I only see people complaining about people complaining about fireballs.
@SilkyLew
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@fabiolean
11 жыл бұрын
I actually main Ryu and was at Evo this year. Daigo's fireball timing and spacing is actually fucking amazing, and it's frustrating to see comments like this from people who clearly don't know better.
@patchristian9174
3 жыл бұрын
They're just sore losers and they don't know how to deal with a mixed zoner like ryu., big respect to daigo "the beast" umehara 👍💪🙏❤️
@mikee555
10 жыл бұрын
I love how sf fans dont put spoilers in the comments. New to this community but i love it.
@Raiayasaki
9 жыл бұрын
but the timeline will sometimes giveaway who will win
@farleydbear
9 жыл бұрын
instead of putting spoilers, SF fans are trying to make excuses for this boring fireball spamming and they think spamming fireballs is "high level play"
@Hatchumosc1
9 жыл бұрын
Great game, but horrible community for the most part.
@XxLonelyxX
9 жыл бұрын
Stfu noob
@farleydbear
9 жыл бұрын
ItsDarin mad cuz ur game is shit? ok bud, enjoy your "high-level" fireball spam
@donjoe7387
10 жыл бұрын
People that say Daigo "spams" fireballs is either a total scrub or just has no clue how to play fighting games period.
@princesssweepzzt5502
4 жыл бұрын
I love using grapplers but there's always going to be at least a few situations in which they just cannot work, that's why it's best to have multiple mains with different specialties
@AC-LING666
2 жыл бұрын
The match would have been alot better if daigo didnt spam , evo should have disqualified daigo for all that spam fireball !
@rickgrimes3479
2 ай бұрын
He does spam, because he's scared.
@rainierzx9677
2 ай бұрын
It being a strat doesn't make it not spamming
@rleften5788
10 жыл бұрын
Do people not understand how important these fireballs are against gief? without them it would be 10-0 matchup
@gigas81
9 жыл бұрын
I think that Daigo figured he would just do the ordinary stuff, since doing anything fancy to Zangief, T Hawk or Hakan or Hugo will get you thrown to the moon. Plus have you all seen Zangief's throw range? HAVE YOU ALL SEEN IT? If not, go to arcade mode and put the difficulty on hardest and run into zangief then come back to youtube and upload a video on how you got spinpile-drivered into oblivion.
@rleften5788
9 жыл бұрын
Well yeah there is nothing else to be said, let's be honest. This is the reality of the matchup, the whole point of ryu is you don't let people get up close. Mastering your zoning with fireballs and anti airs is the core part of ryu and can win a lot of matches. It's not as easy as it looks at all xD
@938086844
6 жыл бұрын
James Woods I agree with u any ryo ken or etc character with fireballs just play like that against zangief now in sf5 where zangief is completely crap still same just hadoken hadoken and I can see some comments daigo is good take that fireballs out and let's play
@illuminitos
2 жыл бұрын
10-0 is a overstatement. Ryu has a solid AA and pokes. This match will be more balanced if shotos don't have fireballs. Maybe 6-4 on Zangief favor.
@AmirSamir-p6w
Ай бұрын
@@illuminitoslol sf4 zangief is strong
@takeyoshiful
5 жыл бұрын
This is like how to fight zangief with ryu, theory in action
@JEtronful
9 жыл бұрын
Those are tactical fireballs. Without them this match up would've been fucking in gief's favor
@vatarants
9 жыл бұрын
Spamming Hadouken? It is the matter of character design. Zangief designed to has higher HP (1100) and good melee attack. Ryu has lower HP than Zangief (1000) with a fireball skill. Plus designed with anti-jump skill, Sho-ryu-ken. Spam Hadouken and defense with Shoryu ken is the basic of Ryu character. Exchanging blow with character with higher HP is stupid (actually in every game.) In a pro match, It's right to use your character at the full potential. If you're playing ranged character but you're not using it, you are gonna exactly lose like 0-5. Because, your damage output will never good as Zangief.
@joeltay5213
9 жыл бұрын
vatarants Some ppl have no knowledge of the game. If u are a puny guy given a pistol and u are face with a burly guy wielding a machete on one hand and a chainsaw on the other. What do u do? fight melee with that burly guy? use the back of the gun and try to knock him out? U shoot him with every bullet u got. If he gets close to u. U are dead. Dont tell me thats pussy.
@INeedHerPomPomJuice
9 жыл бұрын
vatarants Exchanging blows with a fighter that has higher health is situational, it's not always stupid
@Rex-golf_player810
4 жыл бұрын
@@INeedHerPomPomJuice but generally you will try to play your character the way they were designed
@stolensentience
Жыл бұрын
@@INeedHerPomPomJuice no it’s always stupid. You will lose every match by the difference in HP. Assuming you understand the comment.
@maxd6268
7 жыл бұрын
Great Times. SSFIV>SF5
@tskitz
5 жыл бұрын
rip sf till sf6 comes out i been playing sf4 still tbh
@illuminitos
2 жыл бұрын
I play USF4 until today. SF5 I uninstalled of my PC more than a year and don't play since 2020.
@guyfauks2576
Жыл бұрын
feudalist
@BieberSucksCock100
11 жыл бұрын
Daigo has solidified himself as the greatest ever SF player, he goes to evo now for the great fun, and still manages to always make top 8.
@ps7ykLiTT
11 жыл бұрын
That fact that SnakeEyes is playing Zangief using a pad instead of a stick is pretty damn impressive.
@NeoThorne
Жыл бұрын
Didn't pay off though
@rickgrimes3479
2 ай бұрын
Sticks are inferior.
@TheKingHezekiah
10 жыл бұрын
regardless of all the hate in the comments, much respect to snake eyez even though he used a fightpad. it still takes skill to reach it that far in Evo and he played daigo well and was a good sport about it. and even though daigo was shooting hadokens for days, he came in with a game plan that would be effective.
@NeroDante89
11 жыл бұрын
Hakan and Balrog are both characters that require a certain level of creativity and patience to play with, that's why Infiltration vs PR's match was very entertaining. Daigo on the other hand relies mostly on Ryu to win, he's not there to do something flashy or to have fun, he's at EVO to win.
@stolensentience
Жыл бұрын
What a shitty 9 yr old comment
@DaughterOfRnbSoul
8 жыл бұрын
snake eyez is pretty damn good lol
@mariefrias7257
7 жыл бұрын
DaughterOfRnbSoul
@rockmaster987
9 жыл бұрын
Lol you noobs complaining about Ryu's fireballs should just stop watching or stop playing SF. You obviously dont know tactics and understanding how people play. Daigo has a point in doing those. He's zoning out snake eyes. Daigo already knew he would lose up close, so why not switch it up and see how he does outside. Use a fire ball to fuck him up, then hit him when he's least expecting it. Its called playing smart, and adapting to your opponents gameplay. If snake eyes is any better (not saying he sucks but saying if he knew better tactics), he'd push through those fireballs and understand how Daigo is playing. Daigo reads people, like how he read that snake eyes would jump (because he constantly used it,) and how he read that snake eyes was gonna use his ultra. Snake eyes got frustrated with the fireballs and that frustration is what fucked him up, which was what Daigo was planning on the whole time and it worked. THATS called tactics. Look it up if you dont know what tactics mean because obviously some of you dont. Snake eyes got too happy after the 2nd round in the first fight. Good match, but Daigo read him too easily.
@hanzobi1926
9 жыл бұрын
People will never learn whether it is SF or MK or any other fighting game. They will still bitch and moan about projectiles, so called spam,blah..blah. Just leave them to play against their own brand of mentality and play the people you know, who know their knowledge and are true opponents instead of fake ones.
@dangerguy32
9 жыл бұрын
Daigo will spam the fireball regardless of the matchup. It's smart here, of course, and considering it's tournament play you do what it takes to win, but he does it pretty much in *any* situation.
@dangerguy32
9 жыл бұрын
***** Sako has a good E. Ryu and he doesn't constantly shoot fireballs, so I don't see your point.
@dangerguy32
9 жыл бұрын
***** I don't know anything about Daigo's Yun (didn't even know he used him lol) but I just watched a match where he was using E. Ryu constantly launching fireballs....at least he was until they kept getting punished (he happened to be fighting Kazunoko's Yun) I am also not familiar with frame data, so I didn't know there was any difference between the two Ryu's fireballs. To your point of Sako, yes he does zone and poke, but when I watch Daigo, it seems to be amost *all* he does. Until someone gets around it, then he'll fight, separate himself, and continue. It's very irritating to watch, even when I know there is a purpose to it.
@dangerguy32
9 жыл бұрын
***** Have to disagree with the Dieminion part simply because I can't stomach the sight of Guile lol. At least when Ryu shoots a fireball and you jump it right you can punish, but Guile's recovery doesn't allow that 9at least in AE 2012 I don't know about Ultra)
@GP-tt2te
4 жыл бұрын
If you don't play Gief you have no idea how hard and horrible this mu is against a good Ryu. It's a nightmare.
@doohanfabiandiaz8162
Жыл бұрын
You're right bro.
@Rohtix
10 жыл бұрын
Diago might not dish out the craziest combos, but he'll fuck with your heads, thats for sure
@bobbykite8705
10 жыл бұрын
lol there isnt much to understand. instead of having long limbs like Sim, ryu uses fireballs, along with akuma, ken, evil ryu, sagat, etc. Anyone who has fireballs uses them to keep the opponent away or in other words "spacing" or "zoning." People dont understand because people are so stupid, it's amazing sometimes.
@gintuner4371
10 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree.
@jinxy1491
10 жыл бұрын
dont matter whatcha call it its till spamming
@oscuro8961
10 жыл бұрын
jimmy snort Its a way for force a reaction from the opponent. Without the threat of chip why do anything at all besides turtle?
@Raiayasaki
9 жыл бұрын
jimmy snort idiot, obvious idiot do you think this tournament top 8 will have spammers? what a fucking idiot, it's called zoning meat-head
@jinxy1491
9 жыл бұрын
Rafael Orcullo Read what i wrote last time.
@holtreich
11 жыл бұрын
It's actually more common for Zangief players because the SPD input is really easy on a pad.
@moikkaterve6177
9 жыл бұрын
This match was like a platforming game.
@Apemopo
9 жыл бұрын
"because crying would be inappropriate" rofl
@CyberGief
10 жыл бұрын
M-m-m-my EX green hand :'o
@SMMyers
10 жыл бұрын
if I go to evo and i play with daigo umehara I'll say "Shit, I'm fucked"
@IslamIstheWayforMe
10 жыл бұрын
no you won't.
@SMMyers
9 жыл бұрын
OKAY :(
@r011ing_thunder6
7 жыл бұрын
yes he will.
@GothicKin
10 жыл бұрын
Daigo throws fireballs. There. I'm just summarizing the comment section so you don't have to read it all.
@barrywhite21
10 жыл бұрын
Jacopo Barberis You are a noob. Just summing your skills up for eveyone so they dont have to figure it out themselves.
@KingCrimeTime
10 жыл бұрын
Dude he was just telling what was in the comment section. Chill
@phillipwattsjr.4714
10 жыл бұрын
Someone should've sent SnakeEyes the memo that Banishing Flats don't knock down anymore. Even if it connects, it's punishable. I will never understand why Capcom chose to nerf it that way.
@BrandonMurga
9 жыл бұрын
Phillip Watts, Jr. Now Gief can connect it with red focus. USF IV.
@xiaat
11 жыл бұрын
Are you using the Xbox pad? Are you using the shortcuts for the grabs? Though I haven't ever played a grappler on a pad, I believe with certain practice you can input the commands faster with just a flick of a finger rather than spinning the stick. Look up Vangief if you haven't already, the guy is a beast with his standard PS3 pad. He pulled off standing 720s several times in matches I've seen and he's buffering SPDs all the time.
@skarrface91
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it takes some huge balls to walk up and overhead a character with a 2 frame punish and a 1 frame Ultra haha
@fulloffreedomwr8948
10 жыл бұрын
4:22 Diago got lucky on that one slam Snake Eyes did
@Gozaru-san
11 жыл бұрын
So what else are you supposed to do against Zangief, try the move you haven't mention called Tatsumaki and get punished so hard you can never make a comeback? Remember, EVO happens once a year, so it is like you only spam once or lose and wait for another year
@KemmMusic
11 жыл бұрын
Daigo did not stoop low... Ryu on Street Fighter 4 is more of a zoning character. And that means, he can only fight certain characters by trying to keep them away because if they get in on him, then it's more or less over. Hence why he has different speeds in his light, medium and heavy Hadoukens. To confuse the opponent on which hes going to throw at you.
@youtumao
11 жыл бұрын
In fact, when Ryu is 0hp, Zangief can use double laverit to lure the reversal dragon punch. Because the DL will always avoid the first hit of the DP and double counter.
@eksyte
11 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed, too. Doing Zangeif's moves with a D-pad isn't easy, and to be proficient against one of the game's most notorious pros shows raw skill. I can only imagine how much better he'd do with a stick, or better yet, a stickless stick.
@stolensentience
Жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t. Or else he would (use a stick).
@iishyxvietxboyii1
11 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people say daigo abuse fireball... Wtf u suppose to do as a ryu player? Jump In all the time?
@oscuro8961
10 жыл бұрын
good match by both players. Hopefully evo 2014 we see both again
@BieberSucksCock100
11 жыл бұрын
Indeed, some will argue that pads are fine for grappling characters but really IMO using a stick is superior in every way.
@BoundlessGoat
11 жыл бұрын
And he's also considered by many the best Gief, too!
@BieberSucksCock100
11 жыл бұрын
He hardly got blown up at any of them. He won 2009 and 10, and has placed top 8 ever since, despite SF always having a huge number of entries. Getting blown up would be getting knocked out in top 32 or something.
@majinshenmue
11 жыл бұрын
Never been to a tournament, not trolling, and I have no idea what FGC stands for. But thanks for this information. Seriously, this is really cool. Thanks!
@ChoseDeath
11 жыл бұрын
SnakeEyes is so amazing. I hope he keeps kicking ass in the future!
@BigBlackGWAR
11 жыл бұрын
You have to keep throwing out that Hadoken over and over to keep Zangief out. Every good player knows that the second you let a throw character in (Zangief, Haken, Abel, T. Hawk), it is time for a throw with either the short or straight punch button.
@abdufiadbfajdfb
10 жыл бұрын
Why is this shit not on TV?
@aquarandom1071
11 жыл бұрын
I believe it's to minimize any sort of lag from the background.
@whammaster
11 жыл бұрын
SnakeEyes is by far my favorite Gief to watch.
@charted8015
2 жыл бұрын
the overhead at the end of the first game. daigo is really good.
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
Where did I claim you said anything about modded sticks? What you said was 'a pad has advantages because you can hold right and left at the same time.' That statement is the only thing I was disputing--pads don't have that advantage, because a stick can do the exact same thing. And second, yes, we *were* talking about using it in a tournament. If you were aware of that, then why did you list a pad 'advantage' that isn't legal for tourneys? I was simply giving you *two* reasons you were wrong.
@fabiolean
11 жыл бұрын
I've seen a bunch of people play grapplers with a pad instead of a stick, I think because the 360/720s are easier to roll out on a pad.
@GuruSimpanzee
10 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to say akumas junp back fireball and ryus standing fireball the same? space management
@bobbykite8705
10 жыл бұрын
it's safe to say that ryus stand fireball and akumas stand fireball are the same. Space management.
@maphitha1
11 жыл бұрын
In their defense, he's been a top contender since the 90's, won the first two SF4 Evo tournaments, and was listed by Guiness as the World's Most Successful SF player. He's a big deal to them.
@ps7ykLiTT
11 жыл бұрын
So I'm not entitled to my own opinions on whether or not something is impressive? All I was saying was that I was impressed with the fact that a Zangief user is playing at a tournament with a pad. It's not something I've seen very often. Thanks for clarifying I have no right to state how I feel. It means a lot. You, sir, are awesome. Way to go Mr. Islam person.
@habzyyy
11 жыл бұрын
In Daigo's defense all Pro Ryu players spam Hadoukens not just him
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
...Any button can be modified to send any input you want to a console. Go to any stick-modding website, or look up the special 'hitbox' arcade controllers. That still doesn't change two facts--first, SnakeEyes is a tournament player, and this is illegal in tournament play. Second, in Street Fighter, the last one you pressed determines which way you block; you can't automatically block both sides with *any* input. You can add 'PWNED' as many times as you want, it'll never be true.
@LordNarkham
10 жыл бұрын
that was some hot gief action. Was rooting for SnakeEyes all along
@paleposter
11 жыл бұрын
are you going to upload daigo vs tokido?
@hiroxxxx79
11 жыл бұрын
Is this the 2012 version of SF?
@helbigshitachi486
5 жыл бұрын
How do you counter that at @0:44 Zangief's constantly get me with that shit the range is ridiculous.
@nw28x
10 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance associated with this game--most of my SF knowledge comes from '90s versions--but why doesn't Daigo change up the speed of his hadokens (assuming that's possible). If he'd thrown slower ones here and there, it would've caused Zangief to mistime his jumps and spin-throughs.
@ensanesane
8 жыл бұрын
+boywonder228 You probably know by now, but he was.
@nw28x
8 жыл бұрын
***** No, I didn't know. Thanks.
@moorditjman
11 жыл бұрын
god man... the only time ive seen daigo loose was to justin wong who used balrog and just used wind up punch to dodge the fireballs... thats the only time, ive seen him loose... ever..
@ProxyDoug
10 жыл бұрын
Two beasts fighting...
@Heisen-d3n
6 жыл бұрын
Ryu has some vantage from any chars?
@DTerryfied
11 жыл бұрын
what is snake eyes playing with?
@IslamIstheWayforMe
11 жыл бұрын
look dude, i am the BIGGEST Daigo fan. i personally believe he is still the best player, just by placings alone, i also understand this game on a pro level, and the vortexes are a guessing game, thus daigo guesses wrong, a 1 out of 4 chance is pretty hard to contend with. im with you bro...getting blown up just means u lose a game or a set badly, you're using the words wrong, daigo is still fucking solid he placed #2 in huge japan tournament right before evo n only lost to a vortex character
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
...And, again, in street fighter, you can't block both directions at the same time. It will only accept the second movement input, and if you do manage to input both in the same frame, it sends a neutral input. And, second, it doesn't matter if you weren't talking about modded sticks; the simple fact is, controllers wouldn't have that advantage regardless because anyone can make a stick do the same thing, modding isn't hard and most stick players know how to do it.
@karimqaiser
10 жыл бұрын
Why are there people talking in the background?
@barrywhite21
10 жыл бұрын
WOW! Why are you posting?
@meu02136
9 жыл бұрын
Why are you typing words in the foreground?
@vaiyt
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because throwing out hadoukens without care wins everything. You talk like the dozens of shoto-using scrubs who David Sirlin used to humiliate with his Zangief.
@ps7ykLiTT
11 жыл бұрын
I agree that a stick doesn't make a person better. However, playing on a stick makes executions a bit easier than playing on a pad. That's all I'm saying.
@SirCaco
11 жыл бұрын
Yo, Sagat's "Tiger Uppercut" always sounded to me like it was TIGER ROBOCOP.
@redphoenix0910
10 жыл бұрын
3:05 ...classic
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
...Honestly, I don't care about your silly argument, but first off, you can *easily* mod a stick to do the exact same thing. Second off, controllers and sticks that can do so are not allowed in tournament play. So how about you educate yourself *before* speaking.
@nextel247
9 жыл бұрын
Awwwwww what a breath of fresh air seeing gief getting his azz busted by those scrumptiously delicious hadokens!! SRCUBS n NOOBZ SAY.....he's spamming fireballs he's not good! PROS SAY....zone and zoning keep your opponent at bay keep the distance at a safe range!
@ExplosionRock
11 жыл бұрын
You already are uploading videos from the streaming!? You my friend are like in spanish we say "Bien Pinche Cabron" that means that you are awesome XD
@oscuro8961
10 жыл бұрын
Snake is best gief I think, but daigo is just so experience in all matchups its major uphill fight. Someone like infiltration will hard counter gief and play as cheap as possible to win. Gief just has too many really bad match ups
@oscuro8961
10 жыл бұрын
***** picking the character with the strongest ways to keep gief out. Infiltration picked oni and beat snake eyez pretty easily so maybe its not cheap just the best counter pick. Call it what you will
@williamjog93
Жыл бұрын
Seth Killian best commentator
@nottingham89
11 жыл бұрын
You don't play fighting games right?
@JoshT4life
11 жыл бұрын
not really, zangief set ups dont really require you to use stick. JS
@exiaR2x78
11 жыл бұрын
wow snake eyes was using a controller rater then a stick, respect
@juju52291
11 жыл бұрын
considering that the two best giefs in the states use pad. maybe it's an advantage?
@charles598
11 жыл бұрын
do you have the semi finals as i missed on the stream and have been looking for it but no one has it uploaded
@WhiteDeviI
11 жыл бұрын
I guess you and 32 others don't know that it's preferred by top players to play Gief with a pad over stick. Execution for Gief is easy on a pad, compared to characters who really need a stick. That and when you use a pad, people don't see off the corner of their eyes the Gief player buffering the SPDs with the obvious stick rotation. Which ALOT of top players have admitted to doing, both consciously and unconsciously.
@interceptfist
11 жыл бұрын
gangsta with the joystick in 2013
@1MCElias
Жыл бұрын
@xuvial1391
11 жыл бұрын
I don't think he really had a choice against this level of Zangief. Trying to go in close he would risk eating 360 grabs. Not to mention if Zangief pulls of a full-meter ultra it hits like a fucking truck.
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
Ah, no problem; my bad for assuming trolling, I've been on the internet far too long. FGC stands for the 'fighting game community' which is just kind of a general term to refer to fighting game players, and I'd say blacks are probably the majority rather than the minority when it comes to MOST fighting game tournaments and gatherings.
@Kajotex
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that's exactly the point why some people find this boring to watch ;) And some other people might find this amazing to marvel at his Ryu play. And that's ok. If they like to see those zoneing games and marvel at the pixel perfect spacing, they shall do so. But some people just find it boring :D Some people find Chess boring. Whod've known :D
@TheIQ82
11 жыл бұрын
Damn snake had the second fight messed up a bit the end of round 1.
@AquaTheFox
11 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Daigo, but I'm not going to flame you for that, unless you're actually bashing him. Daigo is an incredibly skillful player--but in a major tournament, he plays incredibly lame because it's often what you have to do to win in Street Fighter. I don't blame him for doing what it takes to win; and if he enjoys playing that way and the game is made to be played that way, it's not his fault for doing so. That does *not* mean I have to enjoy watching (or playing) it that way.
@FlockofSmeagles
5 жыл бұрын
Bring back true SF meta..... PLEASE, FUCK!
@magicarpet101
11 жыл бұрын
holding both directions to block was removed in Super >_>
@josephandreuccetti8043
5 жыл бұрын
I wish you could block jump ins
@NeroDante89
11 жыл бұрын
Indeed :)
@allenz6123
10 жыл бұрын
He has to smile, cause crying would be inappropriate
@ps7ykLiTT
11 жыл бұрын
Really? Honestly, I find that I'm 10 times more effective using a stick for command grabs rather than using a pad. Idk what kind of technique you use, but playing Gief or Hakan on a pad hurts my thumb AND I'm super inconsistent when it comes to pulling off a command grab..whereas with a stick, I'm able to execute them just about 100% of the time.
@habzyyy
11 жыл бұрын
I just like watching hyped matches. And learn to respect other people's opinion;D
@felipebrasil5
10 жыл бұрын
i think maybe if snake got a lil bit more calm, he could do it. ps: beware, hugo is coming
@Reiiyne
11 жыл бұрын
Snakeeye does good against the US players, but not yet at the level of the beasts from the east
@IslamIstheWayforMe
11 жыл бұрын
what i was saying, you said the only time i saw daigo lose was to justin wong.. well then ur living under a rock obviously.
@moizter
7 жыл бұрын
2017
@haridsaephu8907
11 жыл бұрын
Ryu Guide Book vs Zangief
@nO_d3N1AL
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Nice match
@pepperachu
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Snake eyes has to smile.....because crying would be inappropriate😂
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