my brain short circuited, kinda forgot i was watching cadence "great value blueberries" hira for a second
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
@@baconlettucepotato69 cadence "great value blueberries" hira is perhaps the worst way I have ever been described thank you
@mrhalfsaid1389
4 ай бұрын
@@CadenceHirabad description is the funniest description
@baconlettucepotato69
4 ай бұрын
@@CadenceHira you're welcome melody mistress
@G3Drummer-k8q
4 ай бұрын
the 18/8 terapagos fight is the most toby fox thing ever
@minine6508
4 ай бұрын
WE’RE SO BACK
@Flying_Ninja
4 ай бұрын
WE’RE SO BACK
@torna2508
4 ай бұрын
IT'S SO OVER
@tony1boss16
4 ай бұрын
BROS…
@eshasunrise
4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that's in 4/4 maybe 2/2, but I get the confusion, as it's built around triplets.
@waxsuyaaa
4 ай бұрын
we’re so back… splatoon reference
@maxfig7027
4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Cars 2: Lightning Returns
@2rocketguy
4 ай бұрын
An example of what I'd describe as 16/8 is the song Horizon from the Celeste mod Strawberry Jam, which has a 5+5+6 rhythm to it
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
ok that's a brain melter that I would say feels like 16 instead of 4
@shinboonsangnoom8191
4 ай бұрын
In there also exists 6+6+5.
@itmedana
4 ай бұрын
exactly what i was thinking!! might be my favorite track from the mod and i loveeee that the rhythm is always keeping u on your toes
@gtoast2053
4 ай бұрын
SJ experiments a lot with time signatures, Out of Time has a section that alternates rapidly between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4 without much of an apparent pattern, and there's a couple songs that are in straight 5/4 like the amazing Symphony in the Dark. And then of course there's Shattersong where the gameplay itself revolves around the 7/8, 10/8 and 13/8 time signatures of the music, which gets expanded upon in the heartside with Shatter the Pantheon, which is based on a 3:5 polyrhythm
@mrdrprofessor8849
4 ай бұрын
I'm just so happy Groove Coaster was even mentioned! What a neat find!
@Barranbee19
4 ай бұрын
A cool thing I noticed is that the Helldivers 2 theme is actually in 10/4. Something interesting for any fellow super earth musicians.
@minovies
4 ай бұрын
THE SEQUEL WE’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
@squidden
4 ай бұрын
liked the video just for that shot of you eating potato chips with your left hand and playing piano with ur right haha
@LimusTG
4 ай бұрын
In Splatoon 3's Salmon Run mode, there's a theme that plays during specific event / night waves called Frothy Waters Frothy Waters adds an additional eighth note after each bar after transitioning from 4/4 to 10/8, and it keeps adding an additional beat until it reaches 25/8. Afterwards, it goes to 6/8, then one bar of 10/8, then goes to 7/8. And after that, it repeats the same gimmick of adding an eighth note to every bar, but also increases in tempo. I don't think this should justify both 20/8(or 16) and 25/8(or 16) being taken off the bounty board of time signatures, since it doesn't stay on a constant time signature.
@genius31415
3 ай бұрын
2/4 in "Glory To Arstotzka! in Papers Please is truly phenomenal.
@radiak488
4 ай бұрын
a good example of 3+2+3 is “road to victory” from kirby’s return to dream land, i’ve noticed that hirokazu ando likes to play with different groupings of 2 and 3 in 4/4 (he also did “how to play” and the menu theme from melee)
@g_hoenig
4 ай бұрын
16:50 had me rolling on the floor
@brendanwebb5974
3 ай бұрын
please don’t stop making these videos
@johnathanrhoades7751
2 ай бұрын
In the larger number time signs it just feels like there should be a way to right “long, long, long, short, long, long, short, short” without having to resort to such large numbers.
@christopherswanson5849
4 ай бұрын
2+3+3 is a relatively common rhythmic pattern in drum and bass music. only example i can think of off the top of my head is “reiteration” by au5 at the 1:30 mark. but i know ive been to a few shows where the artist will switch up their song to follow this pattern
@jamozmynamoz6516
4 ай бұрын
My favorite odd 4/4 organization has to be 7 + 9. It has the same feeling as 3 + 3 + 2 but more relaxed, and instead of rushing the last part of the sequence it rushes the first. Bossa is commonly felt this way in smaller subdivisions; (2 + 3 + 2) + (2 + 3 + 2 + 2). Its a really fun yet still very easy to count way of subdividing 4/4 into a more interesting groove
@dannattack4211
4 ай бұрын
BG3 reference makes me so happy. Also you’re pretty good at smash.
@thislink1519
4 ай бұрын
Thought you said Cars 2: lightning returns. Was like, damn.
@lemmingrad
4 ай бұрын
That’s how I heard it too.
@kono152
4 ай бұрын
my favorite way to feel 9/8 is as 8 + 1, it just feels so cool to me, like a record skipping or something. A great example (not from video games) is Wax Wings by Periphery
@faereman
3 ай бұрын
If you're looking for more interesting time signatures in Groove Coaster, look no further than the "Got" series of songs. These are really fun both to play and listen to.
@RoseVerdict
4 ай бұрын
me, a hobbyist composer who likes making tunes for a hypothetical videogame idea, seeing the timesig bounty board: hold my beer
@metleon
4 ай бұрын
Assuming I did the math correctly, Marx's Theme couldn't have a consistent time signature below 191/4, which is the entire loop of the song. 191 is a prime number, so it couldn't divide down evenly, even if you tried to force the song to change sections in the middle of a measure. A lot of the song is in 3/4, though, and I think most of the other time signatures in the song only come about because it either adds or takes away a beat from 3/4.
@Yossus
4 ай бұрын
Still hoping to hear Into Tartarus as an example for 21/8, in my opinion a very convincing one as well!
@itryen7632
3 ай бұрын
Since we're now also looking at Rhythm game music, maybe you should look at the music made by the artist Frums. Or if you ever want to make a video about insane polyrhytms, you should definitely listen to the song 彁 from Taiko No Tatsujin. (No, there is no way to translate the title. Nobody even knows what that character means.)
@epiccg6872
4 ай бұрын
i did not remember that phoenix wright theme being an off time signature
@oops6876
Ай бұрын
20:05 that’s just a wonky Tubular Bells! 😦
@jamozmynamoz6516
4 ай бұрын
5:11 I think the Abel Sister's shop theme in New Horizons fits the 12-123-123 pretty well, which ironically you played at 7:10. The chords accent the 12-*1*23-*1*23 so it doesn't sound like a 1&2&3&4.
@jediyoshi64
4 ай бұрын
If we're counting funky boss battle time signature changes as possibly being individual measures, then what the heck should we call "Vs. Ridley"? I've always thought of it as 5/4 occasionally dipping into 3/4 and 4/4, but there isn't much of a pattern to the way it does that. It feels like 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 4. Surely we cant say Ridley's theme is 103/4.
@princekamoro3869
4 ай бұрын
That's just mixed meter. Aint no rule says every bar must have the same time signature. Consider Doom Dragon from Golden Sun The Lost Age. (5/8)x4 (intro only) + [ 6/8 + (7/16)x2 + (5/8)x4 + 3/4 + (4/4) ] x2 + (4/4) + (5/8)x6 + (12/16)x2 + (3/4)x8 + (5/8)x8 + (3/4)x3 + (5/8)x20
@a_creatorsstuff17
4 ай бұрын
I say look into kid icarus uprising songs of the aurum arc of chapters, more particularly thr aurum brain fortress chapter songs And as a non nintendo bonus, ultrakill's "Hear the siren! Song call of death"
@looseburdens4259
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Candace
@stupidjuggler2985
4 ай бұрын
There is a part closer to the end of The Ride (Thomas O'Toole) (a piece written for our band) which changes between 2 + 3 + 3, 3 + 2 + 3, and 3 + 3 + 2for 8/8. It was a pain to play and honestly I just counted to 8 whenever I wasn't playing since it was easier 😆. Idk if there are more common instances of it though.
@martinthemarine920
4 ай бұрын
It made me sad that you mentioned marx's theme but didnt play it and analyze it. not that there's much to say so i understand, but it would be fun to put in part three. love this one keep it up (you're right about those time signatures just being 4/4 by the way)
@coreycubed
4 ай бұрын
5:55 I’M NOT LAWFUL
@LamanKnight
4 ай бұрын
7:41 - Why, of course 1-1 exists in video games. That's the first stage of plenty of Mario games! (OK, I'm still watching the video, and still learning stuff. Excuse the interruption.)
@little_gubble
4 ай бұрын
if you're looking for a time signature greater than 31, the dragon quest iv battle theme has a brief section whose meter could be described as 45/8 with a pattern of 2+2+2+2+3+2+2+3+2+2+2+2+3+2+2+2+3+2+2+3 at about 38 seconds in kzitem.info/news/bejne/rJyDmnl5jWZ_dWU
@Isalick34
4 ай бұрын
It's obviously subjective, but I'm hearing it as 3 bars of 9/8(2+2+2+3), a bar of 2/4, and 2 bars of 7/8(2+2+3), which still adds up to 45/8 but the subdivisions are different
@little_gubble
3 ай бұрын
i personally hear it as a bar of 4/4, a bar of 10/8 (3+2+2+3), another bar of 4, a bar of 5/8 (3+2), and two bars of 7/8. i can see the argument for your subdivisions, though, especially since it doesn't require changing time signatures for 5 measures in a row
@brythkaltaris
3 ай бұрын
For Fight 1 (the 31/4 example) I hear 2 measures of 10 (123 123 12 12), 2 measures of 12 (123456 123456), then finally 3 measures of 6 (123456). Linda strange tbh. Not sure what time signature I'd describe it as, but certainly not 31/4. Something over 8 for sure
@Isalick34
3 ай бұрын
You could call it 62/8, but you can hear a hi-hat on the quarter notes making them sound more stable, which kind of makes it sound like the quarter note has the beat, but I'm fine with 31/4 and 62/8.
@670839245
4 ай бұрын
Question. For a repeating pattern that is large, uneven number of beats, is it more common for people to feel and notate in alternating smaller bars (eg, alternating 8 and 9) or feel and notate in the entire repeating section (eg, 17)?
@matmuntz
4 ай бұрын
The best example of 1/1 I can think of is Conlon Nancarrow's player piano study #26, which is a 7-voice canon moving entirely in whole notes. It's kind of a meme piece too because the rest of the studies focus on unplayable (by humans) rhythms like metric modulation based on the square root of 2 and absurdly fast boogie woogies. kzitem.info/news/bejne/x2qc0qqHbKCrnYIsi=gVosTENEqcANaY99
@croatiancowboy
3 ай бұрын
8:04 - Thanks Cadence, this made me want to vomit lmao
@Nekathe
4 ай бұрын
Another banger
@demidemonym
4 ай бұрын
part 3 had better cover Akrillic from Plok i swear (or any Plok track they all have varied amounts of funk)
@kosher_gains
4 ай бұрын
im 14 and im fluent in pretty much all of music theory now except for music history and time signatures and these do NOT seem fun to worry about cool channel i like your videos
@flyingpiggy1475
4 ай бұрын
Actually they are pretty fun. If you wanna get into this type of music , watch yogev gabay. He does more metal but he tackles this stuff amazingly. Music wise, tool is pretty good for grasping this stuff. Tigran hamasyan is amazing, listen to mockroot. Snarky puppy has some really cool songs like shapons vindaloo which is in 23/8 (7+7+9 or 2+2+3+2+2+3+3+3+3) Basically, everything(no matter how complicated) is broken into 3’s or 2’s which can either be built into 5’s or 4’s or into bigger numbers. Once you get that, everything makes sense. Well until you get into more complex stuff like meggsuggah or Phillip glass.
@jili0603
4 ай бұрын
I knew what 7/8 and 12/8 and I thought that I was so smart…
@boosterseat7414
4 ай бұрын
FIRE EMBLEM GAIDEN MENTION WE'RE SO BACK IT'S PEAK GRAHHHHHHHHH❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗
@brromo
4 ай бұрын
Marx's theme is actually a single bar of 330/8
@VogelkopSBP
4 ай бұрын
YOUVE SOLVED IT
@justaguy-ot4ze
4 ай бұрын
lol
@wesleynorris9429
4 ай бұрын
Literally how this video feels lol
@RoseVerdict
4 ай бұрын
canon to me
@princekamoro3869
4 ай бұрын
Director: "There are a couple of things I want to work on towards the end. Everyone turn to bar 1."
@MATroiano
4 ай бұрын
Love how you bring up the subjectivity of time signatures. I’ve always felt confused when musicians in my life spoke of them as so objective and innate.
@Sam-cn7vh
4 ай бұрын
love that this is how i find out that Toby Fox composed for pokemon S&V
@Lugmillord
4 ай бұрын
same
@waveframe235
4 ай бұрын
when i heard the professor battle theme i just knew it HAD to be him lmao
@someone4650
4 ай бұрын
He started out composing for SWSH too. I think they liked him and decided to keep him
@ivythay4259
4 ай бұрын
this was pretty well advertised.
@maddscraft5459
4 ай бұрын
Just wait until you find out he snuck a leitmotif from his Homestuck mpreg rock opera into the official soundtrack for Sword and Shield
@Typoczyn
4 ай бұрын
Two songs come to mind here: 1 - There's an "Allegro" variant of the JFA Examination theme, which adds a B section that's in 25 (3+3+3+2+2+3+3+3+3) rather than 27. (The A section is still in 27.) 2 - "Oh no! WASPS!!" from Bug Fables is one of the most rhythmically unusual songs I've ever heard in an RPG, due to its leaning very hard into Balkan-style rhythms,. Assuming I can count, the intro and A section are in 23 (2+2+2+2+3+2+2+2+3+3, or 11+12), the B section seems to be 29 (2+2+3+2+2+3+2+2+2+2+2+2+3, or 7+7+8+7) followed by 28 (2+2+3+2+2+3+2+2+2+2+3+3, or 7+7+8+6), and then there's a 4/4 guitar solo section for good measure.
@pikmaniac2643
4 ай бұрын
Bug Fables mentioned. Seriously tho, this game has a REALLY good ost.
@kmrose4741
4 ай бұрын
yoooo i mentioned Oh No! WASPS!!! in the comments of the last video! Bug fables mentioned ❤
@antehman2912
4 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that song way too many times getting world record to the point where I finally learned to tap my foot to it properly
@andeggbreaks
4 ай бұрын
2- never heard this before or seen any gameplay of Bug Fables, and yet I have to agree, this is rhythmically one of the most confusing songs I've ever heard (in an interesting way)
@clicktuck
3 ай бұрын
Animusic Seventh Alloy was made in a 7/4 7/4 7/4 8/4 pattern, 29/4
@TouhouEXPolaros
4 ай бұрын
Samsung Washing Machine with Sadness and Sorrow on the Background is quite something.
@planetoforts
4 ай бұрын
Song of the Year
@doremysweet9040
3 ай бұрын
holy shit, Renko Usami
@baconlettucepotato69
4 ай бұрын
The highest time sig I've ever seen was in "Entertain Me" by Armenian jazz pianist Tigran Hamasyan, which uses a staggering 256/16 time signature for two bars, lasting for about 25% of the song. The 256 notes are divided into 7 bars of 35/16 with a bar of 11/16 at the end. The 35/16 is divided into four sets of 5/16 and five sets of 3/16. The 11/16 bar is one set of five and one set of six. Later in the song it switches to 128/16, divided into three bars of 35 and one bar of 23. After that it switches to a completely insane 64/16 time signature with an absolutely ridiculous pattern, and if that wasn't enough it then layers a 4/4 polyrhythm on top of that. Truly bonkers if you ask me.
@normanj4007
4 ай бұрын
umm 4:4 polyrythm??
@rickhapstley3866
4 ай бұрын
@@normanj4007 being together with the odd time signatures is what makes it a polyrhythm, because there are two signatures being played at the same time. for example, 4/4 and 3/4 together would be 4 against 3
@baconlettucepotato69
4 ай бұрын
@@normanj4007 basically a 64/16 beat on top of a 4/4 beat, but because the 64/16 is divided so strangely, it still counts as a polyrhythm. I probably could have worded that better, to be honest.
@EndermanInASuit7
4 ай бұрын
Something makes me think it was designed to be that way...
@normanj4007
4 ай бұрын
@@rickhapstley3866 no it wouldn't, the beats are the same length.
@ehuehuehuehuehuehue
4 ай бұрын
If you want a really really weird one, one of the Sumeru Battle Themes from Genshin Impact is in 54/8 or maybe alternating 33/8 with 21/8. It’s called Gilded Runner and it follows the Fibonacci number sequence.
@yoisakikanade_
4 ай бұрын
i second this, unbelievably cool piece. genshin ost is insane
@lumii644
4 ай бұрын
yess! that theme is so fascinating
@buhguh-r8g
4 ай бұрын
Fibonacci sequence time signature? TOOL in Genshin confirmed
@SlyHikari03
3 ай бұрын
@@buhguh-r8gspiral out! Love seeing another tool fan in the comments.
@taursula
4 ай бұрын
i NEED u to talk about deluge dirge from splatoon 3- it starts at 12/8 and changes every measure up to 25/8, and then goes up to **5000 BPM.** all of the music from splatoon 3s salmon run is so fucking good, i also recommend listening to the songs that play during the big run event!!!
@blobtuna236
4 ай бұрын
"Cars 2: Lightning Returns" 💀💀💀
@Sobbleboy27
4 ай бұрын
20:08 "And then I'll grab a potato chip... AND EAT IT!!!"
@andrewribarich8266
4 ай бұрын
2 + 3 + 3 is the Smash Ultimate Results Screen music
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
that's TRUE you know with all of the shmultimate footage i recorded i definitely should have noticed that lol
@e-sarge345
4 ай бұрын
So glad to see more wacky time signature tunes -- and to see that Ace Attorney track on here! It's fun hearing your explanations, especially the thematically appropriate usage of 18 for Terapagos. Another Ace Attorney-ish track with a weird set of time signatures (or a normal time signature with some really obnoxious syncopation?) is Ghost Trick's 4 Minutes Before Death theme. It tricks you into thinking it's plain old 4/4 with the synth pattern in the first two measures, but then when the bass & drums kick in, something feels off if you count it in 4/4. Until recently, I thought it was some rubato tempo shifting or I was just going crazy, but I realized that the synth pattern changes slightly and the bass lines up with alternating 17/16 and 15/16 -- 4+4+5+4, then 4+4+3+4. And to make things even MORE confusing, later on the composer layers the original 4/4 version of the synth riff over top of the 17/16,15/16 bass pattern. It's subtle enough and the drums are sparse enough that it can get away with feeling like "4/4 and you're imagining things"
@scorchinglizard
4 ай бұрын
Ooohh that is so fascinating! I knew there was something off about that theme every time I heard it, but I could never figure out what it was
@videoband2807
4 ай бұрын
Yeah when I tried recreating this track a while ago the drums and bass were so confusing with those parts. I thought the synth pattern changed between when the bass and drums come in and when they fade for a moment but it’s the same pattern for both parts. The drums and bass are what make it sound completely different
the wizzard lizzard joke with the odd time signatures was peak
@notae5478
4 ай бұрын
Depending on how loosely you want to define "video game", the infamous music from "CrazyBus" is probably as solid an example of a 1/x time signature as anything.
@fehzorz
4 ай бұрын
It neatly fits in 2/4 or 4/4. There's a video of a drummer playing along to it and it isn't hard for him to find a groove. What key it's in on the other hand...
@LimeyLassen
3 ай бұрын
Well either that or it's just ???👁?/8 with the whole song as a single measure.
@professoryeetus8955
4 ай бұрын
18:10 AAAAAA I WAS SO PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO HEAR THIS POP UP!! i haven't thought about this song in maybe even a year now but i used have so much fun trying and failing to clap to it.. love ace attorney music
@rarebeeph1783
4 ай бұрын
re 1/1, around 2:20 : phrases of (usually 2, 4, or 8) bars can be felt as such in most music, unless it's particularly downtempo. if you hear a song use a 3-bar or a 5-bar phrase, it'll have a distinct feel to it that honestly doesn't get explored enough (presumably because it's not expressed in the time signature, so we don't think about it)
@ruskah0307
4 ай бұрын
the washing machine... fuck yeah, u fucking get it
@DeadweightLKS
4 ай бұрын
Two videos in and we’re still not talking about that Salmon Run time signature that can only be expressed as a formula, like x+1/4 or something
@LimeyLassen
3 ай бұрын
One of these days Nintendo is gonna make a boss theme you need calculus to notate
@josephschubert6561
4 ай бұрын
*4/12 is a thing; here me out.* Percussion music loves polyrhythms and syncopation. Typically 16th notes are grouped into fours to follow the pulse of 4/4 or 3/4, but drum music (usually snare or hi-hat) often accents every third 16th. This pushes the rhythm ahead of the beat and adds a triplet feel. In 3/4 you have twelve 16th notes. Accenting every third note gives you four accents for a 4:3 polyrhythm, which you could isolate as _four_ dotted-8th notes per measure of _twelve_ 16th notes. (Thus 4/12) This polyrhythm often gets used in 4/4 as well, but because sixteen is not divisible by three, the last four 16th notes are often accented on two's, creating a 3+3+3+3+2+2 impulse (which could be notated as 16/16 or 4/12+2/8). I've been playing music with this "on three's" accent pattern for years and I was always frustrated that there wasn't a word to describe it. It feels like triplets but it's not. "Triplet-like," "triplet-feel," and "psuedo-let" didn't cut it. It also didn't help that I saw it in 4/4 a lot more than 3/4 at first. (Probably because the groove is more funky in 4/4.) When I started playing a lot of songs with this 4:3 polyrhythm in 3/4 in my first year of college (and after watching your first video on weird time signatures) I realized the 4:3 in 3/4 could be expressed as 4/12. Except it's actually 4/6. 😅 Or maybe a dotted-8th note does equal a 12th note? There's a reason I'm a music major and not a math major. But the feel of four beats over twelve 16th notes (especially without an instrument playing the 4er note base rhythm) shifts the feel of the tempo, like it's a sped up 4/4 with 12th note subdivisions. (I think _that's_ the value that my brain is instinctively assigning 12 to: the triplets that show up in 4/4, rather than the dotted-8th in 3/4.) So maybe this rhythmic pattern is expressing 4/6, maybe it's 4/12, or maybe it's just a 4 : 12 polyrhythm and I'm overthinking it.
@FlameRat_YehLon
4 ай бұрын
Your first example should be 12/16+4/16. As for triplet-based polyrhythm, writing in 12/12 might work but there's no universal agreement I think, and without writing a lot of 3s, it's probably better to just write the "16th note = dotted 16th note" symbol which is more agreed.
@shreychaudhary4477
4 ай бұрын
re 10:27, my maths professor (Professor Stankova at UC Berkeley; she's absolutely goated) plays music videos before class while we enter. One day she played a bulgarian folk song called Kaval sviri and part of it had roughly the same 2-2-2-3 rhythm
@masonjohnsonmusic
4 ай бұрын
As soon as I heard 9/8 Balkan music mentioned I was waiting for someone to mention Kaval Sviri, suuuuuch a great piece
@BobbeDev
4 ай бұрын
I just realised you worked on a song in a dance of fire and ice end quote
@NC_IS_BETTER_THAN_SC
4 ай бұрын
a man of culture
@ariesunderground5936
4 ай бұрын
Wait what!? Which one?
@BobbeDev
4 ай бұрын
@@ariesunderground5936 world 7
@musicfriendly12
4 ай бұрын
True, I've noticed too
@The_Fabricator
4 ай бұрын
@@ariesunderground5936 World 7, Spin 2 Win
@rnelson1415
4 ай бұрын
"Some easy listening bangers" Now I'm just thinking about the dryer yelling at me to get off my butt
@chobies5383
4 ай бұрын
19:59 WAIT, THAT SONG'S FROM DEATH NOTE?!!! I thought it was a generic stock song! Edit: It is a stock song and they just used it in Death Note ( Don't you think they would compose original music for a popular anime?)
@youtubeenjoyer1743
4 ай бұрын
It is a generic stock song that was also used in death note.
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
as far as I'm aware it's an original composition from Death Note
@CapslockGoD
4 ай бұрын
@@CadenceHira The part you showed sounds to me like a (legally distinct) knock off of Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield which is used, covered and iterated on so much that it maybe reads to many as generic I don't know
@John-fh8vy
4 ай бұрын
The Brinstar Underground theme from Super Metroid is in 8/8, but its split into a group of 3/8 and 5/8 (yeah i know the melody splits it into 332, but you wont know that until the melody actually starts)
@Fennquadnine
4 ай бұрын
0:01 Mom, that’s me. Awesome follow-up!
@Fennquadnine
4 ай бұрын
Also, my favorite example of 16/8 is some parts of Reach for the Summit from Celeste. Some of the background is in 3+3+3+3+2+2
@sbdg8289
4 ай бұрын
12:39 Lizard WIZARD ????????
@professoryeetus8955
4 ай бұрын
a lizard wizard eating gizzard in a blizzard with their best friend (who is an izard)
@adealtas
4 ай бұрын
polygondwanaland ?????
@ChristopherFossMusic
4 ай бұрын
Essence of Metroid Prime, the second phase of the final boss track, has some spicy shifting (or mixed) time signatures! YT Link to track: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lWh3mamfoIuJpoYsi=z_F94cMtyg5Ii_RC&t=1m41s At 1:41, we have 28/4 - or 7/4, 6/4, 7/4, 8/4 when it's considered as mixed measures (I count the beats [quarter notes] as 4+3, 4+2, 4+3, 4+4) - it proceeds to repeat this once... AND THEN (at 2:03), it's followed up by 23/8 for two measures! (6+6+6+5 [eighth notes, so count twice as fast!] - or alternatively, 3+3+3+3+3+3+2+3). It's a doozy! :D
@Glasshouse828
Ай бұрын
The final stage of Gradius IIi has a theme with a time signature of 25/16. “Mr.Smiley” from Sonic Adventure 2 goes 42/16 for one sextion
@WaitingForTheHook
4 ай бұрын
Do a video on the music theory of NewJeans songs. Their songs have rad chord changes
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
In my backlog! :D
@LamanKnight
4 ай бұрын
Alright, I think I finally had a moment of epiphany. Since watching the Part 1 video, and while watching this one, a few times I wondered, "Why bother notating this as, for instance, 27/8, when you COULD just write it as a measure of 14/8 and then 13/8? I know some songs change time signature in the middle. I've even played a few of those." But then I suddenly got it. Even though I have an intermediate amount of experience with music, and playing a few instruments, I didn't get to the point of learning more advanced music theory. On the other hand, I went to university to learn writing, so I DID learn a lot about the mechanics of writing and language. That's why the analogy that came to my mind was, "You would write a song in 27/8, instead of alternating phrases of 14/8 and 13/8, for the same reason you might write a long, complex sentence using semicolons; your words would still make sense, would still be correct, and would still be easy to comprehend if you just split them into multiple sentences; it just conveys a slightly different idea when you do, and you might lose some of the power behind your words if you interrupt their flow." So... yeah. I finally came to understand the rationale behind these time signatures, by likening them to sentence structure. Very nice. And thank you for leading me to this revelation.
@PeculiarPumpkin07
4 ай бұрын
If you ever make another one of these videos, I think Frothy Watters from Splatoon 3 could be interesting to take a look at Although this song isn't really in one time signature, it keeps extending how long each bar is by one beat, which is still quite cool I also believe it covers the 20/16
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
On my list! Will talk about it in a "Mixed Meter" video when I eventually return to time signatures lol
@adamocarrillo344
4 ай бұрын
Cars 2 left me completely stunned, so happy you made a part 2 to this.
@kyancoqie
4 ай бұрын
time signature enthusiasts rise up 🗣🗣🗣 i was waiting to hear you talk more about nintendo music, some of my favorite video game tracks have unique time signatures :)
@sylvanhrowberry
4 ай бұрын
I'd say something about Bellum's bossfight from Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. It's in 13/8 time and is counted 3 3 3 2 2. Subterranean Hell form Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is in 7/4, 6/4, and 5/4 throughout the whole song. Ascend to Destiny from Golden Sun: Dark Dawn is in 6/8, very fast tempo Results screen from Mariokart 7 is in 6/4 as a reference to mariokart 64 also i forget if this was said already in one of the previous videos but fishing frenzy from splatoon 2 and 3 is in some wacky time signature that i forget
@supersonic4863
3 ай бұрын
12:37 i hope king gizzard isnt there to help his buddy the lizard wizard in fighting you. thatd be rough.
@NathanPlano
4 ай бұрын
8/8 is so underrated, the asymmetrical groupings make it feel like a spicy 3/4. an awesome example of a fast 3+2+3 from classical music is the final movement of Rautavaara's 1st piano concerto: kzitem.info/news/bejne/q3x_raN4cKR8amU
@xFranzinox
4 ай бұрын
The chorus from Willow Smith Symptom of Life, to me feels as 8/8. A compound time signature version of 4/4, just as 6/8. There is a binary feel to it, not 4 distinct beats, but two, just like 6/8, but instead subdivided in 4.
@Catman_321
4 ай бұрын
Another interesting thing about that song is that it uses 7/4 during the verse. In the verse it alternates between two approaches of 7/4, using it like a 12/8 groove but adding 2 eighth notes at the end, like 3+3+3+5. It also has a bridge/pre-chorus section with some much weirder subdivisions which seem to follow into the next measure, like 14/4: 3+5+2+4. The 4/4 or 8/8 chorus serves as a resolution to the unnerving instability of the verse. Notice how the chords become much more conventional as well. I love how much thought went into this song in writing.
@brianb.6356
Ай бұрын
I feel the 3+3+2 and 3+3+3+3+2+2 grooves *extremely* strongly, like more strongly than any other groove in either this or the previous video. (And my reaction to the 4/4 analysis of those grooves was "What? That doesn't make any sense. You're just playing a totally different time signature over this clearly different groove.")
@therealyugimoto4106
2 ай бұрын
20/8 in “The Filthy Mind” by DM Dokuro for Terraria’s Calamity mod. A true treasure trove of fun time sigs. Really it’s continuously alternating 9/8 and 11/8 but it still counts, right?
@eclipsehorizon4045
4 ай бұрын
I’ve been C O N S U M I N G the first part, and already a second one ready for consumption is amazing 🗿
@adumbusername1440
4 ай бұрын
The only time I've ever seen a different subdivision of 8 is a 3 + 2 + 3 in Oscar Navarro's "Libertadores." (its technically it 8/16 but whatever) Example: kzitem.info/news/bejne/05ea2oWCh6eHaGk
@pillowy9726
4 ай бұрын
Could you make a video on Ace Attorney music? I think the theming the music has is very interesting, which could be great for you to explain since I think you’re a really good teacher/explainer. Also, I can’t figure out what time signature this piece is kzitem.info/news/bejne/l2yCqZp8qnuTdHYsi=SFmR4fssqB8ZTIyy nor do I have an explanation
@CadenceHira
4 ай бұрын
it's 16/16! (or 4/4 if you're chill) 3+3+3+3+2+2
@pillowy9726
4 ай бұрын
I have a friend who thought it was 4/4 and another friend who thought it was 16/8. I think I’m on side 16/8 (?). As you said in the video though, time signature is pretty subjective. Crazy how 3 different answers for this question all seem correct
@Artemka2009_SB
4 ай бұрын
Personally I think of 27/8 as 3+3+3+5+3+3+3+4 my brain sometimes combines the 3s into nine and rarely divides 4 into 2+2 but that doesn’t change the feel for me. It just depends on how my brain feels today
@Ribiveer
4 ай бұрын
03:00 Oh yeah the track with the E.M.M.I. nois- wait a second! The E.M.M.I. were only introduced in Metroid Dread, but that definitely sounds like the E.M.M.I. noise!
@hyper-neutrino
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I have to agree with your assessment of 8/8 and 16/16 still feeling like quadruple time. I guess it doesn't help that I've been doing music nearly my whole life so when I hear unusual/difficult rhythms I always habitually figure out how to count them relative to a stable beat and then feel that beat, but it does make me perceive all of your 8/8 examples as just 4/4 and it takes some effort to feel the syncopation as the main subdivision. Anyway, great video! Although I've been doing music for so long I was mostly classically trained so my experience is a lot stronger with the more common time signatures and your last video and this one were very insightful.
@s_cabbage
4 ай бұрын
THE WASHING MACHINE JINGLE GOT ME
@StrwbryWhtChcltWhtStrwbryChclt
4 ай бұрын
"Oh No! WASPS!!" from Bug Fables is an example 23/8
@Platonic69
2 ай бұрын
More people need to know of this song
@SCoreReMake
4 ай бұрын
Times like these is when I'm glad that Kirby and the Forgotten Land's equivalent of the jukebox has an indicator for where the beats are - the Waddle Dees themselves. They vibe to the beat of the music and even speed up/slow down if the tempo of the track changes. This is especially helpful for tracks such as Hunted by the Beast (theme of the second-to-last boss of the main game and also a massive spoiler) where the music is... uh... interesting, let's just leave it at that.
@Hylian_Waffle
4 ай бұрын
Could you check out The Courtroom's Magician from Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney?
@Peepimus
4 ай бұрын
“uM, aCtUaLlY… yOu CaN jUsT pLaY tHe SaMe NoTe On LoOp To Be 1/1.!.!” - ☝️🤓
@ZZZZierra
4 ай бұрын
a good example of 8/8 3+2+3 is credits by frums (technically a video game song if you count adofai), in the "verses" (i use verses in quotations because it's just the part that isn't the main section) it uses a 3+2+3 groove that is outlined by a 2+1+2+3 breakbeat. pretty cool imo
@skorupigo5544
4 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that one of the sonic shuffle songs can get pretty wacky so maybe you should check that out Edit: Heart of heat
@rko2016
4 ай бұрын
8:30 thank you so much for saying this, most music theory is always thought as dogmatic and when there's concepts that don't fit in, they try to shoehorn it in anyway, further conviluting an already confusing topic. time signatures are for orchestras, drummers who are trying to wrap their heads around rudiments and nobody else.
@gdb2231
4 ай бұрын
Fun fact in the elden ring final battle theme, the second movement of the song when the choir leads it (aka when you fight the elden beast) the song changes from a strong 2/4 into a laid back yet very powerful 9/4 feel. 👍
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