I've always been fascinated by turtles and sharks that supposedly live to be hundreds of years old. Imagine the animal just doing its thing, meanwhile all these massive historical events for humans are happening. Like the turtle was around during the American Revolution, still kicking it today.
@Dedjkeorrn42
Жыл бұрын
No matter how much humans fight over resources, the turtles still just be turtling around.
@theothertonydutch
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they won't. Because most of our resources get turned into trash and end up in the ocean, fucking up those turtles.@@Dedjkeorrn42
@beanoptodon
Жыл бұрын
@@Dedjkeorrn42Until we further damage the ecosystem and kill them all off :(
@blokin5039
Жыл бұрын
Just shows you how young the United States is.
@titanofserpents4315
Жыл бұрын
That could make for an interesting video; a video about animal species that live long lives.
@ericvulgate
Жыл бұрын
Turtles, crabs, snakes, dolphins- archetypal shapes for specific lifestyles. I think we'll find similar creatures filling similar roles on other worlds.
@zoch9797
Жыл бұрын
Or aliens that look like those creatures. Fluid dymanics is true everywhere.
@SuperMrHiggins
Жыл бұрын
Without a doubt on planets like ours, imagine on other types of planets there's just some mind blowing stuff tho.
@nick3xtremegaming212
Жыл бұрын
Turtles, Crabs, Snakes, Dolphins. Long ago the 4 body layouts lived in harmony, but everything changed when the snakes attacked.
@entropicflux8849
Жыл бұрын
only if we bring the creatures there to fill them.
@patreekotime4578
Жыл бұрын
Convergence in tetrapods especially really shouldnt be surprising, because the tetrapod toolkit is fairly limited. Four limbs... they can lose limbs, but dont gain new ones, the basic arrangement of organs is fairly set, and bilateral symmetry is standardized. The likelihood of a alien species convergently approaching the basic tetrapod toolkit and then also convergently evolving these Earth forms seems incredibly unlikely to me. Even after a billion years, non-tetrapods havnt convergently evolved the tetrapod toolkit even with the same exact environmental pressures. 🤷
@Funkiotologist
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been reading a book on Ancient Reptiles and it’s fascinating how diverse the entirety of Sauropterygia was and in particular it feels like Placodonts and Saurosphargids were made to mess with how we put together turtle evolution 😂
@curtiswfranks
Жыл бұрын
Title?
@DawnFire05
Жыл бұрын
What book is it?
@Funkiotologist
Жыл бұрын
@@DawnFire05 Smithsonian Books Ancient Sea Reptiles, by Darren Naish. I got it for the beautiful illustrations but it’s so knowledgeable. I’ve wanted to start reading more and I realized “wait I already read paleontology papers I should just get books on it”
@Funkiotologist
Жыл бұрын
Also published in 2022 so very timely except some new discoveries that don’t really change much save the fact that saurosphargids are apart of sayropterygia as stated in this video
@frankieg3409
Жыл бұрын
@@Funkiotologistwhat was wrong with Curtis wanting to know the title of the book?
@supremekermit
11 ай бұрын
“I can’t wait to see what turns into a turtle next” *slowly transforms into master oogway*
@tell-me-a-story-
4 ай бұрын
“There are no accidents.”
@cevatkokbudak6414
2 ай бұрын
sorry for thoughting that youtuber
@maddo1069
Жыл бұрын
The fact I watched this and said "oh wow so like armadillos" immediately before he mentioned armadillos and then said "ooo like ankylosaurus" immediately before he mentioned ankylosaurs made me unreasonably proud of myself for 1:15 in the morning
@Deezmok
3 ай бұрын
Ur gay
@Zakuro365
2 ай бұрын
Dude I’m here at 1:09 😂
@cevatkokbudak6414
2 ай бұрын
lmao
@DeuxisWasTaken
Жыл бұрын
I really like the short explanation of convergent evolution I first heard from Casual Geographic - "convergent evolution is like two people getting the same answer on the same test". It very well illustrates that under similar evolutionary pressures it makes sense for unrelated organisms to develop similar adaptations.
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
And the two people can be thousands of miles apart.
@gdsauyguyv
10 ай бұрын
@maryeckel9682 and millions of years apart
@rafaelgonzalez4175
9 ай бұрын
Convergent evolution according to this meaning is simple learning. Two people getting the same answer learned the same thing to be tested on. Therefore they are supposed to get the same answer. Thousands of miles apart. Centuries from each other. Geez. Can you make it more difficult please.
@philipbaity7083
9 ай бұрын
It assumes however that they got the same answers purely by luck
@DeuxisWasTaken
9 ай бұрын
@@philipbaity7083 they got many answers by random chance, but only the correct ones survived.
@sykens587
Жыл бұрын
I would love more convergent evolution videos. It's one of my favorite phenomenons in paleontology!
@araksi7404
Жыл бұрын
same!!
@westzed23
Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@Futurebound_jpg
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@KRAPYBARA84
Жыл бұрын
Same! Its my favorite topic!
@jessicag.3694
Жыл бұрын
x6 :)
@richardlecomte4874
10 ай бұрын
Eventually the turtle will evolve into crabs
@pantherowow77
10 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@BildadtheShuite
4 ай бұрын
Crab is the final form
@recoil53
3 ай бұрын
Turtles are just crabs with less legs.
@1LLog1K
3 ай бұрын
And crabs into crabbier crabs 🦀
@treeofwisdumb11234
2 ай бұрын
It's almost there
@MarcusWolfWanders
9 ай бұрын
ankylosaurs: "am I not turtle-y enough for the turtle club? turtle - turtle! *turtle noises*"
@zerjiozerjio
7 ай бұрын
OMG, I love you so much for making this reference 😂❤
@GuLuBa
7 ай бұрын
@@zerjiozerjioi don't get it pls explain 😢😭
@RosinGoblin
7 ай бұрын
@@GuLuBaits from a movie called Master of Disguise
@StatedClearly
2 ай бұрын
Ben, thank you for this and your other turtle evo video! I've been wanting to wrap my head around this for a long time but, as you said, it's a mess of rabbit hole! Debates in paleontology are infamously hard to follow.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
Жыл бұрын
So basically all life wants to evolve into two forms: turtles and crabs. Not coincidentally, both are slow-moving and heavily-armored creatures that mostly (but not exclusively) live in or near water. It just occurred to me that this process of things evolving into turtles could be happening right now. Look at marine iguanas compared to their land-lubbing cousins: a wider, flatter body is pretty evident even though the species is less than 5 million years old. Who knows what they'll look like in 50 million years, if they still exist.
@minoadlawan4583
Жыл бұрын
Animals losing their limbs and turning to snakes have been more common. The worm body plan is much more prolific than either crabs or turtles.
@RTaco
Жыл бұрын
The shark body plan is super popular, too.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
Жыл бұрын
@@RTaco ?? Only among sharks.
@RTaco
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDrummondPhoto Ichthyosaurs and cetaceans, too.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
Жыл бұрын
@@RTaco good point.
@AlbertaGeek
Жыл бұрын
Turtles and crabs. Obviously tank builds are the way to go.
@tricksterjoy9740
Жыл бұрын
Sheer HP/Damage Tank builds
@rageboibruh
Жыл бұрын
What about the crocodile?
@recoil53
3 ай бұрын
@@rageboibruh Stretched out turtle.
@teo2805
2 ай бұрын
Crabs are berserkers duh, and scorpions are rogues😅
@nanimaonovi2528
13 күн бұрын
Carefully checks for placoderms before agreeing 😬
@dianabutterfield9519
Жыл бұрын
Dude, you have an uncanny gift for synthesizing vast amounts of information, and in turn interpreting and communicating the results clearly. Thanks so much for sharing your research with us!!
@nikolasduley4711
Жыл бұрын
This is my first time seeing him and I couldn't agree more! I subscribed :)
@webviking
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if more humans were as intelligent, educated, and protective of nature as he is. Most humans are selfish, stupid, ignorant, uncaring about nature, materialistic, obnoxious, and polluting.
@jon420
Жыл бұрын
@@IsayahH-xm7qlEvolve
@kathybramley5609
Жыл бұрын
Nah he lost me at suggesting organisms copied the first one to get good at surviving in a particular niche, like it was like cheating in an exam or rebuilding your battle bot.
@LobsterCucumber
Жыл бұрын
You mean he's organized? Great skill, lol. He's going in chronological order making it simple to stay on topic and tell the story from beginning to end. Again, great skill. Lol.
@Tyrantlizardking105
Жыл бұрын
The plastron emerging first makes a lot of sense to me- as typically many animals focus their defense on/over their underbelly, since the vital organs are arranged closer to the abdomen than the back. Such as Primordial pouch in cats. The Carapace forming afterwards seems very logical
@MommyOfZoeAndLiam
8 ай бұрын
Especially if they were living in the water but breathing air, meaning they would often swim near the top and possibly be attacked from below (I am picturing the way sharks come up to attack their prey) so having a harder belly would be more important than a harder back....if they were being dive bombed by birds perhaps it would be different.
@hedgehog3180
6 ай бұрын
Humans have this too in the form of fat deposits around our stomach, though only some humans primarily store fat there. The downside of this is that it also puts you at a higher risk of developing Diabetes Type 2, so in the modern world this kinda sucks actually.
@captainstroon1555
Жыл бұрын
It would be fun to see a video of this kind on worms, snakes, eels, weasels, and all the elongated critters built for digging and/or swimming.
@mudgetheexpendable
Жыл бұрын
Turtles, crabs, and beetles are apparently gawd''s favorite children.
@elio7610
Жыл бұрын
Probably mostly just that they are all significantly armored; armored creatures are naturally gonna be resistant to predation. Armor functions without any effort, unlike evasive and offensive methods of defense that require keen perception and skill to be effective.
@hedgehog3180
6 ай бұрын
God apparantly has a thing for small little armored dudes considering how many trilobites there were as well. Humans seem like more of an afterthought.
@madhammer232
4 ай бұрын
No... So called black people are
@pythoncasey
2 ай бұрын
"crabs" only appear in arthropods, "turtles" only appear in tetrapods, while "Worms" transcend phyla, if you include the 10+ separate times lizards became legless, amphibians that become eel-like, even all the different unrelated fish that become eel-like, then you find every single animal phylum (except echinoderms, sponges, and cnidarians) have at least one member called a "worm"
@jusakikun
Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely like to see you cover other examples in this level of detail. Keep up the great work.
@BenGThomas
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'll definitely be doing some more videos like this :)
@Cat_Woods
Жыл бұрын
@@BenGThomas Yes would also love to see a part 2 on later turtle evolution.
@bluestormpony
Жыл бұрын
@@BenGThomas yes me too i would very much like to see more videos like this!
@br.j9145
Жыл бұрын
We actually distinguish tortoises, turtles, and terrapins in the U.S. too. Although admittedly the latter is only referred to when we are speaking of a particular species. Maybe our scientists don't make these distinctions - but the ordinary person does. Really enjoy all your shows! You can't trust all KZitem videos on such subjects - but you bring all the current studies - including the ones that challenge each other. In other words, you don't just state "facts" (which may either be out of date or still under discussion) as so many "scientific" YT channels do - so I know I can trust you for the current information. Excellent work. Thank you. Enjoying your new backgrounds too.
@nelle5339
Жыл бұрын
Seconded. I haven't heard of terrapins before, but tortoises and turtles are different and not used interchangeably.
@offbeat4772
Жыл бұрын
I have a pet tortoise and pretty much anytime someone sees him they call him a turtle. At least in my experience, people call anything that looks similar to that a turtle
@captainmycaptain8334
Жыл бұрын
turtle is the catchall phrase but when we need to actually specify we'll say tortoise or turtle or terrapin, at least in my area. for other places it might change as america is so large things tend to change from place to place.
@psal8715
Жыл бұрын
@@offbeat4772 Not my experience where i live, though we dont really have turtles here but have tortoises.
@andrewkawam2603
Жыл бұрын
1:42 As always, can't get enough of how Ben says tortoise.
@moonclip9997
Ай бұрын
Tohtoece
@step6584
8 ай бұрын
I feel personally attacked that you assume I don’t know the difference between a turtle and a tortoise.
@nathanzink5283
4 ай бұрын
The arrogance lol
@spinonoorsYT
4 ай бұрын
Turtle: tortoise that lives mostly in water Tortoise: turtle that lives ONLY on land
@TayWoode
4 ай бұрын
He said he’d keep it simple and use American terms, they love to yap on about why things aren’t made to suit them, metric vs imperial, mph vs kph etc
@homeschoolprojectsandprese1053
4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@nathanzink5283
4 ай бұрын
@@TayWoode we know what he said, I’m telling you that Americans absolutely differentiate between Turtles/Tortoises/etc so he’s wrong
@hyfy-tr2jy
Жыл бұрын
My instincts tell me that this "turtle" body form is a consequence of surviving in shallow seas, and when I say shallow, think less than a few feet deep. This broadened body plan could have you navigate these areas without breaking the surface, be able to pin yourself to the bottom as a defensive tactic and as a consequence the broadening of the body plan would probably also have the bones naturally widen to continue the flattened body plan and eventually fusing.
@book-obsessedweirdo8677
Жыл бұрын
Plus if something does see you and/or step on you the shell provides protection.
@hyfy-tr2jy
Жыл бұрын
@@DKShoneys-dc2dp Oh i have no doubt....just like fish that are vertically flattened....creating one dimension of your anatomy to be as large as possible makes it harder for you to be swallowed and thin makes you harder to notice
@jrmckim
Жыл бұрын
Wow I would've never guessed the bottom of the shell was the first to form. Turtles are so fascinating 🐢
@TheNeo349
Жыл бұрын
dawkins has a nice long passage on turtle evolution in "the greatest show on earth" his book on evidence for evolution, describing this very peculiarity.
@sammadison1172
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed learning about how I was supposed to believe tortoises are turtles, because I'm American. Unfortunately I missed that lesson.
@vanhattfield8292
Жыл бұрын
A strong foundation is required for any solid structure, whether it is something man made or something that is a product of nature. How could the top of the shell develop first if there was nothing below to support it?
@Grama04
10 ай бұрын
actually for me bottom shell being first has more logic in it but I think I will never get how the entire skeleton grown out . after long years of study paleontology and sedimentology I didn't even come close to understanding this type of evolution. I still think its totally impossible without a written genetic program.
@regulargoat7259
7 ай бұрын
@@Grama04 you’re not an evolutionary biologist. Your qualifications in other fields don’t make you any more adept at understanding evolution, the same way my qualifications with databases doesn’t make me an expert in spreadsheets, merely an amateur with an interest in them. Don’t Dunning-Kruger yourself into being incurious or writing off a natural phenomenon as false.
@Sarafimm2
Жыл бұрын
Convergent evolution and parallel evolution have always been fascinating to me. I would love to see more videos like this one.
@rays7805
11 ай бұрын
Do turtles go down rabbit holes? Could Achilles outrun these turtles in a foot race? "Which saurus?" "Oh, eunotasaurus."
@noneya8866
7 ай бұрын
You ever think about how it's weird that turtles and frogs both have spilt into a water version and land version turtles being tortoises and frogs being toads
@andauril
Жыл бұрын
that was super interesting! I'd love to see more about cases of convergent evolution for sure. Maybe "everytime things evolved into dolphins" (the bodyplan shows up a lot), everytime things evolved to have horns on their face, everytime things evolved into dogs (andrewsarchus looked a lot like a kind of canine but wasn't one; hyenas are not canines despite appearances; hyaenodon is also very dog-like in apperance despite not being a canine; and then there are thylacines ofc ... and those are just the ones i can come up with right now). Convergent evolution is so fascinating
@dudotolivier6363
Жыл бұрын
Andrewsarchus wasn't at all dog/wolf-like like it is still time to time portrayed. It was a very close relative to the Entelodonts, aka the Killer Pig or Hell Pigs, who themselves, despite their name, were close relatives to Hippos and Cetacean (Whales and Dolphins) than Pigs. Andrewsarchus was firstly thought to be member of a group of hoofed dog-like animals, them once thought to be related to Cetacean, the Mesonyxian. Which was still believed by some people to be the case at the early 2000's, and hence why Andrewsarchus is depicted as a Mesonyxian, and as such as dog/wolf-like, in the BBC documentary "Walking With Beasts" in episode 2 "Whale Killer". An great obsolete image that still somewhat persist despite the new recent discoveries.
@lorencalfe6446
Жыл бұрын
‘Trees’ is one example. Any homoplasy polyphyletic group will do. Also Dogs ‘copied’ andrewsarchus since andrew came first. The canines are the imposters 🤪
@lorencalfe6446
Жыл бұрын
Technically plants dont have true ovaries since their ‘ovaries’ evolved completely independantly of ours. Alot of biology revolves around polyphyly. “True” is such an inaccurate word though. Who are we to say which taxon is the most authentic of the body plan?
@lorencalfe6446
Жыл бұрын
@@dudotolivier6363 if dogs grew to the size of rhinos they would look like carnivorous hippos too.
@MossyMozart
Жыл бұрын
@@lorencalfe6446 - "Dire Hippos"?
@weaponizedemoticon1131
Жыл бұрын
Conceptually, couldn't several beetle species be considered turtle like? With pre-retracted heads, hard shells on top and bottom, short thick legs, I think they might fit.
@brianedwards7142
Жыл бұрын
Cassidinae also known as tortoise beetles.
@vince-zm8ds
10 ай бұрын
@@brianedwards7142 mf you just blew my mind
@bleepbloopskrrr
9 ай бұрын
Those are also invertebrates though
@weaponizedemoticon1131
9 ай бұрын
@@bleepbloopskrrr I am aware. Please elaborate.
@Dankster-yo8xv
8 ай бұрын
no they're beetles
@NoahLavineASP
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite convergence in evolution is lungs. I know it's not a true lung, but the fact betta fish and other fish species can breath air is so incredible to me. And how it's just an adaptation for the poor oxygen levels in the betta fish's natural environment. Or other fish being able to do it to move from one body of water to another. Absolutely incredible.
@hedgehog3180
6 ай бұрын
A similar example is blood which I think evolved at least thrice.
@SaiakuNaSenshu
Жыл бұрын
Okay you Turtle, but do you Crab?
@thenoxxyboy
Жыл бұрын
If the crab theory is carcinization, what's the turtle theory?
@HypochondriacStudios
Жыл бұрын
Testunization
@VVabsa
Жыл бұрын
The Turtling.
@simplypink8375
Жыл бұрын
@@VVabsa i second this one
@swegs1
Жыл бұрын
@@VVabsathis is gold
@ZeFroz3n0ne907
Жыл бұрын
That sounds painful. =P@@HypochondriacStudios
@ladykoiwolfe
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely want to know more about turtles. They're so weird that they're amazing. And yes, I want to see other examples of convergent evolution. The Foosa looking like cats immediately came to mind.
@passingby3584
Жыл бұрын
Search up the marsupial lion
@teresaellis7062
Жыл бұрын
And lots of spiky, warm-blooded animals. 😂Hedgehogs, porcupines, echidnas, tenrec. Plus lots of other spiky animals.
@ladykoiwolfe
Жыл бұрын
@@passingby3584 I went down that rabbit hole a while ago. It was fascinating. Thylacoleo. Very cool.
@ladykoiwolfe
Жыл бұрын
@@teresaellis7062 those are cool all on their own, very interesting group.
@ettinakitten5047
Жыл бұрын
Fossa are close cousins to cats, so that might not be convergent evolution. Now, the quolls are definitely an example of convergent evolution - they're small carnivorous marsupials that have often been called "marsupial cats" or "native cats".
@sidorak12814
Жыл бұрын
Super interesting! I didn't actually know anything else evolved into a cheloniform body plan except the little Ankylosaur and the Armadillos! "Every Time Things Have Evolved Into Noodles/Worms/Snakes" would be super interesting, but also probably take a year to make and be 3 hours long lol
@nikobellic570
Жыл бұрын
We see this in a typical backyard garden. How many things look like wasps but aren't
@davidcarrier3273
9 ай бұрын
HEROES IN A HALF SHELL , TURTLE POWER!
@yissibiiyte
Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, we all strive to be the ultimate lifeform; the turt
@Marlodrama
Жыл бұрын
Who else heard “Helveticasaurus” and immediately wondered what Times New Saurus looked like?
@AlejandroRodolfoMendez
Жыл бұрын
Since would be Latin probably would tempusneosaurus
@megalofirst1
11 ай бұрын
I can't believe I understood this joke. Oh my God. Comicsansaurus. Fuck I'm going to go get my degree now just to do this
@Marlodrama
11 ай бұрын
@@megalofirst1 PLEASE 😂😂 Papyrusaurus Rex has also been on my mind since i wrote this
@benjaminwalters2188
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if you're swimming in a river and your leg is being hit over and over by a little tiny aquatic Ankylosaurus😂
@Cloak_N_Dagger
Жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time a species evolved into a turtle... ...Apparently I'd have a decent handful of change.
@bethanybrookes8479
7 ай бұрын
I really enjoy the stupidly distant examples of convergence. Like octopus and human eyes being remarkably similar.
@thedoruk6324
Жыл бұрын
Move aside *Crabs* ! Turtles are the New hit show now!
@alexpulham7436
Жыл бұрын
the convergence of sociality/eusociality in different groups would be cool, like how ants, bees, termites and naked mole rats have each evolved complex social societies
@hedgehog3180
6 ай бұрын
Ants, bees and termites are all descended from the same eusocial ancestor. Naked mole rats are the only other example of eusociality.
@ProfezorSnayp
Жыл бұрын
I like turtles
@java4653
Жыл бұрын
"I did warn you that turtle evolution was a path to madness" 9:40
@NeonNijahn
8 ай бұрын
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck... unless, of course, it's a turtle or a crab. Everything crabs.
@KRJayster
Жыл бұрын
First I couldn’t trust crabs, and now I can’t trust turtles? What’s next?
@2horses4U
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this absolutely interesting, high quality episode! I enjoy all episodes, but this one sits defenetly in my favorite top 10 list! And YES please, I would love more episodes about convergent evolution!
@BenGThomas
Жыл бұрын
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it so much! I'll definitely do more :)
@AlisNinsky
Жыл бұрын
Turtles! I am excited for the not quite but totally almost turtles.
@TheMADGUY50
Жыл бұрын
"I cant wait to see what turns into a turtle next" made me question many things. Nice video, very enjoyment.
@efrahaimrn
8 ай бұрын
i still think that it is more about adaptation to a certain environment rather than mimicking what other species are doing. they adapt to survive.
@cogitoergosum9069
Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, we do, in fact, distinguish between turtles and tortoises here in America. That said, we just consider terrapins to be a type of turtle.
@stuchly1
Жыл бұрын
I am totally new to your channel but I really liked this video. Well-researched, not obscuring the details ir oversimplifying the complexities. All presented in a really captivating way. I'd definitely enjoy more videos of this sort in the future. As it is, this was an easy sub and a thumbs up from me. Great video! Also also, extra points for not omitting armadillos/glyptodonts. ❤👍
@John.0z
Жыл бұрын
I am very supportive of more material on turtles. To meet sea turtles, especially to see them hatch, is to find them deeply compelling. I even helped to get two females back into the water safely. One was dragging herself back into the water over horribly sharp coral, and headed straight for a rock coral wall! The things we animals will do to propagate our species.
@boundlessoul
Жыл бұрын
Reject Crab! Embrace turtle!
@Tactical_Turtwig
Жыл бұрын
Tortoises are my favorite animal, I deeply appreciate ANY paleontology info on them 🙏this also confirmed that ankylosarus is my favorite dinosaur because it is the most turtle like xD
@herbf2700
Жыл бұрын
Very clever idea for a video. And in a way, beetles are in the mix if you stand back far enough and think about it.
@perfectallycromulent
Жыл бұрын
yes, but how often have turtles evolved into ninjas?
@ideologybot4592
Жыл бұрын
The convergent phenomenon makes sense. Once there is a niche sorted out where heavier bones are an advantage, which could be ballast or could be protection from below giving value to a plastrum, they will be slower and the logic of survival pushes them towards a full-on armor tank. If you were designing combat vehicles, fast movers can have a thousand different shapes depending on expected terrain so long as you keep it light, but equipment which starts out heavy has one sensible way to go: shield it until it becomes its own garage.
@jbwanthony3177
11 ай бұрын
Here in the states...we also call them turtles if they spend the majority of their life in water, teripensi if it's 50/50ish and tortoises (not pronounced like a phsycopath) for purely land variants. The UKs assumption of understanding with u.s. language barriers makes me chuckle. We don't call everything turtles. Unless you're 5.
@Circe-nx5zs
11 ай бұрын
I think convergence on the rhino body plan would be interesting. Can feature brontotheres, arsiniotherium, and ceratopsians.
@JJ_Jahronus
Жыл бұрын
If I had to choose an ancient marine reptile to be brought back magically It would've been Archelon, watching Leatherbacks blows my mind on how much bigger an Archelon was. Great video as always.
@kR-qj7rw
Жыл бұрын
I would go for ichthyosaurus
@JJ_Jahronus
Жыл бұрын
@@kR-qj7rw Nice choice 🤘, I have a favorite Icthyosaur called Thalattoarchon.
@tituselul
8 ай бұрын
This channel is pure gold. Congratulations for the incredible research and keep up the amazing work. Thank you for inspiring me to keep on studying. You have earned a subscriber!
@tisisonlytemporary
Жыл бұрын
Its turtles all the way down
@danielnielel
2 ай бұрын
As a Biological Sciences student working on a herpetology lab, I can sey that your channel is a true gem. Thanks for all the effort, informations and sources availables
@LivyLoucifer
8 ай бұрын
This is my first video of yours and I instantly subscribed!! Wonderful content and I love your stuffed turtle 😁
@kokomo74149
Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, we call them turtles, terrafins and tortoises too. 😂 Or we simplify it by calling them box turtles, tortoises, sea turtles and river turtles to distinguish between the land based and aquatic. It makes it easier to know if they need water using this method. That's why you hear it said that way more often. It's for educational purposes for people who don't really care about turtles.
@whatdaisysays6825
8 ай бұрын
It's the only way we as multi celled organisms can avoid rent as we evolve. We got built in mobile homes.
@Jet_Threat
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben! I’d love for you to make this a series. I came up with some content ideas I would love to see you cover: 1. Mimicry/convergent evolution in insects (example: the fossilized Oregramma illecebrosa vs modern owl butterfly 2. Convergent evolution in mammalian apex predators (Canidae, Thylacinidae, Feliformia/Hyaenidae) 3. Thylacosmilidae vs Felidae/Sabert-toothed cats 4. Evolution of carnivorism in plants, convergent evolution amongst pitcher plants (Nepenthaceae, Sarraceniaceae and Cephalotaceae) 5. Evolution of olfactory glomeruli (such as in neopteran insects and some molluscs but not all outgroups to these groups) 6. Electrogenisis in fish 7. Echolocation in bats and toothed whales 8. The multiple times syncytin genes have developed from endogenous retroviral elements on multiple occasions and independently in diverse mammalian species. 9. Old world and new world vultures 10. Evolution of venom in snakes, arthropods, platypus, etc. 11. Toxicity in animals derived from toxins in food source (such as poisonous feathers in birds such as the pitohui, ifrita bird, hoopoe, spur-winged goose, red warbler, etc). 12. Lobsters and scorpions 13. Symbiotic relationships between flowers/plants and insects/birds/other species. Sorry if there are any spelling mistakes, I typed this on the down-low as I’m supposed to be paying attention to a work meeting right now. 😅 Cheers, mate! Love your channel.
@liamennis4516
8 ай бұрын
I have a hard time wrapping my head around genetic changes happening over millions of years. Like I’m expecting this to be like a day and night difference right away.
@bobbaker1830
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely you should do a post triassic turt evolution video!
@salscibetta
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd definitely love to see more on turtle evolution. One evolutionary question I've had is why are there no Testunididaes in Australia (there are some in Sulawasi that are across the Wallace Line)
@JohnDrummondPhoto
Жыл бұрын
I presume that turtles evolved in an area far away from Australia at a time when that continent had separated far away from the rest of the former Pangea. At this point there's no way for terrestrial turtles to migrate to Australia. But, are there at least sea turtles nesting on Australian shores today?
@bkjeong4302
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDrummondPhoto Plenty of sea turtles in Australia.
@salscibetta
Жыл бұрын
Testinididaes are the terrestrial tortoises. I used the order name because freshwater turtles are typically called tortoises in Australia. My question is pertaining to the terrestrial Chelonians.
@YusufGinnah
Жыл бұрын
Turtles are just a few steps before everything turns into crabs...
@gordybishop2375
Жыл бұрын
With gills…crabs. Lungs….turtles
@chir0pter
Жыл бұрын
I think you also have to look at plesiomorphic characteristics that predispose certain lineages to evolve a certain way. They’re not just evolving convergently in response to environmental pressures, they’re being funneled by their shared ancestral features. Like the animal you showed in your thumbnail is actually a stem-turtle that independently evolved derived turtle characters like a shell and oar-like flippers, probably because they had a bauplan that predisposed oar-like swimming styles and this then allows evolution of a shell since the thorax doesn’t need to undulate. Likewise other members of this stem turtle group like the pliosaurs shared this oared swimming style. And you can also mention how archosaurs repeatedly evolved bipedal predatory forms- unlike synapsids- and this is probably down to how the archosaur/reptile bauplan involved the tail in musculature used for the hind limbs, which synapsids didn’t so they remained mostly quadrupedal and often lost their tails. So “convergence” is only half the story.
@chir0pter
Жыл бұрын
@Nelumbo_lutea Many quadrupedal synapsids lost their tails. This essentially didn't happen with reptiles, except maybe flying birds, and even they kept a functional pygostyle. That's the point.
@steelblake
Жыл бұрын
Crabs have a mortal enemy now
@1LLog1K
3 ай бұрын
Sharky boys and monke boys 👀🥱
@ruanholtzhausen4000
8 ай бұрын
Animals also keep turning into crabs, perhaps alien life would be very similar to our own.
@Awakeandalive1
Жыл бұрын
I...don't know where you heard that Americans refer to all testudines as "turtles" -- I've spent much of my life in the US and I've never met an American who didn't understand the differences. It's one of the earliest animal environmental distinctions children learn, especially for those living in swampy or desert regions.
@NextToToddliness
Жыл бұрын
The fact that convergent evolution is described as "copying" is concerning to say the least.
@melvinshine9841
Жыл бұрын
It was sort of touched on with the phytosaur image near the beginning, but animals evolving the crocodile body plan/lifestyle would make for a cool video. I think the croc body plan evolved three or four times before actual crocodilians, including in what I think was the largest ever amphibian, Prionosuchus. Also, "saber teeth" have evolved so many times it's actually weird that there isn't some sort of saber toothed carnivore running around somewhere on Earth right now.
@CG-xb1kh
Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@fantasystaplesuwu1554
Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of animals with "saber" teeth. Musk deer, elephants, walruses, baboons, etc....
@CG-xb1kh
Жыл бұрын
@@fantasystaplesuwu1554 I think they meant predatory saber-tetth, but I was referring to the crocobods.
@azar1520
Жыл бұрын
@@CG-xb1kh Jaguars are evolving into saber tooths.
@DannyArguetaValencia
Жыл бұрын
Warthogs?????
@ShadowWolfTJC
Жыл бұрын
Seems to me like bearded dragons are on the path towards becoming turtle-like, though they've still got a long ways to go.
@ThecrazyJH96
8 ай бұрын
I often forget that all species (including us) aren’t done evolving, wondering what future animals will look like
@jean-paulaudette9246
Жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful you spoke about the Glyptodonts. I'd heard a bit about them, and they captivated my imagination... But I'd never been able to properly visualize them.
@DrakonHype-1-
Жыл бұрын
Turtles and crabs are peak design.
@michaelmcatee221
Жыл бұрын
Please do a convergence series! This is awesome!!!
@JesseRyan
9 ай бұрын
Am I not turtley enough for the turtle club? Turtle, turtle, turtle!
@Annathroy
Жыл бұрын
Having seen and handled a local small turtle here where I live for a very short time (I released it, did not want to cause it stress) I was fascinated by their structure. They are amazingly tough and strong even the small ones
@beanz6795
8 ай бұрын
Especially the small ones 😉 🐢
@TragoudistrosMPH
Жыл бұрын
1:45 we Americans use the 3 terms: Turtle, Tortoise, and Terrapin. Terrapin is kind of rarely used, though. Only when being technical, as terrapins are often called turtles for ease (but never tortoises).
@erilove593
10 ай бұрын
Turtle it's use for terrain turtle? And tortoise for water turtle?
@tosehoed123
8 ай бұрын
@@erilove593 the opposite
@richardtbrown756
7 ай бұрын
@@tosehoed123😂😂😂
@dracone4370
Жыл бұрын
It probably could interesting to see just how many lineages evolved the feline body plan.
@kR-qj7rw
Жыл бұрын
I mean I guess we could say the gorgonipsids did it first
@gator83261
Жыл бұрын
Nice jump shotting. Really makes the video very appealing. Thanks.
@lockenkeys1722
Жыл бұрын
the "i like turtles" kid grew up
@dougspurr120
Жыл бұрын
Strangely, I’m surprised by your statement that it’s American nomenclature that refers to turtles, tortoises and terrapins. As an American speaking with British speakers, they seem to always call them turtles whereas we Americans divide them up into turtles, tortoises and terrapins! Just my experience as someone who has been involved with turtles, terrapins and tortoises for the past 60 years…
@harambo88
Жыл бұрын
schildkröte all schildkröte
@fitnessealliance3370
Жыл бұрын
Completely untrue I'm from the UK and have only heard idiots and children call turtles tortoises and vice versa
@harambo88
Жыл бұрын
@@fitnessealliance3370 but in the UK they speak mostly arab.?.?(yes, hyperbolical)
@kingofsomething3250
11 ай бұрын
@@harambo88same with Sweden
@overbeb
10 ай бұрын
@@harambo88 What's the point in adding that in? Just to be bigoted for no reason?
@andrewsarchus6036
Жыл бұрын
It's turtles all the way down, young man.
@skeepodoop5197
Жыл бұрын
So what you're basically saying is the Tetrapod equivalent of 'evolve to crab' is 'evolve to turtle', right?
@hazakurasuyama9016
4 ай бұрын
So shells are peak life then
@DaxSchaffer
Жыл бұрын
Convergent Evolution.... Sharks: Look at how effective we are at swimming and catching fish! Future Dolphins: We're about to do what's called a pro gamer move.
@blackavar5723
Жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful video. We have a pet tortoise, (a large male redfoot) who roams the house in diapers because he outgrew enclosures. We've had him for 12 years and love him - we've long had discussions about how different he is from other animals we've had in structure, being a turtle and all. This video answered a lot of questions we'd had for many years - thank you!!
@joshsusser7988
Жыл бұрын
I noticed you kept calling them "tail clubs". I thought those anatomical features were called "thagomizers". Does that term only apply specifically to the tail club of a stegosaurus, or could it be used more generally for any of these spiked tail clubs?
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
10 ай бұрын
Specifically for stegosaurian dinosaurs. Funnily enough it comes from "The Far side" comic by Gary Larson. A caveman is teaching about the tail of a stegosaurus. " Now this end is called thagomizer....after the late Thagg Simmons." Pretty wild.
@joshsusser7988
10 ай бұрын
@JustMe-tc8qd Yes, I used to have that Far Side comic taped to the wall over my desk! Thanks for the clarification.
@a1k1gen
Жыл бұрын
Evolution and I: I like turtles.
@jonhenrickson6075
Жыл бұрын
Waiting for him to say I like turtles...
@Smruti_kirita
5 ай бұрын
lol 😂
@spooky_lxix9042
7 ай бұрын
so in the end all of us are 1 evolution away from being a turtle
@ThecrazyJH96
8 ай бұрын
If you haven’t made a video about it yet; I remember reading about how everything turns into crabs too😂 maybe crabs and turtles are that evolutionary awesome
@ThecrazyJH96
8 ай бұрын
Nvm just got to the end of the video lol
@drumlineking07
Жыл бұрын
Damn, evolution is just one big "I like turtles" meme.
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