Good evaluation! I agree with most of your points, but you should also mention: Configuring the audio output pattern T3 / Continuous requires trace cutting on the circuit board and the same goes for high / low audio output configuration. I believe this is a big issue that should have been addressed using configuration jumpers. This would have been a slight cost adder but in my mind worth the extra couple of cents. At that time xenon flash tubes were the only dance in town. Unfortunately, throughout the industry, they were not very efficient resulting in big limitations on how many devices could be controlled by the NAC loop due to line drop and lens degradation that results in a reduced candela output over the operational time due to excessive heat and UV exposure. The newly designed LED type Genesis NACs mechanically and electrically has addressed all the issues you have pointed out. Due to their better efficiency (lower current) all the commercial markets are now moving to LED technologies. Apples to apples (LED to LED) the new LED Genesis line is the most efficient NAC in the marketplace operating at roughly 1/3rd the current load of its older cousin. Now the NAC count per NAC loop can be much greater and much simpler especially on new installs.
@johndeerefan725
3 жыл бұрын
My high school has a lot of these Genesis alarms from 2008, I only saw 2 that were damaged, These alarms are quite common in my area.
@bokon157
7 күн бұрын
Same here
@Camporito25
10 ай бұрын
EST Genesis Alarms are my favorite fire alarms. I would recommend that you get an EST Genesis Chime Strobe. 😎
@NewEnglandElevators
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with just about everything you mention in this video. While they have a neat design (especially the speaker/strobes), probably the biggest thing is the cheap design on these. I have seen out in the field where the speaker wattage and the candela selection indicators are missing (either they broke off or fell off as you demonstrated). Had a NIB speaker/strobe where the candela and the wattage selection tabs broke off immediately upon opening it up for the first time. Tabs are also cheap too. While they aren't meant to be popped on and off often, I agree, they should be able to withstand some impact. Those are a couple of things that first come to mind.
@johndeerefan725
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Genesis remote strobe (fixed candela version) and when I tried to open the cover, it was quite hard to open and I did put quite a bit of force on the tabs and somehow they didn't break off.
@ericsmith6628
Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you enable the comments on your EST genesis fail
@scottbrockman4327
2 жыл бұрын
I have just watched this along with the "worst smoke alarm" video on KZitem, just wish that there was a manual for these type of fire alarms, "please see manual" (what manual ). Aside from that, as far as I can remember back in junior and senior year in high school the "Skills Center" where the majority of the classmates, including me, had these EST Genesis model of fire alarms with the image of a person running out of a burning building, along with the Intergrities in every classroom, the locker room & restrooms (bad idea) and outdoors and the greenhouse as to replace the older models of fire alarms, holy crap they were loud every time we had a monthly "fire drill" . Now, I'm rethinking these as my favorite model of fire alarms 🔥.
@hamzahassan7730
2 жыл бұрын
Huh I thought the horn was soldered onto the board. Very interesting video though. The Genesis is probably one of my favorite alarms since they are compact and does the job with alerting people but wow I’m surprised at how cheaply built it is. But to be fair, fire alarms are meant to be installed and left alone. Right now I am too scared to open my ceiling speaker strobe too much because I don’t want the little tabs to break off. The EST Genesis is unique, compact and effective but certainly not made to be hard to tamper with.
@jacobisworld9516
Жыл бұрын
How come the bigger one is the speaker strobe in the little ones are the horn strobes?
@FireAlarmDude5967
3 жыл бұрын
It appears that one person is offended by the fact I don’t love genesis..yikes! Edit: wow 3 people are offended now
@michellebertrand7702
3 жыл бұрын
I like them because I find they’re easy to install but other than that they are not good.
@CivilDefenseSoutherner
3 жыл бұрын
I kept getting those offensive links on my videos! I did get rid of them on my channel. I also reported your offensive link comments, so you can thank me for that. You can also remove comments from your videos.
@DJ_WILL-k7r
2 жыл бұрын
No offense, but the speaker strobe design is very bad.
@GusThePrankster
2 жыл бұрын
THESE ARE MY FAV ALARMS!!!
@DJ_WILL-k7r
2 жыл бұрын
@@GusThePrankster same.
@MatthewKelley1206
2 жыл бұрын
What I personally like about EST Genesis’s is that they synchronize automatically you don’t even have to hook them up to a sync module when you hook them up to a panel
@joezegers
Жыл бұрын
That is if you use an EST system.
@MatthewKelley1206
Жыл бұрын
@@joezegers they also sync on panels that are not branded by EST
@joezegers
Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewKelley1206 Siemens?
@MatthewKelley1206
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@MatthewKelley1206
Жыл бұрын
They also sync with simplex, silent knight, notifier, and firelite.
@TheKrillWillRule
Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for someone who wants a remote alarm to be triggered by the smoke detector in another building? I have the kit to close/open a relay when the network of smoke detectors go off, I am looking for a remote device to go off when the smoke detector sounds.
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
Genesises are actually pretty nice in some ways. Their tones are awesome, and they synchronize automatically. NO module needed! 2:10 But would you get shocked even if the device is off or disconnected? 3:01 and I HATE how they're so delicate! I've done that many of times. Lol, but these alarms are SO cheaply manufactured and delicate. That's why I don't really bother to install, let alone buy them. Cause' I'm always afraid that I'll 1) get shocked by touching the flash capacitor, and 2) I'll break the tabs and candela selector by accident. XD
@HIDLad001
11 ай бұрын
I've gotten a nasty jolt off of a flash capacitor in a camera once, but at least the camera had a plastic cover that went over the capacitor leads so that you couldn't get shocked by just touching it. That should be a requirement, especially in places like this where it is exposed to everything when you are installing it.
@CivilDefenseSoutherner
2 жыл бұрын
I have an EST Genesis G1RF-P Mini-Horn in my collection - when I installed it on my mock alarm system, you have to remove the cover that exposes the alarm circuitry to screw it in
@ACAAllertor125
8 ай бұрын
Alarms Should have an Option to Choose what it Should do and be Changeable.
@Alwaysdoinit112
16 күн бұрын
These are still better than the new ones
@FireAlarmDude5967
16 күн бұрын
That’s just objectively false
@josephfrye7342
Жыл бұрын
Well it is supposed to secure in place big time but I would say pros and cons of yours
@ryanwoods4691
3 жыл бұрын
I think besides the strobe lens, they are descent devices. But that’s my opinion.
@FireAlarmDude5967
3 жыл бұрын
Eh, the cheap construction also applies to the internals and I’ve had plenty of them just fail right out of the box
@ryanwoods4691
3 жыл бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 that is true, maybe you should try to get a hold of the new LED genises
@firealarmdiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I touched the flash compasitor long ago but thanks to my brain 🧠 i don’t learn lessons very well so yes i do still collect alarms. Im genuinely concerned about me and that high voltages on panels 🤣🤣😂 I like the est genisis design and the sound and a more compact design but those tabs…. I break to many of those things!!!!!
@johndeerefan725
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Genesis remote strobe and somehow the tabs are still intact even though I put some force on them.
@firealarmdiscovery
2 жыл бұрын
@@johndeerefan725 im impressed 😆
@Fahrenheit4051
3 жыл бұрын
Sure, the NES has Mario, but does Mario have self-synchronizing strobes like the Genesis? Edwards do what Nintendon't.
@vintagefirealarmguy5285
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I like the integrity series better than the genesis series
@FireAlarmDude5967
3 жыл бұрын
I ageee
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
ya
@blairshears1121
3 жыл бұрын
i love the fire extinguisher videos!!
@ACAAllertor125
Ай бұрын
At least the LED ones are more reliable.
@DumbLinuxUser
Ай бұрын
I like the design of these alarms. They look very modern. It's pretty unfortunate that these are built cheaply and badly. I've also noticed that some models don't have fire lettering only containing the pictogram of the man running from fire. Some in my area don't even have any lettering as well as a pictogram.
@firealarmfan
Жыл бұрын
Est genesis fire alarm devices use to be the best sold in the usa but the issue is that the parts in the circuit can break easly that can cause the device to malfunction
@firelitelight
2 жыл бұрын
they sound so good
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
THEY DO, BUT I AM SO SCARED TO BUY ONE NOW BECAUSE OF THE FLASH CAPACITOR! 😫
@hilo2-est3-elev
Жыл бұрын
I just noticed that the alarm against the wall has the corners of the strobe lens missing or cut off. The one with the fire trim plate does not.
@FireAlarmDude5967
Жыл бұрын
Good observation, the older genesis units have the corners but the newer units have them cut out
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
The older units have the corners but the newer ones don't
@hilo2-est3-elev
Жыл бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 the older ones also have a “U” shaped lens while the newer ones do not.
@Alwaysdoinit112
8 күн бұрын
I've actually had one shatter. It's very brittle.
@AadiPendse
3 жыл бұрын
Integrity > Genesis imo
@joezegers
Жыл бұрын
The Genesis is actually the successor of the Integrity.
@AadiPendse
Жыл бұрын
@@joezegers Not what I was talking about.
@HappyJigg
3 жыл бұрын
My Genesis has large cracks because I removed the cover. Its almost as bad as the exceder.
@Aero-ko5ex
24 күн бұрын
We have these in svuanabuhmi airport in thailand!
@ericsmith6628
Жыл бұрын
Cut a jumper on one of them
@officialsimplexguy
3 жыл бұрын
Genesises or genesi? Wonder what the actual plural term is for these
@FireAlarmDude5967
3 жыл бұрын
Genesisisesisises’sss’
@officialsimplexguy
3 жыл бұрын
@Aidan M Cash (2023) i dont
@maas1208
Жыл бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967Genocide [I had to put a dark, edgy joke] 💀💀💀
@YogiTheTransitFan
2 жыл бұрын
then theres me wanting to buy an est genesis
@Goodtimes2021
Жыл бұрын
I like the one that has the EST logo
@bronsonthomas1357
Жыл бұрын
What year did these come out my high school replaced the old simplex system then these came i had to think early 2000s
@Skulldozer25
8 ай бұрын
Ok it does make sense that the est/edwards genesis are not the best.
@jzzhang726
2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna buy a genesis, but they are pretty cheap and the flash compasitor is scary
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@AndrewIsAwesome882
2 жыл бұрын
I like the one in the middle.
@jzzhang726
2 жыл бұрын
The plastic lense is true My family’s restaurant LITERALLY has all broken lense
@maas1208
Жыл бұрын
Just use Advances then
@jzzhang726
10 ай бұрын
@@maas1208yeah we have advances in the front and a wheelock as in the back
@blueauraretriever
3 жыл бұрын
Not ganna lie I like integrity way better.
@idkandidc3589
Жыл бұрын
Same
@henrywilliam6325
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting but I still like them
@joeycaridi3030
3 жыл бұрын
LED Genesis Series: 👍 Regular Genesis Series: 👎
@joeycaridi3030
3 жыл бұрын
I first thought that the EST Genesis Series are the bEST but they are the worst!
@nfsprostreetingredientstod5712
Жыл бұрын
If you cut a jumper it’s permanently set to continuous
@ericsmith6628
Жыл бұрын
Don’t cut the jumper
@Bellesba
2 ай бұрын
🎉😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
@ABCEasyas--
3 жыл бұрын
They’re right up there with the Soectralert Advance as the worst sounding alarms. The alarm sounds like someone flapping their lips at a terribly high pitch
@theblueexitsign8249
3 жыл бұрын
I mean they do the job. They piss people off so much by the noise they make they have to leave for the sake of their ears. Lol
@firealarmfan
Жыл бұрын
Est Integritys are way better than the est genesis
@chris-SDI
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@Emmisullivan14
Жыл бұрын
You mean “Every Single Trouble” alarms? 😂
@FireAlarmDude5967
Жыл бұрын
Haha
@achannelwithnopurpose1977
2 жыл бұрын
Cheap... Notice a pattern here folks? Especially with the other appliances EST offers? Yeah.
@MichaelJones-xh4ds
2 жыл бұрын
Your wrong number 1. 2 get a life est is my life.
@FireAlarmDude5967
2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂
@MichaelJones-xh4ds
2 жыл бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 as I mean get a life I mean understand est didn't make fire alarms to be hated
@FireAlarmDude5967
2 жыл бұрын
@Michael Jones nobody said EST made fire alarms just to be hated
@MichaelJones-xh4ds
2 жыл бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 yeah but your hating on them
@FireAlarmDude5967
2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelJones-xh4ds no…I literally said ONE product line was bad
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