My Father would tell me, there is nothing wrong with owning nice things, but you also need to have the means to be able to care for the nice things.
@NenadTrajkovic
22 сағат бұрын
good point 👍
@mcihs2
21 сағат бұрын
Was he talking about cars, or women?!
@anthonyhowells4560
20 сағат бұрын
This example £122ks worth!
@highpath4776
19 сағат бұрын
@@mcihs2 both
@TassieLorenzo
12 сағат бұрын
You'd think an expensive car would mean it is better made and more durable. That was (largely) true of a 1970's Mercedes S-Class...
@Angelalovescutecats
Күн бұрын
Think I'm going to dust off my bicycle!
@paulie-Gualtieri.
Күн бұрын
It's a testament to modern Mercedes-Benz build quality 😂
@borassictime918
14 сағат бұрын
Some years ago Clarkson and Hammond bought a secondhand BMW 6 and M-B S-class because they were so cheap to buy. May’s response was “you’ll both end up bankrupt living in a skip” 😂
@Boric78
Минут бұрын
It shocking - I have a mate who has an almost new W213 (from new) and yet has hardly driven it in the last two years. Its always in the garage or back at the dealership. Sensor this, gearbox that, won't start as battery drains itself overnight randomly, interior trim splitting - almost every area of the car. I know they made the W124 and their engines seemed to have no major problems in Bf109, but this was a long time ago. Their reputation for quality is an illusion. My mate was like a cultist Merc's for almost 30 years, he is looking at a Lexus...........
@andrewnevermind4902
Күн бұрын
Brake rotors and pads on each brake job? Sounds like someone was taken for a muppet.
@downesy68
21 сағат бұрын
I’ve done over 100,000km on my secondhand Alfa 159 wagon and had to beg my mechanic to replace the rear discs last service. That’s the only money I’ve spent on brakes in that time.
@gazzafloss
16 сағат бұрын
@@andrewnevermind4902 seems like that's the way the Germans do it, BMW, Audi, Benz, new rotors with every set of pads for whatever reason.
@nikolapopov8152
11 сағат бұрын
This car is very heavy and has some power. I think it's normal.
@GPR111
9 сағат бұрын
Image costs 😉
@edgeyt1
Күн бұрын
Competent enthusiast mechanic/owners could have done a great deal of this work and saved a fortune; at this age and value I think the car's future is with likely to be with such a person.
@MrAnwarsmith
Күн бұрын
Fixing stuff can bee very unpleasant and requires expensive tools to make your life easier, plus time and space. Currently on my gravel drive replacing springs in rain to get Saab through mot :)
@ivaneberle3972
23 сағат бұрын
Certain modern MB cannot be serviced without proprietary scanners and tools. Subframes have to be dropped out on a lift table with the car on a lift to access many driveline components. Parts costs can be 10X other marques. So, no, a shade-tree mechanic's/ happy enthusiast's car it is not.
@user-pt1ow8hx5l
21 сағат бұрын
@@ivaneberle3972 That's why some people have turned to Volvos from the 1980ties.... Easy access. Can be repaired by anybody. And do a million miles or more. If serviced.
@user-pt1ow8hx5l
21 сағат бұрын
@@MrAnwarsmith Good on you. They can go on forever, those Saabs. If serviced. And rustprotected.
@CursedLink666
21 сағат бұрын
Work on a modern-ish Mercedes? At home? Unless you own a Mercedes repair shop, that's probably not happening.
@davidthomas5975
Күн бұрын
The cost is more if adjusted for inflation. The list price of £78k in 2003 is £139k in 2024. The £47k cost of maintenance very roughly adjusted using the inflation rate from the mid life of the car (2013) would be £64k. The total would be £203k in 2024.
@user-pt1ow8hx5l
21 сағат бұрын
The value of the pound has slipped during this period........
@gglen2141
18 сағат бұрын
Serious question: Do the inflation adjustment calculators factor in the insane pandemic property price increases?
@numbereightyseven
16 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@Low760
13 сағат бұрын
Plus interest on the car loan
@michaelnaughton1393
9 сағат бұрын
An interesting hypothesis but it only cost what it cost at the time
@Coen80
20 сағат бұрын
That's 600 pounds per month. You can hardly lease a Skoda for that money...
@stephencurry8552
Күн бұрын
In the last 3 weeks I completed $11,600 dollars worth of mechanical work on one of my cars. That is a retail price. My price was $980. One reason I do as much of my own work as I can. That, and I do not like people touching my things.
@vincemarshall8550
Күн бұрын
was that engine work or the kind of stuff we can all do if we dont mind getting dirty
@andrewnevermind4902
Күн бұрын
Same. I cannot find anyone to take care. I do all i can myself.
@stephencurry8552
23 сағат бұрын
@@vincemarshall8550 LOL. The underbody and engines transmissions are all clean sport. I have designed fabricated or milled my own parts old bean. Now you prattle on and go bother someone else.
@R-K61
Күн бұрын
For the cost of the drivers door in 21 years I would leave it be and climb out the sunroof.
@eric-wb7gj
21 сағат бұрын
If you painted it bright orange, & put a confederate flag on the roof, you could use the easier driver & passenger windows. Perhaps an option for when you're older/less mobile?
@10secondsrule
9 сағат бұрын
My soul would most likely leave my body way before that 😂
@philthewriter
23 сағат бұрын
Different types of people generally. The sort of people who buy new often won't spend £50k on maintenance - they'll take the hit on depreciation and replace the car every few years and avoid most of the issues. The sort of person who'll spend a few grand fixing problems generally won't pay the same sort of money on depreciation. Just depends where you pick up the car on its journey really. Sure there's a graph or diagram where costs/depreciation/issues overlap.
@malcolmlane-ley2044
9 сағат бұрын
Well said, I bought my Range Rover at 5 years old, 26500 miles, so I avoided the first £68k of depreciation
@jackiechan8840
23 сағат бұрын
You should have included road tax and tyre's too. Plus estimated insurance and fuel costs maybe. Crazy money. Great work Jack.
@markotango54
21 сағат бұрын
You can see why Lexus is so successful
@RUfromthe40s
3 сағат бұрын
i bought one with large tires with the front of a mercedes and the back of a chevrolet , nice Lexus all that came after are horrible but maybe a good car, it is a TOYOTA , the one i had only lasted 1.5 years in my hands, but my Toyota Celica from the 70´s is till running pretty
@jamespotts9836
21 сағат бұрын
Hi from Australia.. here's a different perspective.. my 2000 model 105 series LandCruiser has 700,000klms on it and has only had regular services and consumables like brakes, tyres, uni joints etc. it's got wind up windows, no computer, entirely analogue and has never failed to get me home. I think one would class that as a win!
@captainwin6333
16 сағат бұрын
If you liked cutting around in a tractor.
@anthonykennedy5324
16 сағат бұрын
@@captainwin6333 With country driving in Australia the first preference for most drivers is to just arrive. And not need repairs at Woop Woop .Drive quality may be a trade-off. PS : Sorry @jamespotts9836 if I have stolen your thunder.
@Low760
13 сағат бұрын
Hello outlier.
@garychilds1130
13 сағат бұрын
My Volvo was reliable and cheap even after 350,000 miles and I service it myself
@garychilds1130
13 сағат бұрын
Specialist cars need expensive repairs my Volvo never had door handles and it also had the same engine gearbox starting motor and charging system ok I replaced the seats with some leather seats from the scrap yard for 100 pound and yes it was a taxi and when I sold it it was as good as new
@superbear617
Күн бұрын
Replace control arm at 60K??? I don't consider that normal wear and tear.....
@lint8391
18 сағат бұрын
It's a heavy car and Britain's potholed roads... ...and some MOT testers are a bit keen when they see a bush that looks a bit funny...
@Leonardo555ZZZ
13 сағат бұрын
The rubber bush is fluid filled , and they often wear out after 60,000 miles.
@TassieLorenzo
12 сағат бұрын
To be fair, Lexus products suffer the same. A heavy car with fancy bushings for low NVH wear the bushings quickly.
@superbear617
2 сағат бұрын
@@Leonardo555ZZZ This is my point. I own a car with 190,000 miles and no suspension issues. Another car I ran to 230,000, and it would still be on the road, but for an accident. No suspension issues there, either. If these parts fail due to vehicle weight (or any other reason, really), then I suggest the parts are poorly engineered, from a maintenance standpoint. Lovely vehicles, for sure, but ownership costs are plainly excessive. (And I have not even got into the multiple repairs the door!!)
@andybowie8590
21 сағат бұрын
Old mercs get such a hammering for quality, I feel like I've been lucky I've got 2 at the moment, a 2004 slk amg and a 2013 e350 coupe with 120k miles on it and neither of them has cost me anything major in maintenance, in fact I've had the e350 for 2 1/2 years and the only thing that has gone wrong with it was the passenger seat occupancy sensor, and that was on a replacement interior I bought to brighten the inside up from black to a cream coloured leather, the original seat sensor was fine so I swapped it over but I had a 2004 clk with 170k miles before that and that had the same seat sensor issue, other than that everything worked and it never let me down. Maybe I'm about to have the smile wiped off my face by one of them going expensively wrong but from my own experience over the last 4 years they've been the most reliable cars I've owned and I used to drive nothing but japanese.
@cornovii3012
Күн бұрын
I buy cars for around £500 to £700, run them for a couple of years and scrap them in for £200. Cheapest motoring you can get.
@IainAWard
Күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one. LMAO.
@alejandropalazonurtubi3520
23 сағат бұрын
Here!
@sumkunt0r
22 сағат бұрын
I like your attitude, I bought an E46 2.5 petrol coupe for £1200 7 years ago with 92k miles, it had an abs fault that i thought was a wheel sensor but turned be the abs computer, cost from bmw £750, my bmw independent mechanic quoted £200 for a second hand part and fitted it for £100 which involved programming it to the car (the abs computers fitted around that time are all the same but need programming to the individual car) I got rid of it in April this year when the vanos started pissing oil at 120k miles. I got £200 at the scrapyard. I bought a 53 plate CLK 500 with 70.5 k miles on the clock I am 4th owner and everything works, It cost me 5k but it has been faultless so far. It now has 76k in 5 months of ownership. as most of my miles are motorway miles the mpg ain't too bad. When it shits itself or something really annoying goes wrong I will get something else. I would rather drop 5k on an old nice car than get finance on a mediocre newer car.
@eric-wb7gj
21 сағат бұрын
A sound policy. 'Bangernomics' is a world of it's own, always chasing that elusive 'gem', & the extra satisfaction when you find one!
@cornovii3012
21 сағат бұрын
@@eric-wb7gj Like my 20 year old panda i picked up 3 weeks ago, 67.000 miles on it, MOT till April and only payed £500 for it with a bonus that i have a full panda with a blown head gasket for a complete spares car. i should have at least 3 years out of this one 🙂
@iannolan-f4g
23 сағат бұрын
aluminium IS metal ( pedant mode ) !
@tonykoziol9052
Күн бұрын
I had one a while back. It was two years old - one owner - Paid £40 grand for it - 30.000 mls. Kept it for 6 yrs and was trouble free. Undoubtably my best car ever and such a joy to drive. Apart from regular servicing it was trouble free. apart from new batteries. I was lucky !
@markcarter9476
Күн бұрын
I do all the work on my Sl & CL so costs are kept to parts only. Colour coded door handles are expensive and need replacing because the keyless go functionality degrades and they stop locking / unlocking the car.
@psircos
Күн бұрын
Although thd home mechanic might well have saved a fair bit by doing some of the work, i just get a feeling that someone that paid £80k in 2003 for a CL500, is not the weekend mechanic type! Maybe stereotypical, but thats my view. So, about £5100 per annum. Thats a fair bit of money! Thats easily many peoples annual mortgage costs, then and now.
@glock22357
23 сағат бұрын
You're old, and out of touch. Mortgage payments are 3-4 times what you think they are. The average monthly mortgage repayment on a house in the UK is currently £1,441.36 And a wealthy person bought that car, not some middle-class serf.
@psircos
23 сағат бұрын
@glock22357 😆 you're making assumptions Glock. My mortgage is around what you say the average is. I live in Scotland though, so don't get ripped off (too much), with over inflated housing prices. I also know many people who's mortgage sits around the 500-600 mark. Finally, a wealthy person was exactly my point, as I don't see a fat corporate banker being in his overalls of a Sunday, changing ball joints!
@RHM6x4
23 сағат бұрын
Disagree - it’s only £6k a year or £1.03 per mile, and you’ve had a superior luxury car for 21 years - what’s the problem ? … are you becoming a KZitem sensationalist ? - if you’ve got it spend it I say !
@gazzafloss
18 сағат бұрын
Superior car...what a load of cobblers... Scotty Kilmer got it right, "endless money pit".
@AmosDohms
17 сағат бұрын
@@gazzaflossWhy are you here rather then watching his channel?
@gazzafloss
16 сағат бұрын
@@AmosDohms I watch Scotty about three times a day he talks about "head" type opinions on cars. I watch Jack whenever he puts out a video for "heart" type opinions on cars. And through a long life and ownership experience of over 50 different cars, I have found Scotty's opinions make a lot of sense. That's why!
@theun-personing5674
Күн бұрын
If like me your used to fixing cars on a budget by yourself, some of those prices are eyewatering 😅
@vincemarshall8550
Күн бұрын
you could buy a bentley mulsanne turbo for the price of that drivers door 🤣
@manchegocheese997
23 сағат бұрын
The £910 crankshaft sensor caught my attention, I replaced it on my SLK55 for about £30.
@heiner71
14 сағат бұрын
@@vincemarshall8550 , and spend twice the amount in repairs and maintenance every month on your cheapo Bentley.
@mw-th9ov
Күн бұрын
Watch the "I Do Cars" guy on the BMW 750i for a BMW luxury car horror story baked into the design that makes a seemingly attractive used BMW essentially a millstone with negative value.
@downesy68
21 сағат бұрын
I own 4 Alfa Romeos. Watching this video makes me very happy that I own a reliable brand. Next time someone makes a joke about Alfa reliability I’ll just send them this link.
@parrotraiser6541
Күн бұрын
What does that work out per year on average and per mile driven? Older luxury cars with a reasonable service history can be great bargains, especially if you don't obsess about all the toys working.
@KSTAccountancy
19 сағат бұрын
Modern "mechanics" don't fix anything they just replace parts
@rockinroller59
20 сағат бұрын
Whoever owned has been taken for a ride! That is excessive overcharge!
@myob1kenobi
6 сағат бұрын
at least it was a luxury ride 😆
@ramspace
Күн бұрын
The beauty of a car is to some people more important that depreciation and repairs.
@Neil2022
Күн бұрын
6k a year😮 Nearly as much as the Taycan
@benjaminlusskin3211
Күн бұрын
Do Taycans need $6k a year in repairs?!?
@Neil2022
Күн бұрын
@@benjaminlusskin3211 no, just 20k a year in depreciation
@anthonywbelcher
Күн бұрын
Or £486.00 per month which doesn't sound so bad for a nice car. A quick look at leasing today shows a Land Rover Range Rover Evoque would cost £460.00 a month.
@garyrains5996
19 сағат бұрын
Ok, just another personal experience. I own a 2003 CL600. Purchased in 2017. Paid $17K at the time. Has had a new radiator, trunk opener and gear shifting lever system. I had no issue with the gear lever, but the repair shop said I needed it. OK. So, maybe $5000. in repairs. I do all regular maintenance myself. I live in Arizona so I don't even know what the rust and gunk is under your car. Mine is as clean as the day it was made. No electrical issues, no door or mirror issues, no suspension issues, no tie rod ends, no oil leaks, nothing has failed. It is the best built car I've ever driven. It is the most incredible car I've ever owned (and I've owned a newer Bentley). The most completely satisfying, brutally fast car, and I am still enjoying it almost 8 years now.
@Leonardo555ZZZ
12 сағат бұрын
Well done ..there are many experiences like yours , but they are not put up on youtube.
@marioskoutras6583
7 сағат бұрын
It's funny. We still have our Skoda favorit from 1994 (one of the cheapest cars you could buy) with almost 200k miles on the clock and if you add the cost of every single repair needed all these years, it barely touches 1k euros. I can definitely sell the whole car for around 500 euros.
@gazzafloss
18 сағат бұрын
We bought a 2000 ML 320 for $18,000 second hand sold it to a scrap dealer ten years later for $400. It was still going and had a plethora of problems, many electrical.
@phil4977
19 сағат бұрын
I owned a 2005 CL500 for the years(2015 to 2018) I bought a comprehensive warranty for $2000(3 years) that was the same as a new car warranty and covered everything. Over the 3 years the warranty paid approx $16,000 in repairs. Mainly the Suspension. They are a very expensive car to maintain. As soon the warranty ended I sold it. To own one without a warranty, be prepared to spend a lot. I’m in Melbourne Australia fyi.
@thedoubs2383
19 сағат бұрын
In NZ, where I live, we have a publication called 'The Dog and Lemon Guide'. It's now available on-line. A great resource before buying 2nd hand. The general comment about Mercedes Benz used to be "If you can't afford to buy a new one, you can't afford to own a 2nd hand one."
@allareasindex7984
23 сағат бұрын
Not to ignore the time wasted bringing bf the darn thing back to the dealer over and over to keep “not fixing” the door.
@tobymcnicol922
5 сағат бұрын
moral - don't get your merc serviced at the main dealer in Bradford....
@frankp.2831
19 сағат бұрын
Very interesting video. Oddly enough, there was no mention of the cost of tires over 21 years. It would be interesting to compare with the cost of leasing a similar vehicle or a series of vehicles over the same period. Also, what would the cost of owning similar vehicles until the warranty runs out and replacing it over the course of 21 years.
@RJN82
23 сағат бұрын
That's about £6000/year or £500/month for a high-end Mercedes up through 2024. Though it seems that it should have cost less, if it had been traded for an equivalent car every 5 years the cost would have been significantly higher.
@mikadavies660
Күн бұрын
I used to own one of these CL500s and one of the "common faults" was the driver and passenger door mirrors. They used to just "fall off!" Or fall apart internally.... At over £400/time it was both annoying and expensive.
@Engineerd3d
23 сағат бұрын
This is the reason I do all my own work on my cars. For better or worse it’s been a good savings. My last merc cost me about 2000$ in maintenance and depreciation a year for 5 years. I thought that was good value. The cost could have been 4x if I went and had someone else do the work. Realistically for the every day man it’s a money pit. And it is the reason so many people lease these types of vehicles. My classic merc on the other hand gained value and all the mechanical work was paid back when selling. So I bought another classic merc. I am working on it and bringing it back as a hobby and have driven about 5k miles on it. It all depends I suppose.
@mro9466
21 сағат бұрын
but then the guy that bought it new in 2003 probably made 122K a year 😂
@offbeatinstruments
22 сағат бұрын
I got flashbacks watching this as I had a Merc from 1999 for nearly 20 years. Mine was plagued with electrical problems. The window seals never worked properly, so water got on the wiring and it was like the car was haunted at times. Mirrors replaced because the LCD for auto dimming degraded and leaked. Wrong wiring around the boot, so more weird faults as water ingress shorted things out. Worst of all was catastrophic rust that appeared after 15 years or so. It was such a shame because it had a lovely 3 litre 6 cylinder engine that was still going strong and it had AMG suspension that made it a hoot to drive. Sadly sold for nothing in the end, but it was fun while it lasted.
@MrAnwarsmith
Күн бұрын
Around £6k a year. I always keep a spreadsheet to track this 'real' annual cost (including depreciation) - always shocks me how much it ends up being a month, and what a pain selling a used car is! The reason I've been leasing on and off for some time (chasing great deals only!) and then bobbing back into buying used, then back to leasing again when a great deal pops up! Currently replacing the front springs on my sons Saab to get thought its MOT, not fun ! And leasing a Tesla on a great deal, no servicing requirements for that one!
@yorkshiremike5083
Күн бұрын
Still economically more viable than a new EV.
@ChuckFickens1972
20 сағат бұрын
Why? Please explain why you say that with figures to back it up?
@DioTheGreatOne
20 сағат бұрын
@@ChuckFickens1972 Battery degrades quickly and the cost to replace it is more expensive than the entire car.
@BEGGARWOOD1
11 сағат бұрын
@@DioTheGreatOnesuch twaddle. I love my old ICE cars but the amount of misinformation around EV amazes me. My old model 3 had 60k miles after 3 years when I replaced it . Had not cost a penny to service and the battery showed 99% charge
@DioTheGreatOne
11 сағат бұрын
@@BEGGARWOOD1 That's great. Doesn't change the fact that some cars quickly degrade and any foreign object in the road could damage the battery pack enough to void the warranty and cost a fortune to replace.
@gglen2141
18 сағат бұрын
A friend had one. Massive, yet tiny. I could not find headroom in the front and the rear seats are crazy small and it broke down constantly. Did you know the S Class has a tiny fan that blows cabin air over the temp. sensor for a more accurate reading ?? Now you do. After a while the tiny fan's tiny little bearings die and it makes an intermittant and impossible to pinpoint mosquito like whining sound. Now you do.
@anthonykennedy5324
16 сағат бұрын
Now I do. Thanks.
@HKB-1
23 сағат бұрын
You could probably have constructed another entire CL500 from all the parts required for this one. NASA spent less fixing the Space Shuttle.
@heiner71
14 сағат бұрын
Hardly.
@ryanmccormick2150
9 сағат бұрын
WOW..... it's literally cheaper to run a wife than a merc 😂😂.....actually I'm kidding myself on that! 😂😂
@Leonardo555ZZZ
13 сағат бұрын
Transmission conductor plate is an expected replacement after about 16 years , due to heat degradation , just like the crank position sensor. The obvious solution here is don't take the big hit from early depreciation , buy it well used and then carry out most servicing and repairs yourself , rather than going to a MB dealership where they charge ridiculous prices , simply because they can. Mid 2000's Mercedes are a very viable DIY car if you have any mechanical ability and are prepared to spend a few dollars on some tools.
@lint8391
18 сағат бұрын
Cost of fuel and tyres on top of that. Plus road tax and insurance. Cost per mile, if the original owner kept it all that time must be something like £2 per mile? Trip from Leeds to London and back: somewhere in the region of £800? Lovely car. One for the multi-millionaires from new.
@theblackhand6485
16 сағат бұрын
Back in 2011 I bought a car for just 120€. Last week I replaced one of the gearbox cables for 150€. That was a shocker to me!
@richardelson3261
22 сағат бұрын
Neighbour has an old small Toyota. Virtually nothing spent. I have an old Merc cabriolet…. It’s not been bad actually but does need love and care. Still feels special. Caveat Emptor.
@CarelessGamer15
20 сағат бұрын
The wiring loom is finicky and usually goes bad because it gets crimped on the inside of the door. It's a common fault in the C215, as is the metal reaction on the base of the C pillar.
@jestubbs69
14 сағат бұрын
Mercedes after about 2002 ish really became plastic fall- apart crap. Never own one again.
@lestrem11
Күн бұрын
In truth, I have only ever had two cars ( amongst many ) that refused to go wrong. A Ford Ka and a Honda Jazz, ( both my wife’s daily’s ). Simple , cheap cars that simply had less to actually go wrong……..
@silvaanosvs8783
22 сағат бұрын
The fact that it is/was a very expensive car aside (you must expect expensive servicing and expensive parts whenever something breaks), I don't think it sounds like the car was very unreliable. For 15 years, very little played up. And then you are getting close to the full lifetime of many cars.
@jimburney573
20 сағат бұрын
Had one ,fantastic luxrious car to drive , electrics absymal , their new current vehicles are a poor image of their past quality cars and their dealers are pathetic ,they dont have mechanics ,they have module replacers ,however most of the modules ,spare parts are on back order ! Get a good idependant forget main dealers,acctually that advice is appropriate for most makes!
@philipdubuque9596
23 сағат бұрын
Sounds like "death from a thousand cuts". Brilliant editing on this one! Kudos for your unique presentions of these kinds of issues. Entertaining and informative. Well done.
@wouterleenders
21 сағат бұрын
When you can’t maintain it, don’t buy it. If more people did this, the more of these special cars will be maintained by the ones who love them and keep them on the road.
@Michaellipmanactor
Күн бұрын
Am I right in thinking that a lot of those repair and maintenance jobs were done at a main dealer? Because if they were then it’s easy to see why the costs were so prohibitive. The best thing to have done, as i do myself, is to find a good reliable home mechanic and source parts off places like Eurocarparts. Then the bills are a fraction of the cost.
@susannero6401
12 сағат бұрын
It's kind of sad what's happened to Mercedes Benz. If you grew up in the 1970's, a Mercedes was the best car in the world. BMW's weren't far behind. If someone told you then that in 60 years a Toyota would have superior build quality than a Merc you'd have thought they were crazy.
@Bobblenob
Күн бұрын
I think the garage that repaired the car saw the owner coming and proper ripped the poor so and so off.
@davebarron5939
20 сағат бұрын
Sounds like a Great Buy for the second had person, well done.
@preppen78
Күн бұрын
i wonder what a Tesla Model S or similar will cost to maintain for 20 years?
@mikeolly67
Күн бұрын
Will any Tesla still be on the road after 20years?
@preppen78
Күн бұрын
@@mikeolly67 My guess is that it would take a massive amount of money, will and obstinacy to do it. Hope some enthusiast tries and give us their report in 15 years or so...
@mikeolly67
Күн бұрын
@@preppen78 with depreciation of EV’s as it is and the cost of replacing a battery, I think the life span of the car is going to be solely dictated by the life span of the battery.
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
Күн бұрын
If it will even last that long. It's not looking good for the milk floats.
@preppen78
Күн бұрын
@@mikeolly67 batteries are replaceable though, if you really want to keep the car going. Most won't, but it's an interesting thought experiment if nothing else.
@glock22357
23 сағат бұрын
Wrong. $122K was not "lost". "Lost" means there is nothing left at the end. For that $122K, the owner got a top-tier transportation appliance that they enjoyed for decades, and a vehicle to sell when they were done with it. And now you're enjoying it. Far from being "lost", that money was well spent by someone that could afford it.
@user-pt1ow8hx5l
21 сағат бұрын
LOL,..... Try looking at it another way. The owner could have bought himself a comfortable vehicle at a fraction of the cost. And had the pleasure of losing money on numerous charitable projects...
@glock22357
21 сағат бұрын
@@user-pt1ow8hx5l If you're stuck on virtue signaling, it can be said the owner kept many hardworking people employed by owning the car. From those that built it, to those that sold it, to those that repaired and maintained it. Plus those that have investments in MB. Rather than giving it away to people that won't appreciate it, give to hardworking people.
@martinsvensson6884
18 сағат бұрын
@@user-pt1ow8hx5l But nothing comparable to this one. Or he would have had to pay around the same. These are not more expensive than any other car in same class.
@glock22357
4 сағат бұрын
@@martinsvensson6884 You last comment is indecipherable.
@martinsvensson6884
4 сағат бұрын
@@glock22357 That's because it wasnt for you lol
@jeffcarter7197
Күн бұрын
Was there any mention of replacement batteries and tyres? That would cost £1000's over 20 years.
@19892CV
Күн бұрын
They are normal consumables
@psircos
Күн бұрын
Jack, you should probably have added interest on there. Many folks would have financed this, incurring further costs 😅
@wfifa199
28 минут бұрын
Nah. That kind of car gets paid for in 1 go. Only plebs like me borrow to buy a car
@andrewnevermind4902
Күн бұрын
Buy and older volvo.
@Neil2022
Күн бұрын
And people think Mercs are reliable
@NA-dg3jx
Күн бұрын
Total money pit
@pokeboi5438
21 сағат бұрын
They were once upon a time
@martinsvensson6884
18 сағат бұрын
Yes probably had the most reliable engine + transmission built by anyone during that time period.
@NA-dg3jx
Күн бұрын
Just shows how poor Mercedes build quality is.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
Күн бұрын
This era was bad, this was when they paired up with chrysler and used alot of their parts. After 2007/8 quality improved alot. Still not as good as pre 90s models which remain the best built cars of any brand.
@martinsvensson6884
19 сағат бұрын
No, most cars that age are scrapped by now.
@matthewlok3020
15 сағат бұрын
Early 2000s was Merc’s darkest hour, my family had a W210 from that period and the dash lit up like a Christmas tree, it showed more error messages than mileage of the car
@waynepantry7023
7 сағат бұрын
Rubbish ! My 98 E430 i have had for 18 years is the best car i have owned ! I have replaced 2 batteries, a MAF sensor and a light switch stalk . Had 80,000km when i got it and now has 280,000km. So quiet and smooth . Love it. Enjoy your crappy South Korean noisy death trap . . .
@martinsvensson6884
5 сағат бұрын
@@matthewlok3020 The first w210 had some electricla problems. But those are fixed since long ago by previous owners :) Only problem with the w210 is that they rust.
@KapiteinKrentebol
Күн бұрын
Like the old Chinese saying: "With expensive car comes expensive repair bill."
@freespeech3673
16 сағат бұрын
Or go to bed with itchy bum, wake up with smelly finger!
@TassieLorenzo
12 сағат бұрын
Interestingly, brands like Cadillac and Audi have been losing a lot of market share in China where they were once market leaders 10 years ago or so. I wonder if that is correlated...
@wfifa199
37 минут бұрын
£6k a year isn't bad. Spend £40-50k on a new car (which doesn't get you much nowadays) and you will easily lose £18k over 3 years. I remember being told years ago that the cheapest way to enjoy a relatively luxurious car is to buy one when it's 3 years old, then sell it when it's 6 years old. That way, you avoid the depreciation of a new car, and avoid the costs of maintaining an old car. There's probably still some truth in that
@mixhael
7 сағат бұрын
On top of that, add for VED, insurance and petrol. VED, say £500 pa = £10,500 Ins, say £1,200 pa = £25,200 Petrol, say 20 mpg = £35,700 (say 5,000 gallons) That's another £71,400
@wfifa199
22 минут бұрын
It’s well known that Merc reliability improved across the board from 2006/7 onwards when the next gen S class came out, so the CL generation after this one would, I imagine, have had less running costs. Their price to buy second hand also now seem to have bottomed out a bit
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373
22 сағат бұрын
Giacomo, you forgot to add fuel costs (thirsty car!) and annual car insurance (not cheap). So keep on adding............ GULP!
@felawes
13 сағат бұрын
I had one. Absolutely wonderful car. My 1996 SL500 is spectacularly easier to run.
@RUfromthe40s
3 сағат бұрын
people buy cars because they liked them not because it increases value or almost no person drove any car, i myself having all coupé by daimler-benz since 1965 i skipped the brazilian made body or S-class coupé with the c class front(brazilian one) and S-class back , but in Europe you can´t find one under 50.000€ to 100.000€, allthough i bought a CL270 cdi for 1.000€ a diesel ,nice daily driver at the time now i drive a skoda octavia ,i asked is it like the audi´s 2.0 turbo diesel, to which the guy selling it replyed , if it as more than 170 h.p. this a late 2004 bought in 2020, also 1.000€ in mint condition because the top of the car being black was grey and i ´m going to paint it as it needed nothing since i bought it ,so i ofer him a painting, for being a sport , schchchchchtered not mixched as dry........................well know i´m going to drive a V12 for almost a month i´m getting headaches and a 90´s V12 and it´s not the Mercedes but the BMW 8 with rx-7 front lights
@tug1345
4 сағат бұрын
£6,000 a year to buy and run a V8 Merc over 21 years, not bad, Lee Macmasters Porsche Taycan has dropped nearly £90,000 in 3 years in just depreciation alone, now that's expensive
@Penguinracer
5 сағат бұрын
Buy a good example fully depreciated & find a really good independent specialist & that should as cost effective as a complex luxury car ownership gets.
@adrianmonk4440
9 сағат бұрын
Ahhh, Errr, Uhmm, what 100 Indonesian families live on per year.
@RUfromthe40s
2 сағат бұрын
but either way i love unreliable english sport cars from the 70´s or even the 60´sbut never had a STAG or the .....was it chasser? or ,well now it doesn´t matter
@RUfromthe40s
2 сағат бұрын
they are cheap because they have the steering wheel in the left side which is not the right side but the left side is the right side to put it , i even bought a car or two next to London for 1000€ and 1500€ in £ off course that in all other countries of Europe would cost me at least 30.000€, then spend another 3.000€ to put it on the right side ,the left side, also bought a Chevrolet Barbie corvette c whatever i don´t get how they C their cars with a improved engine in 2004 for 1.500€ but in £´s, never ever i thought of owning one but for that price and a faster and reliable version i did it and drove 3.000 km´s home 1mile/1.6kms, After Daimler left the building it started, a a320 cdi S-class isn´t a in-line 3.2L diesel engine but a....can´t remenber it was a S in mint condition for 2.000€ a 2004 but i choose the skoda, the Mercedes is automatic i don´t like automatic gears ,enough having 5 at home , it´s like a CBR1000 with training wheels i understand it if a geriatric version of the car but i´m not that old and i learned to drive in the 60´s with a fiat looking like a ferrari with a few h.p. a abarth something but the engine was like in the 600 and 500 only bigger than the engine carburators
@10secondsrule
9 сағат бұрын
This charge for not fixing a thing is ridiculous. You should be paying for a fix not a wasted time. Quite typical though.
@ukwan
10 сағат бұрын
I had a CL500 for about 12 months, it was a fun car until the first MOT bill came along, which was about £8k.. I paid £1500 for it, a great years motoring.. now sat at Copart for which I got £600 back for it. £900 for a years motoring in a 5L V8 top flight Mercedes Benz. Used abused and enjoyed 😂
@flexiblebirdchannel
10 сағат бұрын
You missed gasoline, insurance, tax and probably tyres. Repairs at Mercedes are exceptionally expensive, but if you give it to them with the order to fix it and it is not fixed but requires multiple attempts, these should be free, running under guarantee. The dealer fooled him, ripped him off. My last car, a Volvo bought at age 9y used for 4000 and driven 160000km for a total of 228000km for 13y spending 4000€ for tax, insurance, TÜV/MOT, repairs, tyres, cost me 5ct/km excluding gasoline that accounts for another 7ct/km. It's better not to drive a Merc.
@tonymiller3182
7 сағат бұрын
I'm unsure if the CL has the same central locking type as my old SL500, but I imagine it'll be the same pneumatic arrangement. In which case I'm surprised none of the bills involve repairs & replacements to this over-complicated and downright stupid system! Mine went wrong umpteen times.
@jonathancollard3710
10 сағат бұрын
It’s making my McLaren 570 look cheap to run… 🤭
@GPR111
9 сағат бұрын
Image costs !! (I have a 2006 630i with the paint bubbling on aluminium doors now.... just going to live with it as the car only needs to do another 12/18 months with me before it goes. Spend only on mechanicals in my case)
@adrianmonk4440
9 сағат бұрын
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em - Kenny Rodgers, "The Gambler."
@mickpilsworth1
Күн бұрын
I drive a 1998 Toyota Land cruiser.....very reliable. 125,000 Kms on the clock. Just had my very first big bill...£3,900 for a new clutch and flywheel....but it should now see me out!
@jonboy9912
9 сағат бұрын
My 2007 CLS320 CDI has cost me under £10k in 12 years of ownership and most of that is in depreciation, not all Mercs of that era were basket cases and many of the bills you quoted sounded like rip offs!
@sprautos
5 сағат бұрын
Great insight to what old luxury costs to maintain. So many people buy a once 100k car for a couple of grand and there expectations and reality are miles apart when it comes to keeping these cars going. Great video.
@MeaHeaR
3 сағат бұрын
The transmission conductor plate, also known as the valve body separator plate, is a crucial component in the automatic transmission system of a car. It is made of metal and serves as a gasket that seals the transmission valve body plate and the transmission case. This plate has several tiny holes or passages that allow hydraulic fluid to flow through it to control the flow of transmission fluid to the various solenoids in the valve body, causing the gears to shift smoothly.
@bsport131
9 сағат бұрын
The quality of the components mercedes of that era compared to 80s seems rubbish
@manchegocheese997
5 сағат бұрын
It's important to note that there were no serious engine or transmission issues, and that the high cost of routine repairs, parts and servicing was due to using a Mercedes main dealership. For anyone who can do these mostly simple tasks themselves older Mercedes can be relatively cheap to own, and reliable. In many cases non-OEM replacement parts are easier to source and are cheaper than those for most other makes of car. Furthermore, there are a number of forums and You Tube channels dedicated to explaining how to tackle the most common tasks.
@marklawrence2417
9 сағат бұрын
The door switch covers are a nightmare on these - my driver & passenger one came away. The wiring to the doors is also a known issue as is the gearbox conductor plate (goes into limp mode - Jags which used this box & had the same issue) - had all of that done. Does put me off buying a CL55K - always wanted one...
@andrewfitzmaurice7843
10 сағат бұрын
Looking at this another way, what would it cost to have replaced the car every 3 years. Admittedly you would have a regular new car, without hefty repair costs, but depreciation and possibly finance payments as well would probably mean this would be more expensive.
@waynepantry7023
8 сағат бұрын
Easy answer. Don't take it to the Merc dealer. Why do they keep replacing the brake discs ? Are they made of cheese or the driver has a foot on the brake pedal continuously while driving ? Change the oil yourself for less than $100 and floor it . Great cars. Bad ripoff dealers . . .
@rustyturner431
13 сағат бұрын
Holy Sh*t... This is why I never buy new and I learned how to do all my own mechanical work. I started doing this because I loved quality cars and bikes and had very little money. I could only afford the vehicles I lusted after if there was something big and/or expensive wrong with them. So I learned to fix stuff. Now, decades later, I can afford to pay mechanics but choose to still perform the work myself. I have a proper shop with tools, machine tools and a lift, and I have a good stock of parts and good sources for anything I might lack. I own two 1960s Ferraris and a 420 SEL W126 Mercedes and a garage slam full of motorcycles, and they all work as they should. Over time, I have saved literally hundreds of thousands of dollars/pounds/euros this way, and I got to drive Ferraris/Lancias/Lambos/one Maserati and a slew of Mercedes, well before I could afford them. FYI - one of the things I love about my Ferraris is that there are NO wires in the doors - wind-up windows, manual locks, no speakers, no "courtesy" lights. The lesson contained herein is, if you buy new and keep all the receipts, just don't ever let them near your calculator!! Semper Fi
@fabienpoupon8493
5 сағат бұрын
I wonder if the door panel being replaced many times is not in fact the electronic switches assembly, because someone didn't know that due to the special door's hinges design, the wiring loom fails, and they thought that the switches assembly was dead. The center console thing may in fact be the shifter assembly : a plastic piece is known to fail and leave the shifter stuck in P. The Mercedes dealership replaces the whole shifter assembly, whereas you can find a third-party replacement part made out of metal for cheap on internet, but you have to disassemble the whole shifter assembly by yourself. The first owner was too wealthy to mess with this so he trusted the dealership and let them change expensive devices instead of disassembling and repairing them.
@Birmingham_racing
8 сағат бұрын
I think a Prius would have been a smarter financial choice
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