drag when towing. Not sure if they worked but caravan design needs to change - they are now 50% heavier than 30 years ago.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Yes and yes!
@totaltouring829
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Don’t laugh, Q, Can these EVs be charged with a power bank.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
I'm not laughing! I think you *can* get emergency power banks for them, but I know nothing about them I'm afraid. I can't imagine they are lightweight!
@DavidHedison-d9b
Жыл бұрын
I thought the video was good, But if you were to do the same journey without stopping at the CL site am I right in there isn't enough battery charge to complete the trip. The motorway services are nearly all hopeless, As someone else mentioned you need to remove your caravan first, Nine times out of ten that would mean backing into a bay if there's one available. Motorway service areas need to put the charger in front of the caravan only bay, Someone needs to make this happen. How is your caravan insured if not attached to your tow vehicle? Some are going to go missing. Not to mention lorries using these bays as there's a shortage for them to park.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I've covered all this in previous videos, do please check them out. Cheers.
@Smith_Tech_70
Жыл бұрын
This is great, thanks Andrew. I was thinking of taking out the caravan with my i4, prior to our August break, just to see what efficiency I get. Our caravan is an Elddis Avante 574, at a max of 1460kg. Well inside the i4 1600kg limit. So seeing as the i4 is a similar size and efficiency to the EV6, I know I will get around the 1.6 m/kWh mark. I have already broken my planned trip to Cornwall into 3 chargin stops, 90 miles apart, so that should be ideal, and leave around 15% to 20% at each stop, after the initial 100% starting charge, and 80% therafter. 2 out of the 3 charging stops should be easy, for un-coupling the caravan etc, but the Gloucester Services, has the dreaded one-way system. Meaning, that after charging the car, I would have to make a quick dash, the wrong way, for about 50m, to get back to the caravan area. Alternatively, I would have to drag the caravan into the main carpark, and try to find a place to tuck it out of the way. I have contacted Gloucester Services, and suggested a very small layout change, that would include the addition of a very small, one-way link road, from the main carpark, back through to the caravan area. Literally, a 10m or less stretch of hardcore, or tarmac, with an arrow on the floor. I got a response to say they had passed my email onto their "team" and would get back to me shortly. That was 3 weeks ago, and after 2 more nudges, I still have had no response. Services will have to do much better than this for us EV Caravaners.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Nick, and well done for being proactive. If enough of us start nagging... ;)
@Smith_Tech_70
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewjditton Hi Andrew, I did a 50 mile test run a few weeks ago, from Stoke to Derby and back on the A50. I averaged 1.7 m/kWh in the i4. So I'm happy with that. The biggest problem I'll have going to Cornwall is the lack motorway services with chargers over 150kW, that fall into the 90 - 100 mile range I'll have, leaving 10%. Gloucester only has 3 50kW gridserv, and one was out of action the last time I checked. Collumpton, near Exeter has 6 350kWh Ionity, which will be fantastic, and then I'll have to use a 150kW Shell recharge at Penhale on the A30 in Cornwall. It's tricky having to look on the satellite image to see if there is room to abandon the caravan at these locations. I emailed Gloucester to suggest a small alteration to their one-way system, that would allow charged cars to get back to the caravan area, without abusing the one way. They said they would look into it, but have not. Further emails have been ignored. With the Gloucester stop, it may be quicker if I leave the wife and daughter with the caravan at the services, and drive to a 150kW BP Pulse 4 miles away. But to get back to the southbound services, I will need to go north on the M5 up to the next junction, and then back down again. Total charge detour of 12 miles. So that will be a 6 mile hit on my existing charge on arrival, and then a nother 6 mile hit from my 80% refill. Trying not to stress about it too much. Thanks for all your good info so far.
@stevezodiac491
Жыл бұрын
90% of the power used whilst driving is used to push a vehicle through the air. Friction, weight and terrain amongst smaller things take up the other 10%.
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Can't wait to put this to the test.
@EricPalmer-b6l
Жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you. Just curious, does the ABS and anti snake work on the caravan when you are towing? TIA
@andrewjditton
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if by 'ABS' you mean ATC (Automatic Trailer Control)? That's the system where if a wobble is detected, the caravan brakes briefly apply automatically. This caravan does not have that system. But the AKS hitch helps dampen out any instability. However, NO correctly loaded caravan travelling at safe speeds is unstable, the most important thing is to get the basics right. Thanks for watching!
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