reason to support small bands that actually play and sing live
@mikeskinner45
25 күн бұрын
I play in a 4 piece local band. Everything is live. We wouldn't have the first idea of how to use auto-tune-or any of the other fake crap.
@53lyric1
25 күн бұрын
I prefer live music. Give me cozy...then again, we always need a peek behind the curtain in an arena to see what some production company has cooked up for us.🤭
@samhugh4965
25 күн бұрын
Shoutout to older, big bands that still do it completely live, like Bon Jovi. It was apparent in 2022 that Jon was having problems with his voice, which led to vocal cord surgery. He’s absolutely adamant about not using any technology to pitch correct, live or in studio. Bon Jovi just released an album, unbeknown to me. A song came over the radio that caught my attention because being that it was on a top 40 pop station, I found it very different than what’s normally played, and liked it immediately. After listening to a few more bars, I told my husband that it sounded like Bon Jovi, but couldn’t be. I looked at the screen, and sure enough, Bon Jovi. Apparently surgery and rehab was a success, and it still sounds like Jon, but his voice doesn’t have the same power. Hoping over time, it’ll continue to improve.
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
Amen!
@jeffreyfeinstein5525
25 күн бұрын
@@mikeskinner45 Not to minimize anything else but, "beautiful voice"! And innerstanding of each song!
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
Oh so that’s why they rehearse using the pre-recorded pitch corrected vocal so that they can get the miming right. We’re living in an artificial world.
@324cmac
25 күн бұрын
Actually, we've been lied to for centuries too.
@earlgrey691
25 күн бұрын
A ''holographic' one say some.
@glasswingbutterfly
25 күн бұрын
Just wait for AI to really get rolling
@jeffreyfeinstein5525
25 күн бұрын
@@earlgrey691There could be a holographic @Fil in the future. But, will they ever conceive of the unique ways in which he's brought us together!?
@philippevandenberghe5839
25 күн бұрын
Our technology is slowly replacing us. Is that what evolution is about?
@threeofive9401
25 күн бұрын
I can assure you that not everyone knows that performances are mimed and/or pitch corrected. In fact, not everyone, and I'm not sure that the majority of people know that singing recordings are pitch corrected. I told someone that and they were shocked. It took about five minutes of explaining and at times _reexplaining_ what singing recordings are these days. There was a "no, there is no Santa Claus" reaction. And I still wasn't sure there was 100% belief.
@whatevergoesforme5129
25 күн бұрын
I agree. I was watching a kpop group and it was clearly mimed because I caught one forgetting to sing his line while making a fancy dance move, but their fans in the comments section kept saying how good this group was in singing live and without any issues of shaky vocals while dancing because they were trained so well LOL. Of course, it goes without saying that the sound was also pitch corrected.
@ionutcostea6332
25 күн бұрын
@@whatevergoesforme5129is it BTS? Just asking...
@lizatsurkan4323
25 күн бұрын
The “everybody” being referred to there is actually the stans ( yeah they shouldn’t have used the word everybody)
@tarantellalarouge7632
25 күн бұрын
I don't have so much skills in musical technique but after one minute in the "performance" of Yseult I knew it was lip syncing because she didn't do it in a pristine way, it was obvious when they filmed her close up on her face ..... but I was asking myself why she was putting her hand on her ear if lip syncing, but I think that it was to hear the recording track ! My favorite version of "My Way" is by Sid Vicious !
@forgetfulme1719
25 күн бұрын
agree, must lobby law changes to stop these deceptive practices, forewarn listeners if they are paying for non real time, auto tuned or AI voice...
@Terri_MacKay
25 күн бұрын
I watched this video with my daughter, and as soon as she started singing, we started laughing because it suddenly sounded like she was alone in a room, absolutely no ambient sound, and I'm glad you pointed that out as well. It sounded so ridiculously obvious, how could everyone watching not have picked up on that? And we both cringed at that first pitch corrected note...there was nothing subtle about that. We loved the analogy, but felt really bad for Frank Sinatra, the archer. He definitely got ripped off. We both really enjoyed this one. And, of course, we amused ourselves for about 10 minutes afterwards, trying to make the "fffffffff" sound with our mouths open. We took thst as a challenge.😂😂
@flazeda8743
25 күн бұрын
I felt sorry for claude François who sung the first version of the song... Ironically it's a french song she cheated with as a french artist there to honor french culture.
@tarantellalarouge7632
25 күн бұрын
@@flazeda8743 Il a même écrit les paroles (avec l'aide d'un ou deux copains !). La meilleure version est quand même celle de Sid Vicious.
@robhulluk
21 күн бұрын
The people at the event watching live would hear the crowd noise, it's only if you were watching it on TV you wouldn't hear the crowd noise.
@Terri_MacKay
21 күн бұрын
@@robhulluk I meant anyone watching on TV, or watching a video afterwards. It sounds so strange that there's absolute silence except for the vocals and instruments.
@mvuorsalo82
25 күн бұрын
When watching this closing ceremony on TV, I said right away to my wife, "This is NOT live at all!"
@voraciousfescue444
25 күн бұрын
being late when miming is common because a lot of people don't know the mouth shapes happen just before the sound. I used to work as an animator and when doing lip-syncing of the characters to the dialogue, the mouth shapes were placed on the sound, and then the completed sequence would be pulled back couple of frames to create a more accurate illusion.
@clairesteer8120
25 күн бұрын
Interesting! Thanks.
@timl.b.2095
15 күн бұрын
Fascinating.
@a9ball1
25 күн бұрын
Older person here. I remember back in the 70's and 80's i didn't like to go to live concerts because they didn't sound like the album. Funny how things change.
@blahmcblahface3965
2 күн бұрын
I used to complain too...that's not how it goes! But now i appreciate the difference on live tracks,,I realise the band must get bored doing the same thing each night...they wanna mix it up a bit different each time after a while
@banaabekwegirl5731
25 күн бұрын
Dear Fil, I want to thank you for being so passionate about truth-telling and discernment in music. I grew up with a dad and older sister who loved, loved, Loved to discuss music. We spent hours on it, often while on long road trips. They both died young, and when I miss them, I often turn on your channel. They'd have loved you. And I am so thankful for what you do - between you and Rick Beato, I feel like I'm at least not all alone. Such a delight to watch and listen to you. I agree, today's music is far too mechanical and soulless. This version of 'My Way' is a prime example of the empty technical theatrics that passes for great singing these days. Girl has a voice, but she's not singing TO and FOR the people, is she?
@lewislopez518
25 күн бұрын
Any wind or string player learns to play using "just intonation" i.e. the natural harmonic series where 3rds are slightly flat and 5ths are slightly sharp. This is what is pleasing to our ears. Snapping every pitch right to a line is using Equal Temperament - like a piano. As Fil often points out, really fine singers are adjusting to the instruments playing behind them. So when a classic live vocal is not bang on a line, I believe they are not "out of tune" - they are matching the tuning that actually sounds most natural and best to our ears. Pitch correction Loses that.
@philiphumphrey1548
25 күн бұрын
Exactly. Most non electronic instruments are rarely spot on 440hz because they vary with changing temperature and humidity. A pipe organ will be a little bit sharp on a hot day and flat on a cold day because the speed of sound (and therefore the pitch) increases with temperature.
@mattmckeon1688
23 күн бұрын
I was about to post this same comment on another of Fil's videos. Anytime you have instruments playing live where they are harmonising with each other, the note intervals are very unlikely to be equal tempered as it wouldn't sound as 'sweet'. Same goes for vocal harmonies. And guitars aren't always tuned to 440 Hz. At the very least a producer or editor should use their ears when trying to correct an errant note, and they need to hear it in context, I.e. blended with the other notes. This technique makes things worse far more often than it improves anything. Not to mention the hideous overtones and sterile phrasing. I hate it. 😠
@pellier08
25 күн бұрын
It's interesting when you talk about the sound changing from live stadium to pre recorded studio. Because the same happened with the opening ceremony. It was even worse because we could hear the rain for 4hrs on TV but as soon as the performances started there was no more sound of rain! 😅
@gLustig60
25 күн бұрын
Love the irony...she did it "her" way. Clearly, she did it some producer's or producer's assistant's way!
@SandraBonney
25 күн бұрын
I was thinking that also. She sort of did it her way but not really lol
@53lyric1
25 күн бұрын
Hi, Fil. I want to thank you for showing us how we are being tricked by the music industry with all their electronic manipulations. Those who troll you must have an attention deficit or are just here to critique your words instead of the obvious doctoring of the music you're covering. I appreciate you spending your time with us to explain these processes. A grateful fan of yours!
@mightyV444
25 күн бұрын
Those trolls may even be people who _work_ in the Music Industry! 😅
@tarantellalarouge7632
25 күн бұрын
Many people don't know nothing about music and don't have good listening skills, it is because human rely mostly on their view.
@Wurlyscope
25 күн бұрын
Fist sign that confirmed it without a doubt is the way she handle her mike. Soft voice, you bring the microphone closer to your mouth. But when you go full power, you must move the mike a bit further for two reasons. 1st, avoid clipping and distortion and 2nd, the feedback send to the musicians’s ear piece would make them bleed! I used to work in tv studios in the 90’s located in Montreal Quebec. I worked for 2 french network and every musical shows made in french where and still are live or live recorded. In Quebec we praised the fact that our musicians and signers can perform live. From time to time, we had some European guests and many signers from France just refused to sing live, claiming that it would destroy their images if their songs were to be reproduced live. That it would destroy the argument of the fortunes spent on their long studio recording sessions. In fact at the time, there was no live performance in France. It was all lip sync. When European signers insisted on doing lip sync, the orchestras were leaving the studios during the dub because: 1: our musicians didn’t wanted to look stupid. 2: they had contracts to play music, not lip sync. Nowadays, there is more live performances in France and Europe because more artists understands the magic of it. Thank you for your good videos.
@briankocheraabcdt4628
25 күн бұрын
Have you worked with Lara Fabian. I have seen live performances on KZitem where she's holding the mic at waist level. Does the sound engender ride gain when Lara does that? Shouldn't the audio drop off a bit? To my ears it sounds like it doesn't. Forty years ago we rode gain if a singer habitually or on purpose held the mic away more than the normal average distance.
@Wurlyscope
25 күн бұрын
@@briankocheraabcdt4628 Yes Lara Fabian at her debut came to the shows i have been working on and i can guarantee you that, what was heard was live caption. I have worked on « Beau et Chaud » from 1990 to 1992 but not all of them and some on another network. Yess sometimes she momentarily lower the mike quite far and sometimes she only slightly turn her head to the side, but she knows the power of her voice and how to deal with the limitations of microphones. It’s possible that the sound engineer had to adjust her sound level though. The microphones used for live shows are not as sensitive as studio’s ones so they catch less ambiant noise. She was really a nice lady too. She knew early on that the technical team was there to make her shine, not all stars got that.
@wisdomelves5838
24 күн бұрын
@@briankocheraabcdt4628Lara Fabian and Lady Gaga are the real deals period!
@TruthSurge
25 күн бұрын
1:21 that note functions as (or IS) the major 3rd of the key they are in. AS SUCH, being slightly flat of 440 is absolutely BANG ON for sounding great because mother nature creates the major third FLAT of equal temperament and the math blends better if the maj 3rd is slightly flat over any of the 3 major chords in a given key. So, that note was absolutely perfect because that's where a maj 3rd SHOULD BE if your instrument is not a fixed-note instrument such as piano or guitar etc. So, that has nothing to do with anything except whoever played that note (strings most likely) damn well knew what they were doing and the graph proves that. So, whenever you see a consistently flat note like that, ask yourself if that note is the maj 3rd. If it IS, it's gold. If it is NOT, then it's just out of tune. Nice catch on the timbre changing in the music and ALSO, no one is going to be THAT relaxed and perfect in THAT setting. Just the calmness and softness of that vocal screams STUDIOOOOOO. But the rich world owners have been deceiving people forever in order to gain advantages. Nothing new.
@bryonyloader5242
25 күн бұрын
It's about time the music industry fessed up
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
Right after the politicians do I guess
@GorgeGeorg
25 күн бұрын
@@universalassociates6857 Yes, they'll all be dancing on the ice in Hell by that time.
@irishis25
25 күн бұрын
😊😊@@universalassociates6857
@jaxvier809
23 күн бұрын
Help yall are so pressed it's so funny😭😭🙏🙏
@carlomatthews6676
25 күн бұрын
Thank you Fil. This is such a disgrace. They're killing Art, Artistry, and Authenticity and don't give a toss.
@vernonharden
25 күн бұрын
Now it's all abut the shake (a term used by carneys for money) the companies makes.
@Mark-cq1mo
25 күн бұрын
I'm glad I grew up in an era before the music industry became the musical equivalent of a shopping mall filled with chain stores.
@robdee9341
25 күн бұрын
@@Mark-cq1mo Me too 👍
@Andrei-sg7lu
25 күн бұрын
Are you mad that movies are overdubbed or created with special effects? Are you mad that actors do multiple takes and use stunt doubles? Why do you hold pop singers to a different standard?
@AkatarawaJapan
25 күн бұрын
@@Andrei-sg7luNot mad at all. Just looking forward to seeing credits roll at the end of each ‘live’ concert: Pre-recorded at Studio X, Pitch correction by Person Y, Mime choreography by Person Z, etc.
@brovold72
25 күн бұрын
The switch to studio-recording is as hilariously obvious as the last scene of "Life of Brian" except that transition was *meant* to be funny.
@a9ball1
25 күн бұрын
I don't remember that. Now I'm going to watch it again.
@DonnaleaSpencer
25 күн бұрын
There's so much miming going on in performances today that if Marcel Marceau were alive, he'd be a top vocalist.
@SueTube7
20 күн бұрын
😂
@timl.b.2095
15 күн бұрын
🤣
@DawnDavidson
14 күн бұрын
There’s precedent for that! After all, his was far and away the best vocal performance in Mel Brooks’ “Silent Movie.” 😂😂🤣
@mysteryteacher9
25 күн бұрын
You can hear the switch and a slight change in pitch too, even without headphones.. 😅
@margaretlawlor1632
25 күн бұрын
Your channel is so good and informative FIL THANK YOU
@kristyallmon3873
25 күн бұрын
It stands out when they drag it to the note because it’s actually robotic sounding…. And it’s offputting
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
Oh so that’s why they rehearse using the pre-recorded pitch corrected vocal so that they can get the miming right. We’re living in an artificial world.
@philiphumphrey1548
25 күн бұрын
Funny how no one asked the public. I'm sure most people would choose to hear a live performance with all the errors and slips. Classical musicians performs live and sometimes it goes wrong, that's part of the occasion.
@elizabethmiller7291
25 күн бұрын
On the contrary, a live performance by a great singer is replete with all of the sharps and flats and microtones that give that great voice its expression and personality - I don't consider those errors or slips, at all! The errors enter the equation when a great singer's natural voice is digitally manipulated and CHANGED into something that it is not.
@visaman
25 күн бұрын
Orchestras play to a click track, so everyone is literally on the same page.
@visaman
25 күн бұрын
@elizabethmiller7291 errors if they forget tge words or lose the melody.
@DanielSong39
21 күн бұрын
@@visaman I've gone to several classical music orchestral performances and they are undoubtedly live
@Elaela_87
25 күн бұрын
The disclaimer at the beginning is harsh but necessary. Finally, live music has become a museum piece. They pursue a perfection so sterilr that they're taking the magic out of everything
@veramilton833
25 күн бұрын
LOL, Fil...Spoiler Alert 😅 right away!!! OMG! I noticed the timing issues immediately! You are teaching us so much! I am now able to hear pitch correction in most cases! I can definitely hear auto tune now! Keep on doing what you do! Teach us ,Fil! Great analysis video and fun to see you laugh a bit! Well done, Fil 💜 👏
@123Rockchild
25 күн бұрын
Being a Frank Sinatra fan, I would rather just hear a recording of Frank singing his signature song.
@doubleohdutch2108
25 күн бұрын
Same here. He would say “auto tune? Hold my whiskey. Actually, don’t, pour me another one.” And he would still nail it.
@123Rockchild
25 күн бұрын
@@doubleohdutch2108 Right on! 👍
@Resgerr
25 күн бұрын
@@doubleohdutch2108even with a cold and a bucket on his head!😂
@margelacosse6502
25 күн бұрын
The frustration singers feel when they try to sound like this naturally and can't.
@elizabethmiller7291
25 күн бұрын
Why would any great singer want to sound like THIS!? I mean, seriously...
@ManuelaOliveiraMusic
3 күн бұрын
@@elizabethmiller7291because the public got accustomed to this and now people think that you have to be impossibly flawless to be a good singer.
@justaguy12345
25 күн бұрын
I watched some of the closing cerenomy. They had a piano player suspended from the roof, vertically. But then they showed a closeup of his hands while he was playing and the notes did not match the notes we were hearing. Why even bother?
@anngulliver5964
25 күн бұрын
It's all about the performance and the spectacle in the opening and closing ceremonies. The games themselves are supposed to be genuine, but wait, will they ever be drug free? I was recently looking at the detection of performance enhancing drugs across all historical Olympic games and London 2012 has had so many athletes who have tested positive for Peds years after. The testers are always behind the cheats. At the time Marion Jones managed to get away with it in Sydney 2000 because the testers had nothing to test for all of the drugs she was taking. The East Germans all still hold their medals despite it being proven in a German court that all of their athletes were systematically doped. Many of them were children and didn't even know at the time. Marita Koch's 400m in 47 seconds has never been matched in nearly 40 years. Flo Jo's 100m in 10:47 seconds and her 200m world record still stands. She was 28 when she smashed these world records, after her times vastly improved. Her muscles got bigger and her voice deepened. She retired just after the IOC announced out of competition testing.
@danbardos3498
25 күн бұрын
Lying for lying's sake.
@Mark-cq1mo
25 күн бұрын
PEDs are pretty much everywhere in the athletic world, even among social media influences. As one long-time pro trainer of the stars said, "If you get caught either you're an idiot, or they had it in for you."
@DanielSong39
21 күн бұрын
@@anngulliver5964 The events themselves are rigged too LOL
@W0rdsandMus1c
25 күн бұрын
I remember watching Pebble Mill a daytime programme in the 80s, Gene Pitney was on supposed to be live and he was waiting for his cue while the recording was playing, he obviously couldn't hear it but the viewers could, that was early to middle 80s, so this has been going on for a long time with very famous people.
@paulwhiston1836
25 күн бұрын
@@W0rdsandMus1c I still remember it happening to All About Eve on some daytime TV show with "Martha's Harbour" but with a lot of TV shows they actually prefer the artists not to perform live as it gives the production crew more control over the finished product
@dancelover020
25 күн бұрын
Back then most artists had to play back on tv shows though, but those artits COULD, if asked, sing live.
@robdee9341
24 күн бұрын
@W0rdsandMus1c Also with Fergal Sharky singing on an aeroplane ..
@jeffsframe9927
25 күн бұрын
Thank you for your continued commitment to comment on pitch correction and the musical dishonesty of the business 👏👏👏. I don’t think anyone else is doing that !
@lindadescafano3749
25 күн бұрын
I like Frank Sinatra's version. Thanks Fil for pointing this out. 😊🎸🎵
@earlgrey691
25 күн бұрын
Only his version will do.
@TheFtm22
25 күн бұрын
The movie "Singin' in the Rain" presented this idea when there were movie actors and actresses were dubbed by other real people. The final act makes a mockery of the whole thing. So I definitely want to know when such things are happening.
@biale190
25 күн бұрын
(I’m French) Yseult’s best quality is that she knows how to put vulnerability and emotions in a song - Pitch correcting her performance thus undermines her ability to connect with the audience ; that’s really frustrating…
@elizabethmiller7291
25 күн бұрын
Yes and your comment gets to the crux of the matter - we are being deprived of the pleasure of connecting with a beautiful song by not being allowed to hear a great natural voice every time pitch correction and autotune is used on a great singer's voice. And, yet, we just accept it and don't do much to fight back. Are we ready for a revolution!?
@roman424242
25 күн бұрын
Just wait a couple of years from now, they'll be intentionaly spoil vocals to be more "authentic" or to meet new fashion. I'm pretty shure about it. This is madness.
@johnsurrey7426
25 күн бұрын
You are so right! Probably less than two years - maybe even now… Just chuck some AI at a track, not to get it more in tune, but to make it more ‘realistic’. I’m thinking of things like The Rolling Stones ‘live’ - why bother to re-record/add instruments when you can shove it through AI without any of the Stones having to move from their wheelchairs. In fact, why bother to go on tour at all, when you can send out 3D clones with AI. In fact, why should any human make music now? If you feed a singer’s vocal patterns into a computer, AI can reproduce the imperfections perfectly!
@fromchomleystreet
25 күн бұрын
In a sense, that’s already happened. The main reason autotune has gone out of fashion, to be replaced by melodyne is because autotune was so blatantly obvious, and doing it manually can leave just enough natural pitch variation to fool people.
@tomk9798
24 күн бұрын
taylor swift is already doing this with her pre-recorded tracks on the eras tour
@scalzmoney
25 күн бұрын
See if this resonates with anyone else. These performances and the way they are praised are like if I was a famous chef who got rave reviews but I was actually bringing in take-out from a local restaurant. Also, that 'run' at the end sounded almost like T-Pain. 🤣
@lizettec1622
25 күн бұрын
I'm old enough to remember when the good bands played and sang live. There was no pitch correction. You could really tell who the good singers were. And who the real musicians were...Miming was for performers who couldn't cut it live and we used to laugh at them for pretending to sing and play. Times haves really changed !
@samhugh4965
25 күн бұрын
Case in point: Bon Jovi. Jon insists on doing it all live, and in 2022 it was evident there was something wrong with his voice. His wife even told him he sounded bad. He ended up having vocal cord surgery. Apparently, with age, vocal cords can atrophy, which is what happened to Jon. After surgery and lots of rehab, he sounds much better, though not exactly where he used to be and maybe never will be.
@theyouofyesterday6254
24 күн бұрын
Loads of bands still do play live - check out more independent bands in smaller venues, even in pubs, and you'll probably see some really great live music! 😊
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
When I mention to people that many modern ‘live’ performances are pre-recorded and pitch corrected and the performers are miming, my experience is that based on their reactions, people generally don’t know and even when I tell them they don’t really care that much. But I do.
@user-ys1jq6kr8z
25 күн бұрын
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
@DerekADempsey
25 күн бұрын
My wife and I watched this clip because I’m a huge Sinatra fan and I love this song (originally a French song). The first thing I said to my wife was “do you notice there is no connection with the singer and the crowd?” So that’s that explained, thanks. Fil. Sinatra never mimed, it was just not an option for the likes of him. Only on a few rare occasions did he sing to previously recorded tracks, Watertown being one of those albums. I thought this singer sounded like a lot of the new batch of ‘whisper singers,, even though she hit some nice sounding higher register notes near the end. Though Fil is at the helm of the battle against fake singing, I think we have lost the battle. I sing five shows a week now New York City and I have taken to promoting my shows as having no autotune, no AI, and no pitch correction. Sad. Lastly, I predict that Fil will get a cease and desist soon from lawyers acting on behalf of the industry. I hope I’m wrong.
@gabygeretschlaeger
25 күн бұрын
Just discovered your channel recently (like, three days ago) but have already learned so much! I appreciate the work you do to show us this - I don't watch an awful lot of "live" performances, even on TV, but when I do, very often I've felt something is off.
@clutischannel
25 күн бұрын
Imagine olímpic games were edited to look perfect and erease the mistakes of the contestants. It will be like using autotune in the voice
@dovydas4483
25 күн бұрын
Music isnt a sport tho
@Psalm1267
25 күн бұрын
@clutischannel That's coming.
@victoriafisher1923
25 күн бұрын
@@dovydas4483 No, but it is is something some people take equivalent amounts of time to learn to do, and take similar amounts of pride in. Classical singers will have begun music lessons as children and studied or practiced intensively through high school if not beyond to learn their craft. There is competitive music in the classical world and if it's mic'd it's certainly live because the whole point is to show off your skill, not to leave that to someone in a booth. I don't think classical singers are annoyed that other singers are taking shortcuts, but it's kind of like comparing WWF to Olympic wrestling. Sure, WWF performers have certain skills, but they're not equivalent athletes. When people listen to something like this and they're like "wow, that's better than Sinatra", that's not fair. It's not the same "sport".
@heartstringssound-Doug
25 күн бұрын
I know I don't comment enough but love your candid analysis... Always! You Rock!
@Mark-cq1mo
25 күн бұрын
"Modern singers give mimes a bad name." - Marcel Marceau
@stephennowicki7158
24 күн бұрын
I studied music in the early 70s and I never saw this being done 😅
@glasswingbutterfly
25 күн бұрын
Thanks Fil for another great analysis video. 🎼🎶
@JulesUS8386
25 күн бұрын
Holy 🐄! What was she trying to accomplish at the end…even in the studio that was bad! Let me hear the human’s real voice ANYTIME!!! Even if they hit notes out of tune now and then. If the vocalist is sick and has no voice, bring in the mime…. Or bring in another HUMAN who can do what our vocals really do! Not a producer selecting parts of the vocalist’s voice. If this vocalist is well, let her sing her natural voice!!! Human vocal cords are not perfect, but we love hearing them. The backing track pitch correction is as good as the producer’s ears which may be blown💥👂 Pitch correction three times in a row, it breaks my ears…it’s not right. Thanks Fil
@misswendy7298
25 күн бұрын
Thank you for another excellent analysis video.🎼🎵🎶
@MiBackpacking
25 күн бұрын
The archery metaphor was a perfect way to explain autotune and pitch correction vs skill and training Fil
@StevenBLevy
25 күн бұрын
The Sinatra comparison is interesting. He was a great singer, but he was not particularly pitch-accurate... which is part of what made his performances so emotionally laden.
@visaman
25 күн бұрын
He was deaf in his right ear.
@vjc812
25 күн бұрын
You have no idea how much your honesty is appreciated Phil and yes, everything is fake and it does take a luster off of it. How could you praise the human being for singing like that when a machine is really fixing it keep up the great work must be frustrating for you Since you adhere truthfully to your craft… I wouldn’t blame you if you said that your stomach turns upside down when you hear these kinds of things… Peace, brother
@CanonessEllinor
24 күн бұрын
Even my mom, who to this day denies that Celine Dion wasn’t singing live, could immediately tell that this was playback.
@christineteffenhart5722
25 күн бұрын
Keep up the good work. I'm learning alot.
@janicesmith2475
25 күн бұрын
“A lot” is two words.
@universalassociates6857
25 күн бұрын
Cheaters are not gonna tell you I’m gonna go cheat now rather they’re gonna cheat and hope you don’t find out
@quailstudios
25 күн бұрын
We really appreciate your videos Fil and that you're telling the truth about these performances.
@123Rockchild
25 күн бұрын
Wow, I really hate the way she sang those ending notes. It sounded strange to me. 😱
@marclarcher7908
25 күн бұрын
Another excellent video. 🙏🙏🙏 Folks, go to the opera house, we always sing live (and no microphones in a real opera house!)
@janedmunds4218
25 күн бұрын
I guess the artist singing Imagine floating on a boat down the Seine with the flaming piano wasn't live either? 😆 Thanks for your work, Fil. Interesting and thought provoking
@Annie.C.61
25 күн бұрын
I'm more concerned about the band, Gojira, who accompanied her. They are brilliant and I've seen them live. I'll be gutted if that was mimed but I guess so😞
@petedavid9946
25 күн бұрын
Nailed it again Fil. I appreciate your objective description and analysis of the video.
@axxeman2002
25 күн бұрын
I have friends that attended the Eagles concerts in Manchester, recently, who refuse to accept that Henley was miming despite me showing them your analysis videos. There's none so deaf as those that don't want to hear!
@andrewturner5710
25 күн бұрын
I can't believe anyone would consider this urban yodeling better than Sinatra!
@janicesmith2475
25 күн бұрын
Urban yodeling - that’s priceless! 😂
@heysolley
25 күн бұрын
No human being believes that.
@cedartree816
25 күн бұрын
spot on.
@user-ys1jq6kr8z
25 күн бұрын
@@heysolley There's certainly no shortage of _human beings_ that believe Kamala Harris to be Constitutionally Eligible to the Office she currently inhabits _illegitimately_ as well as the Office to which she now grotesquely aspires jus sanguinis
@jeffreyfeinstein5525
25 күн бұрын
...friend was at one of his last shows. He literally couldn't sing anymore. They all applauded. The more @Sinatra kept trying the louder the crowd applauded and screamed affirmations!
@gazncoll
25 күн бұрын
Yes Fil, spot on about the breathing! The editing from the multiple comp-takes has occasionally 'sliced' the take too close to the vocal entry and consequently the edit has cut out the initial 'breath' before the voice comes in. This slicing or editing is evident because the isolated vocal demonstrates only OCCASIONAL breathing before a sung phrase and other times there is no audible breath taken prior to a phrase. If this was live vocal, you would almost certainly hear the singer's 'breath' come in prior to any sung lines most of the time. (especially once the vocal was isolated)
@markkinnish1196
25 күн бұрын
Great update as always Fil
@UserNameWasCensored
24 күн бұрын
At least I'm not the only (relatively young) man raising his fist to the clouds in frustration. One of the best sites on KZitem!
@rainerwaansinn
24 күн бұрын
Totally agree but don't forget RICK BEATO!
@UserNameWasCensored
24 күн бұрын
@@rainerwaansinn I think RB is great (bought the package for my godson). My only critique is that he's been more of an interviewer these past few years. I want to see more of "What makes this song great"...
@zephyrbear
25 күн бұрын
I am beginning to hate this pitch correction and autotuning with a passion. I too have sung all my life but I've never attained fame or fortune from it, I just enjoyed it... however, I do like attending live shows of those who have. I'm now a pensioner and ticket prices are, sadly, now beyond my limited means, but if I were to lay out a lot of money to see somebody perform live I would be very pissed off if I then found out they were miming to a backing track, even if it was recorded by them! It is deception of the worst kind and they're making a mint from it paid for by people who could possibly not afford it in the first place. I hate liars and that, at the end of the day, is exactly what these people are!
@TroyArchAngel
25 күн бұрын
well said!!
@chrst7346
25 күн бұрын
well, then, you should turn your interest towards classical singing, I am (not) afraid to say so… 😊 no mics there, people that are able to fill big halls and even in the last row you might be able to hear them breathing. There are also a bunch of really good pop a cappella groups. If your take only small interest in that typer have a try and look up VOCES8 … 😊
@samhugh4965
25 күн бұрын
Exactly. My daughter is going to Justin Timberlake and I said great! Just know that what you hear isn’t real.
@TroyArchAngel
25 күн бұрын
@@samhugh4965 Well you should tell your daughter to spend her money wisely I would say. Or if you have actually paid for it.
@chrst7346
25 күн бұрын
well, then, you should turn your interest towards classical singing, I am (not) afraid to say so… no mics there, people that are able to fill big halls and even in the last row you might be able to hear them breathing. There are also a bunch of really good pop a cappella groups. If your take only small interest in that typer have a try and look up VOCES8 …
@allonewordcaps
25 күн бұрын
Great video. As always I learn a lot
@dmcarp2807
25 күн бұрын
Just with the multiple issues found with the pre-recording, a live vocal performance seemed preferable.
@rossprairietraveler974
25 күн бұрын
So, my question is....through the years....has it been normal for entertainers to sing live at these sort of things? I've mostly expected entertainers to mime at things like Olympic opening and closing. Of course, the editing is something else. I'm old enough to remember most performances on TV being mimed. Bandstand, Soultrain, most entertainment specials and shows.
@flazeda8743
25 күн бұрын
Lady Gaga does a lot of these big events and she's live but overall yeah they often lip it...
@chris-4566
25 күн бұрын
The more obvious example of somebody miming is when the singer moves the mic away from their mouth, while singing, and the volume stays the same. Keep up the good work Fil.
@andreamiller3578
25 күн бұрын
While not pitch corrected, i do think miming to prerecorded tracks has been around for a very long time. Checkbout some old American Bandstand episodes. Example: Either The Fleetwoods are singing live to their music track and are actually trailing awkwardly off at the end of Come Softly to Me or they're just miming the entire thing. There are many performances on shows like American Bandstand like this. So none of this surprises me. The pitch correction is just a new annoying addition. However, unlike now, we knew those old groups could really sing and did sing live in concert and without pitch correction.
@bobturnley2787
25 күн бұрын
Bands mimed on TV shows like Bandstand and Ed Sullivan and Midnight Special when there was no way they could sound as good as their HIt Record. At the Olympics, there is no Hit Record to mime to. It's all done to appear Live. They pre-recorded a performance and then used that to mime on television. Not the same.
@Spo-Dee-O-Dee
25 күн бұрын
@@bobturnley2787 Midnight Special was live, and that was the selling point. Most, but not all, of Don Kirchner's Rock Concert was as well, but those were the exceptions. The West German show Beat Club also did live performances during some years, but not others.
@bobturnley2787
25 күн бұрын
@@Spo-Dee-O-Dee If you think every performance on Midnight Special was Live, you haven't seen enough of the show. There are dozens of full episodes on YT. At least 10% of the performances I've seen were mimed.
@Spo-Dee-O-Dee
25 күн бұрын
@@bobturnley2787 90% live is still far more than you would get from other shows. Also, some performances may have been dubbed later in the syndication run.
@bobturnley2787
25 күн бұрын
@@Spo-Dee-O-Dee Music on the late night Talk Shows was always 100% Live. Midnight Special has never been syndicated.
@loriholloway5866
25 күн бұрын
💥💥I hope you see this, Fil. I've searched high and low online to hear YOU perform!!! Help a girl out!!! From a HUGE fan from the huge state of Texas. You're adorable ❤
@wingsofpegasus
24 күн бұрын
wingsofpegasus.com/music
@frankgustafson1905
25 күн бұрын
Great video Fil. I learn something new with every one of theses video's you bring us. Thanks so much for sharing. 👍😃
@larry4111
25 күн бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing. Someone somewhere is saying, "Maybe we need to put a note on the screen saying "previously recorded audio'." It will happen. Don't stop.
@atreb56
25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I could hear and see that this wasn't right. I'm glad I have my old recordings. But now I will have to be careful not to buy re-releases or remasters.😂
@MexicoDigDoctor
24 күн бұрын
I'm no fabulous musician, but I always learn something from you. I would definitely rather hear the truth. you are a great guy
@wingsofpegasus
24 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@kathrynambler1658
25 күн бұрын
For me the worst thing about auto tune is how awful it makes the vibrato sound. Well it's not the absolute worst thing. The absolute worst thing is that it is being used at all. Now that it has been pointed out to me I can't unhear it
@RoxRolzProductions
24 күн бұрын
Been watching for years, love your analysis.
@wingsofpegasus
24 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@marcocatano554
25 күн бұрын
I was thinking of what your reaction would be last sunday hehehehe! Cheers!
@324cmac
25 күн бұрын
And another thing. I'm just going to say (as someone who grew up on Frank Sinatra singing this song) there is not enough emotion, and possibly not enough life experience, for this singer to really do this song justice. It's not one of my favorite songs but it's meaningless without the lyrics being felt by the vocalist.
@AnjektusStudio
25 күн бұрын
Well! When the artist has been pith corrected so have the artist a hard time sing whit emotions. As a lot of the emotion dissaper during this process.
@AH-st1my
25 күн бұрын
Fil, as soon I watched part of the closing ceremonies, I couldn't wait for your analysis video to come out. I have yet to watch your video, but if I was a betting man. I'd bet the farm it was lip synced at best.
@darrenkoglin3423
25 күн бұрын
What we have now in the music industry is GARBAGE
@SimonJM
25 күн бұрын
Didn't see any of the event, but have to say those seemed to be some damned quiet fireworks going off at the end there! 🤣
@chrisvanderhoof9990
17 күн бұрын
Thank you again Fil for another great job. You crack me up!!
@2pidtoo
25 күн бұрын
Oh the irony of miming a pitch corrected version of "My Way".
@anthonyclarke5579
25 күн бұрын
Oh you are a cruel task master, its wonderful to hear your analysis. Vocal calisthenics or Milli Vanilli anyone? Whoa!
@glengrant3884
25 күн бұрын
GREAT WORK FIL!!💥💪 SHINE BRIGHT 💥🙌 AUSTRALIA!!🤍💙❤️👊
@Davetv1121
25 күн бұрын
It was Memorex
@mightyV444
25 күн бұрын
🎵"...I did it MY way"🎵 - No, lady; You did NOT! 😅
@travelsaddict8952
25 күн бұрын
I would say no it wasn't and now having said that I'm gonna listen to your analysis.
@hiddentreasure1
25 күн бұрын
It was a live performance but not a live singing. And now, I'm going to watch the video.
@CaptainBakerJason
25 күн бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real, Fil. Spot on analysis, as always. 🙏
@xmaseveeve5259
25 күн бұрын
@@hiddentreasure1 By a 'singer'.
@flazeda8743
25 күн бұрын
@@xmaseveeve5259She's actually a good live singer but she either wanted to play it safe there... Or rather probably, was pushed by the organizers to cheat for "safety" with the 2 billion persons watching. 😅
@xmaseveeve5259
25 күн бұрын
@@flazeda8743 I don't agree.
@LOL-Can
25 күн бұрын
Thank you Fil for another excellent, clear analysis. Good luck with the trolls. Lol
@michaelmckenna6464
23 күн бұрын
Yseault’s rendition of “My Way” was absolutely perfect, (actually it was really a little TOO perfect). Thank you for the interesting analysis. Keep ‘em coming!
@sarahshaw-sehgal1146
25 күн бұрын
Your videos have taught me so much 😭 I had no idea it was to this extent….
@barbaramay1866
24 күн бұрын
Hi Fil! Judy Collins Judy Collins Judy Collins, Judy Collins. 💕 You are such a great teacher.
@mirtacamara3653
19 күн бұрын
I used to think that autotune was only used for those who are very bad singers, how naive.. You have opened my eyes (and ears) to these nonsensical practices in the music industry. Thank you!
@timetowakeup6302
25 күн бұрын
“It’s all bullshit, and it’s all bad for you.” ~ George Carlin
@fmills1583
24 күн бұрын
Hello Fil of Pegasus. You are the most diplomatic of all music critics on you tube. You gave the only evaluation of Richard Benson that was not belittling and/or tongue in cheek. I am now going to issue you the mother of all challenges. Yes, I am speaking that latest guitar solo of Corey Feldman.
@judyrichards8365
25 күн бұрын
All those people who commented on her performance saying, it gave them chills, made them tear up, best version ever and so on. It didn’t look like any of them caught on. So sad. She is a good singer though, not needing all the fakery.
@realmccoy18
25 күн бұрын
it wasn't live but she did it live on her TikTok account and she can hit every note.
@TombCat
23 күн бұрын
The best version of My Way is by Celine Dion! She sang it LIVE at a family funeral. With only a poorly tuned piano for accompaniment. Gorgeous resonance and the most beautiful intonation and phrasing. Celine's rendition is on You Tube. Celine and Whitney remain the best live vocalists of the last 40 years. People have been miming their hits since American Bandstand and Soul Train. It's nothing new. Karen Carpenter lip synced most of her television appearances and many concerts too. She could sing - but could not reproduce her recorded sound.
@lizatsurkan4323
23 күн бұрын
💯 We are lucky we got to hear both of them before the tools were invented
@strangebrew5545
25 күн бұрын
Thank you Fil ❤
@longcastle4863
24 күн бұрын
Pitch correction is like if when the arrow stuck the target someone were to run over, pull the arrow out, reposition it in the exact center of bullseye, run back and then wait for everyone to applaud. Eventually, no one would care about archery any more.
@cathyshaw-kalloo237
25 күн бұрын
FFS this whole thing is bloody ridiculous. 🤦🏼♀️ and sad and lame. Thanks Fil, for always keeping it real.
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