I was the stunt coordinator and military adviser on 'Enemy at the Gates ' I was also the feldwebel shot in the head when Jude is firing from the fountain after the charge across the square. As an ex movie armourer and WW2 military history buff, I went to quite a lot of trouble to get it as 'right' as possible but I certainly didn't know about the dates that the Nagant sights came out. When we shot the movie in 2000, the internet information was still in its infancy and not the amazing source of information it is today so I apologise that I failed on the rivet counting field. However, I did take Jude and Ed out on a range outside Berlin and got them to fire 80 rounds of ball ammo with their respective rifles to get the feel of proper recoil and got Jude used to carrying his rifle across his chest thus protecting the sight at all times. I'd told Ed to keep his head back from the sight but it was very cold on that day in January and after about 70 rounds, they were both pretty tired. Ed got too close to his sight and the recoil bit him and opened up his eyebrow which needed a couple of stitches which you can see if you look closely in some of the earlier scenes. I certainly wasn't aware of the Finnish converted Nagants as at that stage, the production was crazy busy and I think we all had bigger fish to fry! Hope people enjoyed the movie as it was one of the coldest and miserable locations I've had to experience as we shot from January to end of March. Jim Dowdall
@PlastoJoe
7 ай бұрын
It's a fun movie! You should reach out to Corridor Digital for their "stuntmen react" series; I bet they'd love to hear any other stories you have from on set.
@bryanpropp2179
7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this inside information! Historical fiction is still fiction. They are entertainment and not historical documents. I enjoyed the film and the guns were close enough to serve the purpose. Kudos!
@ForgottenWeapons
7 ай бұрын
Very cool, thanks for the first-hand account! :)
@notshapedforsportivetricks2912
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the details. It's always nice to get the info first hand. Minor glitches didn't affect the high quality of the film.
@DirkaDirka-n9j
7 ай бұрын
Loved the movie
@c1ph3rpunk
7 ай бұрын
“I’m not an expert in German sniper rifles”. My soul has been crushed, I just naturally assumed Ian had it all memorized, down to the serial number blocks of the screws used to attach the scope. “And to hold the screws in they used a German version of Loc-Tite, made in Dresden in 1940, on a Tuesday by a gentleman named Hans who ironically skipped breakfast that morning which is why the scope didn’t hold that day. If only Hans had a couple eggs, the war might have turned out differently”.
@Justanotherconsumer
7 ай бұрын
Experts know what they don’t know. It’s very, very comforting to hear an expert say that they’re not an expert in something - it means they’re not a know-it-all.
@HeronPoint2021
7 ай бұрын
touche. it's the high standard from Ian we've been conditioned to see and appreciate. and you're hilarious.
@uncletiggermclaren7592
7 ай бұрын
I thought the exact same thing. To be clear, NOT the part about Hans' contribution to the axis defeat, the OTHER bit, about being surprised Iain isn't an expert about some firearm.
@yepiratesworkshop7997
7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣👍👍
@isaacnervion7064
7 ай бұрын
Man you made my day😂
@Fugettaboutit
7 ай бұрын
In 'Back To The Future', when Marty is onstage playing guitar at the dance, he is playing a guitar that technically shouldn't exist for another three years.
@snpr1022
7 ай бұрын
Yup gibson 335 I mentioned this on a back to the future vid. Good to see another guitar nerd on here.
@NikoMoraKamu
7 ай бұрын
in the directors cut Marty travels in time to get the amp and the guitar
@OfMoachAndMayhem
7 ай бұрын
He's also not really "playing" it - just finger-bashing over the fretboard and hoping there aren't any real guitar players in the audience. But, then again... He's also doing time travel and hoping like hell there aren't any fundamental laws of the universe around either, so I guess the guitar is the least of his problems... That's probably the musician's equivalent of the gun nerd's spotting that the actors aren't using the sights properly. Makes sense though, as photography makes demands that scope geometries most inconsiderately fail to accommodate.
@Fugettaboutit
7 ай бұрын
@@OfMoachAndMayhem what's interesting is that apparently, they originally had a period-correct Gibson ES5 in blonde, but director Zemeckis wanted a 'red guitar'. Well, Gibson didn't have any guitars in red, at least not the hollowbody electric type until like '59. So whether or not production was aware, they cheated it by a few years. Of course, the majority of moviegoers wouldn't notice. Heck I was already a guitar player and I didn't realize at the time either.
@XtreeM_FaiL
7 ай бұрын
So that is why he kick it down.
@Movingfrag
7 ай бұрын
Ok, as far as my grandpa said (he was in USSR marines during the WW2) they wore maxim belts not to use with maxim guns - they had not enough of these - but to hold additional rounds for their Mosin-Nagant rifles. They preferred belts over ammo pouches because 1. it makes it easier to top off couple of rounds when you are on the go and 2. it is easier to swim with these belts if you happen to get in water. They loaded every other hole because it makes it easier to get round out of the belt - especially at winter or in wet weather where hands gets cold and because it makes it more flexible and more wearable. So here is my $0.02.
@DavidMagradze
2 ай бұрын
True! These were used even before WW2. If you see archive photo/film footage of the 1917 Bolshevik revolution and the civil war, you will see these belts on soldiers, with or without maxims.
@joenicotera2991
12 күн бұрын
When I was younger, I heard the same. The belts were shipped fully loaded; this was in part so that the German intelligence would learn that there was an intention to use machine guns. As such, the Germans followed the "standard strategy" of organizing their men into mortar squads. This provided the men using what ammunition did get through the German lines with an enemy that they knew how to efficiently fight. (The worst thing the Russians could do was try to organize their men into machine gun squads. The lifespan of a front-line machine gunner is rather short.) Overall, the reality was that the Russians spent a majority of their time trying to bury their dead and that was their only universal strategy. They singled out an area where the bodies needed to be moved and organized a way of fighting the enemies who were preventing in. They made considerable efforts to steal captured machine guns because they only needed to look at their belts to read their orders. Wouldn't call it two cents but it isn't mine.
@widehotep9257
7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Next, please do "Raiders of the Lost Ark", where MP-40's, Walther P-38's and Soviet RPG-2's time travel back to 1933!
@MrAvenger1975
6 ай бұрын
Well, 1936, but, yeah, those weapons still shouldn't've existed at that point, either.
@widehotep9257
6 ай бұрын
@@MrAvenger1975 You're correct: Raiders of the Lost Ark was set in 1936, not 1933. I got my years mixed up! That's what happens when I don't fact-check my own comment.
@Truth_Teller_101
5 ай бұрын
The "Well, ack-tually..." people have crawled out of the woodwork. You know what else was wrong about Raiders of the Lost Ark? Everything. There is no Ark of the Covenant, and if there were, if you opened it up angels wouldn't fly out and melt everyone's face. And don't get me started on the one with the magic stones in India, or the one with the Holy Grail and the 700 year old Knight...
@widehotep9257
4 ай бұрын
@@Truth_Teller_101 I think we can all excuse the supernatural science fiction elements of these films. But putting an MP-40 in a 1936-era film is inexcusable and legal grounds for full-refunds.
@Truth_Teller_101
4 ай бұрын
@@widehotep9257 If you're okay with the "supernatural" elements, then the MP-40 in 1936 is just part of the fantasy. Maybe it's an alternate universe where the MP-40 was developed a few years earlier. The point is it is strange the things you folks choose to get pedantic about and what you are willing to ignore.
@fredbloggs5902
7 ай бұрын
My dad used to take great delight in pointing out the errors in films, one example being the Spitfire in ‘Battle of Britain’ (1969) that had too many blades on the propeller for that time of the war (4 vs 3).
@jamesdalton2014
7 ай бұрын
That is quite a nit-pick. I imagine all the Luftwaffe aircraft sporting Merlin engines must have been quite galling for him.
@fredbloggs5902
7 ай бұрын
@@jamesdalton2014Yes, the Messerschmitts were really recently retired Spanish Buchons, he did point that out as well 🤣 He found it amusing how long they were in service.
@DjDolHaus86
7 ай бұрын
How many times have you heard about the telltale cut out and puff of smoke produced by the hurricane that does a barrel roll at the start of the movie?
@mikehipperson
7 ай бұрын
Does anyone else remember the scene when Robert Shaw comes out of 'his house' and there is a post war, plastic bell push mounted to the doorframe?
@johnsanko4136
7 ай бұрын
He would love sites like the internet movie plane data base.
@craigbolton5093
7 ай бұрын
I build vintage road-race cars. This is why no one wants to watch period motorsports movies with me.
@SamuraiAkechi
7 ай бұрын
That's actually pretty cool. I bet it's also quite expensive.
@ItsMrAssholeToYou
7 ай бұрын
@@SamuraiAkechi They're all used, so it's cheaper. 😉
@UznebuduMlcet
7 ай бұрын
😆
@l2ic3
7 ай бұрын
i love racing but never really seen many racing movies. what are the most realistic historic racing movies?
@lmaolmoo4147
7 ай бұрын
Same with people who practice HEMA and have a vague knowledge of medieval arms and armor. Makes “historical” medieval movies unbearable.
@fearthehoneybadger
7 ай бұрын
I remember a set designer for a movie saying that they worked to achieve a feel for the time and place rather than for total accuracy. Sometimes, they just couldn't get the exact props, so they just came as close as they could.
@Eirik_Jarl
7 ай бұрын
This film failed at creating the appropriate feel for the time and place, so there's that...
@fearthehoneybadger
7 ай бұрын
@Eirik_Jarl I don't agree. Even if you knew basic history of the event, this was a good, historical representation. Except that Major Koenig didn't exist.
@cedhome7945
7 ай бұрын
I've been a extra on several films and it's disappointing when the historical experts ( 20year old fresh out of art collage )says they resurched this time period for the last 3 weeks when me and my friends have studied the details of the battle for 25+ years .and yes there are lots of people around the world who do know
@PropagandalfderWeiße
7 ай бұрын
@@fearthehoneybadger They have so much wrong, I am a soviet and German reenactor, it is almost insulting how much they got wrong... Top example would be the way they portray the soviets, 1 gets the rifle the other the ammunition, that is just bs. Also the way they portrayed order 277 is also just wrong
@Eirik_Jarl
7 ай бұрын
@@CapraObscura Exactly. It's a punchline. The whole movie is a punchline. It has a message and uses its cinematography to display it, not the other way around.
@adamcichon6957
7 ай бұрын
I'm passing it as fun curiosity. Retired lieutenant colonel of Polish Army, Marek Czerwiński wrote a book "Sniper duels". It's a collection of short stories, which plot of some is placed at eastern front of WW2. I don't know how much these are influenced by real events, but it's quite good reading. In one story, soviet sniper Achmetianov is using DIY modified M91/30 PU. It is described, that he chopped off whole front of the stock right after the first barrelband in front of the rear sight (because upper handguard kept cracking), polished trigger mechanism to lighten it up a little, fastened buttstock leather boot filled with felt, improvised rised cheek rest with several layers of thick leather, mounted piece of tube on the front of the scope as anti reflection measure. He was experienced pre war hunter, so he basicaly "sporterized" his rifle. Other story is about other pre war hunter, now sniper, Pchelintsev, that climbed onto the pylon of the blown up bridge, over the Neva river, near the Leningrad. Mostly he was scouting and noting spotted German positions on the other riverbank, but when the german artillery was firing he was popping some accurate shots with his 91/30 PE. As this story goes, he survived only because enemies didn't suspected someone insane enough to climb onto the blown up bridge.
@williamwilliam5066
2 ай бұрын
Beliee a Pole and you'd believe anything.
@joshchu
7 ай бұрын
Random fact: In Platoon, Tom Berenger was carrying a cold steel defender push dagger, which cold steel as a company wasn't even founded until 1980.
@mpetersen6
7 ай бұрын
Ricky Nelson in Rio Bravo beats 'em all with his appearing and disappearing bullet holes.
@widehotep9257
7 ай бұрын
@@mpetersen6 Raiders of the Lost Ark: MP-40's, Walther P-38's, and Soviet RPG-2's magically exist in 1933, YEARS before they were created!
@HSS1335SS
7 ай бұрын
In Goodfellas the Idlewild airport scene is stamped 1963 yet they are leaning on the back of a 1965 Impala
@_Jay_Maker_
7 ай бұрын
@@widehotep9257The RPG in Raiders blows my mind every time I see it. 😆
@Malt454
7 ай бұрын
Raiders of the Lost Ark: the staff is explicitly supposed to be 5 ft. tall... 6 kadam high ("about 72 inches") and take back one kadam to honor the Hebrew God whose Ark this is... and it towers over Jones in the map room. If the Germans couldn't find the Ark because they were digging in the wrong place, then Jones never should have found it either because his staff was even longer than theirs. Most explicit continuity error in film.
@SamuraiAkechi
7 ай бұрын
4:16 PE and PEM used to come in two varieties, with the Geco style side rail mount and with Smirnsky top mount 10:26 in his memoirs Zaitsev wrote that he had a Berdan - most likely a shotgun conversion, a super affordable civilian firearm back in 1900-1920. After that the bottom line of affordable guns was replaced with Frolov Mosin shotgun conversions and break action shotguns based on Iver Johnson design.
@brokeandtired
7 ай бұрын
A Berdan would make sense as by the 1920's the Soviet military would have wanted to remove the Berdan army from its supply chain and fully convert to a standard type of gun. These Berdans would probably have been allowed to be allowed to disappear into civilian use, by "enterprising" commanders for cash.
@SamuraiAkechi
7 ай бұрын
@@brokeandtired decision to convert and sell Berdans for civilians was made before WWI by tsarist government under influence of captain Sergey Zybin (1862-1942, he was later promoted to major general and did some gun factory work for Bolsheviks), the head of hunting guns repair shop at Royal Tula Arms Factory. The idea was to arm civilian hunters with affordable and reliable centerfire shotguns as well as clean up the warehouse space for newer Mosin rifles. After Civil War soviets have decided to convert Mosins, and my grandfather had a Frolov gun like that. Unlike Berdans, Frolovs often used to come with sporterised stocks.
@MrPh30
7 ай бұрын
Berdan 2 rifles likely as it was midt made of them all and well likes by many .
@SamuraiAkechi
7 ай бұрын
@@brokeandtired Conversion of Berdan No.2 into shotguns was a centralised effort. Most people couldn't afford reliable centerfire guns which would be good for hunting as well as defending cattle and crops from bandits or wildlife. Lots of people back then still used muzzleloaders and couldn't afford proper centerfire guns - for example, a pretty average Auguste Francotte SxS bought by Lenin used to cost 55 roubles (that's around 3 1/3 average factory salaries) and TOZ-B 16 ga shotgun would cost from 30 to 80 roubles. And Tsarist government needed to clear the warehouse space for Mosin rifles. Converted Berdan was three times cheaper than TOZ-B. After Civil War Soviet government has kept this policy of making simple consumer conversions, but they also developed some new designs and imported guns like Iver Johnson Champion and Sauer VIII.
@alcedob.5850
7 ай бұрын
Any old rifle would be called a berdan back then so it really could be anything but yeah, most likely an actual berdan 2
@АлексейКосарчук
7 ай бұрын
Maxim belts were used as makeshift bandoliers to carry ammo for rifles, not to feed them into machinegun.
@RyTrapp0
7 ай бұрын
Right - but skipping every other round, all the way around the belt?
@АлексейКосарчук
7 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0You right, it's weird. Probably filmmakers didn't knew really what they were doing
@ianfinrir8724
7 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0It looks cooler that way.
@fuzzy1dk
7 ай бұрын
@@RyTrapp0 easier to grab and pull out a round when they are spaced out?
@DamnYankee-rg8pg
7 ай бұрын
@@fuzzy1dkIt would distribute the weight more evenly if you don't have enough ammo to fill the whole thing. An important consideration if you're on the move.
@velociraptor555
7 ай бұрын
Hello Ian, I've seen a lot of your videos and first I have to say: Thank you very much, I was always impressed. Very good work every time. Your detailed knowledge is really impressive! Now to Enemy... Hard to believe, but as luck would have it, I was one of the German weapon masters for this film. I was very fresh on film sets and just a newbie, a beginner, but I learned a lot there. I often gave the gun to Jude Law, Ed Harris, Rachel Weisz and also Ron Perlman. Not to forget the many extras. We arrived with the weapons by truck, I was the driver for a while, there was so much stuff and of course, how could it be otherwise, I even got into a police check once. Stopped by police in Germany with a truck full of weapons. Not a nice feeling... But everything was fine, papers were good, no problems. Nice little story by the way. Of course the policeman wanted to look in the back when he knew what I had loaded. I showed him a few things, opened a few boxes and some steel cabinets. But he didn't check any weapon numbers or any other details. A cabinet MP38/40, a cabinet PpSh, MG42 & 34, boxes Mosin Nagant, K98k's. some pistols and not forgetting the 4 Maxim machine guns... he just "looked at" everything, didn't "check" anything. As it turned out later, he knew the truck because we parked it at a police station at night and it was from that station. Everyone there knew about this film shoot, it was a big deal, and he was just curious to see with his own eyes this truckload of weapons, these weapons from this film. Police officers are curious people too... I wasn't the one responsible, but I know that a lot of research was done beforehand, that we determined the sniper weapons for each role and handpicked them. Of course, the director had the final word, and then they were not exchanged for the entire shoot. I can only confirm Jim Dowdall, who also wrote here. Everyone tried their best to make everything as precise as possible, every detail was taken into account. The fact that such a mistake happened can only be because we simply didn't have this detailed information and the Internet at the time was nowhere near what it is today. You can perhaps see this in the fact that it took almost 25 years for anyone to notice. If I understood correctly, the time difference is not that big. And I also faintly remember that there was once talk of a museum. Not what or how, but that might explain things. Shouldn't be an excuse, a mistake is a mistake. Your detailed expertise here is simply unbeatable. I suspect that such an error would be easily possible and perhaps even likely with today's Internet. Two quick things: You're right, Tanja's weapon was actually intentionally not intended to be a military weapon and the fact that Volodya had it later was also intentional. Unfortunately I can't remember the reasons, but I do remember that it was intended that way. And the Marines were dressed by the costume people. They had our weapons, but the straps were from the costume. As far as I know, they only had the Maxim straps on because it looked good. An example of our work on the details: under no circumstances were we allowed to change anything about the fabric wrapped around the weapons. (Except for the intentional changes over the course of the story) The sniper weapons were always treated and stored separately. When we had to remove it once, I don't remember why, we photographed the thing from all sides beforehand and restored it exactly. And take a few quick photos with your smartphone, not possible, it didn't exist back then... And something else remarkable by the way: When we needed Russian weapons from that time a few years ago, around 20 years after the filming, this Vazili sniper weapon came out of a gun case. Unchanged, the fabric still wrapped around it! Nobody used this weapon again for “normal” film shooting. Nobody wanted to put this special weapon among the others again. This shows you how special this film was for us. Even with the extras, we made sure that, if possible, they always got the same weapons so that there were no continuity errors. There are some and I know the reason why, but that stays with me. My English isn't that perfect, but if I understood it correctly, there were some words of praise. So in the end, thank you very much for that. I also hope that most people enjoyed the film and that we did a good job overall.
@franz-dominikimhof4940
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for these very entertaining stories from behind the curtains!
@Wuestenkarsten
4 ай бұрын
@velociraptor555: LOL....the Story of being stopped by the German Police....I am 100% Sure that for them this was a "Big Deal"! Just now on IWA( where I saw Ian first Time in my Life for real, THX Ian for the Photos!) I was at the CZ Group Exhibition Stand and watching the CZ Scorpion, and as it happend another Shooter and myself had a Discussion about the Gun itself, as suddenly, out of the nowhere 2 Bavarian Police Man came to us and asking us detailed Questions about that Weapon. For them, so I had the Feeling, it was the first Time they had an Eye for other Weapons instead of their Service Pistol, and we answered all their Questions. For them it was an exciting "Work Day" as it was for us privat Persons an exciting Day off. Had a lot of Fun together with them. So, my best Regards to the Bavarian Police, absolut honest and professional Person´s who made a good Day even better!
@romgl4513
7 ай бұрын
The hunting "rifle" used is, if I am not mistaken (and I probably not), a Frolov conversion of a Mosin rifle, these were made since 1920 by converting Mosin rifles into a single-shot, smooth-bore weapons intended for civilian use, hunting and guard duty. Called a Frolovka, this conversion was very popular and the name became generalized for all smooth-bore conversions, even the guns from before the revolution, Berdan, Krnka and Arisaka. The front bead sight and the checkering are a common attributes of the Frolov conversion.
@romgl4513
7 ай бұрын
Russian Wikipedia has an article about the Frolovka, but, interesting enough, only with Japanese language option, probably because of the Arisaka converted rifles.
@me.ne.frego.
7 ай бұрын
But those still fired 7,62x54R on a smoothbore, or were bored-out to fire very small shotgun shells?
@romgl4513
7 ай бұрын
@@me.ne.frego. smoothbore 32, 28, 24 or (rarely) 20 and 16 gauge, chamber length 70 мм, rarely - 65 мм. Source - Wikipedia.
@romgl4513
7 ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/l29vuptmqYSbnnY Hope the link works, one of these conversions on KZitem.
@romgl4513
7 ай бұрын
Another one, in action kzitem.info/news/bejne/06dn2H1_kpxhqII
@blackvo1d
7 ай бұрын
Maxim belts were used as expedient bandoliers. Either due to shortages of ammo pouches or to look like iconic revolutionary sailors of 1917. Or both. In general all troops in naval infantry brigades were wearing regular army khakis and only kept striped shirt and naval peakless cap with them. But in this case naval uniforms are correct as sailors of Volga flotilla were pressed into infantry roles as their riverine ships were massacred by Stukas.
@tokul76
7 ай бұрын
Those sailors got "Military Sea Fleet" caps. Not riverine navy. 64th army had Pacific fleet infantry and Moscow naval school marines in Stalingrad.
@andrewdenzov3303
7 ай бұрын
About ‘marines’. Sailors was a big part of revolution in 1917 but they don’t have any kind of webbing to carry rifle ammo. But they have loads of Maxim MG and belts on ships. So they use it to carry rifle ammo. Since cross belted sailor become iconic image of revolution. And during WW2 many sailors were transferred to infantry units and they still didn’t have webbing for rifle ammo so they again use MG belts to carry it
@freddieguyote1618
7 ай бұрын
Yeah there are lots of photos of Soviet naval infantry wearing maxim belts as a means to carry ammo for their rifles, though most have the majority of the slots filled. I guess the argument could be made that spacing the rounds to every other slot would make it easier to grab one bullet at a time out of the belt for loading the rifle.
@petrimakela5978
7 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't the sailors use the stripper clips that were issued with Mosins and how they were trained to load the rifles? Finns just carried those in pockets.
@callsigncoyote7931
7 ай бұрын
I think there’s still guys that do that now with PKM belts
@sadmeatshield939
7 ай бұрын
I would imagine loading every other slot would also make it much easier to pluck out individual rounds for reloads.
@andybrown4284
7 ай бұрын
Odd thing to me is if the ammo was simply being carried why not load the belts where you can get access to it rather than having rounds lurking in the small of your back where it'd be a real hassle to get to while being shot at
@michaelwhite9199
7 ай бұрын
I never noticed the reversed image from the movie poster. Good catch.
@panzerabwerkanone
7 ай бұрын
REEEEEEALLLLLYYYY?
@c32amgftw
7 ай бұрын
Imperial Mosins had an open front sight. Many, if not all of the WW1 Mosins used by Russians didn’t have the visor thing around front sight either. That front sight actually resembles what a period correct Mosin from the imperial era would look like. Zaitsev appears about 6yo in the opening wolf scene, that would make it roughly 1921, only a few years after the beginning of the revolution, which is most likely what that front sight would have looked like. As far as checkering on the stock, it’s a privately owned rifle, so checkering is not out of the ordinary. The scope insert does give it away though, but kudos to the crew for trying to make it authentic.
@jimyeats
7 ай бұрын
I think Ian noted though that it was a m91/30 base rifle they were using though, not a WW1 era Mosin.
@onelonecelt9168
7 ай бұрын
Even then the sight is wrong. Look up pictures of the front sights on the Imperial rifles. I had a Finnish 91 with the original Russian sights and it is much different. A small boxy base with a thicker blade that is just flat on top.
@MauldtheMan
7 ай бұрын
Prop department canonicity issues are something I first saw in ZULU, where during the final Zulu charge there are very clearly Lee-Enfield rifles with their bolts removed to look *enough* like Martini-Henrys, likely because they just didn't have enough Martinis around for so many guys!
@onelonecelt9168
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, to be honest I didn't notice the Lee Enfields until I saw the arm motion of working a bolt instead of a lever. It seems they generally tried to keep them to the rear. But in two scenes after the troops being in a bundle and reforming they are the closest to the camera.
@richardturton6900
7 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Webley Mk 6 revolvers.
@artemusp.folgelmeyer4821
6 ай бұрын
Could they have been Lee-Metford?
@heimvar
7 ай бұрын
9:44 I think the German iron cross night be a more apt description of what those sight hairs look like imo
@TrangleC
7 ай бұрын
Not sure where it was, but there used to be a dubbed version of a Wehrmacht sniper training video on KZitem. Interestingly the lessons they taught there are always ignored by evil Nazi snipers in Hollywood movies. Stuff like that you switch position after every shot or that you avoid tempting but obvious and hard to escape positions like bell towers.
@Eye_Of_Odin978
7 ай бұрын
Yeah. They make German snipers act more like Imperial Japanese snipers, who actually did frequently strand themselves in obvious shooting positions like trees and such.
@TrangleC
7 ай бұрын
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 From all I've learned sniping in WW2 didn't look like it is depicted in this "Enemy at the Gates" movie anyways. 99% of sniping was just the same as in WW1, with the sniper sitting in a trench and waiting for someone in the trench on the other side to stick his head out. They basically were just sentries taking potshots. Even the concept of a retreating force leaving behind snipers to slow down an advancing enemy rarely happened, because when you can do that, you usually also can set up a proper L-shaped ambush and just wipe out a advancing scouting party like the one in "Saving Private Ryan" for example. Scattering a landscape with single snipers wasn't really part of the playbook, at least not in the European theater.
@RyTrapp0
7 ай бұрын
@@TrangleC Sounds kinda like what a lot of snipers were doing in the middle east since the 2000s or so. A handful deployed on a roof top, all set up just waiting for targets to make themselves known, that sort of thing.
@KevinThomas-ok2ev
7 ай бұрын
If you read Capt. C. Shores’ “With British Snipers to the Reich,” he mentions specifically that most reports of “snipers” were nothing more than regular German infantry fighting rear guard actions, and doing it very well. He also describes one of the only times that they ran into actual German snipers while attempting to take a small village. They inflicted a number of casualties, but were eventually forced to displace (using excellent field craft, according to his own account) under artillery fire. He said they escaped without any casualties that the Brits could discern.
@cjod33
7 ай бұрын
I've never understood why anyone would choose a bell tower as a nest. Unless you're suicidal.😂
@kaymio6547
7 ай бұрын
Have you ever been approached by a prop gun company or some filmmaker to assist in making a film more accurate with regard to guns in the movie?
@Ducking69
Ай бұрын
He did some work on battlefield or smth iirc
@ЗвездыБольшойПротуберанец
7 ай бұрын
As for the machine gun belts worn by the Marines, there are photographs from the time of the 1917 revolution in which sailors, soldiers and other revolutionary fighters wear Maxim belts in which cartridges are loaded at intervals. These bands were simply used as bandoliers. A revolutionary sailor wrapped in machine gun belts is a classic image from soviet films about the era of the october revolution and the civil war, and in old films you can also see belts equipped with cartridges in this way , with intervals.
@ЗвездыБольшойПротуберанец
7 ай бұрын
Here are a couple of photos: s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/3/7/0/15867073.jpg The second photo is from an old film. novate.ru/files/u34476/matrosiirevolucia1.JPG
@StahortheDark
7 ай бұрын
Sailor with half-loaded belts - this is to carry ammo for the rifle, and single-load; not for Maxim.
@robertkalinic335
7 ай бұрын
I am sure i saw photos and posters of soviet marines with belts fully loaded.
@darkiee69
7 ай бұрын
Or to reload stripper clips.
@PawFromTheBroons
7 ай бұрын
One movie with unwarranted gun errors is 2021 The Forgotten Battle. With troops going to fight and back with Lee Enfield MkIV, but filmed in all action shots using SMLE. That's downright puzzling as it happens in every single scene. 😆
@uncletiggermclaren7592
7 ай бұрын
Probably someone said "No, these are too valuable to let them jump around and crawl about with, give them the SMLEs for the action scenes.
@alasdairstewart8498
7 ай бұрын
In regards to the sporterized PU mosin; I'm guessing that at the time this movie was filmed (what was it, late 90's early 00's?) the production team for the studio probably had a couple of PU mosins in stock that had been sporterized after the war, saying "hey why not save a few bucks and throw it in for the childhood wolf scene?" and just painted the metal parts of the mounting bracket and hoped the audience's suspension of disbelief would take care of the rest.
@AllAboutSurvival
7 ай бұрын
the use of M91/30 PU rifles for Soviet snipers during the Battle of Stalingrad might raise an eyebrow for those of us who delve deep into historical accuracy, but let's face it, the PU was iconic and easily recognizable
@dak4465
7 ай бұрын
The waybi see it is the maxim belts may be being used as a bandolier, and they only loaded every other slot so the rounds would be easier to grab Just my thoughts
@darkiee69
7 ай бұрын
I had the same thought.
@Lopik-rn6uw
7 ай бұрын
The soviet marines likely aren't wearing the maxim belts for the machinegun use, but as an ammo storage for themselfs. Maybe they were underfunded and underequipped and had to resort to using the belts, as they didn't have enought actual ammo pouches. It also seems to be a very common practice as in almost every photo they can be seen wearing those belts in the X cross style, often with rounds missing in various spots on the belt.
@randomnobodovsky3692
7 ай бұрын
It was also the most fashionable look for naval infantry. Just like political officers in 1920s loved the leather jacket/coat + Mauser pistol.
@kevinoliver3083
7 ай бұрын
In the early stages of the Great Patriotic War Soviet Naval Infantry were mostly ordinary sailors deployed "straight off the boat". They were poorly equipped and much of their 7.62×54mm was loaded into Maxim belts. So they repurposed the Maxim belts as bandoleers. An image that became a propaganda trope.
@bigczech7
7 ай бұрын
I think this is a great movie, I only clicked on this because I love this channel and am always interested in what Ian has to say about the history of firearms. It’s so cool you commented on this, thank you Jim
@brandonlebarge1186
7 ай бұрын
I have had a standard infantry mosin for years, I just purchased a carbine mosin to add to the collection a few days ago, it would be amazing to complete the "Infantry, carbine, sniper" set for my collection! Thanks for the awesome content as always Ian, keep it up!
@MasterChronometer
7 ай бұрын
Finally Ian’s replaced the Casio F91 with a Marathon GSAR, good choice.
@pwr2al4
7 ай бұрын
Perhaps the best dive watch ever made imo.
@ForgottenWeapons
7 ай бұрын
Username checks out...
@guywiththebottle
7 ай бұрын
I had to look up Casio F91, Marathon GSAR and Chronometer to understand what you an Ian were on about. Before that, I thought you were discussing guns 🙈
@khaaaaaaaaaannn
7 ай бұрын
Funnily enough I came to the comment section to see if anyone had asked what watch Ian was wearing, because I'd only ever seen him in an F-91W before. Glad it's been covered already 👍🏻
@Wigggy
7 ай бұрын
First thing I noticed as well, only because im wearing the 36mm version. Marathon divers are great, tough watches.
@thewisecow6323
7 ай бұрын
I'm literally watching enemy at the gates right now. Have to give this a watch. I still enjoy the film even with its inaccuracies.
@wusb8
7 ай бұрын
if you dont like movies for their inaccuracies, dont watch videos that werent filmed on location.
@widehotep9257
7 ай бұрын
I always thought Enemy at the Gates was a disappointing film. It didn't feel real or capture me in the same way as Saving Private Ryan and The Thin Red Line.
@thewisecow6323
7 ай бұрын
@@widehotep9257 In terms of gritty realism it falls short I agree (especially in comparison to saving private Ryan). But as a dramatic exploration of themes such as jealousy and heroism I love it. And the setting is very underrepresented, especially considering the undeniable impact of the Soviet victory in Stalingrad. But each to their own.
@widehotep9257
7 ай бұрын
@@thewisecow6323 Thanks for your thoughts. I haven't watched it since it came out. I'll give it another shot with your review in mind!
@supabass4003
7 ай бұрын
being left handed is bourgeoisie, didn't you know?
@The_Red_Off_Road
7 ай бұрын
In a sad way, that sounds like something they would have said! 😂
@FirstDagger
7 ай бұрын
@@The_Red_Off_Road ; "In the Soviet Union, all left-handed students were forced to write with their right hand in the Soviet educational system."
@The_Red_Off_Road
7 ай бұрын
@@FirstDagger so that’s why they don’t have any baseball over there? You can’t have a good game of baseball without a few southpaws. Freaking commies…
@supabass4003
7 ай бұрын
well there you go lol, big brain Russians at it again.@@FirstDagger
@fkakasumi9713
7 ай бұрын
@@FirstDagger To be fair, that was literally the entire world until like, the 1970s. The old school way of thinking was that left-handdness is sinister, or incorrect. Going to school in the US in the early 2000s, I was forced to write with my right hand
@chrisamos888
7 ай бұрын
Ian you missed the fact that nearly all of the small arms shown in the Stalingrad battle scenes are post war refurbs. The one that vasily is shown with has the post war shellac finish and the post war sling escutcheons. They are solid style pressed in. War time would have only had a piece of sheet metal. The rifle shown that his grandfather had has a pre 1941 low wall receiver too that would not even allow a solid lock up with a pu scope base.
@Draugo
6 ай бұрын
I don't know why but considering how small of a nation we are, Finland seems to pop up really often in the weirdest of ways.
@Myhouse69420
7 ай бұрын
Maybe the marines we’re using the maxim belts as an improvised bandolier?
@ianfinrir8724
4 ай бұрын
They were. It started as a necessity and ended up becoming a propaganda image.
@David_Crayford
7 ай бұрын
Amusing. This is like an evening in watching films with the lads, but without the beer.
@kevinoliver3083
7 ай бұрын
Re the partisan carbine. As the front shifted, the Red Army often assimilated partisans directly into its ranks. Deploying them as infantry with minimal re-equipment, other than a uniform. If they had a functional weapon, firing standard issue ammunition, an ex-partisan might well keep using it, until they, or it, became a casualty.
@janwacawik7432
7 ай бұрын
12:02 Hey Ian, have you considered that this gun could be a Polish wz.91/98/23 (a M1891 Mosin converted to 8mm Mauser, cut down to carbine length and fitted with Mauser 98 style barrel bands and bayonet lug), with the front barrel band missing (you can even see that the stock and handguard are worn down in the spot where the Mauser front band would fit) and fitted with a sight protector?
@Rikipedia42
7 ай бұрын
Is it definitely Maxim ammunition in the Volga boat Marine picture? Or could the marines pictured be using a maxim belt as a bandolier to carry 7.62x54R for their Mosins?
@matthewmudgett7413
7 ай бұрын
There’s another scene where Tonya is carrying a full-size mosin and actually has an awkward time navigating a scene with it slung over her shoulder. It’s possible they intentionally showed her assimilating into the regular army, and in the process her shorter handier carbine got traded to someone who was tired of dealing with a full-length 91/30
@HellbirdIV
7 ай бұрын
The reversed Mosin on the poster might seem like a random choice, but it's actually a very conscious bit of composition - assuming the poster designer was doing their job properly, of course. As most of us read left-to-right, you compose the image left-to-right, with the expectation that the viewer's eye will go over the faces of the characters - in this case looking forward at the viewer, then to the side, drawing the attention further to the rifle, and in the bottom you repeat that with the person in the crosshairs and the downward slope of the rubble. The reason the Mosin-Nagant is reversed is because you want the rifle's action to be visible, the same reason a lot of older FPS games like the original Counter-Strike had left-handed bolt-handles and ejection ports. The gun has to be oriented with the action at the bottom of the screen so that the larger action doesn't cover the actors' faces on the center of the poster, and it has to be on the right-hand side for the aforementioned left-to-right perspective. That means the only way to get the proper orientation of the rifle AND have the bolt-handle visible is to reverse the rifle. These are the kind of things that goes into selling the audience on your movie at first glance. Marketing is hard, and sometimes historical accuracy has to suffer!
@xkissax1
7 ай бұрын
Actually, the Marine infantry wasnt wearing maxim belts, those are actually ammo belts meant for rifles, they date back to breech load rifle days and mostly were worn by Cossacks, my heritage is from Black sea Cossacks and i actually have my great grandfathers belt that he used in Russo-Japanese war along with his Berdan rifle and later with his Mosin in WW1, his dad actually had it before him and used it with a Martini-Henry (I could be wrong on the rifle). This is a tradition mainly continuing by Black See Fleet, which were transferred to Stalingrad, as most of them were Cossack descendants.
@borismuller86
7 ай бұрын
“I put snow in my mouth.” That line always cracked me up.
@FA_363
7 ай бұрын
That’s apparently what Simo Hayha (Finnish sniper) did, so I’m guessing it’s a reference to that.
@DawidKov
7 ай бұрын
@@FA_363 There are even more myths about Simo than there are depicted in Enemy at the Gates.
@Doubledeepfried
7 ай бұрын
Was skiing last week, and this line kept going to my mind 😂
@TheMusicftw1
29 күн бұрын
@@DawidKovsure
@mrkeogh
7 ай бұрын
The real Zaitsev looks a bit like Jesse Plemons after eating Matt Damon.
@CalamityCain
7 ай бұрын
Top comment, haha!
@KlipsenTube
7 ай бұрын
8:01 Irrespective of scenes that reveal specific dates, we know very specifically when the movie takes place, because the battle of Stalingrad lasted from 23 August 1942 to 2 February 1943 - i.e. months before the scope in question was introduced.
@TheCleansingx
7 ай бұрын
Still one of the great war movies from the 2000s
@Dusk3e
7 ай бұрын
i think rachel weisze has a polish Model 91/98/25 carbine basically an experimental mosin, rebuilt with some k98 type parts to make it run 8mm mauser
@stranger299a
7 ай бұрын
Come to think of it, Is there a movie that portrays sniping in a realistic way?
@CalamityCain
7 ай бұрын
I hear The Hurt Locker being thrown around a lot, when it comes to this question. I'm not really a knowledgeable gun guy, but the movie itself was fantastic and I really enjoyed the tension and build-up in said sniper scene. They utilize spotters, it's long range and they need to make lots of minute corrections in order to hit the "bad guy". I think it's a Barrett M82 variant versus some Dragunov SVD derivative. Again, I'm only a casual movie guy interested in the mechanics :)
@@CalamityCainThe one glaring problem with that scene is Hawkeye and the Falcon engaging the enemy from the same spot where the previous M82 operator (Voldemort) got killed.
@t.edwardmoore2735
7 ай бұрын
The US Army sniper in "Kelly's Heroes" uses a Mosin Nagant sniper rifle. Probably because all the WW2 Shermans and other gear were supplied by the Yugoslav Army
@Chris_the_Dingo
7 ай бұрын
I've been a military history buff since childhood, and worked in the museum field for over twenty years. I'm so grateful I can just enjoy history-based movies for the sake of a good story.
@lawrenceallen8096
7 ай бұрын
Just grateful that the armorer on the set of "Enemies At The Gate" was more competent than the one on the set of "Rust."
@ianray8823
7 ай бұрын
"He isn't dead because I haven't killed him yet" is one of the hardest lines in cinema in my opinion.
@dfgyuhdd
7 ай бұрын
When you feel like you studied pretty hard for the test but then you walk in the classroom and you have a substitute teacher who is Ian. FML
@noahwail2444
7 ай бұрын
I read somewhere, that the likes of major König often used regular hunting rifles and scopes for sniping. Does kind of make sence, using a weapon you are used to, and trust.
@SamuraiAkechi
7 ай бұрын
Mauser 98 was a super-common hunting rifle at the time, however most hunters had them with sport stocks (not all of them, some, especially those that were meant for mountain hunts, had full stocks, like the Westley Richards rifle of count Alfred Potocki), and they could come in different calibers, 8x57, 7x57 and 7x64 being among the most common.
@gordondelacroix253
7 ай бұрын
All of the "top scoring" German snipers of the war used military equipment, usually a Kar98k with a 4x scope. You were trained in the use of your rifle, a rifle which was also more sturdy than 90 percent of the hunting rifles of the time, so no need to bring a rifle that could fail on you. However, lower echelon (so not snipers) troops sometimes needed a rifle to "snipe" the enemy. It was therefore left to the field armors and officers to find means suited for this task, since kar98k ZF were of high demand. Early in the war they indeed used a very small amount of hunting commercial rifles. Afterwards using captured soviet equipment became the norm. Some top scorers made their first mark with a soviet telescopic rifle before sniper school. Something which was done however is building sniper rifle with commercial scope and mounts, but they were issued not purchased by individual snipers.
@kixigvak
7 ай бұрын
I spent three years covering the war in the former Yugoslavia as a news photographer. Snipers in that way used hunting rifles, many of which were very high quality Austrian or Italian rifles. The snipers themselves were often rural guys who hunted and were probably using their own deer rifles. The K98 was everywhere and not highly regarded. I shot them quite a few times and am not a fan. On the Serbian side there were snipers who used Dragunof sniper rifles. A friend of mine said "You go to the armorer and get ten Dragunofs. Take them to the range and test them at 300 meters. Of the ten one will be accurate. Return the other nine to the armorer." I met an American woman of Croatian extraction who had just delivered 12 Remington 700s in .308 to a paramilitary force in Bosnia. And in Mostar I met a guy who'd found a Winchester Mod 70 in 30-06 in a house in a rural neighborhood. The owner had apparently lived in Butte Montana because the rifle had a brass plate saying it was a gift from the Butte Lions Club to this Serbian guy. Another good movie featuring Stalingrad is "My Way," a Korean film about Koreans forced to fight for Japan who were taken prisoner first by the Russians and then by the Germans.
@jjj5413
6 ай бұрын
I remember when this came out. I asked if my Grandpa would take me to see it. I regret that nearly every day of my life. I was young, so maybe I didn't know any better, but I wish i hadn't subjected him to that. I knew he was a Korean vet, but I had no idea how that affected him. He would never say a word, but now I know. Listening to him in his sleep breaks my heart. I can't imagine what he's gone through or what he's seen. 😓
@thegabrielfrost
6 ай бұрын
Vasily Grigoryevich Zaitsev used a 7.62mm sniper rifle, model of 1891/30, which is a variant of the M91/30 Mosin rifle standard in the Soviet Army.
@stephencarterjr7580
7 ай бұрын
Great vid! Love the movie and your knowledge. Can’t wait for your next one.
@wraithcadmus
7 ай бұрын
I have this feeling the reticle was so you can cut between the characters and their scopes and keep straight who's POV you're seeing. The extra bars remind me of the sight Operation Flashpoint had on the M21, where they were meant to be used to get the right zoom for a standing or prone target, based on the ART scope (which would match up with the game's 1985 setting).
@supabass4003
7 ай бұрын
Jude Law doesn't really look like the real Zaitsev does he, lol.
@tsartomato
7 ай бұрын
nothing there looks like the real one the film is so yankee my tv bled coca cola
@PalleRasmussen
7 ай бұрын
@@tsartomatowe're all living in Amerika - Amerika, it's wunderbar.
@tsartomato
7 ай бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen nach afrika kommt santa claus und vor paeris steht micky maus
@PalleRasmussen
7 ай бұрын
@@tsartomato I love to see American reactors react to that song 😆😂
@FP194
7 ай бұрын
@@tsartomato Did you lick the screen ?
@laramiefrank479
Ай бұрын
To be fair, even the history channel at the time always showed the PU sniper instead of the earlier model when comparing them to German sniper rifles
@Sgt_SealCluber
7 ай бұрын
WWI and WWII setting and hearing "Tanya" all I can think of is "Tanya the Evil". Speaking of that, there is a lot of accurate weaponry in that anime and it has an interesting blend of WWI and WWII.
@DawidKov
7 ай бұрын
Tanya is just short for Tatyana, and is a fairly common name. Though in the context of WWII, my first thought would be Tanya Savicheva.
@billylyman2950
7 ай бұрын
With the belt loaded with a gap in between each cartridge you couldn't even run it by cycling the action because the belt feeding system works by pushing on the next cartridge. You would have manually pull the belt from the other side
@stremmify
7 ай бұрын
I am pretty sure these are just used as bandoliers for Mosin ammo - full belt too heavy, gap helps with tacticool reload speed
@biffwellington1782
7 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing @@stremmify
@barbarossarotbart
7 ай бұрын
Interresting fact: Major König, the German sniper and main antagonist of the movie, did really exist, but he was never in Stalingrad and survived the war. His alleged death in Stalingrad was pure Soviet propaganda.
@jaym8027
7 ай бұрын
Every Soviet statistic from the Second World War is pure propaganda. Everything from aerial kills to sniper kills. One can't take any of these numbers at face value.
@PalleRasmussen
7 ай бұрын
There were no German sniper school until after The Battle of Stalingrad. There were also no SS at all as he claims to have shot a Captain of.
@barbarossarotbart
7 ай бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen But a sniper instructor named König did exist and he survived the war.
@PalleRasmussen
7 ай бұрын
@@barbarossarotbart as a historian, I would like to see the actual sources for that.
@barbarossarotbart
7 ай бұрын
@@PalleRasmussen His grandson told me that at the time the movie came out.
@alexkarman4679
7 ай бұрын
The real problem with the film is that every single sniper film has to end with the Carlos Hathcock "shot the other sniper through his own scope tube" scenario, just like every Star Trek battle has to end with the "turn off the lights on half the ship and drift in space" scenario and every submarine battle has to end with the "eject trash from the torpedo tubes" scenario.
@julianmhall
4 ай бұрын
Wikipedia says Zaitsev was born March 1915, so in 1920-29 he'd have been 5-14. That seems to right for the clip of him about five years old.
@fromthebackseat4865
6 ай бұрын
Enemy of the Gates is one of the worst, most propagandist films of all time that spawned a whole list of nonsensical factoids that western “history buffs” spout uncritically.
@nicksGLI
7 ай бұрын
That is not Zaitsev's rifle, it is OUR glorious rifle that saved Stalingrad, comrade
@kristjanjonsson7723
7 ай бұрын
I have a m91/30 that was made in Tula factory 1943. It shoots like a charm. I love bringing it to the range
@docjay9640
7 ай бұрын
The movie is allways wrong, only that the soviet win is right. 😂
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
7 ай бұрын
On the Finnish Mosin carried by the Marine - I know of no Russians alive enough to capture Finnish weapons in the Winter War ...
@bezahltersystemtroll5055
7 ай бұрын
they won the Winter War, of course there were some guys in the last phase who could capture weapons.
@TorquilBletchleySmythe
7 ай бұрын
@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 you are obviously unfamiar with the Finnish sense of humour.
@seancrooker6771
7 ай бұрын
I remind you that this is still the most accurate large budget english film ever made about the eastern front.
@torarildhenriksen371
4 ай бұрын
The real wonder sniper who deserves a movie is Simo Häyhä, he was active between nov 39 to march 40 and had 542 confirmed kills, he didnt even use a scope on his rifle.
@ConvetionalHeretic
7 ай бұрын
Maybe the marines used excess maxim belts as improvised single round bandoleers… (more likely it just looked cool for the camera.)
@Drownedinblood
7 ай бұрын
Easy answer, Vasily is a time traveler, it's how he got soo good as a sniper, he already knew where to take the shots.
@ReboyGTR
7 ай бұрын
*Can you do a similar video on the Kalashnikov movie? The one from 2020.*
@grasstreefarmer
7 ай бұрын
They did pretty well for the day. Speaking of firearms in movies and TV, lately I have been seeing an awful lot of flat top AR rifles with no sights at all.
@Gottaculat
7 ай бұрын
The front sight on that one rifle reminds me a lot of the front sight of my Enfield No.4 Mk1* that I've been restoring. I went with the one that has a screw-adjustable front sight vs the other kind where you basically need a workbench to adjust it, but both have those big curved wing sight guards.
@miket2120
7 ай бұрын
One aspect of movies that's sometimes overlooked in detailed prop accuracy narratives: establishing the underdog good guy vs the overwhelming bad guy. The Mosin PU looks inferior to the German rifle/scope combo. The PU is a simple mount, very basic and very small scope and simple reticle, something that's barely enough to do half the job. The German rifle has a scope that looks the business and identifies as fully capable and deadly weapon: big objective lens, larger mount, obvious adjustment knobs and a fancier-read-sophisticated and effective reticle. The idea is plant in the audience's mind that the Soviets were up against a technologically superior enemy and thus make you feel more for the Soviets lead by Team Law.
@barefoofDr
7 ай бұрын
Ian, You have spoiled one of my favorite movies.
@diamond66ist
7 ай бұрын
I live in Australia and do not have a firearms licence but i think i should get the Rifle as im good at stuff !
@Alkaline7.62
7 ай бұрын
I have a 91/30 pre-war all numbers matching with tula markings and it is a carbine. Absolutely love it.
@SteveFugere-q6p
7 ай бұрын
I'Ve seen the movie and I've read the book. The situation with the snipers in Stalingrad took up about a paragraph and a half.
@handsomedevil7072
6 ай бұрын
If the best thing in a war movie is a banging scene, there must be something wrong
@jnrivers
3 ай бұрын
What a great movie. It really stood out as niche gem.
@GeneralJackRipper
6 ай бұрын
I think the saddest part of this movie is that the book 'Enemy at the Gates' is actually a very good read on the history of the battle of Stalingrad, but in typical Hollywood fashion they took three paragraphs from one and a half pages and expanded them out of all proportion to tell a completely false narrative.
@marekstanek112
6 ай бұрын
Those MG belts loaded with every other cart could actually make sense if those marines used them as ammo bandoliers for their own rifles, as it's easier to pull a cart from the belt if only every other cart is in the belt.
@Za7a7aZ
7 ай бұрын
I think it is such a shame that the producers went for adding rifles which they considered great for the movie and choose not to make it authentic as possible...which was probably the most easiest and cheaper option.
@frankwalker3362
7 ай бұрын
14:35 could be just using a Maxim belt to haul catriges around. Kinda as an alternative for ammo pouches. Filling every second catrige pocket distributes the weight better.
@tbert9739
7 ай бұрын
i interpreted the Maxim belt as them using them as bandoliers
@jeromethiel4323
7 ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVE "enemy at the gates." But i never expected historical accuracy. But the cat and mouse between the snipers just hits all the sweet spots for me. Watch that movie at least once a year.
@wusb8
7 ай бұрын
when he replaces himself with the dead guy... i thought it was for sure over right there.
@jeromethiel4323
7 ай бұрын
@@wusb8 Other than the unnecessary romance sub plot, it was an excellent movie. ^-^ And it was close enough realism wise for me to enjoy without being knocked out of the movie watching experience.
@wusb8
7 ай бұрын
@@jeromethiel4323 the little romance was kinda a catalyst to the morbid reality of Stalingrad I enjoyed that.
@LUR1FAX
7 ай бұрын
That's how I try to approach "historical" war movies as well. I'll watch the movie to get interested in the real story, and then read the books.
@AtlasGaming4k
7 ай бұрын
One other detail missed was that Ed Harris wasn’t even born at the time of the film. Can’t believe they expect the audience to not care they had genetics in the movie that could not have existed at the time.
@wasntmeXYZ
7 ай бұрын
If you’re just now looking to stockpile ammunition you’re behind the power curve.
@cabobs2000
7 ай бұрын
Appreciate Ian explaining why the film makers might have made certain choices. The redical thing makes perfect sense. It's food for them to be different to make it easier to follow
@javiermartinezjr8849
7 ай бұрын
The OG is back,if you were here via Ian shooting a hotchkiss and various firearms with a lil song montage, your certified.
@DaMainDude
7 ай бұрын
My grandfather (German) was sent into battle on the eastern front without any (or not very much) ammunition -> they were told to "find it on the battlefield"
@coldwaterhunter8176
7 ай бұрын
Supposedly, Allerberger found a Mosin sniper rifle on the battlefield and that's what he used for the first half of his war career (according to the book anyway). But at this point I'm not sure he even existed. His Wiki entry was purged years ago and most Google searches for German snipers only bring up people like Hetzenauer and Pein.
@spacetruckin6555
7 ай бұрын
In Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade, Harrison Ford and Sean Connery's characters are actually riding in a 1988 Dnepr MT-11 made in Ukraine. In the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Shia Lebeouf's character is actually riding a 2006 Harley Davidson Softail Springer Classic.
@garyross7129
7 ай бұрын
Hello Ian. Thank for all the great work. I've just one observation about your comment on the Soviet Marine's crossed ammo belts being loaded incorrectly. Ignoring that he probably should have been carrying 5rnd clips, and that he may be carrying extra ammo belts for a machine gun that I didn't see on the boat; loading an ammo belt in alternate loops will keep it balanced while wearing it. If you're using the belt to carry ammo for your rifle (as opposed to a machine gun) putting all your available ammo in one location in a belt will cause it to constantly want to slip & shift to the lowest point possible depending on what position your body is in at how your body is positioned. Just trying to play the devil's advocate. Thank you.
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