The purpose for the tortoise is quite simple. For the lols. Also my favorite battle armor is the marauder because its literally just a small Marauder
@SupermarketZombies
Жыл бұрын
It's actually really effective in AS. One variant has 5/5/0 damage. They also have stealth armor
@Accentaur
Жыл бұрын
Every time I see the tortoise, it drives me to ask how someone pilots it. It's so quirky. Agreed on the Marauder though. The Marians really seem to like Marauder-shaped hardware.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
It makes my back hurt to think about someone being inside that thing.
@jasonscarborough94
Жыл бұрын
@@Accentaur Probably lying down head first , which just raises further questions such as "where's the access hatch?" and "do I crawl in head first or do I have to twist around once I'm inside?"
@KingInBlack69
6 ай бұрын
Marauder BA is literally the only good thing to come out of the Marian Hegemony. It’s my favourite too!
@beskar66
Жыл бұрын
MORE WE DEMAND MORE pls
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@sebastiang.5032
Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@Accentaur
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know the IS Standard got an art update. Loving the new look so far. Glad to see the TinStar mentioned on here. It really do have a hat.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
There's a picture of the IS Standard in the IlClan Rec Guide 32 but it's low resolution. I am hoping we see it full size soon.
@Darren_Xero
Жыл бұрын
It looks badass in new art. It would be great if they can be armed with autocannons
@chuckbuck5002
Жыл бұрын
@@Darren_Xero I love the bulky but imposing look so far. I love what catalysts is doing with the new art
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@Darren_Xero It definitely looks better.
@boneshaman8912
Жыл бұрын
It might be the new look in the mercenaries Kickstarter.
@jamesbeard5513
Жыл бұрын
Eh, I give the Tortoise II one point in its favor, it mounts Clan Improved Stealth armor, so it is undetectable by anything without a Bloodhound Active Probe. Not saying it can't be seen, just that you can't know that it is there without actually seeing it, or the Bloodhound, until it fires on you and gives away its position.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
And it has the laugh factor. When it is spotted, you're laughing too hard to aim accurately at it.
@mathewmcgee8029
10 ай бұрын
Like how you said the Fenris borders on Protomech logic, the Tortoise borders on just being a light vehicle or even some sort of Proto-QuadVee.
@MechanicalFrog
10 ай бұрын
We must not say the P-word too often or it will summon the devoted cohort of superfans that demand videos on them.
@A88mph
Жыл бұрын
That last one sounds like a great base-defending ambusher. No one expects a car when attacking the barracks, and a whole squad of them sounds nasty.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I just cannot get past the absurdity of it.
@lebe5894
Жыл бұрын
The tinstar really just looks like its going to say "mi lady".
@Accentaur
Жыл бұрын
"M'pirate." Tips hat with Colonial intent.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
lil bit.
@drewgilbertson
29 күн бұрын
Who designed the Tortoise 2 IRL clearly had a deep love of Rat Trap's techno-organic form from Transformers Beastwars Part 2.
@gryphon3241
Жыл бұрын
Y'know, we (rightfully for the tabletop mind) might have misgivings about battle armor without jump jets, but when you actually think about it irl, 33kph sustained for what is technically an infantryman in multiple hundreds of pounds of armor is blisteringly fast
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Fair.
@tahhotep
Жыл бұрын
faster then usain bolt i think he was like 30 kph
@gryphon3241
Жыл бұрын
@@tahhotep and thats sprints, even usain bolt can't sustain that kinda speed
@bthsr7113
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine an enemy getting hit with a future armor clothesline at 33KPH.
@KingInBlack69
6 ай бұрын
@gryphon3241 does it say anywhere how long folks in battle armor can run?
@bthsr7113
3 ай бұрын
I like the Tin Star, partly because it feels like something we'd at least attempt IRL fairly early into the development of powered combat exoskeletons. Also it's just cool to see heavy weapons akimbo blasting away, even if you'd need rather slow or immobile support to sustain prolonged barrages.
@haileysaint5443
10 ай бұрын
Out of these 4, I have to say that the Tin Star is by far the most interesting; especially as I actually did have a fedora at one point. That Tortoise II on the other hand..... All I can say is that it's time for some turtle soup.
@Yacovo
Жыл бұрын
The Tortoise II reminds me of those dogs without back legs that have wheels attached to their back torsos. They are probably just as mobile when it comes to stairs. A reminder that this battle armor was designed for city fighting, the most stair filled environment you can fight in. Thanks for the video.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it'll be fine. Go full production.
@williamjanak2013
3 ай бұрын
I have always wondered why people didn't use ultralight/security mechs to counter Battle Armor. Fun video as always.
@Darren_Xero
Жыл бұрын
Glad that I picked the Inner Sphere Battle Armor Forcepack from the Mercenaries Kickstarter, cause I'm looking forward to create a Capellan augmented lance/company with squads of IS standard BA
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to painting them up some day.
@PaganPilot
Жыл бұрын
A new fave of my is the Dragoon battle armor as its the BA from Mech Assault 2
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
A fun one, for sure.
@HouseMasterPoDing
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen the Alpha Strike stats for the Tortoise II? The thing is a beast. 5/5/0 with stealth, it's perfect to plot down in a thicket of woods and just deny the enemy that area. They have to take them out fast, else that 5 damage will tear them apart. Tortoise II is a go to BA suit in AS.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Yes I've seen it's a beast.
@gryphon3241
Жыл бұрын
I'ma throw in my vote for more of these, as cool as mechs are i love hearing about the other unit types that make this setting so feckin cool
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely going to do another one. Once people discover how awesome battle armor is on the tabletop, oof... there will be tears.
@codius_dak5095
Жыл бұрын
Tortoise II would make for an interesting support unit for Urbanmechs. Both seem to be designed for ambush. Both seem to be specifically designed for slogging urban combat. Both are expendable-ish. Most Mechwarriors would focus on the Urbies while the Tortoise (Murder Hobo... MurBo) could lay down effective harassing fire. The Potential for periphery shenanigans is just so tempting.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I think the issue with both is that they're very niche concerning where they excel. A more generalist mech/BA is going to be able to do that job, and more.
@codius_dak5095
Жыл бұрын
I whole heartedly agree. But a lot of things in battletech seem to have that underlying cruelty that humans have toward one another. And I always try to see and play battletech more through the lenses of lore than meta. Yeah I would rather have marauder battle armor than tortoise 2, but if I RNG a squad of tortoise then you bet I'm trying to use it to the fullest.
@layne9027
Жыл бұрын
Lol! That tortoise!! I've been really into the se'irim, purifier, Leonidas and tengu armors recently
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Oh nice!
@Ironclockwork
Жыл бұрын
"New Avalon Institute of Science, can we stop and get some Battle Armor?" "We already have Battle Armor at home, sweetie." *The Battle Armor at home:* I found out that the Draconis Combine made a very amusing variant of the IS Standard model in the Dark Age known as the "Baka" that had SRM-2s instead of jumpjets. Whenever the wearer tried to initiate a jump, the HUD would flash the word "stupid" in Japanese on the screen.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like something the Combine would come up with to keep morale from getting dangerously high.
@sim.frischh9781
Жыл бұрын
After the first "must try" video (i watch them literally after each other) i updated my Mech Factory app, since it was outdated. However even with the newest version the Stormbird is not in it, however the Tinstar is, interestingly. And both the Tinstar and the Kalisto are not yet present on Sarna. It´s getting hard to keep up with tech when the available data bases aren´t properly updated. On that i agree, without jump jets the suit better comes with either excellent ground speed or stealth, that would allow it to lay ambushes making for a great defensive unit. Domestic production is definitely preferable, not just does that mean you are independent from outside sources, it also keeps money in you nation and you people employed. The Tortoise to me seems like a case of "trying too hard". Or a "it´s simple to make something complicated, it´s complicated to make something simple".
@troyradford75
Жыл бұрын
I stumbled on the Stormbird after your last video. Great unit if supported right. Keep these coming. They're are a great reference.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Will do. Thanks for watching.
@hatework4282
Жыл бұрын
Im loving this series. I hope the first four, post Revival, Clan suits get their own video.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
We'll see... we'll see...
@kudosbudo
Жыл бұрын
Wish they would redesign the Tortoise to make it roller skate on its wheels upright. Wheeled vehicle that can traverse woods would be nice.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Even a trike would make more sense.
@johnnythompson3734
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing that TRO 3025 on the table.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest.
@Maezhughes
5 ай бұрын
I'm really enjoying learning about all the different battle armor sets in battletech's history. Thanks for the good videos and keep up the good work! Oh, and welcome to the aux
@MechanicalFrog
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for coming by to give the vid a try.
@Maezhughes
5 ай бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog I'm enjoying ur content very much. It's simple yet descriptive. Now I'll admit, I love long form videos cus I can put them on in the background at work and not have to touch anything, but I do like the short videos as well, they're well made.
@BlUsKrEEm
Жыл бұрын
Id love to hear your take in my favorite, the Fa Shi.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
It's on the short list for the future.
@bthsr7113
Жыл бұрын
The Tortoise II. When you get the weakness of both a walker and a wheeled vehicle without either's strengths.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
At least it is good in Alphastrike.
@warlok363
Жыл бұрын
The Tortoise is so powerful in Alpha Strike they had to errata how transports work.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Kablooey.
@warlok363
Жыл бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog had to edit, "errata", as in people would load up a transport with Tortoises and run up to a target unload and have the BA blast it. It's a bit harder to do now post errata
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@warlok363 Well that sounds horrifying.
@aeronnelson8479
Жыл бұрын
Love u to check out the Elemental III, its my go to in the ilclan era and a monster
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Elemental II and III are on the list. They might get something special.
@harvestblades
Жыл бұрын
I actually ordered some IS BA from the KS as I needed to get something that would allow me to select the Blood Asp salvage box. While I haven't used any BA in tabletop yet I do love how Clan Elementals can mount Omnimechs like the Fire Moth allowing the Clans to better utilize combined arms doctrine since for the most part have a very no vehicle bias. Thanks again for these informative videos.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I added a box of IS BA from the kickstarter as well, hoping the quality is better than the clan Elementals. Going that small is tough on their manufacturing process.
@theRemyLuna
Жыл бұрын
I'm very much enjoying this line of videos, keep them up!
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! It's a blast to piece them together.
@KageRyuu6
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the tortoise, wheels are clearly easier to make than legs, but Battle Armor canonically must have legs or else they would be considered micro vehicles instead. To that end, the simple design for the rear wheels, and the traction the front legs provide could perhaps offset the odd aesthetic.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
So perhaps it was a contractual thing where the designers really wanted to cut corners while still technically calling it battle armor and not a vehicle.
@level98bearhuntingarmor
Жыл бұрын
There are some wacky battlearmor (like the horse one)
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@chrisbritt4266
Жыл бұрын
The clan tortoise too looks pretty silly to me don't see much purpose in it. It would have been a lot better. I think to make it more of a heavily armed doing buggy with a couple of crew members with that kind of firepower would probably be a heck of a lot more efficient.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@kierdalemodels
Жыл бұрын
That was excellent!👏👏👏I want some Stormbird armour to add to my Ravens. And I’m glad you put the Tortoise II in. How the hell does that thing get up or down stairs? Lastly: where my 🐴? Please cover the Buraq sometime!🙏
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to get to work on that.
@Ahira01
Жыл бұрын
I hope we get break downs of each house armour designs
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Possible.
@skunxworkshop
Жыл бұрын
This is the first vid of yours I've seen. Fedora Mech looks like its about to solve a crime in the 1940s
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Looks like it has several tough cases open and a drinking problem.
@Bolththrower
Жыл бұрын
Frog, I'd change the videos name to "Must-Try Battle Armor Designs for Your Next Game of Tabletop Battletech part 2" and make is a series. Ther's lot of more coll BA to highlight IMO. And why not later on make same sort of series about ASF, and tanks? Could be a fun occasional series. Also the TinStars "hat" reminds be more of a 60-70's miner hard hat (they did versions that were flat at the top, not only the round version) or if you feel its mroe a hat its not a fedora but whats called a pork pie hat. The Tortoise is nasty used right in tournament play on a small battlefield.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I'm told that videos in series with numbers don't do as well. People don't click on them if they haven't seen the first, and don't bother to hunt down the first.
@Bolththrower
Жыл бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Not sure who's telling you that, but they are most likely wrong and sad. But you do what you feel is best for your channel. I'll keep watching.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@Bolththrower Will do. Thanks for becoming a member.
@DapperRaccoon
Жыл бұрын
The hat you're thinking of is a homberg.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I have the most informative youtube comments section on the site.
@joshuaturnquist5538
Жыл бұрын
In defense of the Tortoise II... well, it looks like one of those Roadster monsters from FF14 I guess. Gorilla dog in the front, wheel in the back.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Business up front, wacky in the back.
@TygerYasha
Жыл бұрын
We need a quote from Vasyl, get his hot take on this topic. :)
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Hah. Yeah he might have an opinion or two on these new toys.
@gregbird5684
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree that turtle thing is just bad i can see it getting Totally stuck in mud or sand . Another quality video Mechwarrior Frog 😊 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah the Tortoise is really baffling...
@georgezwick3717
Жыл бұрын
I hope we cover a top # list of the most obscure or bizarre Battle Armor.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I am not sure I can top the Tortoise II.
@louiswilkins9624
9 ай бұрын
Tin Star has good potential. Gives me ideas
@MechanicalFrog
9 ай бұрын
Sweet.!
@diksbumpkin9708
Жыл бұрын
Tortise 2 looks like Pinky from the old doom movie
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there is a resemblance.
@haligaz9119
Жыл бұрын
Yooooo I loved seeing you in that Hellbringer video!
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Heh, thanks! It was fun to help out. BigRed is good people.
@haligaz9119
Жыл бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog He’s chill. I’m a teeny tiny creator but I wanna start making Battletech/hobby content in general, maybe some day we’ll rub shoulders.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@haligaz9119 Never enough BattleTech content out there.
@vana.johnson8845
Жыл бұрын
Even though Inner sphere battle Armor is woefully inferior. I love the Grey Death Legion Battle Armor they look so Cool. But all of the Clan Armor looks so hard corp. No wonder Com Star thought they were ALIENS.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I've always appreciate the alien-like look that Clan stuff has. Units like the Elemental armor and Marauder IIC (original) are just awesome.
@CoolGuy-th7bl
Жыл бұрын
The Tortoise II is so overpowered in Alpha Strike that it's often banned from tournaments.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
hah.
@michaelkimberling7307
Жыл бұрын
8:10 I bet the designer was watching old westerns. 12:04 this designer was watching that crappy doom movie. It looks like pinky.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@sebastiang.5032
Жыл бұрын
If you'll do a third video on the subject, please give the Sylph, the Kanazuchi and the Infiltrator II "Puma" a good look. 😊
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I will look into them. The Slyph is definitely on the list.
@Direfloof
Жыл бұрын
*a Mech’s cockpit is wrenched open by the awful menacing claws of battle armor* *tips brim of helmet* M’lady…
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Terrifying.
@yecnay25
Жыл бұрын
Now do the Trinity Suits, Ravager, Marauder, and Amazon to complete the Periphery Power Armor sets lol
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
So much to do, so little time.
@yecnay25
Жыл бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog Clone yourself lol
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@yecnay25 If only.
@franksmedley7372
Жыл бұрын
Hello Frog. I agree that the Fronc Reaches are acting rationally in spreading out their production abilities. Especially in the light of the loss of Detroit, and the raid you mentioned. Although the suit has no jump jets, it is still a valuable asset on the battlefield. Once again, especially against such threats as pirate raids. As for the 'abomination'... all I can say is 'Kill It With Fire!'. And to agree that it should have been designed either with four wheels, or four legs. This design, as it stands, is just BAD.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
I'm not totally opposed to battle armor without jump jets. However, there needs to be a very compelling reason to not have them.
@shueyk2320
Жыл бұрын
Try the lbx thunderhawk for some real punch
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a little grapeshot to remind people how things are going to be.
@VectorGhost
Жыл бұрын
Clan aerotech please!
@imjustajanitorbut2399
Жыл бұрын
Second for more about battle armor
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
There will absolutely be another one next week.
@abucket14
Жыл бұрын
I can't defend the design of the Tortoise, but I can explain it; have you seen the disaster that is the fashion industry? Or the lump of Playstation one creativity that is the cybertruck? There has always been unreasonable people with too much money who want a thing the way they imagine it, despite how many engineers, scientists, or people with common sense tell them otherwise Edit: Autocorrect hates me
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Therapist: "The Tortoise II can't harm you" Tortoise II: *Slowly rolling closer in a menacing manner*
@overlord2304
Жыл бұрын
IS THAT A SNOW RAVEN I SEE *racks machinegun*
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
"It's coming right for me!" *blam*
@chrisbritt4266
Жыл бұрын
And if you would pretty please do some more power armor
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
The script for the next one is finished. I will record it tonight and hopefully have it out tomorrow morning.
@sebastiang.5032
Жыл бұрын
More Battle Armors? More. likes!, 👍👍👍👍
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Oh is that the pattern... hmm...
@rednecktek2873
Жыл бұрын
Curious to see what you think of Protomechs. They seemed to be a dead end of mech development.
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Generally, not a fan.
@jasonscarborough94
Жыл бұрын
I think their ok but, a bit underwhelming personally. What really bothers me is their in-universe origin, Smoke Jaguar was one of the more conservative Clans (in regards to Clan ideology) incurring the expense of creating an entirely new warrior sub-caste, new combat vehicle and combat doctrine to address a looming resource/man-power shortage just doesn't sound like them.
@bthsr7113
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonscarborough94 We from what I understand, it's not a new warrior sub caste, it's the underutilized/underrespected aerospace phenotype.
@jasonscarborough94
Жыл бұрын
@@bthsr7113 Fair point, I stand by the rest of my issues with the origin story however
@enddhabzen9278
Жыл бұрын
Krupp BA I think only BA that is artillery
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
Deep down, aren't we all artillery?
@enddhabzen9278
Жыл бұрын
@@MechanicalFrog lol well doing 6 years as an infantrymen in the army I'd say we more are all meat shields lol
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
@@enddhabzen9278 Maybe the real treasure is all the MRE's consumed along the way...
@therakshasan8547
Жыл бұрын
The nonsense train has no brakes. Hehehehe
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
"Choo Choo"
@jacobbronsky464
Жыл бұрын
Are the Trinity and Fa Shih any useful ? They both seem somewhat innovative, but is it just Maskirovka propaganda ?
@MechanicalFrog
Жыл бұрын
The Trinity is interesting but I am bothered by the variants that are ammo dependent. The mines on the Fa Shih could be fun.
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