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@robertjarman3703
Жыл бұрын
I just marathoned Vinland Saga and 37 episodes of it in 36 hours this week up to the end of the second arc, the second being the one focusing on the main protagonist being a slave in Denmark almost exactly 1000 years ago in the Viking era. Racism isn´t a problem but slavery as an idea is more explored. It also provides a good demonstration of why people you might think are relatively enlightened for their day are still very problematic people, and that slavery itself is an inherent flaw no matter if they still have some quality of life by their own efforts like the lack of legal protection they have as legal property. Some masters might be fine with some of their slaves but they don´t have to treat them equally, they can feel possessive of some slaves to the point of active jealousy and believing that they are owed things from them that they aren´t. It´s a very good show if you ever wanted to see for yourself.
@robertjarman3703
Жыл бұрын
Oh, and it does a lot to humanize slaves. It even shows one of the slave women who was separated from her husband in a war, him being captured separately and sold to different people, and when she finds him again, she immediately calls him husband, even though she herself is often used as a sex slave, the focus isn´t on anything of tarnishing or denial of her ability to still love people who mattered to her, and their drive to find their child again.
@Purple_694
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter who was it’s first practitioner. It doesn’t matter who did and didn’t condemn it. What matters is that slavery is a terrible thing, and we should all be against it. We shouldn’t try to support the confederacy, or any slave owning state for that matter, because they may or may not have treated slaves better. People need to stop trying to believe this falsity that slavery wasn’t all that bad, or that since everyone else did it, it was ok. Simply put, it never was, never has been, and never will be. I certainly hope one day, we will live in a world where that is the case.
@konstantinosnikolakakis8125
Жыл бұрын
Just note I haven’t watched the full video yet, but I’d like to say that in my experience, the first argument is generally used to counter the proponents of critical race theory who believe that whites are collectively responsable for the slave trade and that blacks are collectively innocent. Also, you’re sure that there are some people who think that Africans weren’t involved? I’d wager that most people in the United States think that Africans weren’t involved.
@landonmarcovici8799
Жыл бұрын
@BrandonF I really cannot wait until the Founding father argument. How does one juxtapose the fact that the founding fathers did incredible good (that is at least my opinion) for the world while acknowledging the elephant in the room that they were slaver holders. (I think that is the argument, do I misunderstand?)
@TayTayMakesBeats
Жыл бұрын
Pro tip: you'll never find the dumbest pro-slavery argument. They've had hundreds of years to refine their craft and at this point there are too many beautifully stupid contenders to sort through. Give em all participation medals, preferably made of lead.
@woaddragon
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholicno, he not, TAytaymakebeat know exactly what he is talking about
@em-qz3em
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholic 🤡
@woaddragon
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholic he is objectively correct
@omidm.935
Жыл бұрын
How about a ceremonial goblet made of lead?
@calvinpell1738
Жыл бұрын
@@omidm.935and one that is very flaky and rusty at that
@rileyernst9086
Жыл бұрын
'Slavery is bad.' "Yeah but African people had slaves too." 'Yeah, and that was bad too.'
@Aristocraticgobo
Жыл бұрын
yeah i dont get why people always throw this out i think its mostly people who have white persecution persepectives "stop saying all white people are bad the africans did it to see were not evil YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE YOU DUMB WOKE LIERAL" something like that i think (the last part was a bit exagerated)
@ofHerWord
Жыл бұрын
No. That makes it GOOD! Imagine lol?
@thewekender2701
Жыл бұрын
Argument totally destroyed 🤯
@lelduck6388
Жыл бұрын
“But the black people sold their own to the white people.” “And that was also bad.”
@ThommyofThenn
Жыл бұрын
I find people like that always fall back into the whataboutism as if that is a worthwhile response
@FrankSinatraTheSecond
Жыл бұрын
This channel is older than the Confederacy 💀
@SimonDubois52
Жыл бұрын
Brandon is now my heritage. 🫡
@MikaelKKarlsson
Жыл бұрын
Rest assured there will be historical reenactments.
@michaireneuszjakubowski5289
Жыл бұрын
@@MikaelKKarlsson So reenactments of reenactments? Will there be reenactments of reenactments of reenactments, and so on, or does the recursion stop at some point?
@aribantala
Жыл бұрын
@@MikaelKKarlssonI'll take dibs on re-enacting Brandon re-enacting being Military-disciplined and had to chew on one of his coat's loose button
@dylankornberg4892
Жыл бұрын
Strongest burn the rebs have gotten since Atlanta.
@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW
Жыл бұрын
"If slavery returned, crime would drop significantly" If Crimes were legal, crime would drop significantly
@Antwannnn
Жыл бұрын
its funny how that racist notion doesnt even take into account the history of police in America in the first place. Or just the history of the jail system in America. Reagan did a number
@lieutenantoin929
Жыл бұрын
Modern american prison system is already slavery basically. Once you commercialize prisons you will find any excuse to get more people imprisoned...
@mistahgamer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, saying that crime would go down because black people are being subjugated is definitely one of the takes of all time.
@imacds
Жыл бұрын
Crime would definitely increase. The majority of the population would be abolitionist and would commit property crimes against slaveholders.
@Dokataa
Жыл бұрын
“If we put everyone in jail crime would go down” no shit
@lynxfirenze4994
Жыл бұрын
My response to the "it was part of the human experience for thousands of years" was honestly "So was Smallpox"
@artsman412
Жыл бұрын
So is murder, or rape, or poverty, or cancer. Plenty of horrible things have been part of the human experience; the reason is the human experience is broken. I don't see anyone lining up to defend those things, so why is this one so hard to grasp?
@ShankarSivarajan
Жыл бұрын
@@artsman412 Many defend both death and taxes, evils at least as great as any you list. Some of those arguments might apply to your stuff.
@lynxfirenze4994
Жыл бұрын
@@ShankarSivarajan death and taxes don't remotely equate to anyone but the most brain fried
@aribantala
Жыл бұрын
@@EvsEntps "Glorification of war"... the time where he clearly told that Musketry is dangerous endeavour, Marching is insanely arduous, Weather, sickness and Low provision will more likely to kill you and Executions in war should never be romanticized... Very glorious indeed
@nobleradical2158
Жыл бұрын
@@ShankarSivarajandeath is unavoidable. No one defends it. Taxes aren’t inherently evil.
@Jekyllstein_Gray
Жыл бұрын
"It was the 19th century, nobody knew it was bad!" Yeah, except for John Brown, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, the enslaved persons themselves, all the Union soldiers who didn't really think about slavery and saw the horrors for the first time during the American Civil War, and so on and so on and so on...
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
Жыл бұрын
And the little detail that the US was among the last states to abolished in the Americas
@brianstabile165
Жыл бұрын
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777I feel like i need to argue but then I realize I can only think of Brazil
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
Жыл бұрын
@@brianstabile165 And Cuba
@henriquepacheco7473
Жыл бұрын
@@brianstabile165 Brazil and Cuba, that's about it, and both of them were arguably even more dependent on slavery on an economic level than the US south.
@ohmygoditisspider7953
Жыл бұрын
John Brown is the best american. up there with smedley butler. we should aspire to be half as great.
@UnbornHeretic
Жыл бұрын
The first argument is like saying, "It's okay to have this girl as a slave because a woman sold her to me!"
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
Which they actually think is ok, they bring it up all the time
@danielomar9712
Жыл бұрын
No you see guys ! It's progressive slavery ! 😮
@UnbornHeretic
Жыл бұрын
@@danielomar9712 well spoken, el presidente
@ThePieMaster219
Жыл бұрын
-Jeffrey Epstein about Ghislane Maxwell, probably
@filmandfirearms
Жыл бұрын
That's not the argument at all. It's like you've never listened to western media and seen people promoting collective white guilt for slavery or racism, while ignoring that every other society on earth had institutional slavery at some point. Some still do, but they aren't in Europe
@Corium1
Жыл бұрын
I think a issue with American politics is there is a lot of people who make arguments in bad faith. they don't go into debates wanting to potentially change their mind.
@zombieoverlord5173
Жыл бұрын
Bad faith and many arguing are just uninformed completely on the history
@stevecooper7883
Жыл бұрын
Turns out the point of argument is not to change the mind of you opponent, but to belittle their position so others reading won't side with it.
@killerkraut9179
Жыл бұрын
@@stevecooper7883 exactly! atleast in debattes!
@ZackShark1
Жыл бұрын
God bless not-america
@narcosis929
Жыл бұрын
Spot on! IMO it’s the whole problem with modern political discourse.
@Inerrant1
Жыл бұрын
Everytime someone says "Nobody thought slavery was evil back then!" to justify slavery, I always have to ask... What do you think the slaves think of slavery? Do you think it was normal and acceptable to them? Do their opinions not matter? In every society that has had slavery throughout history, there have been abolitionists within that society.
@usecode___7453
Жыл бұрын
Its also very telling that they must not have considered the enslaved's opinion when they say smth like that. Reveals they view slaves as slaves and not human people with a real life real thoughts and feelings. It portrays a deep lack of empathy.
@sundancetitan5675
Жыл бұрын
Not even a great argument for the American civil war as a lot of major European poweres had outlawed slavery by the 1860s
@laughingseagull000
Жыл бұрын
There have been a lot of abolitionists through history, but to be fair, didn’t a lot of slaves in ancient times think that slavery was part of the natural order and they were just unlucky? I know a lot of former slaves bought slaves, themselves. I’m not a Lost Causer, I just don’t want people to get the false impression that 18th/19th century Abolitionism was an opinion that existed everywhere throughout history.
@grutsthefoodman3645
Жыл бұрын
@@laughingseagull000it depends on which civilization really.
@Dewkeeper
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, nothing guarantees those people weren't okay with enslaving others for their own benefit. Normality and social acceptability are not necessarily in line with whether you think a given set of atrocities (e.g. the enslavement of YOUR people) is just. All that said... That in no way helps the actual argument they're making because generally speaking if most everyone agrees something happening to themselves is terrible and unacceptable... Then maybe just maybe everyone should just agree to stop everyone else from engaging in the practice... One might even be tempted to call it a (gasp) moral imperative...
@TurtleChad1
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely don't understand how people are willing to publicly defend slavery.
@flaviocubas2003
Жыл бұрын
Or at all, really
@kieranadamson3224
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is a non-political, non-partisan issue. It's just plain and simply evil to enslave people.
@akdele5
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the US is a crazy place. Especially the prison ones
@robertjarman3703
Жыл бұрын
It´s a great way to make people who own them richer.
@voswouter87
Жыл бұрын
Nobody does that, that's why he won't show the actual arguments. They're refuting the dominant progressive worldview that the only ones ever to blame for slavery are white Christians.
@stilgar2007
Жыл бұрын
Okay everybody, say it with me, "Just because somebody is selling people, it is never okay to buy people, under any circumstances. People involved in slavery are evil, no exceptions. No, put your hand down, this is not a discussion."
@CorwinFound
Жыл бұрын
I would say the _action_ is evil. The evilness of those people involved varied. I don't say this to provide cover for enslavers or any people who do horrible things. Rather when we demonize people with a broad brush of "they were evil" it blinds us to the fact that road to evil actions and just as importantly the acceptance of evil actions is nuanced. It makes it harder for us to spot when we imagine that evil doers are obvious, single-faceted, and in all ways contemptible.
@jensphiliphohmann1876
Жыл бұрын
You can be involved in slavery just by coincidence, e.g. by inheriting slaves. It might be possible to simply free them but this might be prevented or at least impeded by law, and the slaves _might be_ better off with you as their master who can protect them if necessary than being on their own. George Washington was such a case. Eventually he testamentary freed his slaves who then adopted his surname.
@CorwinFound
Жыл бұрын
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 George Washington did NOT free his slaves on his death. In fact, they passed on to his wife who also didn't free them. The Washington's had an enslaved person run away and they spent years in efforts to get her back. Wonderfully, they never succeeded and she lived a long, successful and FREE life... no thanks at all to the Washingtons.
@CowMaster9001
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if buying child porn was illegal but the people actually making it faced 0 moral or legal consequences.... 😂
@lukebytes5366
Жыл бұрын
Without discussions slavery would be just as popular today, understand that.
@Cybermat47
Жыл бұрын
American slavery was wrong. ‘But Africans enslaved people too!’ That was wrong too. ‘But slavery existed in the ancient world, look at Rome!’ That was wrong too. ‘But slavery still exists today!’ That is wrong too.
@alecjoncas7764
Жыл бұрын
That’s not the point though😂😂they say that in response to ppl saying “white ppl are the devil, white ppl have never been enslaved, we need reparations” don’t act like you don’t know that
@tadferd4340
Жыл бұрын
@@alecjoncas7764 Reparations are owed because of the systemic disadvantages afflicted on black people since slavery. You're an idiot.
@lexxon11
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@lukasg4807
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but there are a ridiculous amount of people who act like Americans are the only ones to ever have slaves and single the American slave market out. People making the first point in this video aren't arguing against slavery bad, they're arguing against a suprisingly large amount of people who think slavery = America. It's like if people acted like only one side used chemical warfare in ww1 and constantly said "the french were so evil to use poison gas"
@Mr.Monacle
Жыл бұрын
@lukasg4807 Could it be because those people are... *American* and therefore the *American slave trade* may have had ripple effects that directly impact them? It's not super useful for America to reflect on how the policies of various African nations have impacted those various nations when America has their own policy issues to sort out. Now, is it? Pointing out that other nations did bad too doesn't, in any way, help solve the issues that people are usually attempting to address when bringing up the American slave trade. Your argument is like complaining that the families of the victims of a serial killer never talk about how a different serial killer did bad stuff, too. It's a completely asinine and, quite frankly, kind of offensive ploy to silence those who have very real grievances about our history and how that history has impacted us today. Editing this in: it's not that you don't have a valid point about how other colonial nations kind of just... ignore their own history of human rights violations to point at America and go "Wow, look at them, they're so racist", but the context of this discussion completely changes the meaning of that argument. It's exactly the same as people who talk about "all lives matter" in response to BLM. Yes, that is true and a valid point, but given it is being held in *opposition* to BLM, it kind of becomes a really fucked up thing to say. And, to use my earlier example, it's fucked up in the same way responding "Yeah well, X serial killer killed more people" to someone grieving at the loss of their family member to serial killer y.
@IkedaHakubi
Жыл бұрын
Even in times when "Everyone" thought slavery was OK, I bet the enslaved people knew they were getting a bad deal.
@olanmills64
Жыл бұрын
The really dumb thing about asserting "everyone" thought it was okay (I know that's not what you are saying) is it ignores lots of historical evidence that people knew various practices were wrong, to varying degrees. It's just that in most societies of the past, people had very little ability to effect major change. Most societies in the past had barbaric punishments for those that tried to speak against the status quo, not to mention they were usually some form of autocracy and/or feudalism
@lloroshastar6347
Жыл бұрын
@@olanmills64 Yeah that's true. Like during certain periods in European history it was effectively illegal to not be Christian, depending on the country or regime. There were exceptions but these were almost always with regions which were difficult to administer, or with people so rich and powerful that they could effectively get away with anything. Many people were Christian back then through fear, because being anything else would get you ostracised at best and executed or tortured to death at worst. That is traditionally how powerful people maintain their power, through a climate of fear and restricting freedoms. The enlightenment was the beginning of this change because it's hard to tell people all the time to disbelieve the evidence of their eyes and ears. However I think it's now getting easier to convince people of lies because the internet has the ability to create false narratives. I have friends for example who live in the countryside that believe things I know are categorically untrue living in the City, but they believe them because a podcast or KZitem video told them otherwise, and they are never going to seek the truth because they can create their own truth on their computers and other devices.
@tajniak4335
Жыл бұрын
@@olanmills64 I don't think anyone says that "everyone" thought slavery was OK. The argument is that was an generally accepted phenomenon, socially and legally. That doesn't mean no one questioned it. The main point is that it's wrong and stupid to judge actions of people living hunderets of years ago by today's moral, societal and legal standards. And predicting the argument that surely slaves didn't thought slavery was OK - I guess slaves didn't enjoy being slaves, but that's completely different from having an 21st century view on slavery as an institution.
@eu29lex16
Жыл бұрын
No sane slave owner would have wanted to be a slave, they knew it was wrong but just didn't care. They saw it as a neccesity that made their lives easier.
@SpoopySquid
Жыл бұрын
I made a similar comment on the original video and I'm still getting chuds chiming in to 'well actually' me even now lol
@aguywhodoesthings7061
Жыл бұрын
Confederate apologists: People didn't know slavery was bad back then!!! It's not fair to judge them for it!!! Also Confederate apologists: Did you know that Robert E. Lee said slavery was bad??
@adrianainespena5654
Жыл бұрын
Europeans knew it, and European monarchists and absolutists made fun of American Democracy because of slavery, "sure, you can have Democracy, if you got slaves to do the work"
@highjumpstudios2384
Жыл бұрын
They are the same person
@infantry4lyfe252
Жыл бұрын
Based Robert E. Lee
@justin2308
Жыл бұрын
@@infantry4lyfe252I think he was honestly the only one you could give that label to. Edit: Nope, nope! I was wrong! I double-checked and no he isn’t!
@infantry4lyfe252
Жыл бұрын
@@justin2308 un-based Robert E. Lee 😔
@eu29lex16
Жыл бұрын
No sane slave owner would have wanted to be a slave, they knew it was wrong but just didn't care. They saw it as a neccesity that made their lives easier.
@louthegiantcookie
Жыл бұрын
Moral laziness is often responsible for more evil than outright malevolence. TRULY evil people who do harm simply to do harm? Quite rare. People who do evil because they're too lazy to stop? Sadly, quite common in humanity.
@aribantala
Жыл бұрын
The views of the systematic and progressive efforts of certain people of the North (Abolitionists), to interfere with and change the domestic institutions of the South, are truthfully and faithfully expressed. The consequences of their plans & purposes are also clearly Set forth, and they must also be aware, ... (That it's) only be accomplished by them through the agency of a civil and servile war... *The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially and physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, and I hope will prepare & lead them to better things.* ... *Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influence of Christianity* ... The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to Convert but a small part of the human race, and even Christian nations, what gross errors still exist! While we see the Course of the final abolition of human slavery is onward, and we give it the aid of our prayers and all justifiable means in our power we must leave the progress as well as the result in his hands who Sees the end; who Chooses to work by slow influences. Robert E. Lee's letter to Mary R. C. Lee - December 27th, 1856 They knew it's morally evil, but they don't care. Even worse, Most prominent members of the confederacy like Marsh Roberts think that this is "their duty to make Blacks servile" and Slavery is nothing short of Proselytization. It's better for them to be bonded, becoming a Subservient race and "taught to be Christian" than for them to be free and have an agency of their own
@freneticness6927
Жыл бұрын
No sane employer would want to be an employee either. Where do you get your morals from though. You have the benefit of hindsight. Maybe someday we'll discover that animals have as complex thoughts as humans. Then you may be considered a monster. Or global warming will kill everyone and people will consider you worse than a slave owner.
@davidmason4244
Жыл бұрын
And no sane slave would rather be a negro than a poor white man.
@neoqwerty
Жыл бұрын
@@louthegiantcookie Only second to the people who do evil because they think they're morally in the right because their dogma says so and they're programmed to never question the dogma and see if it holds up to critical examination. Though I guess you could make an argument that trusting authority to spoon-feed them what is moral instead of assessing it themselves is a form of moral laziness, too; it's easier to believe you're (general you) saving your poor slaves from insert-argument-from-religion-slash-racial-superiority-slash-noblesse-oblige than to wonder if you've been taught something that may not be the truth.
@MyTv-
Жыл бұрын
Some years ago I really deep dived into the history of American slavery. How ever awful one imagine slavery, it constantly gets much worse by magnitude the deeper one goes.
@pointmanzero
Жыл бұрын
Citation needed
@rennnnn914
Жыл бұрын
@@pointmanzero No, a citation is not needed for opinions and observations.
@Hamokk
Жыл бұрын
I went into that rabbit hole recently too. Awful. Then there are White nationalists like Ron DeSantis who publicly say "slavery was good for black people".
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
@@pointmanzero citation needed
@GiantsRTheBest1
Жыл бұрын
@@rennnnn914 “I like Vanilla ice cream” commenters: citation needed
@TexasNationalist1836
Жыл бұрын
Of course we all know that not returning the cart at the grocery store is far worse than slavery or genocide
@modernmajorgeneral4669
Жыл бұрын
Truly the bane of our time
@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457
Жыл бұрын
The horrors are truly unspeakable
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
Жыл бұрын
No. Even as a joke that's messed up for you to say.
@TexasNationalist1836
Жыл бұрын
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c file a complaint
@TayTayMakesBeats
Жыл бұрын
As a shopping cart I think that take is reductive. You can never truly quantify oppression, it must be opposed in all forms. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
@josephlikely3849
Жыл бұрын
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Abraham Lincoln
@CyreniTheMage
Жыл бұрын
"Slavery has existed for thousands of years" So did smallpox, until we put a stop to it.
@CowMaster9001
Жыл бұрын
Ah, the white man's burden.
@rick7424
Жыл бұрын
@@CowMaster9001No, humanity put a stop to it.
@waterandafter
Жыл бұрын
Until all the antivax people bring it back.
@THECHEESELORD69
6 ай бұрын
@@waterandaftersmall pox only exists in labs, so technically no but you are right that if small pox does get out of those labs then all those people are fucked.
@ishkanark6725
Ай бұрын
@@waterandafterThere's two samples of it left, it's not coming back.
@theprussian4616
Жыл бұрын
Slavery still happens today. The people who defend slavery back then, I feel they unintentionally defend modern-day slavery. Real comforting to know people still defend the buying and selling of people.
@denifnaf5874
Жыл бұрын
"It's not slavery if they aren't people"
@theprussian4616
Жыл бұрын
@@denifnaf5874 Those people deserve to be smacked.
@JJfromPhilly67
Жыл бұрын
Its because people fail to see others as just as important as themselves. Some people see their needs and wants as more important to others. Look at how people are just plain rude to one another. Consider the most famous communists in history Lenin, Stalin, Mao. They talked all the time about equality and what they offered was equality of misery -well for most people, not their chosen few.
@invisibleman4827
Жыл бұрын
I agree. In fact, it'd probably be no bad thing for U.S groups who fight for justice for the historical wrongs done by/for slavery to combat modern day slavery if they aren't already doing so.
@DarkZerol
Жыл бұрын
There were engineers in Rome that actually created working but obviously very rudimental steam engines and even vending machines however none of them took off because it was way cheaper and easier to rely on slaves than it is to invest in machinery or other form of automation. Slaves were plentiful and no one saw the need to rely on anything else but slaves.
@keirangrant1607
Жыл бұрын
I didnt grow up in America and in the West Indies they teach you exactly what slavery was like, down to "buck breaking" and all that. One of my History teachers cried when he explained this to us, and I always remember him for that. So hearing Americans defend slavery just blows my mind.
@JackRogers-x9e
Жыл бұрын
Buck breaking is a myth made up by some black guy with a humiliation kink
@keirangrant1607
Жыл бұрын
@@JackRogers-x9e Oh it was a thing, just not the way is described today. It involved 2 horses and fire.
@keirangrant1607
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholic Youre a catholic........
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholichey you know the modle for Modern white Jesus comes from a panting by Leonardo Divinchie of his gay lover who was also the popes sun
@SpoopySquid
Жыл бұрын
@@asherroodcreel640I've also heard it was based on Cesare Borgia
@erf3176
Жыл бұрын
Fact: General Sherman taught the Confederates many valuable lessons that they could apply for their own personal benefit.
@squeaky206
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like how to really embrace and set fire to things.
@sirfox950
Жыл бұрын
Like the value of having good coal, lest someone uses your house as fuel
@bjmccann1
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@olezaku3469
Жыл бұрын
He definitely taught them how to do a bowtie.
@sirfox950
Жыл бұрын
@@olezaku3469 legendary comment
@captainspacebones3795
Жыл бұрын
If you defend slavery five times in the mirror you'll be isekai'd into the set of Checkmate Lincolnites of Atun Shei Films 😂
@dilloncrowe1018
Жыл бұрын
You know the Southerners that I feel pride for?... The Southern Unionist. The near 100,000 White Southerners who went North to Join the Union army and save the United States, the 90,000 Ex-Slaves whom escaped the Confederate States to join the Union Army and free their families, and people like General George H. Thomas, the Virginia Unionist, who was one of the greatest and most forgotten Generals of the Civil War. They're the one's we should really have Southern Pride in.
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
Tell me why was the union worth “saving”
@dilloncrowe1018
Жыл бұрын
@josephmitchell3507 because of everything the United States has invented and given the world today. All the achievements in science, as well as all the political and religious freedoms promised by our Constitution that still inspire freedom fighters across the globe today. Best case scenario for the Confederates, they exist long enough to be reconquered by the U.S. in WW1.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
@@josephmitchell3507 Because the Confederacy was anti-free press and proto-fascist, anti-democratic, and had stolen tracts of land from Mexico and the Civilized Indian Tribes.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
@@dilloncrowe1018 I' have been happy to let Mexico take back all former Spanish possessions.
@dilloncrowe1018
Жыл бұрын
@RebeccaOre why?... no one living there wants to be part of Mexico, including the Mexican-Americans that live there.
@nrein89
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you drink, but if you do, have some on me. Going over defenses of slavery has to do a number to one's mental health.
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
Hah, much appreciated! That is very generous of you.
@liamscott1905
Жыл бұрын
@nrein89 It’s a good thing Brandon isn’t actually going over defences of slavery then. He’s going over nuanced facts about slavery then falsely claiming they’re defending slavery. BrandonF is not the most honest person.
@bethanyreynolds7270
Жыл бұрын
@@liamscott1905 no Liam, this is a brain dead take
@liamscott1905
Жыл бұрын
@@bethanyreynolds7270 Yep brandonf take is braindead.
@neevko267
Жыл бұрын
@@liamscott1905 ok grandpa lets get you to bed
@ryannordberg6980
Жыл бұрын
I got a prager U “the history of slavery” ad on this video 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
Think about it this way- if you watch the ad, you take money from them and give it to me...eh? Eh?
@THECHEESELORD69
6 ай бұрын
@@BrandonFand da money can allow for trade between people, and trade allows for complex systems to run! Oh my god! We discovered one of the major pillars of civilization! Trade!
@Basilmoment
Ай бұрын
@@THECHEESELORD69 Yes, THECHEESELORD69, thank you, very cool
@MrWWIIBuff
Жыл бұрын
What's interesting is when I was doing my Senior Thesis on the Historiography of the American Revolution, I came across a little fun fact. The first Anti-Slavery societies started in 1774-1775, completely alongside the American War for Independence.
@davidmason4244
Жыл бұрын
The american revolution had the seeds sown since the english first fought for their rights.
@wildfire9280
Жыл бұрын
@@davidmason4244 Who exactly do you mean by the English? Colonial governments did a lot of work to split apart the giddy multitude long before the revolution.
@davidmason4244
Жыл бұрын
@@wildfire9280 the english and the their ancestors. From the Anglo Saxons to the English puritans, and the first english nationals to make a living in the new world.
@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225
Жыл бұрын
_... Historiography?_ Like, that's an actual word...?
@MrWWIIBuff
Жыл бұрын
@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 It is! It refers to the history of a history. Historiography in general is the history of history as a subject/discipline. The Historiography of something like the Roman Empire would be a history on how we've studied and viewed the Roman Empire, rather than the history of the Empire itself.
@Le-cp9tr
Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about slavery apologia is that it misses why slavery persisted. We can make moral arguments all day but what really was the reason it persisted was selectorate theory-there was a small, rich group of southerners who owned slaves who could lobby institutions and who could promote culture due to their wealth. Because of their influence and the need for others to have their backing to stay in power their influence was overly represented despite the fact most of the south did not own slaves. The morality of the situation was secondary
@woaddragon
Жыл бұрын
Correct
@lionmom7629
Жыл бұрын
Small rich group using their power and wealth to influence people into believing that doing obviously wrong, immoral and horrible things to a group of marginalized people are justified and necessary?!?! Wow, glad that doesn't happen anymore (I say with a lot of sarcasm). And let out a sigh of sadness.
@invisibleman4827
Жыл бұрын
If that's the case, why did the rank and file fight for them? How did they see something as vile as slavery as a "good" thing worth fighting and dying for?
@adamprice3466
Жыл бұрын
The last African country didn't abolish slavery until 1981, a near century after the US civil war. Let's hear your moronic dot connecting on how muh white southerners caused that..
@woaddragon
Жыл бұрын
@@invisibleman4827 So I am going to assume that you want a genuine answer. There are many reasons why poor white men join Confederate army. Fierce local patriotism, a sense of adventure, loyalty, etc. While all of this are true, they is also this under-current that was true then as Lydon B Johnson said it off the cuff remark about a century later "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." Also, the draft. People forgot that the South started conscription months in the war.
@freddythebandbear
Жыл бұрын
I am utterly unsatisfied with what my school teaches me about slavery. It’s either not enough or is downright fraudulent. I’m glad your channel is still up and running!
@carnage0685
Жыл бұрын
your* lol. “You’re” is “you are”. “Your” is possessive.
@brianstabile165
Жыл бұрын
@@nicknayl0rwhat does *raw* mean true? “Right leaning”? I feel like I need more context
@blackog7820
Жыл бұрын
Could you tell us more about your classes?
@freddythebandbear
Жыл бұрын
I just saw these replies-! 1. I just noticed my grammatical error. 2. Since I’m no longer a sophomore, we might be able to learn more about slavery, I’m not certain. We only ever had it glossed over, and the civil war wasn’t brought up, we went straight the Great Depression.
@brianstabile165
Жыл бұрын
@@freddythebandbear yeah it sucks how everyone makes a big deal of the Great Depression it was just a reaction to a crash of the stock market I believe
@lelduck6388
Жыл бұрын
For the first argument- If someone builds a puppy shredder, then sells it to you, does that make your use of it any less immoral then if you had built it yourself? If someone from a village sells you a button to release a wasp storm on their village does that make it okay somehow to push? If someone hires you as a hit man does that make your murder any less awful?
@95DarkFire
Жыл бұрын
No. No. and No. But if everyone back then used the puppy shredder every day, and my grandfather was the last one to give it up, is it ok for my family to be vilified for generations? There is a huge double standard where slavery by white europeans is treated like the ultimate, irredeemable sin, while slavery by any other society is simply waves away or ignored.
@strgunlinr2464
Жыл бұрын
@@95DarkFire Yes. sure you and you're father should not be vilified but you're grandpa should be and you're second point is dogshit yes slavery is BAD no matter who doing and those were BAD too you're point
@chinsaw2727
Жыл бұрын
@@95DarkFire It’s because the enslavement of black Africans by White Europeans accounted for 99.99% of slavery in the United States. In regards to the American experience, slavery anywhere else is irrelevant to the topic.
@Leoluvesadmira
Жыл бұрын
@@chinsaw2727 yet the US only had slavery for 89 years. The shortest for any country to ever have the practice as far as I know.
@aandyherr817
Жыл бұрын
@@95DarkFireok But did you or your grandfather defend slavery? If yes, that’s why. Lol stop defending child rape and people won’t hate you for defending child rape… 😂
@Jekyllstein_Gray
Жыл бұрын
It's also worth pointing out that most other forms of slavery weren't built on a policy of brutal racial subjugation. Most other historical forms of slavery did not regard the people it enslaved as being inherently servile to their enslavers, it was more of a "right of conquest" thing. TO BE CLEAR, this does NOT mean we can entirely crowbar Anglo-American racial slavery apart from other forms of slavery, nor does it mean that those other forms of slavery were somehow ok. It only means that they were not exactly the same in their rationalization or implementation.
@JoshSweetvale
Жыл бұрын
"Even for slavery, the ethnic chattel slavery in America was _especially_ bad." I mean who in history was worse? Mongolians? Though that straddled the line between slavery and execution-by-march.
@utubenewb1265
Жыл бұрын
Actually they often were. It's just that "races" were smaller before. The Gauls thought of the Latins as a separate race. The English called the Irish and French different "races". In many languages the word for "people/human" and the name of ones ethnic group were the same word. So if someone wasn't a Mongol, they weren't the same race or really human. It goes on back to the tribal level even to the hunter gatherer group. Any "other" group is not the same race or even human. And therefore their subjugation was acceptable, as was eating them, using them for human sacrifice, and or massacring them wholesale for ethnic cleansing or genocide. If it makes dehumanization, abuse, and accumulating power easier, any and every difference is called out to make someone a "other" of some type, color based racism is just one form of "othering".
@JoshSweetvale
Жыл бұрын
That's Culture, not Race @@utubenewb1265
@utubenewb1265
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshSweetvale Who in history was worse? How about the Norse who usually picked their human sacrifices from among their slaves. Just as many of the slave holding societies of Central Africa, the Dahomey held many slaves and sacrificed them during their different "festivals", some years they would execute hundreds for one celebration. The Aztecs enslaved, sacrificed and ate hundreds of thousands of their conquered neighbors. When Ireland was filled with slaves (held by the Irish) it is very likely some were sacrificed or maybe eaten. Slavery, human sacrifice, and cannibalism were very common throughout many/most regions of the world. Like almost all things in society, as societies got wealthier and less close to death by starvation or exposure, after centuries systems often became less brutal. To claim that American slavery was more or less brutal depends on what other societies you compare it with.
@whiteeye9584
8 ай бұрын
@@utubenewb1265 arabs were worse
@aickavon
Жыл бұрын
‘What about modern day slavery?’ “Its wrong and immoral. Topic seems to be closed on that.”
@JoshSweetvale
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile China remains unblockaded.
@tugalord
10 ай бұрын
Also even economically its an innefecient system, it was made obsolete by western capitalism
@ob2kenobi388
Жыл бұрын
The "slavery has existed for thousands of years" argument could very well be an Appeal To Antiquity fallacy. The idea that just because something is "the way it's always been" means that either it shouldn't be changed or, in this case, one shouldn't be judged for not changing it.
@nattygsbord
Жыл бұрын
Bloodletting, slavery and circumcision have existed for thousands of years but now do liberals all of a sudden just change things. Society is no longer what it once was. Women, children and slaves no longer respect me after I can no longer legally beat them.
@heylolp9
Жыл бұрын
Quick reminder on the side that medicine in anyway that we recognise wasn't even a thing pre WW1 So i guess just dying of typhus with nothing to do against it also existed for millennia And yet people still argue against this even though they can actively feel the outcomes of modern medicine So why expect people to not be idiots about something that is based in racism with a nice sprinkling of blissful ignorance as it feels so removed today (especially for the descendants of the planter class who aren't taught or willing to learn about their own ancestors crimes against humanity because knowing your grandpa was a terrible human is hard to face)
@KaosKittyStudios
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, appeals to the past to justify any stance on modern history, or justification for actions taken nowadays or in the past is weird to me. Especially because people act like it is such a 'gotcha I've won' arguement.
@No-longer1
Жыл бұрын
Few are the things where their antiquity is a point for their cause, and unfortunately the (systematic) treatment of humans by other humans is very rarely it. Mostly because the death and suffering of one group did give advantage of another group in atleast the short term, but we recognize this to be utterly inhuman. Sidenote: Nice pfp. Glory to Translesbianotzka.
@hyperchord
Жыл бұрын
I think people use that argument because people are quick to demonize the south for slavery but not other societies that used slaves
@dilloncrowe1018
Жыл бұрын
As someone with more Confederate veteran ancestors than Union (as far as I know), I do feel some pride in them for the inherent bravery that is to march off to war, to defend you homes and/or fight for what you believe in, however I do recognize my Confederate ancestors were on the wrong side of history, and ultimately, I'm glad they lost.
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
Get outta here with that nuance, that doesn't belong on KZitem!
@LivingCrusader
Жыл бұрын
@BrandonF then neither does your kicking of a long-dead horse.
@sharky9075
Жыл бұрын
@@LivingCrusader Unfortunately this discussion isnt long dead yet.
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
Sarcasm, friend.
@dilloncrowe1018
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF don't worry, I know!
@EthanMcCoy-j2o
23 күн бұрын
All races have been enslaved. Even the Caucasian race. My ancestors who were Slavs were enslaved by Muslims. But slavery on every side is horrible.
@oz_jones
3 күн бұрын
That's literally where the word Slav comes from. And Russia enslaved 10%-30% of Finland during the Great Northern War. EDIT: I'm not making any arguments here, just agreeing that every creed, nationality and ethnicity has been a slaver, enslaved or usually both.
@phr3ui559
2 күн бұрын
@@oz_jonesok
@magdajarco478
Сағат бұрын
„Slav” doesn’t come from „slave”-it’s the other way around. The OG word for „slave” in latin was actually „servus” and this is what other Western European languages derived their terms from at first. But when Slavs became the majority of the enslaved population in European/Arab world around early middle ages, the world changed to „slave” (esclave, Sklave, etc.) As a bit of trivia-in none of the slavic languages the word for slave is derived from „slave”/„Slav”. In Polish it’s „niewolnik” (sb without free will), in a lot of Eastern and Southern Slavic languages it’s some form of „rab” (which has the same root as „rabota” meaning work), while in Czech, Slovak and Slovenian it is some variant of „otrok” (comes from proto-Slavic world for child).
@noahvadertheberserkerpacki6604
Жыл бұрын
That opening monologue has me raving. Respectfully hilarious. If anyone defends slavery, perhaps they should experience chattel slavery until they stop defending it. I think that would be a suitable punishment, but that's just me.
@dennisyoung4631
Жыл бұрын
Yes, feel the objectification of the *SLAVER!*
@comettamer
Жыл бұрын
Lincoln was of a similar mind, stating that whenever he'd hear anyone speak in favor of slavery, it would ignite inside him a strong desire to see it tried on that person themselves until they truly understood its horrors.
@knownothing3364
Жыл бұрын
Wow so stunning and brave youre really showing them with your radical beliefs
@pippleyfisching9214
Жыл бұрын
@@knownothing3364 Lincoln sure did. He kicked slaver ass with his radical views alongside Grant, Sherman, Thomas, and Meade. Fuck slavers, give em a taste of their own "superiority".
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
@@knownothing3364 cope in silence bud
@Gary-zq3pz
Жыл бұрын
Defending slavery is like defending cannibalism.
@rustyshackleford1465
Жыл бұрын
I concur.
@scottanos9981
Жыл бұрын
I will defend the Donner Party though 😅
@Georgia-p6x
Жыл бұрын
It's way worse lol. Cannibalism has many different incarnations. Desperation, eating bits of people without killing them, eating already dead people... And killing people to eat them. The last one being the only objectively bad one and it's because it involves murder. Murder was the least horrifying part of slavery.
@vardiganxpl1698
Жыл бұрын
But people do be tasty tho
@JoshSweetvale
Жыл бұрын
The imperative against slavery is a moral one. I do not want to live in a world where sentient beings *like myself* are stripped of all the good parts of sentience. It's inefficient. The mind must tell the body: No breaking the bones and wills of the disobedient. The imperative against cannibalism is a _biological_ one. We find it disgusting because _eating humans makes us ill._ Therefore the body tells the mind: No. You'll get sick.
@NobleWolf
Жыл бұрын
The pro slavery people really try their best to distance themselves from blame while also promoting Slavery. Its like saying Cigarettes are bad for you and they are blowing cigarette smoke right in your face. Its Hypocrisy at its highest level
@Killerbee4712
Жыл бұрын
Hi brandon, one additional point I would like to make to the first point is, the reason many people bring up "Well africans enslaved africans too" etc. is to act as a counter argument against the claim that The trans-atlantic, or slavery in general, was a racial institution as much as it was an economic. Whilst this is not the case for many European, asian, or african systems, it definitely became the case in US slavery, as the system of race was heavily encoded into many state legislature. The reason they keep saying "well slavery has existed for thousands of years by other races" is because they want to dismiss the claim that American slavery was racially motivated, and not just an economic/political platform other previous empires had built it on. By claiming that africans also enslaved africans, they are implying that slavery is not a racial institution/racist, and by extension, neither was the transatlantic slavery, American south slavery, and the reasons for the civil war. A false equivelancy at best, downright stupidity at worst.
@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you typed this up before you were finished, because he literally says that lmao
@Killerbee4712
Жыл бұрын
@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel Oh yeah, got ahead of myself lol
@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel
Жыл бұрын
@@Killerbee4712no biggie, we all do it sometimes
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
Extremely well said
@SpaceFlamingo07
Жыл бұрын
Ok but fr I guarantee the people who defend slavery never put the shopping cart back
@EyeonthePrize247
Жыл бұрын
They also sit front facing on the toilet.
@goosegas2087
Жыл бұрын
They be one of those people that leave the restaurant table a total pigsy and leave condescending notes about how you should have served better to get better tips.
@EmpireHere
Жыл бұрын
Damn monsters
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
@@EyeonthePrize247LMFAOOO
@Xtra_Medium
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact This video was actually interrupted immediately after the first point by a PragerU ad about slavery In this ad Candace Owens says "Did you know White people did not actually invent slavery?" 😐😣🤦
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
LMFAOOOOO
@salsamonkey65
Жыл бұрын
That first argument kills me every time I hear it. "Your honor, other people have committed murder. Therefore it is unfair to single my client out, and he should be free to go." That's about the level of logic we're at with this one. Why are people so desperate to defend such obviously monstrous behavior? Edit: you gave the same silly example I did lol
@markwilliams2620
Жыл бұрын
Racism, like all bigotry, is illogical, vicious laziness. Folks with even a modicum of self-awareness don't want to admit to holding these views. Hence, mental gymnastics ensues.
@filmandfirearms
Жыл бұрын
No, the argument is "This guy gave my client the knife and told him to kill the victim, but instead of being charged, he's being rewarded for being a murder victim."
@deezboyeed6764
Жыл бұрын
@@filmandfirearmsnot really but keep trying to justify it.
@smtandearthboundsuck8400
Жыл бұрын
Same way the USA justifies its war crimes « Guysse there’s a totally bigger baddie around stop looking at me 😡😡😡 »
@Tarnatos14
Жыл бұрын
@@filmandfirearms The Buyer told the seller to sell, not vice versa. And at wich point where african slave sellers rewarded after the freeing and abolishing of slaves?
@natesamson1008
Жыл бұрын
Lmao after you covered the fact that just because the slaves were sold by African’s doesn’t justify slavery. I got an add for PragerU saying how slavery in America wasn’t that bad because slavery was around way before people were in America.
@bitedusterlol5304
Жыл бұрын
yeah prageru is retarded
@Qdaman17
Жыл бұрын
It’s the internet, when you think you’ve hit the bottom of the barrel, there’s always another barrel factory to get through.
@wrigglenightbug8679
Жыл бұрын
If you have to say "People would never defend that!", there is at least a moderately sized group of people who will, indeed, defend that.
@menschman1464
Жыл бұрын
When you hit the bottom of the barrel and to your surprise the bottom pops off and reveals a bottomless abyss
@lelduck6388
Жыл бұрын
Upon hitting the bottom of the barrel it caves out from under you and you fall straight into hell.
@v.sandrone4268
Жыл бұрын
A worm barrel factory....
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
@@menschman1464it's not awlays a barrel other sizes of cask are used as well
@MMumbles
Жыл бұрын
"But the Union had slaves, too!" Yes. And that was ALSO wrong.
@nightslasher9384
Жыл бұрын
@@MKUltraVictim-sw5qsWhat? 😒
@jonahulichny9874
Жыл бұрын
@@MKUltraVictim-sw5qs your serious?
@jonahulichny9874
Жыл бұрын
@@MKUltraVictim-sw5qs alright then, I’ll bite. Slavery is bad because it inherently leads to the abuse and mistreatment of those who are enslaved. It’s a practice that treats people like property rather than, well, people. Simple as.
@iamwonka
Ай бұрын
Two wrongs don’t make a right. These people can’t see that slavery itself is wrong.
@tjmonkey5795
25 күн бұрын
@@iamwonkaunles multiplication -1×-1=1😮😢😢😂😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😅😮😢😢🎉😂in Super die hat den den den den den den die hat den den den den die hat den den den den die hat den den den den die
@cdcdrr
Жыл бұрын
As always, it seems Florida wants to out-do the stupid by teaching that "but slaves learned valuable work skills!". Yes, they did. And that's not what people hate about slavery. It's more the fact that slaves weren't free to apply their skills to their own benefit and build a future for themselves. They'd have to spend the better years of their lives working to a planter's benefit until they were too old or too injured to gain any meaningful benefit from their abilities. They got all the downsides of slavery, and never received these supposed benefits.
@foam3132
Жыл бұрын
People hate the American form of slavery because of its effects, which is called racism. Not Xenophobia (my god, the amount of people confusing Xenophobia and Racism is impressive, although they can be used at the same time), racism, which still affects us to modern day
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
Florida is wild 😂😂😂
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
Florida is crazy 😂😂😂
@thesocialistsarecoming8565
Ай бұрын
Specifically singling out florida is strange, is this from something recent or?
@mr_resource5099
Ай бұрын
WHY IS THERE A FUCKING BIRD CHIRPING IM GOING TO LOSE IT
@cowbeanboi412
Ай бұрын
He had to go to a zen garden to avoid yelling
@silverswordstudios7334
Жыл бұрын
I think I know what you're alluding to with the "Thomas Jefferson arguments." One I've often heard is that slavery was intended to be phased out in the South or in the CSA, and the slavers were just trying to do so gradually while the North was filled with "radicals." It's a pretty easy one to discredit once you get into the history of antebellum southern political policy regarding slavery, particularly in regards to Manifest Destiny into Latin America and intense advocation for the expansion of the institution into new states.
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
The north wasn’t filled with “radical” in fact they were very racist to blacks and the majority of those who did want to end slavery wasn’t to help blacks but to get a better market on white labor hence the keep slavery where it is and leave the west for whites only mind set most republicans had at the time hell Lincoln wanted to deport them all yes the south wanted to keep slavery is that the sole and only reason they left the union of course not
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
There were attempts to bring Central American into the slaving world even after slavery was abolished in Mexico (debt peonage continued) and in Central America. William Walker, an American freebooter, reestablished it in the 1850s. Texas seceded from Mexico because Mexico free slaves, too. and all of the former Mexico was supposed to become slave states. Civil War was not long after the William Walker forces invaded Nicaragua.
@acethesupervillain348
Жыл бұрын
Might be helpful to point out that my state of Massachusetts had banned slavery even before 1776
@theodoreroosevelt2154
Жыл бұрын
Well yes, but the actual removal of the system in the north, especially in New England, took quite a while. A census from the 1850s shows that there were thousands of slaves in New England. So while the gesture is good, it didn’t really get put into effect until way later.
@calvinpell1738
Жыл бұрын
@@theodoreroosevelt2154true enough, though I believe most of the slaves further north were in New York (might be wrong tho). And let’s not forget how completely racist and I empathetic all of those northerners had always been to the native Americans (who were the inspiration for the name Massachusetts in the first place, some irony there)
@theodoreroosevelt2154
Жыл бұрын
@@calvinpell1738 Most were in New York, I’m pretty sure Pennsylvania had the 2nd highest count.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
New Jersey allowed selected blacks (with land/money) and women (with land/money and perhaps no husbands) to vote from the Revolution until 1805.
@theodoreroosevelt2154
Жыл бұрын
Correcting myself. New Jersey was 2nd, Pennsylvania was 3rd. New Jersey had 7,000-8,000 slaves, New York breached 10,000
@ItsAVolcano
Жыл бұрын
On the first point Portugal oddly enough has some of the best recorded history of this, having traded with many of the African slave empires and even inviting quite a few of their nobility to visit their own kingdom. Heck, quite a few Portuguese castles even have old portraits of these visiting African nobles.
@ZinvictanGamer
Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough in school we never learn about portuguese piracy in the indian ocean but we learn about the slave trade
@feastguy101
Жыл бұрын
@@ZinvictanGamer we do (I’m Portuguese), but we don’t call it piracy. Mare Clausum (Closed Sea), the policy that, in order to sail the Indic Ocean, you needed a navigation permit from the Portuguese Crown, this in the 16th century, mostly. Woe onto you, if you were intercepted by a Portuguese patrol and didn’t have said permit. This practice was sanctioned by the papacy, on the same line as the Treaty of Tordesillas. Fun fact: one of the two surviving ships of the Magellan Expedition attempting to return to Spain after the Philippines debacle was captured by a Portuguese patrol while attempting to sneak through the Indic, in what is now Indonesia. We set fire to the ship, brought the crew ashore, and crucified them.
@Philip271828
Жыл бұрын
There's a good book by Mark Hughes(Slave Trade 1440 to 1860) which starts off with voyages of exploration down the West African coast. It's a bit of an eye opener.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
Under British colonial rule, a few princes were freed because one aristocratic society didn't own other aristocrats.
@Philip271828
Жыл бұрын
@@RebeccaOre that doesn't sound very familiar, which part of the world was this?
@MendocinoMotorenWerk
Жыл бұрын
Einstein apparently said, that two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; but he's uncertain of the first one.
@Breakfastman343MIC
Ай бұрын
Slavery is gay. You are owning another person.
@Molten_Slugger
Ай бұрын
Is pretty gay owning another man
@TemmieContingenC
17 күн бұрын
True true
@redfireeverstar2651
Жыл бұрын
Why can't we all agree slavery no matter what form or who's the master is evil.
@danielomar9712
Жыл бұрын
But we must justify the idea of owning human beings !!!! 😢😢😢 You can't just tell me my ancestors were bad !
@oo-vivian
Жыл бұрын
@@danielomar9712im sorry to tell you this presidente but your ancestors were bad
@CowMaster9001
Жыл бұрын
Because then we'd have to bulldoze Dubai into the sea.
@redfireeverstar2651
Жыл бұрын
@@CowMaster9001 What a shame that would be...
@highjumpstudios2384
Жыл бұрын
There's too much to gain by justifying the actions of your ancestors politically
@realdragon
Ай бұрын
I don't see people who say "slavery isn't bad" willingly becoming a slave
@iamwonka
Ай бұрын
I wonder why… 🤔 They’re clowns defending a lost cause. 🤣 People being stupid back then, but somehow were able to write about the freedom of the individual. 😂
@RacismIsMentalillness
Жыл бұрын
“If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there's no progress. If you pull it all the way out that's not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven't even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound. They won't even admit the knife is there.” -MALCOLM X
@ayendesschedulewilkinson8870
Ай бұрын
Ain't that the truth
@BenersantheBread
19 күн бұрын
Let's not quote the guy who was a blatant black supremecist and believed white people to be a failed experiment by evil scientists in biblical times.
@darthplagueis13
Жыл бұрын
"The human experience" is a good one. Smallpox were part of the human experience for a long time as well, and I still don't regret missing out on them one bit.
@Ruosteinenknight
Жыл бұрын
"Ancient world didn't think slavery was bad! Look at Rome! Their slaves were docile and content!" Hey, statue pfp with "Retvrn" in your name, ever heard of a guy called Spartacus? The guy who made Rome shit themselves and they needed heavy hitter like Crassus to take him down, with Pompey finishing off what remained?
@GutterJon
Жыл бұрын
5:00 YO THAT BIRD IS SPITTIN BARS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
@PlatinumAltaria
Жыл бұрын
"There were hundreds of thousands of Americans in the south who had a problem with slavery" is an important thing to say, because often these people act as though slaves weren't people.
@RealRexRiplash
Жыл бұрын
Annoying Orange has been around longer than the confederacy.
@dRoy8364
Жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact for Neo-Confederates and Neo-Nazis (or am I just repeating myself): Barack Obama's presidency lasted twice as long as the Confederacy did. 😂
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
Not really there have been multiple confederation throughout history now if you are solely talking about just the southern 1860 one yes he did
@jeremyandrews3292
Жыл бұрын
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” -- Upton Sinclair
@greenmountainhistory7335
Жыл бұрын
I’m kind of disappointed that “but the slaves got fed” isn’t on here. Reading that (paraphrased) in the comments of your other vid was the most brain dead take I’d seen in a while.
@helwrecht1637
Жыл бұрын
“At least I gave the kidnapped hostage in my basement I make run a hamster wheel basic human needs” Wtf is wrong with some people to think slavery is justified cause you have with food.
@DreamersOfReality
Жыл бұрын
They also weren't always fed. So factually incorrect on multiple points.
@aroaceautistic
Жыл бұрын
I HAD A HISTORY TEACHER TEACH US THAT. BRO WTF
@markbeoluke6454
Жыл бұрын
Another horrible argument I heard them say is that the slaves descendants have it great today and they should be thankful their ancestors were brought over here as slaves. It sickens me.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
That's another really BS argument. Most plantations had cash crops (cotton, rice, indigo, or tobacco) and the slaves also raised the food for the plantation and built the plantation houses. The numbers of plantation owners making serious money from the cash crops who could afford to buy rice and beans for the hands was tiny. Jefferson didn't spade his own gardens. Washington had a flax mill and weavery. Most of the clothes in plantations were made by slaves. The slaves, like some landless farm workers today, got to eat what they grew. And if the cash crop failed, the landlord borrowed money against his human property.
@vathek5958
Жыл бұрын
For an overview of the Atlantic slave trade with a focus on West and West Central Africa, ‘A Fistful of Shells’ is a really interesting book. Goes into the process whereby those groups in the region who were most willing and able to trade slaves became the richest; wealth which they used to conquer other groups and export more slaves, and so on.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
From my Africa History course, one chief tried to stop the gun acquiring wars by saying they were destroying each other and each other's culture, and would end up badly. He wasn't listened to.
@aribantala
Жыл бұрын
@@RebeccaOre The person who want to prevent wars were those who were always ignored.
@freneticness6927
Жыл бұрын
He was probably shot hah. But really the tribes on the coast bought guns from the european and conquered and sold other africans to europeans to buy more guns and repeat. Interestingly the subsaharan africans have the most genetic diversity of any humans on the planet. Sort of like a wolves to dogs situation where all dogs came from just some wolves. Could explain why polynesians and amerindians who had the least genetic diversity were the most susceptible to diseases and africans were the least susceptible. Amerindians have got to be the most genetically different people to subsaharan africans out of any groups. Along with amerindians and polynesians not having many disease carrying domesticated animals to catch diseases from aswell though.
@titansmirage
Жыл бұрын
I think another good topic to this video series would be the so called "Irish slaves in America" and the difference between indentured servitude and chattel slavery. This seems to come up alot when arguing about slavery
@jordanjoestar-turniptruck
Жыл бұрын
I had an ancestor who was an indentured servant. Shipped over to colonial Virginia after a heist gone bad. He impregnated his boss's daughter (their child was born 5 months after their marriage) and he was given several acres of land at the end of it. Definitely not an outcome if he had been from Africa.
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no depends on how you define everything was a surf a slave or a crop sharer if your servant was brought by force ( and a lot of Irish where forced into it) and it lasted for say 30 years it would have been your whole adult life kinda like some slave court cases stating the man is free but you own all his labor and property of his labor gets weird how they worded things back than but remember this everyone was a slave to someone else at one time in history
@rasheed7934
Жыл бұрын
@@josephmitchell3507It was not generational slavery. Their wives and children could not be sold away from them, and the women could not be legally raped and forced to bare the child. I could go on.
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
Yes it was not generational but still a form of slavery and yes from what I have read woman under I S. could legally be raped but if she had a kid the kid would be free and I S still could legally have been beaten and whipped just like a slave the only difference being to was not generational and hopefully your service would end before you die I am curious how mean where beaten to death right before there time served was up….
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
@@josephmitchell3507 Indenture was for seven years. One thing the ruling class had utter fits over were indentured servants and black slaves all running away to the frontier and having integrated cultures. See Bacon's Rebellion.
@BiggestCorvid
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for delivering the real history, Brandon. The truth will win out eventually.
@rosesweetcharlotte
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this channel! It feels like Im living in an alternate reality where so many people think slavery wasn't that bad and Abolitionists and slaves were wrong to fight against it
@reesf743
Жыл бұрын
Slavery is bad. There is no valid disagreement with that statement
@liamscott1905
Жыл бұрын
@reesf743 It’s a good thing nobody was disagreeing with that statement.
@reesf743
Жыл бұрын
@@liamscott1905 "nobody" You must be new to the internet
@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel
Жыл бұрын
@@liamscott1905sort comments to new mon frere
@Nomadith
Жыл бұрын
Every time i see neo-confederate cope i have an innate desire to send them a collection of memes from Atun-Shei's fantastic 'Checkmate Lincolnites' series. It's what's deserved. Very good video and response Brandon
@josephmitchell3507
Жыл бұрын
Odd being every “point” atun makes is false and miss leading and there is a lot of videos out there discrediting him
@dg1178
Жыл бұрын
@@josephmitchell3507 Videos "discrediting" him are other neo-confederate chumps. Please read some history texts sometime and you will realize how pervasive the lost cause myth is. Fortunately, their unbelievably stupid beliefs are on the way out. Everybody just laughs at the neo-confederate, neckbeard shut-ins now.
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
@@josephmitchell3507sure 😂😂😂
@attilamarics3374
Жыл бұрын
@@LewisB3217 These guys you are believeing are low tier lefties, trying to rewrite history. Even in this video this guy strawmanned a few arguments.
@SpoopySquid
Жыл бұрын
Send them pics of General Sherman
@Smellbringer
Жыл бұрын
I watched your video on the worst argument about slavery literally last night, so I'll say here what I said there, "My best counter against these arguments for slavery is simple, 'They are still people.'"
@user-gu9yq5sj7c
Жыл бұрын
That's why in history, slavery supporters made a excuse that some races or slaves were not human, subhuman, or closer to animals and therefore it was ok to subjugate them like animals.
@rococo-reinette
Жыл бұрын
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c And there are many even now who argue that some races are inherently less intelligent, a disgusting argument I've unfortunately heard put forth more times than I would like.
@95DarkFire
Жыл бұрын
That is a pretty weak argument, because the value of people was much less in any society in the past than it is today. Most people in the Middle ages were serfs, which is only slightly better than slavery. In that time, slavery was just another social relationship. In many places of the world, a slave of a rich person could have a better life than the average person. Sabuktigin, the first Emperor of the Ghaznavid dynasty, who ruled from Persian to northern India, was once a slave. That is why it is so important to understand the historical facts rather than make emotional or "moral" arguments about the past.
@unsuspiciousdweller8967
Жыл бұрын
@@95DarkFire Cool story. Still slavery. Still people.
@laughingseagull000
Жыл бұрын
@@95DarkFireThe value of a human life never changed. Only people’s worldviews changed.
@dr0g_Oakblood
Жыл бұрын
0:43 - Can't tell if troll or if blaring foghorn instead of a dogwhistle, because oh boy they're not trying to hide anything with that sentence lmao
@fattyMcGee97
Жыл бұрын
“Equality is for the weak. Victory is for the strong.” - that comment you showed in support of slavery is so stupid because the guy doesn’t realise that the strongest are the ones who can hold cohesion in an equal society to push forward to victory without infringing on the rights of people. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Slavery is wrong and completely unnecessary. Workers are more productive when they have time and money to live their own lives happily. People also willingly put their lives on the line to defend that when someone comes to try and enslave them in turn making a stronger and more resilient society. The south lost to the guys using freed slaves to help fight against them. Don’t ever forget that. If the south was so strong because of slavery then why did they lose?
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what a world where everyone was this thoughtful would look like
@bjmccann1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I always enjoy your videos, but you REALLY earned a tip today, my brother!
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
This is very generous of you, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed! Edit: Fun fact, this tip is worth roughly 5k video views!
@bjmccann1
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF 😁😁😁
@THECHEESELORD69
6 ай бұрын
@@BrandonFI love the smell of money in the morning!
@epronovost6539
Жыл бұрын
The people from the Bronze and Iron Age were not under the delusion that slavery was good or noble. They knew very well that slavery was something cruel and terrible to inflict upon others. That's why slavery was used as a punishment for crimes for example. If that's what you do to bad people, you consider it a bad thing. Nobody is under the delusion that being sent to prison today is a good thing for the prisoners. At best it's considered as a just punishment or a security measures for the rest of society. Slavery was something terrible you inflicted on people you did not like and/or considered inferior in the Ancient world, in other words your defeated enemies, criminals, people who had accumulated debts they could not repay. It was "a just punishment" at best. Nobody in Antiquity thought "these people are better under slavery than free" that's a modern non-sense used by racialists a lot later.
@laughingseagull000
Жыл бұрын
A lot of ancients genuinely did believe that their slaves were better off serving them, though. Slavery isn’t good, but people believed that some people were natural slaves and it was therefore good for them to be serving a “good” master who fed them and “took care of them” etc.
@ANTSEMUT1
Жыл бұрын
@@laughingseagull000under specific circumstances and boundaries, not the whole concept.
@hektonian
Жыл бұрын
If someone defends slavery, then apply the golden rule: they are fine with slaves, so they must be fine with being a slave themselves. Them being the slave owners instead of slaves would be a wild fantasy at best anyway
@JVandthebrotherhood
Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that slavery officially exists in the USA. Having the highest incarcerated population as a policy to keep up finding poor workers to be enslaved: AMENDMENT XIII Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
@JLT0087
Жыл бұрын
I think there were laws past later, possibly on the state level, to limit the use of prison labor or at least do away with the chain gangs, but I could be wrong.
@joeltraten5967
Жыл бұрын
“Who sold the slaves?” kind of misses the point. “Why did they have a market to sell them to?” helps to bring the discussion closer to the heart of the matter. That is one way to respond to that question. Sure, it is responding to a question with a question, but it is responding to an irrelevant question with a relevant one.
@robertmartinu8803
Жыл бұрын
Because along the silk road and in the caliphates the market persisted throughout the ages. The whole idea of slavery being bad never colonized extraeuropean territories until much later. See also the quite one-sided dynamics of slavery between European coastal states and eastern Europe vs the barbary coast/ottoman empire.
@joeltraten5967
Жыл бұрын
@@robertmartinu8803 most impressive, sir. A very intelligent and knowledgeable response. Though it may be a gross oversimplification, the simple fact is that some people and cultures do not view their fellow man as equals, as our Declaration of Independence asserts. When a person is aware of a distinction between themselves and all other forms of life presently known, including within the fossil record, the idea of enslaving such a creature becomes intolerable. What is that distinction? Creativity, willfully expressed. This attribute is most readily identified in our willful and controlled use of fire to perform work, including heating our food. It is further expressed in our ability to take raw material resources, and through the interaction of the skilled labor of an individual knowledgeable in physical principles, that material is transformed into something which never existed before and never would have existed without our intervention as His moral, mortal agents in Creation. It is identified at a still higher level in our ability even to discover such principles, such as the Principle of Least Action, for example. Thank you for your response, sir! Very good! Edit: The distinction is between *man* generally and all other forms of life. Not between an individual human and all other forms of life, just for clarification.
@trumpeterjen
Ай бұрын
Ever notice how people who give the “but what about modern slavery” argument never bring up modern slavery in any other context? It’s just a tool for defending chattel slavery. Which is just pathetic, frankly.
@vinz4066
Жыл бұрын
Away down South in the land of traitors Rattlesnakes and alligators Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Where cotton's king and men are chattels Union boys will win the battles Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away (come away) We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie I wish I was in Baltimore I'd make secession traitors roar Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away (come away) We'll put the traitors all to route I'll bet my boots we'll whip 'em out Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away (come away) We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie! Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie Oh, may our Stars and Stripes still wave Forever o'er the fee and brave Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Right away (right away) Come away (come away) And let our motto ever be Forever Union and for liberty Right away (right away) Come away (come away) Ride away (ride away) Come away (come away) We'll all go down to Dixie, away, away Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie Away (away) Away (away) We'll all go down to Dixie
@TexasNationalist1836
Жыл бұрын
Very good song but I prefer the confederate version of Dixie
@joshuaidugboe214
Жыл бұрын
@@TexasNationalist1836factually incorrect
@squeaky206
Жыл бұрын
@@TexasNationalist1836Because glorifying insurrection and rebellion is objectively a Texan tradition.
@llewelynshingler2173
Жыл бұрын
@@squeaky206Somebody needs to sing the Anthem of Losers and Failure
@GreenKnight343
Жыл бұрын
@@TexasNationalist1836 Bring the good old bugle boys, we'll sing another song! Sing it with the spirit that will start the world along! Sing it as we used to sing it, 50, 000 strong! While we were marching through Georgia! Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the jubilee! Hurrah! Hurrah! The flag that makes you free! So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea! While we were marching through Georgia! There were many Union men who wept with joyful tears! When they saw the honored flag they had not seen for years! Hardly could they be restrained from breaking forth in cheers! While we were marching through Georgia! Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the jubilee! Hurrah! Hurrah! The flag that makes you free! So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea! While we were marching through Georgia! So we made a thoroughfare for Freedom and her train! Sixty miles in latitude, three hundred to the Maine! Treason fled before us for resistance was in vain! While we were marching through Georgia! Hurrah! Hurrah! We bring the jubilee! Hurrah! Hurrah! The flag that makes you free! So we sang the chorus from Atlanta to the sea! While we were marching While we were marching While we were marching through Georgia!
@skooter2767k
8 ай бұрын
The same thing happens when talking about the genocide of the native Indians. “They were killing each other in tribal wars for centuries” well….so were Europeans. Does that mean murdering the Indians was justified? Absolutely NOT!
@waltonsmith7210
Жыл бұрын
I dont understand how you can rhetorically spank these people so hard but theyll still come back with the same arguments lol
@grasskingdoms
Жыл бұрын
the birds chirping in the background really had me fucked up as i listened to this late at night.
@grasskingdoms
Жыл бұрын
like i kept pausing it like “what the fuck is that noise?” then i realized it was the video
@PebisKhan
Жыл бұрын
This video is great, but it's sad that stuff like this even needs to be said.
@dechha1981
Күн бұрын
I can tell you from experience; NEVER tell ANYONE you speak to on the internet that they are the dumbest person in the world. The Internet seems to take that as a challenge.
@peashooter1600
21 күн бұрын
Im a direct descendent of the president of the confederacy and i hate slavery
@TalabAlSahra
Жыл бұрын
Lmao and the absolute worst argument is that it somehow benefited the slaves.
@stevencooper4422
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholicI take it you mean that sharecropping was cheaper for plantation owners. Literally that's the only way I could see slavery somehow being "better" for the freedmen
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
@@TheReformedCatholicI wonder how many people would suffer a life of torment contuing generation by generation in a much lesser form to this very day so they could have iPhones and sometimes consistently have food on the table while growing up, that's your argument right?
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
The Union Army was 10% escaped slaves. They knew how they'd be treated if captured alive.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
@@stevencooper4422 My grandfather was a white sharecropper who worked his way out of that. Best deal is out and out rent if you could make a crop better than the other folks. Shares range from 1/3 to the landlord if the tenant provides traction, fertilizer, and seed to fifty/fifty if the landlord does.
@stevencooper4422
Жыл бұрын
@@RebeccaOre Fort Pillow comes to mind. The black union soldiers were unsure if they should surrender or not, but when the confederate forces entered the fort it didn't make a difference...
@reginaldlongbottom
25 күн бұрын
love to imagine bob the tomato is telling me this
@maxwellbarnhart1375
7 ай бұрын
Pausing at 5:30 just to say: i think the people who point out that africans had slavery as well are reacting to their own tendency for essentialist thought. They see black people committing crime, and believe it to be a trait of that racial group. In the same spirit, i think maybe their typical reaction to being reminded of the horrors of the transatlantic slave trade is to defend their whiteness, because of their inclination to see everything in black and white or good and evil.
@hueyiroquois3839
Жыл бұрын
In the Thomas Jefferson video, are you going to address the idea of comparing him to modern people who buy chocolate, or who use lithium batteries?
@BrandonF
Жыл бұрын
Actually, yes!
@hueyiroquois3839
Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF Cool.
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
That kind of evil is not cleary not one we we've ever had the hard ware to grapple with
@Hughes81
Жыл бұрын
I do love that we have examples of antislavery movements as far back as Ancient Greece. Like Abolitionists aren't a modern thing.
@NapaCat
Жыл бұрын
It probably predates Ancient Greece, we just lack records of those efforts.
@Captine3250
Жыл бұрын
one of my favorite arguments is that the north had slaves too, so the confederacy wasn't bad. The people who do this always throw in states that were admitted to the confederacy as northern states (iv seen them claim Louisiana and Tennessee to be northern states.), and West Virginia (who joined the union on the promise of gradual emancipation, and was one of the first border states to get rid of slavery entirely) Granted, the north had slaves (in much smaller amounts than the south) and it is wrong, but they actually got rid of their slaves willingly (with very few exceptions) and not by force. They also didn't say that their government was built upon slavery, but who am I to judge?
@ZeroKitsunei
Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, if someone ever used any of these arguments with me I'd probably just say "OK..." and just not interact with them again.
@MouldMadeMind
Жыл бұрын
That's how they think them winning an argument looks.
@XMysticHerox
Жыл бұрын
"Arguments" like these are pretty common for racists and extremists in general. It's confusing because you try to argue a position (eg slavery is bad) while they don't really care about individual positons. Extremsists mostly care about the aesthetics and their team. From a racists perspective here the discussion is not "slavery is good vs bad" it's "black vs white people". Or maybe "woke versus nationalist" depending on the particular flavor of insanity.
@waltonsmith7210
Жыл бұрын
As a universalist, that always throws me off.
@RebeccaOre
Жыл бұрын
The descendants of slave owners in the South talk about how they treated their owned people like family and buried them in their family grave yards, and stuff.
@libertyprime2013
Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed a lot of Confederate apologists tend to fetishize the Spartans too. They’re my least favorite Greek city state.
@SusCalvin
Ай бұрын
Sparta looks like the place all slave nations eventually head to. A dictatorial, militarized police state where more and more state force is turned inward.
@goosemann2389
Жыл бұрын
The Wii U lasted longer than the confederacy
@Diego_the_sleepless
Ай бұрын
Today's subject, Slavery
@sjappiyah4071
Ай бұрын
Funny enough, Brandon uploaded this video the day Apple dropped the confederate flag/dixie battle flag emoji 🏳️ 💀 It is actually insane how people are unaware how ludicrous they sound defending the ownership and torture of other human beings 💀
@scottanos9981
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the true Confederacy was the friends we made along the way...
@floridafrostbite8002
10 ай бұрын
“But slavery has been around forever!” So has misogyny, beating up women, and corporate punishment but we view that as bad now don’t we?
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