I would really love to see a follow-up or companion video about when each army was introduced and how they changed over the years.
@beflyaudio
14 күн бұрын
Agreed!
@Dalmango
Жыл бұрын
The passion just shines through. Amazing video
@seandollard4441
Жыл бұрын
Having serious flashbacks to 3rd edition and the endless tables and disagreements over partial hits😂 great video as always guys!!
@Captroop
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, and looking down over the blast template and arguing over how many models were hit. Truly they were glorious times.
@MenschWerdeWesentlich
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, a guarantee for an unpleasant experience with competitively inclined players.
@TrebleAmp
Жыл бұрын
2nd edition… god I’m old! 🤣🤣 still feels like yesterday that I was playing on the carpet with a cardboard cutout of a ork dreddy!!
@rononel8046
Жыл бұрын
When you say 'Overwatch was introduced in 6th' don't you mean 'Overwatch was REintroduced in 6th & it was now applied on the charge instead of being declared in your own turn to prevent or funnel enemy movement, like it was in 2nd'
@cuniving7831
Жыл бұрын
Allowing exhaust pipes, banners and barrels to allow a model to be targeted was such a fucking massive step back I still cant really believe it happened.
@Dirt1061
Жыл бұрын
Wow so many of the currently sold kits are from 4th/early 2000s!
@gdmunn83
Жыл бұрын
Got started in second edition nearly 30 years ago and have had every edition since, still not played a single game in 30 years 😂
@entropy2100
Жыл бұрын
Same. Started in 2nd end, quit in 3rd ed.
@gdmunn83
Жыл бұрын
@@entropy2100 glad I'm not the only one lol
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Similar story...! 🥲
@UserDenis_97
4 ай бұрын
Im afraid now .
@j.rivera1974
4 ай бұрын
A fate handed to many!
@floriannarratio8062
Жыл бұрын
I would love a similiar video on the history and evolution of codexes across the editions. This was super interesting
@theprussianmink
11 ай бұрын
It's good that the game is less complicated today, but I still think firing arcs from weapons attached to vehicles is a good idea, It's very strange that I can place my tank behind a building and shoot things out of its rear end.
@warkatwargaming2358
Жыл бұрын
As a DnD player and GM I feel I need to give RT a go. Seems alot more narrative focused
@larrywagner1432
Жыл бұрын
Having played Rouge Trader through 3rd before leaving the hobby, I was very disappointed with how much the competitive community had an impact on the games. For me (and that means very little lol) I feel like too much focus has been put on what amounts to a very small part of the gaming community. I still buy the model and paint them, but now I’ve moved to other games like Grimdark Future for my table top fun.
@PactoftheGame
Жыл бұрын
I would love a bat rep for every edition 😅
@korniestpatch
5 күн бұрын
I really miss armour values and initiative. I got in at 6th and its been downhill since. The year is 2050. You lost at rock,paper,scissors. You remove your mini that cost you half your salary
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Chef (and Beard)! Really appreciate the detail and effort. Great job, very informative, and much appreciated! I started in 2nd Edition but the dramatic change to 3rd actually stopped me playing for a couple of editions due to the perceived ‘dumbing’ down (it felt like the life and rich detail got sucked from the game to me)…Then we had the ‘dark days’ of GW’s draconian anti-customer/player era for the middle editions and I didn’t actually start collecting again until 8th Edition (albeit having studied and observed every edition) when GW Community actually reached out to players again… It’s been an interesting ride! 😅
@gurtana
8 ай бұрын
the thing about edition reviews is that they're very much based on the meta or perceived meta at the time. Whereas some gamers just enjoyed certain editions because they offered something the previous one lacked or overlooked. Overall, I'm impressed by the rules set crafting throughout the years that managed to appeal to and sustain hobby gamers coming back for more and more. Every edition has its good points. When the rules got too bloated, they were culled and then that alienated the players who liked the crunch. Then the rules were too simplistic and players wanted more and more for their armies. Look at the return of The Old World: Goes to show that gamer's didn't mind the hit and wound tables and all those extra rules. Again, not for everyone - and certainly not for new gamers to the hobby, but each edition has it's audience. And which edition you liked the most was probably dependant on what army you were running at the time and what the community was raging on about as to where it stacked in the tier listing of that edition.
@standarddeviation7963
Жыл бұрын
I've fallen off on watching your battle reports but your non battle report videos are always 1000 percent.
@elementzero8896
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would love to see some Battle Reports of older editions with some retro models!!!!
@squirecreamsicle
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video. 40K has been a huge part of my life since 2nd edition and I appreciate this trip down memory lane. I would love something similar to this but with factions and how their rules changed throughout the years (might be a bit of an undertaking but if there is anyone that can get it done, I know it’s you bosses).
@malmo7928
11 ай бұрын
Thank you, enjoyed that. Played Rogue trader through to 8th, so apart from being old enough to know better, that was an entertaining journey through different times of my life. More nostalgia flashbacks please.
@seanoneill1308
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Well done! I play a lot of necromunda and it's nice to learn how willpower, cool etc. Are adopted from 1st edition, which something I didn't know. 2nd is my preferred 40k, I really like it, especially hand to hand, which is easy once you know how. I think the hand to hand experience is similar to modern kill team.
@Binngoo-nc3xs
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, please do more like it. I had not realised that edition changes had been quite so regular for so long. And despite 8th and 10th being overhauls they are not as out of character as I thought.
@Gooch359
Жыл бұрын
This is great! I was out of the game from 3rd till 9th so its great to see how each eddition was in the time I missed. What would be cool is an individual video on each eddition, delving deeper in to the rules and maybe following each editions video with a battle report (I understand just how much work that would entail but a guy can dream 😅)
@kings5223
13 күн бұрын
Haven't played since 4th edition and man a lot's changed
@Hoptroffshobbies
11 ай бұрын
Remember the rogue trader days, played through to 3rd and started up again in late 5th, stopped in 7th and switched to 30k, now getting back to 40k in 10th
@valaquenta220
Жыл бұрын
It's insane to me how similar the statlines are compared to 36 years ago : movement, toughness, BS, WS yada yada yada it's all here...except everything else is completely different obviously, but still !
@max16
Жыл бұрын
as someone who has always loved warhammer but only got into the game and painting side of it in the last year.. this vid is just special. and makes me very depressed that i started doing this so late into it :P
@ShahbazBokhari
Жыл бұрын
What a blast from the past. Lads we’ve gotten so old. :’) Edit: Feck. 3rd edition. The first time I rolled dice in The Emperor’s Name. ❤️
@Bellerophon3
Жыл бұрын
Any plans to play through the editions? Give each edition a go, and see how they compare in the playing.
@paulk871
Жыл бұрын
One the one hand, nice video! On the other hand, this made me feel old.
@DaSkwire
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this vid. I've played every version and consequently suffer from "edition-bleed" for the rules. Great to have a vid that helps separate them again in my mind.
@peppermintshore
Жыл бұрын
I owned 1st edition, played the hell out of 2nd and 3rd but lost interest not long after 4th. Then in 2018 randomly a promo vid for Kill Team was released and my interest peaked again. Which i have played actively ever since. I have followed 40k since i came back but it hasnt peaked my interest as it just seemed too competitive, 9th was just more of the same. Then 10th came out and while i still love Kill Team im now building a votann army. Ive had a couple of test games so far and love most of the mechanics. But i would love to see a little bit more structure in the list building. My friend has faced space marine armies with heavy weapons spam and no basic troops. We now have a simple house rule. The rule of three is restricted by how many battle line units you have. If you have only one then its the rule of one, if you have two battle line then its the rule of two and if you have 3 or more then you can have the rule of 3.
@pauledwards9493
Жыл бұрын
Glorious to see the games development - I'm loving 10th personally, had loads of fun.
@redfoxvoice
Жыл бұрын
Damn... this was magnificent! DAEEEEEMON SAVE 🎉
@totesmcgotes8793
Жыл бұрын
Great in-depth video, having played 3rd & 4th it was good to look back. Then having a break until 9th and still playing in 10th it’s interesting to see what I missed. Would of been good to have had small details of when certain armies came out in the editions as well throughout.
@redfoxvoice
Жыл бұрын
Very similar situation here, nice summary too :) An evolution of the armies vid would be splendid!
@NavyDood21
11 ай бұрын
This is really cool. I never realized that the first edition was essentially a scaled up D&D combat and focused on smaller battles. It makes a lot of sense that it didnt start out with such big battles in mind.
@derekball3965
Жыл бұрын
Wow that was awesome. As a person who came in 3rd-4th edition then took a break until 8th . I really enjoyed that , wonderful
@terminatoruk4921
Жыл бұрын
What an incredible video - very well researched, excellent editing and delivery. Really enjoyed this - do more videos like this...many more!! 😊
@KevinvL
Жыл бұрын
Dear Chef (and Beard), this was amazing. Like a full fledged documentary. So well produced. So well presented. Amazing. You simply keep on making the best presentend and produced 40k-content.
@Paintydave
Жыл бұрын
This is just great! Could listen to stuff like this for hours!
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
24:33 those/we (BA) players DID lament! 😅
@RedHatRuss
Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable! I was about 3 years into fantasy battle when rogue trader launched. Among my group of friends (all of us about 12 years old) marines were the "joke" option because they were plastic, not "proper" metal models. How times have changed 😂
@toferkrz946
Жыл бұрын
I never got the elitism about metal models. It's simply an inferior material in terms of modelling ease and paintjob durability. Only thing it has going for it is the heft in your hand, which I can kinda get, but you can just glue washers under your base if you're so hung up about it... Then again, I never got the 'book smell' argument regarding ebook readers so what do I know...
@RedHatRuss
Жыл бұрын
@@toferkrz946 true, but 30 plus years ago, plastic models were legitimately terrible... To be fair, met ones weren't much better lol. These days, I'd hate to have to work with metal, it's such a miserable material to work with. I don't even like designing minis for metal, I was glad when my work switched to plastic minis as the process is much nicer from an engineering pipeline.
@MadMan-7978
Жыл бұрын
I joined in 9th edition, and I significantly prefer 10th over 9th
@DakotaMilesO
9 күн бұрын
The two worst editions
@entropy2100
Жыл бұрын
This is really cool
@InternetEthn
Жыл бұрын
vid rules, this was really cool to learn about, really have very little context to 40k outside of some books and 9th/10th edition. Loved getting to see how the game has changed!
@dr3147
Ай бұрын
Great video! As only came into 40K in 9th it’s always fun to learn about past editions. Perhaps you could do a review of each boxes in terms of the models/content and theme of them? And give some views on what would be good in the future.
@Damnedlegion40k
Жыл бұрын
Awesome content, highly recommend. Now please do a video of each new unit's added each edition, could even be multiple videos for imperial, xenos and chaos, thoughts?
@redfoxvoice
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@rainerhorbach955
4 ай бұрын
Brilliant summary! I started the hobby shortly after 2nd was released and it dominated my teen years. I was appalled by 3rd, never played it and gave up the hobby. I tried to restart in 8th, shortly before 9th, but am only finishing my army (GSC) now to start in 10th hopefully. My rules memory of 2nd is still quite fresh, so there will be quite a leap from 2nd to 10th. Looking forwar to tho!
@realmjammersoftheimaginari1906
Ай бұрын
Such impressive work, TT. That's a lot of detail to distill so cleanly - and so fairly. Full victory points to you all!
@somecuriosities
6 ай бұрын
My takeaway is that the last "great" version of classic 40k was 5th ed. Why don't we just all go back to playing that instead of giving GW more and more of our money?
@LittleIAO
Жыл бұрын
Epic video Chef! Good job to all of you who worked on it.
@jeffers1985
Жыл бұрын
really enjoyed the editions from 4-7th (playing since 2nd) and is a reason of me walking away from current 40k and going 30k. The current format in my eyes is an utter shambles and put me off the game (See Eldar's obscene abuse). Nothing coming out of modern 40k is working and is sticky plasters over sticky plasters and the attention to care has gone
@WTFChickens
Жыл бұрын
Am I crazy in having a vague memory of having to remove casualties from the side of a unit it was shot from in 6th? I remember running 20 hormigaunts and having holes in their formation from ordinance blast templates, that forced you to take casualties from under the blast template. Also, now that the Tyranid 10th codex has dropped, shouldn't it be mentioned at least how both Wargear and Points Per Model are gone? This is the main issue that I have with the edition and no one wants to talk about this. Remember how everyone in the community rejected Power Level, and now no one ever wants to talk about how we are stuck with Power Level? Balance can be solved. If we don't complain about Wargear and PPM loud enough, GW will take the easier and cheaper option of never giving those back.
@okillcrazyo1009
Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video! Brought back good (and bad) memories 👍😁 also, i highly recommend anyone who is 'on the fence' to signing up to on demand to take the leap, you wont be disappointed!!!!
@darijast2901
11 ай бұрын
Started at the dawn of 3rd, gave up at the start of 6th (flyer spam and a few other things), took up the mantle again after marriage, 2 kids and finding a career (start of 9th). 9th and 10th are great games and editions, I love the objective focussed gameplay preventing you just blasting the other player off the board as a viable route to winning (most of thr time). I do wish Geedubs would stop trying to treat 40k like a video game for the last two editions. It takes far longer for me to buy, build, and paint a unit than it does to download a patch in an online game. I've never meta chased, but from the point of buying a unit, I have now idea how good its going to be when I actually play the thing "legally" and fully painted
@tdlainc.4737
10 ай бұрын
6th edition was great and should have gone on for much longer. The allies chart needs to be brought back as it allowed armies to have "Lore" units that still don't have table top units, (Converting Tau Terminators to represent Xv46 battlesuits, using the Tactical marine squad as Squats etc)
@imperrettive
10 ай бұрын
Loved this....would like to see a How to play 2nd Ed video as this was when I started as a 12 year old, but cant for the life of me remember the rules. I just remember Terminators rolled 2D6 for saves!
@Reesily
10 ай бұрын
2nd edition is still my favourite and as many people have said I dropped off for a few editions with the launch of 3rd as I felt it took out all the stuff I enjoyed. Having fun with 10th and it’s a very different game not only in terms of the rules but also the sheer number of models on the battlefield. Remember in 2nd when you were lucky to have 3 squads of marines and maybe a couple of characters because the points costs where so much higher.
@melkezedek604
Жыл бұрын
I started in 3rd played thru 6 then took a break till 9. I sometimes forget about facing and glancing hits when playing modern, and how they don’t exist anymore, hell I sometimes forget I don’t need templates anymore lol. 5th was my golden age, simple enough to understand was kinda the final build of the original game
@j.rivera1974
4 ай бұрын
Another great video! This made me rush to my library to find my 3rd edition hardcover rulebook!
@adriansmith4536
28 күн бұрын
40k peaked around late 5th early 6th as far as I'm concerned.
@peters6345
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chef, great video :) puts things in perspective. Im enjoying 10th ed, hope it gets better from here
@DaSkwire
Жыл бұрын
"Follow-Through Fire" sounds much, much worse than "Following Fire". 😁
@Gnomelotte
4 ай бұрын
Nice video, quite informative. Bit of a bummer that nothing about 10th is being mentioned.
@TheEeeeron
Жыл бұрын
Nice little trip down memory lane, must be the nostalgia but I don't remember 2nd edition (my first and main edition) being that complicated.
@thedeadnotsleeping
11 ай бұрын
Make the codexes free and sell us a fancy book. I literally hate the idea of me paying $60 for a nice book only to have most of the data changed in two months and have to use my phone anyways.
@paulsturman7312
Жыл бұрын
I would love to have my 1st child edition book back. It fell apart on me with pages just coming out of the glue they used.
@earnestwanderer2471
Жыл бұрын
Just to point out, you would tend to expect people to learn from past mistakes and not repeat them. But I guess that’s really not the case in life, in general, let alone the microcosm of tabletop games. 🧐
@ROALD.
7 ай бұрын
Love this kind of history content. More! Maybe some history of lore development?
@dodgerdude7968
Жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, the 1st edition rules sound really good. Granted a bit cumbersome/involved.
@RobbieB2606
Жыл бұрын
Awesome show - reminded me of a Snipe and Wib history lesson. Very cool to see the last 35 years in motion
@j.rivera1974
4 ай бұрын
Wow... Fleet, been a long time since I've heard that rule.
@Tanuvein
Жыл бұрын
It seems like Necromunda uses more stuff from Rogue Trader than I realized
@JimKincaid
Жыл бұрын
1000th (monkey) like #win; where did your moniker (the chef) originate?
@Darby-qu6hz
3 ай бұрын
I never got a chance to play It. But I always wanted to was the epic game.
@chrissolway2216
Жыл бұрын
I am so excited to watch this. Hits the nostalgia button hard!!!
@opesam
Жыл бұрын
I feel like I've earned a degree by watching this! 😅 Well done Chef! 👏
@cavemanbum
2 ай бұрын
TBH, any game that needs 10 editions is NOT a good game. 🙄
@TrebleAmp
Жыл бұрын
Seems mad that we just moved 6’ for so long! 🤣🤣 how did we cope?
@jprovorse4159
Жыл бұрын
❤🎉
@cavemanbum
2 ай бұрын
Warhammer 40K 2nd Edition FTW
@Quick-Silver206
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear more about how the lore has changed throughout the years.
@rocmistro
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant work, Chef. Very interesting!
@HighlandPhoenix
Жыл бұрын
47:29 LOL 😂
@totalpartykill999
4 ай бұрын
i have a soft spot for 1st ed. i just love the old school aesthetics of it.
@Murphy-bx9oz
Жыл бұрын
You guys should stream some Dark Tide.
@Perkustin
Жыл бұрын
Great video! However i have one minor nitpick, i find the subtitle 'Hobby Showcase' somewhat unfitting. This is more of a retrospective of the Game System and really doesn't cover what I (and imo it's safe to say most others) perceive as 'The Hobby'. If this is a new format, A) it's awesome but B) i think it needs a new more fitting name.
@tabletoptactics
Жыл бұрын
This is a new format that will be covering all aspects of the game and hobby. For Chef the game IS the Hobby, for someone else it might be the lore, another might be something cool they've been working on in the background, and so on. It's a catch all term for the varying things we all enjoy about it 🙂
@wotfudboy
Жыл бұрын
Really interesting. Nice work.
@Apocalypes773
Жыл бұрын
This was super interesting, thanks Chef
@14DEADSOUL
Жыл бұрын
Great vid Chef, lot of work went into this one.
@ojsims38
Жыл бұрын
Man this brings back some nostalgia, mainly for crazy rules I forgot we used to deal with. Superbly done Chef. I miss deep striking BA land raiders........😅
@samdeacon5045
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video, not only the nostalgia from 3rd-7th but understanding where the current gameplay came from, 8tha & 9th (I WAS ON A BREAK! 😂) Cheers guys!
@hellospringlake
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video Chef and Beard! Having recently perused my copy of Cities of Death (2006) I couldn't help but notice how the charts in that book are calling 3 ruins claustrophobic and a reasonable number of terrain pieces to use in a game, and how that have changed radically when looking at 9th/10th, maybe a deep dive on just how the terrain and boards of 40k have changed over the years would make for an interesting deep dive? Especially with the brief highlights in this video on how line of sight and cover (with screening) have changed over the years?
@Abhothra
Жыл бұрын
More videos of Chef crunching numbers/mechanics? Yes please, perhaps explain how silly things like Smash Captains came to be? (And what GW did to counter if they did anything that is)
@S.A.S.H.
Жыл бұрын
Last year, 2022, marked my 30th year of following Warhammer 40k. That alone guaranteed my enjoyment of this wonderfully done flashback.
@TSINIproductions
Жыл бұрын
Watching the 3rd edition recap really reminds me why 40K feels so long to play now compared to then. Units were mostly moving OR shooting, not both, which basically halves the interaction with models during the game, you’re either moving the models or rolling shooting dice. Now in the modern versions of the game you’re always moving models and rolling shooting attacks. I used to play lots of turns in 3rd Ed, even massive games would rock on past turn 6 just because the game was getting quicker as units died. These days it’s a struggle to get 5 turns in an evening, though 10th is a huge improvement compared to 9th in that regard.
@montanaman654
Жыл бұрын
I played back in 3rd edition, and started watching channels like this one in 8th but haven't played any games since 3rd. From watching games it feels like the newer editions might be better for gameplay. But I feel 3rd edition had a lot of "flavor" where it felt like simulating a battle through things like vehicle armor values, blast/flamer templates, and how Weapon Skill worked in melee combat.
@Thoth_7
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I played heavy from 2nd through 4th, then got interested again through Kill Team near the end of 9th, and jumped back in full-force with the launch of 10th. It is an absolute delight to see both what I loved (and didn't love so much) about editions, as well as get a good overview of the editions I missed, and how the game evolved over time. A series dedicated to even more in-depth looks at previous editions would be absolutely brilliant... and with the quality and passion I've come to expect from Tabletop Tactics, would probably be held in great regard for years - if not decades - to come as a definitive history of the game.
@christaylor101
Жыл бұрын
Great video, really interesting 🤨
@mattiasgamin3891
Жыл бұрын
Love this! ❤ What a passion project of a video. Started playing in the later days of 1st Edition I can really appreciate the amount of work you put in to get all this together. All editions have had their great concept but also issues. Nowadays often wrapped up in a cozy cloud of nostalgia. 😅 For what it’s worth I actually believe 10th edition rules is the best version yet. Initial balance issues? Sure. But the game it self is better than ever. Great gaming days ahead! 🎉
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