Cell network engineer here - towers don't interfere with each other they interact with each other
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
What are your qualifications to answer this question?
@tarrker
3 ай бұрын
@@robertchiarizia9463 it's literally the first thing they said.
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
@@tarrker cell network engineer is a fancy word like custodial engineer. I am a mechanic, a real mechanic. Some trades call themselves mechanics like some trades call themselves ‘engineers’. There’s a lot of wiggle room in there for what that really means…LITERALLY
@TheEjsc
3 ай бұрын
Well I have a question for you how come it feels like the speed was better 15 years ago comparing the technology we shouldn’t have any speed issues of broken signals
@Sig_P229
3 ай бұрын
@@robertchiarizia9463my friend called himself a chemical specialist and sanitation engineer in the navy. I was like wow. What does that do? He said I scrub toilets and bathrooms. I was the janitor. lol
@dannycox4909
2 ай бұрын
As a professional pilot of 40 years I have never been aggravated by a cell phone. Lol
@XBudderkingX
2 ай бұрын
@kimohilldale8400 yeah you'll get in a lot of trouble, they may even shoot on site
@rapoholicz4195
2 ай бұрын
Why is it a rule to put the phone on airplane mode? What do cellphones interfere with?
@madyottoyotto3055
2 ай бұрын
@@rapoholicz4195because lots of phones bouncing from tower to tower messes with the networks It's there for the people on the grounds sake Cell towers do not point down They do not interfere with each other They actually overlap obviously
@Crazt
2 ай бұрын
@@madyottoyotto3055, so this whole video is bullshit 😂?
@ABQSentinel
2 ай бұрын
And you don't lose a cell signal as soon as you get "above the tower." I've been flying at 1500' - 2000' above the ground and still had cell service
@whozyourdaddy
2 ай бұрын
This guy should be a politician. He sounds like he knows things without actually knowing things.
@GamingTimeStation
2 ай бұрын
💯 👏 😂
@aaroneckardt5514
2 ай бұрын
Nothing he says is factually or technically wrong. Maybe it is in its most basic simplest form. But he is correct. Which leads me to believe he is more knowledgeable on these subjects than you are since you did not understand that he is correct.
@jermangarc
2 ай бұрын
Exactly, the moment I heard him say the cell towers point signal down and not up, he is dead wrong. Just do basic search on how cell tech works and you'll find out he's wrong on a few points. Do your own research people. Misinformation at it's best for easy clicks and I too was baited.
@JimsEquipmentShed
2 ай бұрын
@@aaroneckardt5514cell phone towers point down? You think that’s a fact?
@JimsEquipmentShed
2 ай бұрын
@@jermangarcHow about it, I’ve made calls in flight before, and the towers worked fine for me….. The “Aggravating the pilot” thing is BS as well. If yet to hear about one thing they actually interfere with while flying.
@JamaicanDwaine
2 ай бұрын
We need to start filing lawsuits against people like these.
@mjt1517
2 ай бұрын
Why though? You’re free to stand at a podium and repeat inaccurate info or even lie freely. Unless you’re advertising, it’s protected speech.
@thafranchise
2 ай бұрын
Well that will be every president
@JamaicanDwaine
2 ай бұрын
@@thafranchise lol
@GuacamoleyNacho
2 ай бұрын
Just report this video to KZitem, get it removed!
@ParisLuHv
2 ай бұрын
@@mjt1517 so you just wanna be lied to?
@Patrick-zr8tv
3 ай бұрын
Bro studied yapology and got a PhD
@DoyleShadduck
3 ай бұрын
And he’s got his Masters in Douchebaggery . 😝
@henryhenderson7051
3 ай бұрын
BS in BS
@brandondegraaf
3 ай бұрын
No joke, this video was brought to you by the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. If you do the crime, this guy lets you do the time.
@BobBarker-co6et
3 ай бұрын
excuse me? He is a certified graduate of Trump University. Shame on you for denigrating this man's expertise
@glhfggwp6232
2 ай бұрын
I noticed my cellphone service doesn’t work when I’m in an elevator.
@louskunt9798
3 ай бұрын
I’m a commercial pilot and I can assure everyone that we use our cell phones in the cockpit every single day. You don’t lose reception as soon as you get above the towers. That’s just ridiculous. I don’t trust a word this man says.
@Fs3i
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, some of the reason you don’t have signal is that you’re 37k feet up (that’s 11km/7 miles), and you’re going 300mph/500km/h). This means you’d be constantly changing cell towers, and you never keep the same distance to them, so you get stuff like the doppler effect. In addition, in most commercial planes you’re in an aluminium tube, which attenuates the signal. And almost nothing in an airplane cares about any of the frequencies of a (working) phone. The only two things that collide is the radio altimeter iirc, and that is solved by simply not putting cell towers using those frequencies under the approach path. But the “not firing up” bit is weird
@Fs3i
3 ай бұрын
Also, cell towers don’t interfere with each other. They can be on different spectrums. If they would interfere with each other like described, you could not have a gapless networks. Also, two adjacent towers can have different ranges. Ugh this video is silly
@jamesdeclan7538
3 ай бұрын
Yah last time I checked, they said airplane mode is a hoax. I know pilots that have airdroped to their flight attendants
@Kzaks
3 ай бұрын
Ya this video is like a 9/11 truther is trying to "educate" the shepeople lol
@Kzaks
3 ай бұрын
@jamesdeclan7538 my understanding is that airplane mode exists so that the phones of people flying in planes won't swamp all the cell towers that the phone can handshake with as they fly past the towers in range, and would cause cell towers to crash, like a denial of service attack 😂
@karmahunden
2 ай бұрын
Cell phone tower scientist here - frequencies cannot bounce between buildings, they actually suck my balls.
@TheDgil10
25 күн бұрын
😭😭😭
@Darkstepcastle
22 күн бұрын
Underrated comment
@dariusanderton3760
21 күн бұрын
that's why there's so many cell towers in New York.
@badumtss10
2 ай бұрын
Telecom engineer here, cell towers interact with each other and not interfere. If what he said was true, you'd be in a cell dead zone most of the time. Also, if you're in a flight which is flying at a relatively lower altitude, you would still be able to see some reception on your mobile.
@sweeflyboy
2 ай бұрын
Exactly lol. I've climbed mountains twice the altitude of the nearest cell tower - signal was good enough to hold a video call
@billybobjoe444
3 ай бұрын
Im a Cell tower inspector. Antennas don't point down. They're plumb at 90⁰ and radiate signal in a cone.
@RideGasGas
3 ай бұрын
Depends on the band. This may be true for older antennas on the lowest of the bands, but even in those cases they typically use a collinear antenna to squish the power toward the horizon. In the newer bands most cellular base station antennas do point downwards electrically. The body of the antenna housing may be plumb at 90° but the antenna elements inside are designed to radiate the power at or below the horizon. For example, the new millimeter wave 5G antennas are supposed to be mechanically down tilted by 10° and may not point electrically higher than 6° below the horizon.
@AutumnElaine
2 ай бұрын
Does that mean that they're less efficient *directly* under them, where the cone is at its narrowest?
@williamhesprich9040
2 ай бұрын
Some of us don't care about cell phone service while flying. I turn mine off before I take off and only turn it on after my final destination.
@AutumnElaine
2 ай бұрын
@@williamhesprich9040 For me: Lovely break from any obligations to keep up with all of that expected rapid communication .
@thomasdaley2929
2 ай бұрын
Each tower will have multiple companies on it, I believe it is Federal law that you can't have your own tower and exclude the competition. My neighbor is fighting Verizon tower installation as a non-lawyer and has held them off for over 5 yrs now. You get the inside scoop on this stuff.
@yeetin_yeti69
3 ай бұрын
“1 out of 5 things I said are true”
@M1America
3 ай бұрын
He hit the bases, but didn't really read into them fully to explain them properly. Reuse patterns, erlang distributions, quality of service, queuing theory. Things have is eluding to. Also he is just splattering words with no purpose.
@PhantomMs1
3 ай бұрын
He's using words to intimidate uneducated in the subject, but he's not wrong...
@yeetin_yeti69
3 ай бұрын
@@M1America “1 of 5 things I said almost make sense”
@ZachareSylvestre
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, let me explain for those who don't know why the commenter said the speaker was wrong: 1. "Cell phone towers are aimed down." No, they are aimed out. There's no real aim to them, as the radio waves tend to spread out in all directions, including up. 2. "You can't use your phone in the air because they are aimed down." No, you can't use a cell phone tower because you're moving too fast. Your phone's radio waves are hitting a tower, and then the next second they are hitting another receiver the tower wasn't expecting, and then the next second you're hitting another tower entirely. Cell phone signal requires a little bit of time to "handshake" when you get in range of another tower. 3. "Cell towers interfere with each other." Mostly false. In fact, your phone may be connecting with multiple towers in urban areas. 4."T-Mobile has 12 mile range, and Verizon and At&t is 18 mile range." Provider has nothing to do with range. T-Mobile believes in 5g so much they are constantly deploying it. However, 5g has a shorter range because it's such a shorter wave length, and that causes the energy to dissipate easier in air. That's the disadvantage of 5g: Its faster and has more bandwidth (because the shorter frequencies == more data), but it has a shorter range. Dude was playing 4 lies and a truth. Jeebus
@nate6045
3 ай бұрын
@ZachareSylvestre To expand on what you've said, I come from a family of electricians and when I first started working for my dad, a big chunk of our income was wiring cell sites for 4G. They all use the same towers. The thing is they own different frequencies. That determines speed and distance. They often lease the use of these towers from places like churches, hospitals, colleges, fire stations, etc. Yes, hospitals, the places that used to tell you to turn off your cellphone because it would "interfere with the equipment." He also says towers are determined by subscriber density. This is almost true. It depends on if they can get a permit to put a tower in the area. For example there's two major dead zones in my area despite that it's pretty populated. That's because the locals keep blocking the construction of a new tower.
@Jon651
2 ай бұрын
I once had a pilot tell me it wasn't any one phone on a plane that causes a problem - it's 400+ phones and laptops and tablets and smartwatches, etc. all stuffed into a long metal tube that causes the problems!
@Kandralla
2 ай бұрын
None of it causes problems for the plane. There's a reason it's an FCC restriction and not an FAA restriction in the US. The phone of the guy standing at the fence line near the end of the runway taking pictures is a bigger threat to the airplane than any of the phones onboard. There is/was some overlap between mobile frequencies and aircraft radar altimeters (and even that's not a very realistic threat).
@FalseMem0ries
Ай бұрын
He lied to you
@JanPeterson
15 күн бұрын
The actual problem is that a phone on a plane at 37000 ft can "see" hundreds of towers, all of which must argue with each other over which one is going to carry the signal.
@FalseMem0ries
15 күн бұрын
@@JanPeterson that's not even remotely true.
@bauchwegmaenner
2 ай бұрын
Cell Tower Rocket Scientist here, Cell towers are just decoration and we all use space satellites.
@0tt0z
Ай бұрын
Hi, fellow Tower Rocket Scientist!
@bauchwegmaenner
Ай бұрын
@@0tt0z Hey, are you the 0tt0z from the space force?
@duffmann2021
21 күн бұрын
@@0tt0zbirds aren't real
@volodumurkalunyak4651
5 күн бұрын
Space satelites are just decoration, and we really use fiber optic cables.
@taWay21
3 ай бұрын
Lmao my guy majored in "Trust me Bro" 😂
@randallmcgrath9345
2 ай бұрын
He probably thinks Engineering degrees are scams too or something. I am starting to hear that nowadays.
@SebastianBernaldotCom
2 ай бұрын
That doesn’t make sense
@Scentsational-Vdo
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Drivetonotcrash
9 күн бұрын
Aight 😑
@MIN0RITY-REP0RT
3 ай бұрын
Having been employed by AT&T (and Lucent Technologies ) to include implementation of CDMA and 4G in remote and populated areas, I can assure you this person knows very little about cell towers and radio transmission. His inaccuracies are enumerated in others' comments herein so I don't need to reiterate.
@iaminvisiblenow
2 ай бұрын
Yes, but he delivers the nonsense with such confidence and authority. 😅
@flyinbryanfpv
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Cell reception is amazing above 2k ft lol
@vk274
2 ай бұрын
@rodknock Ignorant people are most confident. 😢
@RafaelMoura-m
2 ай бұрын
Sure thing, frequencies are planned to NOT INTERFERE with other "towers".
@Wise_Mannn
2 ай бұрын
You are lying sir. I am an engineer and he is being truthful and factual
@forthebirds4
21 күн бұрын
This video is living proof of the concept of "Want to know the right answers to something? Don't ask for it, just spread a bunch of blatant bs confidently in a public forum, and people will line up to waste their time correcting you!" But thanks guys, I learned a lot reading these comments.
@familyfirst3983
2 ай бұрын
But when we pay for wifi on airplane all of a sudden cell towers point up 🤣
@misterdeedeedee
13 күн бұрын
it's satellite based, has to be otherwise how would would it work during transoceanic flights
@WoodyLing2
13 күн бұрын
It's both, that's why free plane WiFi is more common on domestic flights that travel over cell towers. But over the oceans yes they go to satellites, which is also why it's less reliable over the ocean@@misterdeedeedee
@misterdeedeedee
12 күн бұрын
@@WoodyLing2 how do you figure they use ground based cell service if you lose signal above ~2k feet and planes cruise at 30-40k feet?
@WoodyLing2
10 күн бұрын
@@misterdeedeedee Planes are bigger than phones and have much bigger antennas which can pick up signals more reliably, whereas your phone has a small antenna and isn't designed to capture signal while traveling 500+mph. Even then most plane WiFi still isn't very good, which is why most in-flight WiFi isn't string enough to stream Netflix for example. Only recently they've been increasing the ability to do things like that
@misterdeedeedee
9 күн бұрын
@@WoodyLing2 passenger planes save every pound possible for efficiency and payload, I don't think they would waste the effort (and cost and maintainence) to put in gigantic 4G antennas and amplifiers and all that just to hopefully pick up a cell tower more than 6 MILES in the air when instead they can exclusively use their contracted satellite service at a (deep discounted rate) while being far more reliable and simpler than needing hardware to deal with constantly switching cabin traffic between cellular and satellite as signal goes in and out.
@raza2594
2 ай бұрын
Wow, this guy is living proof that confident idiots work better than smart but silent ones.
@cassiosiquara
12 күн бұрын
confident idiots > smart idiots XD
@the74impala
3 ай бұрын
I was the only person on a 45 minute flight one time. They told me I could keep my phone and not worry about airplane mode. I had excellent cell signal at 25k feet plus altitude.
@annapatton4544
3 ай бұрын
I've flown with Lufthansa a few times, and they say passengers don't have to turn their phones off nor turn on the airplane mode. We had reception the whole flight, even when flew over the ocean. And they had free wifi.
@krisrap3828
3 ай бұрын
That is BS. I travel weekly on planes. I've tested this many times. One loses cell service 5 minutes after take off and regains it 5 minutes before landing. The only way to make calls is through the wifi.
@Hillary4SupremeRuler
2 ай бұрын
That's probably from ur phone automatically switching to voice over WiFi
@the74impala
2 ай бұрын
@@Hillary4SupremeRuler Nope. Had full 4g bars at the time. No wifi. Had to pay for wifi on that flight.
@rubyoro0
2 ай бұрын
I’ve always kept my phone.
@HappyEddyMcGuire
2 ай бұрын
This is why the 911 airplane cell phone calls were made from the ground.
@rubyoro0
2 ай бұрын
So all pilots saying this is not true. How embarrassing.
@PappyP
2 ай бұрын
Sattelite phones
@Theweouthereforrealclub-
2 ай бұрын
The cellphones fell out of the plane and collapsed tower 7
@shinvergil
2 ай бұрын
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- lol, you won the Internet for this week.
@BlindfoldSniper
2 ай бұрын
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- Wait... It took 8 hours to drop 10,000 feet? The kinetic Inertia must have been incredible. No wonder it crumbled. I guess mostly due to fear from having to wait around all day for this random asteroid.
@falloutboy691
25 күн бұрын
Hi, sentient cellphone here. This man does not understand my kin.
@sammy5576
3 ай бұрын
Actually the neighbouring towers DON'T interfere with eachother because they use different frequencys, this is literally the point of a cell network. Frequencys are reused but not next to eachother
@bobbowie5334
3 ай бұрын
Frequencies are passé. It's all _spread spectrum_ now.
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
@@bobbowie5334 still ripples of ones and zeroes in a pond bouncing off one another. Whether the wave period is short medium or long, they still are at different angles to one another. Like when you hear a blender on a speaker.
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
Ripples emanate from a still point, when the ripples wave train outwards in concentric circles, they will inevitably cross cancel and dissipate one another simply as a phase modulation. Just like waves on the ocean. Everything attenuates. Microwaves still interfere with one another slightly even though it’s a tiny fast oscillation that isn’t as easily phased.
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
@@bobbowie5334 DSSS or DHSS?
@mindseyeproductions8798
3 ай бұрын
Damn If this video isn’t full of lies, cell towers can only support so many users so at large events like the Super Bowl they will put mini cell towers to be able to handle all of the cell phones inside the stadium.
@zverbrycke
3 ай бұрын
According to my dad,who was a 777 pilot,this is all bullshit.He said they once brought 2 cell phones,a laptop,and an ipad into the cockpit mid flight laid them on the instrument panels and had each device downloading stuff simultaneously and he didn’t notice the slight bit of interference with any system on board.
@thomashabetsse
3 ай бұрын
Did he try receiving a GSM call? Because that's what we kids in the 90s could hear on nearby speakers. 3G-5G? Yeah, they're not TDMA, so much less likely to do anything at all.
@zverbrycke
2 ай бұрын
@@thomashabetsse i think they just had each device download or stream a movie.
@thomashabetsse
2 ай бұрын
@@zverbrycke yeah that was never a thing with GSM/GPRS, so it's not a cause to call it bullshit. GSM is still a fallback, today. They're turning down the 2G networks, so within a few years it should not be possible to fall back.
@zverbrycke
2 ай бұрын
@@thomashabetsse fair enough,you seem to know more about it than me.I just wanted to relay what i was told...
@calimann83
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, these days it’s not a big deal. Back in the day, say up to the early 2000s, it could be. I do remember a story from a pilot friend back in the late 90s. He used to fly this rich dude back from Vegas every week on a charter jet. Every time at the same spot the autopilot would suddenly go crazy and they would have to take control. Eventually they learned the guy was calling his wife at the same time from a cell phone and that was causing the issue. Things have changed since then though and I don’t think that would happen these days.
@kostaftp
3 күн бұрын
Airplane pilot: "Sir, I have been aggravated and my honor has been tarnished. I summon you to a duel at dawn." Smartphone: "So be it."
4 күн бұрын
The beautiful art of speaking with confidence about things you know nothing about. Great job.
@jonathanweintraub
3 ай бұрын
I came here to correct something and apparently there’s a lot more. The speed of the plane and having to reconnect to new cell towers is a problem for the carrier, not the pilots.
@markkennard861
2 ай бұрын
Finally a logical explanation.. thankyou. This has always something I have wanted to know.
@andrewtr001
2 ай бұрын
I wonder though how much extra stress does this put on the carrier? Presumably the problem would just be thst by the time the handshake finishes, you're out of range and it's time for a new handshake, but with as much bandwidth as the network has, it seems like thst would be a drop in the bucket for the carrier side..... wouldnt that be more just a headache for the customer who has 5 bars but shit reception somehow?
@chrisn.6477
3 ай бұрын
Most of this information is false.
@kcbrandon4386
3 ай бұрын
When you watched a 10 minute KZitem video 2 years ago and try to explain the information to someone like your an expert in it
@BeeRich33
3 ай бұрын
Well, no. I’m a ham for over 30 years.
@zeno5689
3 ай бұрын
How did food get in the conversation
@KTK_Rockstar
3 ай бұрын
He literally said tmobile and sprint have different ranges when they literally use the same tmobile network lmfao
@louskunt9798
3 ай бұрын
I’m a commercial pilot and I can assure everyone that we use our cell phones in the cockpit every single day. You don’t lose reception as soon as you get above the towers. That’s just ridiculous. I don’t trust a word this man says.
@markmacmillan6090
2 ай бұрын
"How much area does the cell tower cover? Alot" has Monty Python Life of Brian energy
@Jo3M
Күн бұрын
When he said "how much area does a cell tower cover" it went hard
@BrianHorton1
3 ай бұрын
You lost me at “all you’re doing is aggravating the pilot.”
@tenkkutn
2 ай бұрын
Right! No passenger wants a pilot tracking cell phone usage when they should be focused on flying the GD plane... this guy talking a fricken tool
@marcusrichardson1460
2 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@elgringoec
2 ай бұрын
As if the pilot could somehow know 😂
@pegasus5287
2 ай бұрын
If the phone isn't working up there, how is it annoying the pilot?
@stephenrowley4171
3 ай бұрын
Pilot wont even notice, phones dont affect modern avionics
@EnvyTheRealest
3 ай бұрын
It never did.
@thomashabetsse
3 ай бұрын
@@EnvyTheRealest GSM probably induced the same studdering in the pilot's headphone cables that it induced in every other audio cable in the world, because it's TDMA.
@SEOdev
3 ай бұрын
@@thomashabetsseUnless they have the cables for the intercom through your pockets, your phone is not interacting with that signal.
@thomashabetsse
3 ай бұрын
@@SEOdev likely true. They were overly cautious. Nowadays the best reasons to turn on airplane mode is to save your battery, and not reach a bunch of towers at once, lowering capacity. Yes, like the guy says, they point down. But like he also says: multipath. And "point down" doesn't mean AT ALL what this guy implies. But also: GSM reached waaaay further than same pocket. You could hear on stereos in the same room when you were about to receive a call.
@hypotheticlz
3 ай бұрын
@@thomashabetsseboop be doop boop be doop boop be doop.
@mgd9151
Ай бұрын
Having worked nowhere near a tower, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, I would absolutely not let him hook up my cable.😂
@otistheshoemaker
18 күн бұрын
Cell service always returns for me when circling high above the city well before landing
@joshrandall3632
3 ай бұрын
Plot twist; all the cows in my part of the Midwest are on T-Mobile. At least the ones at the Dollar General anyway.
@Ranewolf
2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rubyoro0
2 ай бұрын
I don’t get it. Must be a regional joke.
@rubyoro0
2 ай бұрын
Wait! Are you calling women cows?
@joshrandall3632
2 ай бұрын
@@rubyoro0 Nope, just the ones at DG.😂
@johnlongsilver2730
2 ай бұрын
T-Mooobile
@drabberfrog
3 ай бұрын
Pretty much everything this guy said is wrong, you can get cell service above a few hundred feet and all the majority cell carriers use the same technology and often several providers use the same cell towers because it would be a huge waste of money to build 1 tower for Verizon, 1 for at&t, and 1 for T-Mobile.
@thomasdaley2929
2 ай бұрын
Its Federal law!
@matthewxramirez
2 ай бұрын
@@thomasdaley2929absolutely not true. There’s no law requiring cell companies to collocate on towers. Local jurisdictions in metro areas and suburbs usually prefer this though, to limit the amount of towers visible to the community. Also, it’s usually cheaper for a carrier to build its own tower and have a lease with the property owner rather than pay rent to a competitor or tower company.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
Ай бұрын
Cell tower antennas only point down in urban areas. In rural areas they usually point straight out, maybe a 2° tilt at most.
@marc-andreservant201
Ай бұрын
I cheaped out on my Canadian phone plan: I took the Quebec-only option and later added a temporary $10 add-on to use my plan in the US. The problems is that SIM cards are programmed with a list of providers in order of priority: First Fizz/Videotron, then any Canadian competitor, then and only then international roaming. Guess what happened on our road trip in Niagara Falls and Detroit? As soon as we were close enough to the river, even on the US side, my phone went dead as it connected to a Canadian cell tower on the other side and that tower responded "this customer didn't pay to use our services". Even when sitting 10ft next to a T-Mobile antenna.
@geneard639
3 ай бұрын
oh god. No, no, no. Cell tower antennas are like almost all antennas, their reception and transmission propagates in a < omni direction best described as a fan shaped wedge. The reasons why you drop signal is because your aircraft is out of range (its only a few miles, and above 25,000 feet you are lucky to get more than bar or two), you also have to add in ionized clouds, air, skin of the aircraft. I could go on, but, damn....
@Mavi222
3 ай бұрын
Exactly. "They point down" lmao
@TrekzoneMedia
3 ай бұрын
they could be directional, and some probably are - depending on what area the carrier is trying to fill.
@satsuke
3 ай бұрын
Eh, no. Cellular base station antenna are highly directional. Usually 3 offset 120 degrees from each other on rural macro sites and highly variable in more densely populated areas
@Just-Steve
3 ай бұрын
@satsuke they don't point down, toward the ground.
@satsuke
3 ай бұрын
@Just-Steve no one said they did, although there is a downtilt setting on the panels themselves. I was replying to the claim that all antenna are omnidirectional when they are in fact very directional, to being near line of sight. And yeah, any RF energy going towards the sky is functionally wasted. (In an airplane, the tower to you isn't much of an issue, it's the return path with your 1/8th of a watt cell phone transmitter. It also might be noted that the distance numbers in the video are obsolete .. everybody is on LTE, which functionally can go 6 miles between towers unless you get into special use cases. E.g. Verizon turned off CDMA, Sprint is dead and buried (and I dug the hole and filled it).
@troyerlad4746
3 ай бұрын
For a second there I swear he was spitting bars
@chimpout
3 ай бұрын
Me too but I was high on reefer watching this
@Kzaks
3 ай бұрын
I believe the harmonizing and rimes are some sort of effect of editing down to smaller segments a larger lecture, who knows maybe they used some sort of "auto-tune" to clean up ruff audio edits
@jeffreystewart9809
3 ай бұрын
Sprint's bars maybe. 😂
@derkevevin
2 ай бұрын
🎵 *How much AREA does cell tower cover.* 🎵
@WhatsUpLand
2 ай бұрын
As a pilot, I often call people when I'm aloft and getting near the airport to let them know I'll be there soon.
@INI_StxrK
2 ай бұрын
this guy dropped a sick beat with his words and thought we wouldn't notice 💀
@tonysalvo
3 ай бұрын
Sooo basically our cell service is about as good as a quality set of walkie-talkies
@athunasos1649
3 ай бұрын
Bro's one of the top yappologists out there!🗣️📣📣🔥🔥🔥
@caustichonu
9 күн бұрын
Cell antennas don't point down, they point horizontally. Signal still goes up but at a much lower intensity than if you were in line of sight. This is why you can get signal while in a flight at about 1000ft or up on a mountain.
@Throwskoach
2 ай бұрын
My youngest left a cell phone on during a flight; a tower picked her up over Mississippi. She was sharing her location with me. It was funny when I asked her about her stay.
@Just-Steve
3 ай бұрын
Cell towers are line of sight, so in the mid-west you have unlimited line of sight only restricted by the curvature of the earth. That's why there are less towers.
@lukeh990
3 ай бұрын
Line of sight still helps but true line of sight would be something like a microwave relay. If the placement is off or something blocks the way the signal goes exponentially down. Compared to microwaves, LTE and 5G signals travel in all directions and can pass through most things. Just in less dense areas there are less things to block the signal and lower number of cell tower users means the antenna power can be kicked up a notch without interference or risking signal crowding.
@BeeRich33
3 ай бұрын
All of which are
@NotMe-ej9yz
3 ай бұрын
Inb4 the flat earthers get here
@venivinivinci
3 ай бұрын
Not just line of sight but it's line of sight vs power output
@speed_demon420
3 ай бұрын
So about 5 miles due to curvature 😂
@ChuckV
3 ай бұрын
As a person who regularly flies on small airplanes into the remote bush. You gotta go really high to lose cell reception. You can hear a tick or a click in the headset when people send or receive text messages. The problem is when 400 people are sending messages or would be annoying. I always assumed commercial aviation would have a way to filter that noise out.
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
We don’t. A&P Mechanic here 👋🏻
@AuroraGw2
3 ай бұрын
In the bush? What are you flying cocaine
@robertchiarizia9463
3 ай бұрын
@@AuroraGw2 Alaska has bush, lots of places have bush. You do understand the term yes?
@AuroraGw2
3 ай бұрын
@@robertchiarizia9463 it was a joke
@ChuckV
3 ай бұрын
@AuroraGw2 lol I work on pumps and related equipment that supply and distribute gasoline and diesel for remote northern communities in Canada. It pays way better than selling crap drugs. Plus, I'll never need a lawyer because I won't go to jail like all dumbass smugglers do.
@humbertonevarez8669
2 ай бұрын
Im watching this while AT&T services are down lol
@leofortey7561
Ай бұрын
Cell towers use 'channels' like your home WiFi router does. They do not interfere with each other, they overlap. This is to help prevent dropped called when you move from one tower to the next. If your home WiFi is messy or slow, I suggest you see which channel it is on compared to everyone else around you, and pick the least busy channel.
@Normal1855
3 ай бұрын
How does the cellphone aggravate the pilot? Every piece of electronics is supposed to accept all interference, and still work. Saying phones interfere with the planes electronics is a myth, to make you pay for wifi.
@Robert-cu9bm
3 ай бұрын
Yep, all cables are shielded. It's more a belts and braces thing, it shouldn't happen but also we know what Boeing engineers are like on quality.
@lilfishnet9265
3 ай бұрын
My wifi is free with t mobile for entire flights
@user-il1nx9bl9z
3 ай бұрын
Crew is on cellphones nonstop doing ignorant shit all the while
@alphanerd2305
3 ай бұрын
Cell phones most certainly interfere with aircraft systems...if you have about 10,000 of them and all of them actively making calls. There's a great Mythbusters episode about this.
@lihtan
2 ай бұрын
In the mid to late '90s Boeing had discovered a number on incidents where it seems that electronic devices may have interfered with avionics, and even aircraft operation. It was Boeing that made recommendations to the FAA in establishing guidelines about the use of electronics during flight. You can read all the details in issue 10 of Boeing publication 'Aero'.
@antoniogonzales2420
21 күн бұрын
The moment he says aggravating the pilot I knew he doesn't know what he's talking about.
@MisterRorschach90
2 ай бұрын
It would be so epic if someone set up a series of reflectors specifically to beam the cell signal up to their flight path for their flight only.
@nordoceltic7225
3 ай бұрын
I have no idea why the FAA still mandates airplane mode. EVERY flight at least 1 MF forgets or refuses to turn off their stuff. We've yet to have a crash caused by a passenger device interference. And besides, the plane is already flying into the tower's transmission, which is the same frequencies. All I can think of: that some fliers like the theater of telling people turn off their stuff, imagining it makes their flights safer somehow.
@bigdiccmarty9335
3 ай бұрын
Placebo bay bee
@MichaelThe-Pyro
3 ай бұрын
ok, i actually have an answer it is mostly to stop people being on their phones during take-off and landing (the only point when there is any signal to contact people) this is in case of an emergency they want people alert and ready to act not calling loved ones
@neoxyte
3 ай бұрын
Mythbusters already proved that cellphones do not intefere with airplane communications.
@BacklTrack
3 ай бұрын
i never turn mine onto airplane mode. The only thing it does is save battery so it doesnt search constantly for towers I think.
@CodyLynn100
3 ай бұрын
The FAA does not have this requirement, it is the FCC. Because of tower jumping, it screws up the signals. Even at 20,000 feet, you can still get signal, but because you are actually quite far from all towers while they are angularly relatively close to each other, when high up, you tend to change towers really quickly at higher airplane speeds. The FCC doesn't like this because in small numbers, it's no big deal, but if a larger number of people were connecting to towers like this it would put a lot of strain on the networks.
@elmeatopopsicle3309
3 ай бұрын
Strange how cell phones worked on 9/11 airplanes
@ShoeAlmighty
3 ай бұрын
defund police
@synzap
3 ай бұрын
almost like the 9/11 aircraft weren't at 30,000 feet...
@elmeatopopsicle3309
3 ай бұрын
@@A-wy5zm find a safe space, it gets harder from here
@ZackBlackwood97
3 ай бұрын
@elmeatopopsicle3309 did, did you just admit you're gonna get dumber?
@Jhawk376
3 ай бұрын
They had phones on their planes back then that worked off of frequencies specifically for air phones. They were specifically called airfone or air one
@princeofheaven19
2 ай бұрын
As an engineer who worked on EMI/EMC issues the latest avionics are immune to interference at cell tower frequencies, so no pilot will be aggravated
@jamesmoran8335
2 ай бұрын
And another thing, cell phone companies lease space on cell phone towers. A cell phone tower company builds the tower, like crown-castle then lease spaces on the tower for their antennas
@HjortenHjort
3 ай бұрын
No signals from a phone interfere with any instruments on a plane
@secretchannel6232
3 ай бұрын
Hahaha that’s completely false, radio altimeters use 5G to determine the radio height above the ground…I wonder what else uses 5G? Do research before spewing misinformation.
@JustAGooseman
3 ай бұрын
factually untrue lol. It causes half-queueing on the local radio receiver that the pilots can hear. To them its just random beeps and boops that vary in intensity.
@Normal1855
3 ай бұрын
@@JustAGoosemanAll electronics are supposed to accept all interference, and still work. It's a myth that phones interfere with the planes electronics.
@HjortenHjort
3 ай бұрын
@@JustAGooseman that is a lie. I work within a small airline and I talk to pilots everyday. It is a myth that airlines have given up on changing peoples perception on. There’s no danger in keeping electronics on during any part of any flight. Not big airliners and not small private planes.
@RideGasGas
3 ай бұрын
@@JustAGooseman Please provide cites to this claim. The pilots communicate in the range of 118-136 MHz, the lowest cellular radio band starts at around 850 MHz, there is no frequency overlap whatsoever. Cellphone radios have to meet stringent out-of-band emission limits and there is virtually nothing coming out of them in the aircraft band. The bigger worry was whether or not the phones would interfere with navigational equipment - they won't. The most recent main worry was whether or not one of the new 5G bands would interfere with radio altimeters and you can google about that. This has pretty much been put to bed too.
@chariotsoffire2714
3 ай бұрын
22 miles for max range, but in 1969 Nixon called Neil Armstrong on the moon. SMH
@michaelmoran2691
3 ай бұрын
😂 Exactly
@r33th
3 ай бұрын
He talked to him via nasa coms that use satellite. You honestly think astronauts talk with their cellphone? Lmfao
@svenmorgenstern9506
3 ай бұрын
Um...cell phones didn't exist in 1969. Depending on where you were located you may not've had landline service either. Pretty good odds that if you had a phone at all it was still rotary dial (technically touch-tone tech was released in late 1963, but we still used rotaty dial into the mid 70's). Source: I'm old.
@michaelmoran2691
3 ай бұрын
@@svenmorgenstern9506 They also had a form of Skype in the thirty's Alexander bell Was into talking to the spirits and I don't know maybe more Also using the 999 as the UK emergencys phone number Can you see the numbers and more Also the word hellO really came into the spoken word Mad ejgets 🍀
@user-pq8vk8et9l
2 ай бұрын
They had satellite phones back then it’s more expensive to call but easier to reach longer distances
@elgringoec
2 ай бұрын
"aggravate the pilot" 😂 As if he could know.
@doyadirty3804
2 ай бұрын
That beat slappin tho
@martinsonofwar395
3 ай бұрын
It's not multipathing, it's called reflection and refraction
@crommg
3 ай бұрын
The term that the companies use is called multipathing, they can use objects to displace the signal and create “multiple paths” Try not talking just to talk
@TalentedChimp7
3 ай бұрын
Radiowaves go through the buildings how you think you use ur phone in a building
@crommg
3 ай бұрын
@@TalentedChimp7 I never said they didnt but they also bounce off of really dense/reflective materials. Also if there is tin/copper on the roof it actually reflects it as well which is why you will have shite service in most walmarts.
@oldsguy354
3 ай бұрын
@@TalentedChimp7Metal buildings are like Faraday cages. The tighter the seal of the metal envelope the less radio signal can get through.
@TommyTommy
3 ай бұрын
In telecommunications this phenomenon is called multipathing, where multipathing is expected, like in cities, there are ways to mitigate it. (Software and hardware wise)
@zedmelon
3 күн бұрын
A pilot buddy of mine said your cell phone might cause a slight blip during the landing process if you receive a text during the approach... but it's not really a big deal. We were in a small, 9 passenger turboprop, so a large commercial plane might be different. I asked a lot of questions on that flight--but I didn't ask that one.
@dominiccase6846
25 күн бұрын
I was part of the whole flight test program with 300 phones on an aircraft at Ames research we use the DC-8 back then to verify whether cell phones interfere with aircraft instruments. They don't.
@mystica-subs
3 ай бұрын
This is old, Sprint got bought out years ago and no one uses CDMA technology anymore
@prunedfingers
3 ай бұрын
they have all moved on to lte. t-mobile still has a gsm network for international roaming but that's being turned off this year
@jamesogden7756
3 ай бұрын
Even CDMA doesn't explain the utter horse pucker this joker is spitting. 2G? Maybe. But that dates this as 20+ years old. 😅
@prunedfingers
3 ай бұрын
@@jamesogden7756 yeah 22 miles would be 2g. i've maybe used 2g a total of 10 times in the last decade
@HoloScope
2 ай бұрын
Yeah I was about to say. Also the other half of his talk doesn’t even make sense even in the context of CDMA technology.
@mystica-subs
2 ай бұрын
@@jamesogden7756It explains 35 miles vs 22 miles, as CDMA did not require timing-advance to coordinate the user equipment sending in timeslots - it was able to use a code sequence to distinguish user transmissions overlapping in time and to spread them across the CDMA carrier spectrum. 35 miles is essentially the distance where the signal from your phone peters out too much.
@Davido50
3 ай бұрын
Put your CELL PHONES on airplane ✈️ mode when you sleep..you DONT want EFs in the room while ya sleep. Try it! Or leave in kitchen etc far from bedrooms.
@noklarok
2 ай бұрын
exactly
@johnschwalb
2 ай бұрын
Do you unplug you WiFi at night? Your tv You laptop Your printer You neighbors WiFi, tv, laptop, printer The cell tower your phone gets a signal from? You turning off your cell phone does nothing.
@noklarok
2 ай бұрын
@@johnschwalb just put your laptop under your pillow then
@johnschwalb
2 ай бұрын
@@noklarok while the electro magnetic radiation will do nothing to me, the thermal radiation will cause a fire. Go out and buy a emf meter and use it all over, you will see your phone is not exposing you to more than standard background radiation.
@huntrichardson
23 күн бұрын
@@johnschwalband your gateway
@Creamybokeh
2 күн бұрын
I’ve done work for GoGo Wireless. They just finished installation of their 5g network for jets. All their towers are on the ground but instead of point down they said they simply pointed them up (not an engineer, but that’s what they told us). We were flying at 30,000 feet above Florida taking zoom meetings with no issues, getting pretty fantastic speeds.
@suvratrai
2 ай бұрын
Distance also depends on which technology is being used 2G has the longest range and 5G has the shortest.
@guyb6665
3 ай бұрын
Homie is saying wrong things for the right reasons
@aaronh1372
3 ай бұрын
?
@derekmay9717
3 ай бұрын
This guy is like the Neil Degrassi of cell service
@aaronh1372
3 ай бұрын
😂 F Neil. Sad I know who ur talking bout cuz I shouldn't just like this guy idk
@DylanPWN
2 ай бұрын
I have hung quite a few radios for wisps and cell providers. Some radios point down, some point straight up using an omni direction antenna, and so. E are pointing straight forward. We placed towers in areas where we could hit the most people in one area.
@PatrickCPalmer
3 күн бұрын
Movie: Harry Potter and the Cell Towers Of Azkaban
@bobbowie5334
3 ай бұрын
Twenty years ago you could get _AMPS_ service at 30,000 ft. And the quality of the call was excellent.
@syndromeee
3 ай бұрын
I’ve had cell reception in an airplane many, many times….
@sicilianr1
3 ай бұрын
Maybe hooked up to the plane you have but not cruising at 30k you haven’t. There’s nothing up there. 🤣😂 keep trying though.
@sekritdokumint9326
3 ай бұрын
@@sicilianr1no..? Planes dont work that way. That's literally the radio towers down below. Pilots literally can and do use regular cellphones in the cockpit
@sicilianr1
3 ай бұрын
@@sekritdokumint9326 no they don’t and you can’t get a cell signal while flying a commercial airliner. Maybe when you’re in the ground 🤣😂, but not up at cruising altitude. Try all you want, doesn’t work.
@mg42lover
3 ай бұрын
You can’t make calls from your cell phone from a moving airliner because the plane is moving to fast to connect to a tower. 500-525 miles per hour. Unless the plane has its own dedicated WIFI hub connected to satellite relays.
@sicilianr1
3 ай бұрын
@@mg42lover speed has nothing to do with it. Cell signals don’t go up, they spread out. Past 10k your not getting lucky.
@Brielshallouf
2 ай бұрын
“Point down” 😂 Okie dokie broskie
@lotgxj9
2 ай бұрын
Music timed with him saying how much area does a cell tower cover sounded good
@TheVenominside
3 ай бұрын
AND ladies & gentlemen, this is why 9/11 was an inside job & flight 93 didn’t have a “let’s roll” moment. Cell phones don’t work on airplanes, ESPECIALLY in the year 2001. (And NO, that specific call didn’t use the airplane’s phone system)
@TheVenominside
3 ай бұрын
@@Sig_P229 lol you contradicted all your points
@kylereed5161
2 ай бұрын
Nothing this clown said is true, your basis for your argument is from a KZitem video in which 95% of it is incorrect 🤡
@HoloScope
2 ай бұрын
Flight 93 was flying low enough to receive signal, cell towers are omni-directional. Which means you would most likely be able to receive signal on flight 93
@garyolsen4160
2 ай бұрын
They called from the ground.
@noklarok
2 ай бұрын
i have to keep telling you youngsters, circa 2001 USA airplanes used to have phone headsets built into the seats, you paid to use them, the call quality was fine.. so your whole theory falls apart. I mean i doubt the 93 story is true anyway but, there was a way to contact people with inflight phone system (which was unique to USA I believe)
@mikkelborby
3 ай бұрын
Ah yes. Places which cost millions can be brought down by a little phone. Yeah no. It's a lie. That's stupid. You don't have to turn on airplane mode or do anything.
@secretchannel6232
3 ай бұрын
What!?? Many systems on airplanes use radio waves, cell phones also use radio waves. The issue is interference. Do research before spreading misinformation.
@kristinagraversgaard5328
3 ай бұрын
@@secretchannel6232 it is not wrong that a phone won’t cause physical issues on a plane. What it will do is piss off the pilots, as they will get interference on their radios.
@JustAGooseman
3 ай бұрын
@@kristinagraversgaard5328Yeah, and depending on the severity of the interference, it will literally obscure all incoming transmissions over radio. Its really annoying and makes communicating with ATC nigh impossible.
@Normal1855
3 ай бұрын
@@secretchannel6232They use a different signal. No interference.
@Misha-dr9rh
3 ай бұрын
@@JustAGoosemanand uh, you know this how? Are you a pilot? If phones on planes were such a serious issue where it makes it impossible to use your radio, you would be BANNED FROM TAKING A PHONE ON A PLANE. But you're not, everyone brings phones on planes, everyone makes calls on planes, and pilots have no issues with communication because of it.
@kastnerr
15 күн бұрын
There is a ton of math here to play with. If you accept a range of 35 miles, in theory, towers could be 70 miles apart. US air traffic travels 8 miles up, so there would be 6 mile gaps in the coverage if you flew from one tower to the next. Planes also travel about 10 miles per minute. The gaps would take about 36 seconds to cross. You would then have about 3 minutes of coverage to connect to the new tower and start the process over again.
@sikesr
27 күн бұрын
Sprint? Hah, nice one chief..😅😂
@rajsel8761
3 ай бұрын
Yet the president had a PHONE CONVERSATION with astronouts July 20, 1969, President Richard Nixon
@mackieangrybear5665
3 ай бұрын
They didn’t even have cell phones let alone cell towers they were obviously using a different method of telecommunication like pointing a large dish directly in the path the iss would be moving through for the next few minutes.
@maukaman
3 ай бұрын
Yeah they were using Nokias connected through a Boost Mobile tower right?
@WayStedYou
3 ай бұрын
Because they weren't using cellphones you smoothbrain
@kristinagraversgaard5328
3 ай бұрын
@@mackieangrybear5665not ISS, but Apollo 11. But, yes. That is how. Nixon used a landline to mission controll, where the line was then patched into sattelite, and sent to the moon.
@ccubsfan94
3 ай бұрын
He aint wrong about pissing off the pilot bit. It doesn't interfere with our instruments like they say, but it does with our radio. Not the to the point we cant use it, but it makes random beeps and boops that we can hear. I'm talking to you first class!
@HopeAndrea_HFG
2 ай бұрын
I'm glad that he recognizes that the downfall of his alliance was that they were overly focused on getting rid of the original traitors instead of thinking about how the show actually works. They're going to do a certain number of episodes regardless of what you do so more traitors will be recruited and there will be a final cauldron.
@FOTAP97
2 ай бұрын
Good to know. Are they ill-tempered sea bass??
@jasonengland6372
2 ай бұрын
The pilot has no idea he’s got other shit to worry about
@johnpetith5523
Ай бұрын
Stay tuned for the album drop
@ADayintheLifeofMr23
2 ай бұрын
The more towers in higher populated areas is because of the amount of volume a single tower can handle. By placing multiple towers in an overlapping coverage area it helps reduce capacity related issues…..they absolutely wouldn’t interfere with each other. That’s wild.
@johnlawrence5383
2 ай бұрын
That’s crazy that a cell tower can be miles away and you can still FaceTime someone with very low latency
@JonMarM
16 күн бұрын
This is why the best services are the ones like Cricket because they use everyone's towers.
@Leffrey
2 ай бұрын
If cell tower only pointed down, then any decently sized hill would put you out of service 😂
@rod4095
2 ай бұрын
I worked in the industry and this was well explained
@hydnumrepandum214
2 ай бұрын
Cell towers have a radial signal so the signal does go up. It fails to reach a plane due to the distance; cell signals go up to 3 miles at the most. Planes fly above 15,000 feet thus no signal gets to you in a 32,000 AGL plane.
@alyross2850
2 ай бұрын
My understanding is that the phone companies use each others towers. They pay each other for the usage. This came from my husband who works for one.
@robboss1839
Ай бұрын
Towers most definitely overlap and mesh to allow for seamless transfers between towers. That’s why your calls don’t drop while driving through the city
@outlawblack123
2 ай бұрын
Note, downtown Chicago has the worst cellphone service. I actually bought a mini compass because it's easier than using your Google Maps which just spins in directions sometimes.
@lockedandloadedsigns4424
2 ай бұрын
As a cell phone here, please do not keep me in your back pocket, especially after lunch at Taco Viva...
@Xrater96
2 ай бұрын
Video starts loading in the middle. Me* checks if im in an airplane.
@FollowtheleaderChristJesus
2 ай бұрын
The beat is fire!! 100% 😂
@SteveEddy-od7fb
2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the heads up! I've been with ATnT for almost 12 years and had very few problems!
@geekchameleon
2 ай бұрын
The pilot isn't going to even know there's a phone on the plane. Unless a flight attendant tells him.
@DaveE99
11 күн бұрын
In downtown chicago they eventually get to you unless your in grant park at Lola or other festival. Then no service for you. It’s like that park needs its own cell tower.
@arendeepropertymaintenance
2 ай бұрын
I live near a town that is highly trafficed during holiday periods. Phone signal sucks when everyone is either coming or going.
@blackspiderman1887
2 ай бұрын
That's why I'm glad the comments section exist to call out the BS. The man said it with confidence though
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